If there was fraud why does he plan on running again? I don’t see a big plan. One person suggested to me that his fund raising was for anticipated legal battles, but we saw how those go. No one wants Kraken 2.0.
The first step on the path to success is to say "I'll try" and the last step on the road to failure is to say "I give up."
Too much is at stake to give up. Doesn't mean I don't think they'll just cheat again in 2024; I fully expected them to cheat in 2020 and 2022 and they did. It just means, we have to keep trying, since our very survival is at stake. Miracles do happen, like in 2016.
Trump will run in 2024, regardless of whether the democrats are going to cheat or not, as he's really our best and maybe only hope of saving America. It doesn't matter if it's already too late, and indeed it may be, we must keep the faith and try anyway.
As is often said, if they were undefeatable they wouldn't have to psyop so hard, and if Trump had no chance of winning they wouldn't fear him so much.
so they just have to wait a few years in prison for the chance that trump wins, and pardons him this time, when he had the chance to do it when president but didn't? sounds a bit like 2 more weeks stuff to me
You have to have a conviction for a pardon, otherwise it's not a pardon. Some states alow it prior to conviction, but this is DC and federal charges. Trump was not in office when the people went to court.
Why do the uninformed miss simple shit like number 1, and then use typical leftard types of talking points like 2 more weeks when it doesn't apply?
"The president can issue a pardon at any point after a crime is committed and before, during or after criminal proceedings have taken place. The president cannot, however, pardon someone for future crimes. A pardon covers both the offender's conviction for the crime and the sentence for that crime."
I think the reason people miss #1 is that it isn't true.
Edit: Treason, which can't be pardoned in the first place, was the ostensible reason for their capture and prosecution. Then the Left backed down further and further, effectively nullifying the chance of a pardon. It would make an interesting supreme court case, but Trump wasn't going to pardon people for treason, even if he could have. How the fuck would he know none of the shit congress and the DOJ was saying in court was true?
President Jimmy Faggot Carter pardoned several hundred thousand Vietnam War draft dodging faggots who had never been charged, must less convicted, of a crime.
yes. Merrick Garland successfully pulled those investigations away from the house so he can keep them alive for the next two years. It's obviously political. It's obviously partisan and unfair. It's also legal. I fully suspect that in retaliation neither McCarthy or McConnell will do anything at all because they hate Trump (and us) just as much, if not more, than Biden and Merrick Garland do.
It's two very different kinds of investigations. DoJ's are criminal investigations. The House's investigation is to determine what kinds of laws are needed (or should be changed) to address the matters related to J6. I don't think the J6 Committee did much of anything with the classified material at Mar-a-Lago.
The NPC's don't know because they don't care. They neither care about the J6 protest, the House hearings or anything else related to the matter. It doesn't affect their lives and they'll go on as normal whether they know the truth or not.
Including Monarchy implies the state of a Monarch, which comes from laws under British rule, our country was founded on Sedition against a monarchy. under British rule, there were also states and governors,
I would like to see the law that they actually used in these cases, The way I see it, just speaking here we all can be brought up on sedition charges, this would be against the constitution on freedom of speech, per the Definition, and the constitution gives us direct rights to REBEL against a tyrannical government, and them prosecuting people for doing just that without even being armed, that is what the constitution says we should do, REBEL, So they are making it look like we aren't aloud to even challenge them, FUCK THAT, they aren't our bosses, they are our EMPLOYEE'S We are the government, and we have allowed them to have to much power for to long, and it's time to take it back
The elements of the crime that would warrant a conviction would include planning by one or more persons AND overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. Frankly, the LARPing that goes on here doesn't qualify for anything other than scorn and derision.
Yes but planning WHAT, Going to DC and protesting? what overt facts do they have that there was intent to do anything? this is all bullshit, there was NO guns and the violence in DC was from the left and the capital police, and when are they going to release ALL the video's they took? This will show all the antifa and BLM and all the people that where actually causing the problems, Oh that's right it will also expose all the FBI/CIA agents also involved so they will never be released
I'm saying the 'autonomous zones' are more like insurrection zones and the assholes that claimed territory, by force, and attempted to hold it as no longer under USA authority IS the definition of seditious conspiracy (USC title 18 ss 2384)...
The International Conference on the Communist Party of China and the Progress on Human Rights in China held on Thursday has shown China's achievements and experience in advancing human rights development, which the country is willing to share with the world.
Given the leadership we have, there aren't very many better men apparently.
The entire established system is against us at every level.
That is not a fight one man with an AR-15 is going to win.
To think otherwise is foolish and braggadocios beyond reason.
Exactly, we don't need to fight. We just need to secede and be ready to fight. They can't survive without us. 90% of the nation is red counties are red. I would rather join Russia who is full of oligarchs than to be a part of globofag western society.
I'm starting to believe all we can do at this point is wait for Russia to incinerate DC, detonate the high altitude EMPS and watch everything go to hell.
Have to burn it all down and rebuild new. Anyone that stands in the way is a traitor and is IMMEDIATELY delt with.
Any other government around the world opens their yap, carpet bomb their capitol. We need a don't fuck with us President who doesn't want friends.
Any other government around the world opens their yap, carpet bomb their capitol.
If Russia incinerates DC would we still have a functional organized military? Would the military be on our side? Actually that would lead to most of the world being destroyed in a nuclear holocaust. It's gonna be hard to even find military equipment.
I rather join Russia who is full of oligarchs than be apart of globofag western society. The blue counties need us to survive and not the other way around.
That's the ultimate goal of the Marxist Democrats. They want total destruction of all forms of ownership information so they can usher in a communist dictatorship that will take over all ownership in the state of mass confusion.
Kanye is an extremely rich wealthy successful man. The worst experience he's had in the last 25 years is doing Kim Kardashian. All his financial troubles are of his own making. If he only ends up with a million dollars, he's still better off than 99% of Americans. I'm not pitying the man and neither should you.
Fellow Optic cucks, Trump needs to completely disavow Fuentes, Ye, Alex Jones, David Icke, Roger Stone, Flynn, the January 6th detainee and yes, even Elon Musk and his 2016 self.
It is the only way for him to become electable ahead of 2024, unlike what happened in 2020.
If only more pedes that would explain how the Confederacy was really right, Hitler's Germany was a Utopia, women shouldn't have the right to vote and ISIS is right about gays. I mean, shit, those are totally winning messages. I can't see why people won't join our cause? /s
Do you think that keeping all of the union under your owns side with military force is the way to go? Jailing and censoring those dissenting with this war too? -D Not stating this was wrong. Just asking cuz he kinda was authoritarian.
Personally, I'm recognizing that peasant revolts (like what's happening in China) are historically doomed to failure if they don't immediately blitzkreig the entire national leadership and waiting for someone with institutional power to step up with the power of that institution and lead the revolution. The leadership of the American revolution was made up of people with power, whether that be money or military loyalty or foreign connections. Without those leaders, we could not have beaten the british.
It starts with whatever state is ballsy enough to start expelling federal agencies from its borders, and when someone with wealth and means starts funding the defense of patriots.
It would have to be bigger. In Crusader Kings 3 when a BIG revolt happens all the lords rise up in their territory and March on you thereby taking your levies and gold from their realms so in 50 state revolt scenario all state Capitals and DC would need to be held
yep. The Chinese people aren't going to win. They don't have guns or organization and a lot of them haven't been properly fed in months. The government can stand to lose a few million men and it's not going to hurt China's government or economy at all, It's very very sad.
We are because they at least use their dictatorship to advance their power around the world. Our dictators use their power to lose everything we have worked for
Well according to half, these people are FBI plants and the other half sees them as patriots
Stewert Rhodes never even entered the capitol and now he is going to die in jail. He is 57 years old and just got an estimated 20-year sentence and people age twice as fast in jail on average
Sadly Hunter Biden - the smartest man Joe knows - had borrowed the other brain cell to steer himself through his Ukrainian-grift-fueled drug and hooker orgies.
What about the probable feds, and their stooges, behind the 2020 'autonomous zones' - which fit the definition of seditious conspiracy to the fucking letter??
Feds and their stooge agents/crisis actors can't be prosecuted for the exact crimes they committed by a DOJ aligned with the USA??
The statute of limitations is at least 5 years people!!
I suppose it depends on your definition of evidence. Have they outright admitted it? Not that I'm aware of. But run a search FBI informant January 6 on a non biased search engine like qwant and you'll see plenty left leaning publications saying that there was.
I remember hearing about this book “Three Felonies A Day: How The Feds Target The Innocent” where it details how many people have basically committed one or more felonies by the time they’re eating breakfast or something to that effect.
There's no doubt. What Trump did (questioning their coup) is enough, they'll come up with some bullshit charges to either jail him or just to claim he's ineligible to run again. I do wish he had actually stood up for the J6 protesters- allowing it to be spun as some insurrection won't help his cause.
I still don't get it. Somehow they had us bamboozled on January 6th and set up all these traps to frame us well in advance. The guards, the agents/infiltrators, the pipe bomb claim, Nancy's daughter recording a video. It's like they had this whole script of exactly how it was going to play out, while Trump and ourselves were caught dumbfounded on what was happening. The only person with an ounce of insight that day was Alex Jones who told people not to go inside (and thank God he did, otherwise, Jones would be in a J6 jail cell too).
Without a doubt - and yet voices calling for people to go in (Epps, that CNN guy, and I'm sure the ones breaking the windows in Antifa-style outfits) all amazingly disappeared.
It's incredible that they totally suppressed reporting on real crowd sizes (prior Stop the Steal marches too - "several hundred protesters" which was probably 200,000+, "several thousand" for what was 500,000+ on Jan 6), that they organized violent riots all summer long themselves + had their proxy groups disrupt proceedings in the Capitol on multiple occasions and then memory-holed all of it, and then totally spun up a BS narrative of "insurrection" for what was clearly a planned smear event on their part. The disappointment at the only shooting there being unarmed Ashli Babbitt still has to be killing them - I'm sure we'd have seen martial law and Trump deposed had they managed to get the crowd to engage. A coup, and the media and intelligence community helped it happen. Crazy.
Like anyone is going to come and save us. America is being milked for everything it has left. When that's done, we're a few strikes away from a bad time.
What are these border jumpers going to do when they realize America is just another 3rd world shithole? Treat it like one.
Will be interesting to see how the next few years play out. A lot of these old people should die within 10 years.
just remember, those southerners were evil racist slave owners, in fact every one of them owned slaves. Without exception they all wanted and fought for slavery.
They certainly didn't figure out that the federal govt was an opposition force denying them a Christian nation run by Christian land owners only.
US government is evil. They have been for a while, bombing ppl all over the planet. Now theyre looking inward as people get uppity and are realizing it.
Many of us knew it the minute those towers fell and the laws enacted after (TSA, Wiretaps, Patriot Act etc) truth is you can back to JFK or even further to the creation of the federal reserve
I think his point is that we assume doing something on your phone is “openly”.
There was a day and a time where the words “assumption of privacy” meant something. The constitution says we have the right to be secure in our persons and papers… society used to assume this extended to places where you had a reasonable assumption of privacy - like your phone.
The poster was spot on pointing out how much we’ve shifted to just calling that “openly” instead of “in private”.
I understand how technology works but we used to consider phone calls private despite miles of physical line connecting them.
You used to have to get a warrant to wiretap someone because of that expectation of privacy. DMs would be a modern extension to that unless it explicitly stated the communication was considered public.
The posters point about societies quiet shift on the topic is a good one.
They are facing 20 years, they should have just gone all the way. And watch their fellow Oathkeepers leave them behind as people here call them feds in an effort to write them off, whether they have any evidence of that or not.
Everyone, you can't afford to do this LARPy stuff. If you're going to engage in these activities you need to know where the point of no return is... and in shitlib jurisdictions the space between nothing and 20 to life is very narrow. If you've crossed it... you might as well shoot your way out.
If you're not prepared for that, don't go. No more of these performative displays.
Yep. You don’t get to go half way and get mad when convicted. This guy was on video saying all the things an average jury would convict for. Just to lose his life to the very people he felt strong enough to threaten. All for a photo opp
This only proves that if you're going to do anything, you best go down fighting. There is no more justice, there's no point to surrender. It's a bar floor brawling.
This is a message to organized groups. They should have claimed that their group is just an idea. Even though they did not have a jury of their peers. Only lone wolfs have a chance.
One of his co-defendants, Kelly Meggs, was also found guilty of seditious conspiracy while the three others - Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell - were acquitted of that charge.
All five defendants were convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding - the congressional certification of the election results
They will try and hit Trump with that.
with mixed verdicts on a handful of other charges.
All that is wanted by them is a felony conviction of Trump for anything so that he is disqualified from running. Watching this appeal will be a important precedent, if not the most important prededent in recent memory
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Just wondering were all the leftist protester prosecutions are ...
Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, ... or to oppose by force the authority thereof.
Multiple people at a protest planning to resisting arrest, locked in chains or glued to something? Seditious conspiracy.
Seditious conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, ... or delay the execution of any law of the United States.
Kavanaugh protests? Or any left wing protests that delay any upper or lower chamber proceedings? Seditious conspiracy.
Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, ... or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.
Go for a joy ride with your bro in a postal truck? Seditious conspiracy.
This is a travesty. The Oathkeepers are present and former military personnel, and law enforcement officers. They took the oath and have vowed to defend it to their last breath (unlike politicians). They must be defended at all costs. They believe in you.
The whole thing is a pysop to break the citizens of this country. They cheated and want to put away anyone that might not be okay with them creating ballot after ballot to put their guys in power.
Poor bastards got railroaded by an illegitimate corrupt government run by pedophiles and the worst part is that the American people don't give a fuck and will leave them to rot.
None of this changes until Americans wake the fuck up and find out it HAS ALWAYS BEEN and WILL ALWAYS BE Rome attacking our freedom so that we as FREE MEN go back under the absolute tyranny of the Roman papacy. It will never happen, but y’all need to READ A BOOK.
They're not going to bro, just read this fucking thread. If you want to be depressed, look at all the slackjawed soy laden faggots in this thread who are scared to fucking death.
The system has terrorized the overwhelming majority of our population into submission. Nobody is ever going to stand up, at least, not in any meaningful amount.
People say shit like "yea but we only need 2%" and I'm like, bro, you can't even get 0.000000000000000000000000000000002%, and what ones you DO get, get hung out to dry and then once they get thrown under the bus, their own fucking side calls them glofags.
Bread and circus is too good, and the fear is too strong. Ain't nobody going to wake the fuck up.
Yep, these people will be left behind; they've already been written off.
When people go on about "feds" here, half the time it's just another form of excusemaking and copeposting. They don't want to have to give a shit because if these people are for real then they might feel a bit of shame for talking mad shit and then letting these other guys go down completely without support; thus, they must not be real because if they are that makes them a bad person for abandoning their allies.
I remember when we actually started to generate momentum after the steal with protests and such......and those patriots that actually stood up were immediately thrown under the bus and called "glowies." Every attempted protest thereafter was labeled a "glowie trap."
This. You might think if you stood up, there'd be patriots protesting and warfare in the streets on the behalf of freedom and justice. But look at how nobody will do that for these guys. That will be you if you decide to sack up, only to find nobody has your back. So lone wolves with nothing left to lose will be the ones to make a change. And the more they push their agenda, the more people will lose everything, and be pushed to the point of no return. When the pendulum reaches its apex, it will swing back. The physics of that potential to kinetic energy may be analogous to doing a 180 in this society.
The Freedom Fighter's Manual"The Freedom Fighter's Manual is the title of a fifteen-page propaganda booklet that was manufactured by the United States Central Intelligence Agency and airdropped over Nicaragua in 1983, with the stated goal of providing a "Practical guide to liberating Nicaragua from oppression and misery by paralyzing the military-industrial complex of the traitorous marxist state". The manual explains several methods by which the average citizen could cause civil disorder. The airdrops began after the Sandinista National Liberation Front, which had overthrown the former Nicaraguan leader, Anastasio Somoza in 1979, and had ties to the Soviet Union and Cuba, began to fund a similar revolutionary group in El Salvador. A Contra fighter gave the manual to a U.S. reporter in Honduras in 1984."
No Ray Epps or John Sullivan...?
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I hope they at least release the interview where democrats supposedly cleared epps of wrongdoing, then pretend they have no clue who he is.
someone should ask Trump if Epps was a fedboi
I think he's staying as far away from anything having to do with J6th as possible.
MTG said he’s been donating to their defense, and has also said that he’ll pardon them if elected in 2024.
She had a thread on Twitter the other day talking about what GEOTUS is doing in regards to J6, since he keeps being criticized for not doing anything.
She’s an awesome lady. We need like way more people like her.
If elected..... KEK.... No chance boys n girls
If there was fraud why does he plan on running again? I don’t see a big plan. One person suggested to me that his fund raising was for anticipated legal battles, but we saw how those go. No one wants Kraken 2.0.
The first step on the path to success is to say "I'll try" and the last step on the road to failure is to say "I give up."
Too much is at stake to give up. Doesn't mean I don't think they'll just cheat again in 2024; I fully expected them to cheat in 2020 and 2022 and they did. It just means, we have to keep trying, since our very survival is at stake. Miracles do happen, like in 2016.
Trump will run in 2024, regardless of whether the democrats are going to cheat or not, as he's really our best and maybe only hope of saving America. It doesn't matter if it's already too late, and indeed it may be, we must keep the faith and try anyway.
As is often said, if they were undefeatable they wouldn't have to psyop so hard, and if Trump had no chance of winning they wouldn't fear him so much.
so they just have to wait a few years in prison for the chance that trump wins, and pardons him this time, when he had the chance to do it when president but didn't? sounds a bit like 2 more weeks stuff to me
You have to have a conviction for a pardon, otherwise it's not a pardon. Some states alow it prior to conviction, but this is DC and federal charges. Trump was not in office when the people went to court.
Why do the uninformed miss simple shit like number 1, and then use typical leftard types of talking points like 2 more weeks when it doesn't apply?
"The president can issue a pardon at any point after a crime is committed and before, during or after criminal proceedings have taken place. The president cannot, however, pardon someone for future crimes. A pardon covers both the offender's conviction for the crime and the sentence for that crime."
I think the reason people miss #1 is that it isn't true. Edit: Treason, which can't be pardoned in the first place, was the ostensible reason for their capture and prosecution. Then the Left backed down further and further, effectively nullifying the chance of a pardon. It would make an interesting supreme court case, but Trump wasn't going to pardon people for treason, even if he could have. How the fuck would he know none of the shit congress and the DOJ was saying in court was true?
No you don't. Bannon was pardoned on the We Build The Wall fraud charge before he went on trial or pleaded out.
President Jimmy Faggot Carter pardoned several hundred thousand Vietnam War draft dodging faggots who had never been charged, must less convicted, of a crime.
That is incorrect.
Go get the sauce.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/01/17/presidential-pardons-settled-law-unsettled-issues-and-a-downside-for-trump/
I hope the FBI is disbanded. i wish I could run for office and get to the White House one day.
But then again, voting doesn't mean shit anymore.
You have to start small...like small children.
Nah. I'm good.
Was more thinking of publicly executed by flame-thrower or bullet ants.
What would be the purpose of doing that?
J6 is one of the two purviews of special council. The other is the “classified” docs at Mar a Lago
yes. Merrick Garland successfully pulled those investigations away from the house so he can keep them alive for the next two years. It's obviously political. It's obviously partisan and unfair. It's also legal. I fully suspect that in retaliation neither McCarthy or McConnell will do anything at all because they hate Trump (and us) just as much, if not more, than Biden and Merrick Garland do.
agree, I fully expect the special counsel to have a fully funded budget with plenty of staff
yep, our tax money thrown away on another witch hunt. Along with everything else that our money gets thrown away on.
The MSM talking heads will go on and on over how "Bipartisan" it is as all the RINO's endorse it.
Did you know that "Garland" was changed from "Garfinkel" several generations earlier?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland
Early life.
I. Don't. Care. Tony Fauci is a Catholic. Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic. Joe Biden is a Catholic. Michael Pence was born and raised a Catholic.
It's two very different kinds of investigations. DoJ's are criminal investigations. The House's investigation is to determine what kinds of laws are needed (or should be changed) to address the matters related to J6. I don't think the J6 Committee did much of anything with the classified material at Mar-a-Lago.
to get the Truth out?
k, and whose opinions do you think that truth is going to change?
NPCs' who believe the Dems "have no clue who he is" ?
The NPC's don't know because they don't care. They neither care about the J6 protest, the House hearings or anything else related to the matter. It doesn't affect their lives and they'll go on as normal whether they know the truth or not.
I didn't know you could be found to have committed a crime for just being seditious
Definition of seditious
I didn't know we live in an Monarchy
Funny, but State means governing body.
Including Monarchy implies the state of a Monarch, which comes from laws under British rule, our country was founded on Sedition against a monarchy. under British rule, there were also states and governors,
The state is also a nation. As in "L'etat, c'est moi" or "state-sponsored terrorism"
I would like to see the law that they actually used in these cases, The way I see it, just speaking here we all can be brought up on sedition charges, this would be against the constitution on freedom of speech, per the Definition, and the constitution gives us direct rights to REBEL against a tyrannical government, and them prosecuting people for doing just that without even being armed, that is what the constitution says we should do, REBEL, So they are making it look like we aren't aloud to even challenge them, FUCK THAT, they aren't our bosses, they are our EMPLOYEE'S We are the government, and we have allowed them to have to much power for to long, and it's time to take it back
The elements of the crime that would warrant a conviction would include planning by one or more persons AND overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. Frankly, the LARPing that goes on here doesn't qualify for anything other than scorn and derision.
Yes but planning WHAT, Going to DC and protesting? what overt facts do they have that there was intent to do anything? this is all bullshit, there was NO guns and the violence in DC was from the left and the capital police, and when are they going to release ALL the video's they took? This will show all the antifa and BLM and all the people that where actually causing the problems, Oh that's right it will also expose all the FBI/CIA agents also involved so they will never be released
What about the 2020 'autonomous zones' that literally fit the AKTSHUAL definition of seditious conspiracy???
(P.S. the statute of limitations is at least 5 years on federal shit)
Sauce: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2384&num=0&edition=1999
Seriously, these guys should have just pled guilty to diddling a kid, they would be out of jail already,
I have no idea what you are trying to communicate there.
I'm saying the 'autonomous zones' are more like insurrection zones and the assholes that claimed territory, by force, and attempted to hold it as no longer under USA authority IS the definition of seditious conspiracy (USC title 18 ss 2384)...
Irony alert???
The summer of love 2020
They forgot Marinus van der Lubbe
Did either of them join a gang that conspired to disrupt official US proceedings and kidnap US politicians?
That's what these retards did.
Stop glorifying them.
Yeah as a matter of fact those two treasonous barstewards DID do those things, but the others not so much.
I'm not glorifying them, their actions and history do that.
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I'd be more inclined to believe your views if the thousands of Leftists who did the same thing, or worse, were also charged and convicted.
ok retard
We’re no different than China
Worse. China doesn’t pretend to have freedom
Nah.
Read more CCP shill news, it makes for some nice reading. Sometimes better than the Babylon Bee.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-04/08/c_139867313.htm
We’re worse than China.
Chinks are in the streets right now.. what are we doing?
Nothing, cause the minute we do anything we're guilty of seditious conspiracy.
Our government has effectively criminalized the very thing that founded this nation.
And the media and the corporations and millions of people are just fine with that.
So basically being a "too much to loser" faggot praying better men fix the problems
Be the change you desire.
I already was, and am not gonna do a single thing more until "too much to loser" faggots get some skin in the game.
Sure you are you do-nothing faggot.
The other day you said you moved away from the USA so...
Well you could always go out and solve some of the problems. Nothing is stopping you.
I already did, and after getting zero support, I fucked off outta the country because why should I continue fighting for "too much to loser" faggots
Where did you even go? Everywhere else is worse than here.
Given the leadership we have, there aren't very many better men apparently. The entire established system is against us at every level. That is not a fight one man with an AR-15 is going to win.
To think otherwise is foolish and braggadocios beyond reason.
It's not a fight you have to even take with weapons, a general strike from supply chain workers would immediately cripple all cities
Exactly, we don't need to fight. We just need to secede and be ready to fight. They can't survive without us. 90% of the nation is red counties are red. I would rather join Russia who is full of oligarchs than to be a part of globofag western society.
Yes. This.
I often point out how weak and useless we are; and that includes me.
I'm starting to believe all we can do at this point is wait for Russia to incinerate DC, detonate the high altitude EMPS and watch everything go to hell.
Have to burn it all down and rebuild new. Anyone that stands in the way is a traitor and is IMMEDIATELY delt with. Any other government around the world opens their yap, carpet bomb their capitol. We need a don't fuck with us President who doesn't want friends.
If Russia incinerates DC would we still have a functional organized military? Would the military be on our side? Actually that would lead to most of the world being destroyed in a nuclear holocaust. It's gonna be hard to even find military equipment.
I rather join Russia who is full of oligarchs than be apart of globofag western society. The blue counties need us to survive and not the other way around.
That's the ultimate goal of the Marxist Democrats. They want total destruction of all forms of ownership information so they can usher in a communist dictatorship that will take over all ownership in the state of mass confusion.
The key is to eliminate the liberals from the shadows.
We should eliminate them from the daylight while we're at it too.
They can’t arrest us all. Overwhelm their system and execute them all.
Making pepe memes and waiting 2 more weeks for the next Q drop
Exactly this. Memes can't win a war.
Oh, I thought most of people here were sucking Kanye's cock and Naming Jews because ya know, convincing and productive stuff.
Kanye may be wacko but who wouldn't be after what they put him through, doesn't stop him from being right about your small hat pals either
Kanye is an extremely rich wealthy successful man. The worst experience he's had in the last 25 years is doing Kim Kardashian. All his financial troubles are of his own making. If he only ends up with a million dollars, he's still better off than 99% of Americans. I'm not pitying the man and neither should you.
It's not pity for Kanye. He names the jew and says White Lives Matter and talks about White hate. We like this.
☝️Only cock sucker i see around here👆
Fellow Optic cucks, Trump needs to completely disavow Fuentes, Ye, Alex Jones, David Icke, Roger Stone, Flynn, the January 6th detainee and yes, even Elon Musk and his 2016 self.
It is the only way for him to become electable ahead of 2024, unlike what happened in 2020.
Oh, I'm pretty sure you got your legs all spread when Kanye's DEATHCOM tweet got posted.
Gets you all wet dont it pussy.
Calling other people who did go into the streets dumb and glowfags.
If only more pedes that would explain how the Confederacy was really right, Hitler's Germany was a Utopia, women shouldn't have the right to vote and ISIS is right about gays. I mean, shit, those are totally winning messages. I can't see why people won't join our cause? /s
The truth hurts.
"Stop attacking the lies and psyops the enemy narrative served us, fellow pedes!"
There are valid reasons why the system bothered to establish the mainstream history narrative.
These are lies, psyops that exists for the benefit of the system and at our expense.
His husbands boyfriend is probably good at that too.
yep, Bubba, that's really going to turn out the voters for Trump. /s Just keep pretending that's what anyone cares about and what wins elections.
lol at still thinking elections are won by voters.
The Confederacy was right about states rights. Slavery wasn't the issue.
Every Suburban mom that votes finds that totally relevant to her daily life. /s
Then we should repeal the 14th and ban women from voting.
FOREVER!
The mainstream history narrative exists for a reason. To mislead us. At our expense at at the benefit of the enemy.
This guy thinks Democrats were right.
Do you think Lincoln was right?
Do you think that keeping all of the union under your owns side with military force is the way to go? Jailing and censoring those dissenting with this war too? -D Not stating this was wrong. Just asking cuz he kinda was authoritarian.
Personally, I'm recognizing that peasant revolts (like what's happening in China) are historically doomed to failure if they don't immediately blitzkreig the entire national leadership and waiting for someone with institutional power to step up with the power of that institution and lead the revolution. The leadership of the American revolution was made up of people with power, whether that be money or military loyalty or foreign connections. Without those leaders, we could not have beaten the british.
It starts with whatever state is ballsy enough to start expelling federal agencies from its borders, and when someone with wealth and means starts funding the defense of patriots.
It would have to be bigger. In Crusader Kings 3 when a BIG revolt happens all the lords rise up in their territory and March on you thereby taking your levies and gold from their realms so in 50 state revolt scenario all state Capitals and DC would need to be held
Yep, any kind of revolution in the US will require a coalition of states coming together, with powerful and influential leaders...
Wait, that's happened before.
But back then the north was way more industrialized, and also united in a physical bloc.
This would be a war of cities v everyone else.
And a war most of them are not willing to fight.
Give it time. People have to suffer before they are willing to fight.
yep. The Chinese people aren't going to win. They don't have guns or organization and a lot of them haven't been properly fed in months. The government can stand to lose a few million men and it's not going to hurt China's government or economy at all, It's very very sad.
These protests in China are clearer smaller than those of Brazil.
Brazilians don't fear their military turning on them in the street.
Who do we have who is wealthy enough?
I nominate Musk for Emperor of the New Texas Republic.
Posting memes and telling each other to vote harder
We are because they at least use their dictatorship to advance their power around the world. Our dictators use their power to lose everything we have worked for
Where are the FBI plants? This is such horseshit.
It's the same folks who were surprised to find out that Freddie Mercury, Elton John, and Bill Mitchell were all flaming faggots
At least Liberace was straight .
Thank God we still have Judas Priest.
This comment should be stickied.
Kek
The creepy Donkey Kong guy?
They shouldn't have to be "bright". The election was stolen and they had a right to be pissed off about it.
Stupid is as stupid does, but illegal is in the eye of the beholder.
Tell BLM that, faggot.
We need to do illegal things to get our country back. Meet them at their lowest level!
As opposed to you, who prefers to sit on your fat, cowardly ass and criticize those who stood up to call out a stolen election. Vote harder, right?
There is a reason stings are illegal. Because they don't prove the person would have actually ever done the thing.
Don’t work yourself into a shoot, brother
I saw that he was on tape making all types of serious threats. Hard to argue to the average juror that he didn’t mean what he said.
Well according to half, these people are FBI plants and the other half sees them as patriots
Stewert Rhodes never even entered the capitol and now he is going to die in jail. He is 57 years old and just got an estimated 20-year sentence and people age twice as fast in jail on average
Yea last I checked seditious conspiracy was completely different charge than tress-passing.
Yet pAntifa and BLM remain uncharged with trying to burn down Federal buildings during the Summer of Fiery, but Mostly Peaceful Protests.
And what about benghazi
Don't forget that the Nazi SS began as "Antifa" too.
Don't forget that this statement is wildly inaccurate.
Sadly Hunter Biden - the smartest man Joe knows - had borrowed the other brain cell to steer himself through his Ukrainian-grift-fueled drug and hooker orgies.
What about the probable feds, and their stooges, behind the 2020 'autonomous zones' - which fit the definition of seditious conspiracy to the fucking letter??
Feds and their stooge agents/crisis actors can't be prosecuted for the exact crimes they committed by a DOJ aligned with the USA??
The statute of limitations is at least 5 years people!!
Spread the goddamn word.
Sauce: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2384&num=0&edition=1999
There's no evidence of FBI plants, is there?
I suppose it depends on your definition of evidence. Have they outright admitted it? Not that I'm aware of. But run a search FBI informant January 6 on a non biased search engine like qwant and you'll see plenty left leaning publications saying that there was.
One of the links I found:
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/in-undercover-video-new-york-times-reporter-admits-ton-of-fbi-informants-at-the-capitol-on-jan-6/
That's an extremist website, you can Google or duckduckgo this information in like 5 seconds
"“Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.”"
Totally corrupt justice system in the US.....
Coincidentally, Beria was a pedo too
Coincidentally, the U.S.S.R was founded by Bolsheviks.
I remember hearing about this book “Three Felonies A Day: How The Feds Target The Innocent” where it details how many people have basically committed one or more felonies by the time they’re eating breakfast or something to that effect.
Big surprise. They’ll do Trump next.
Sadly, I think you are right.
There's no doubt. What Trump did (questioning their coup) is enough, they'll come up with some bullshit charges to either jail him or just to claim he's ineligible to run again. I do wish he had actually stood up for the J6 protesters- allowing it to be spun as some insurrection won't help his cause.
a blanket pardon was all he needed to do. instead he will bitch about it after the fact.
I still don't get it. Somehow they had us bamboozled on January 6th and set up all these traps to frame us well in advance. The guards, the agents/infiltrators, the pipe bomb claim, Nancy's daughter recording a video. It's like they had this whole script of exactly how it was going to play out, while Trump and ourselves were caught dumbfounded on what was happening. The only person with an ounce of insight that day was Alex Jones who told people not to go inside (and thank God he did, otherwise, Jones would be in a J6 jail cell too).
Without a doubt - and yet voices calling for people to go in (Epps, that CNN guy, and I'm sure the ones breaking the windows in Antifa-style outfits) all amazingly disappeared.
It's incredible that they totally suppressed reporting on real crowd sizes (prior Stop the Steal marches too - "several hundred protesters" which was probably 200,000+, "several thousand" for what was 500,000+ on Jan 6), that they organized violent riots all summer long themselves + had their proxy groups disrupt proceedings in the Capitol on multiple occasions and then memory-holed all of it, and then totally spun up a BS narrative of "insurrection" for what was clearly a planned smear event on their part. The disappointment at the only shooting there being unarmed Ashli Babbitt still has to be killing them - I'm sure we'd have seen martial law and Trump deposed had they managed to get the crowd to engage. A coup, and the media and intelligence community helped it happen. Crazy.
When are politicians who steal taxpayer money, sell the country to China, and steal elections going to be found guilty of sedition and treason?
Like anyone is going to come and save us. America is being milked for everything it has left. When that's done, we're a few strikes away from a bad time.
What are these border jumpers going to do when they realize America is just another 3rd world shithole? Treat it like one.
Will be interesting to see how the next few years play out. A lot of these old people should die within 10 years.
Never. Only we will.
When the Citizenry rises up against them as is their 2nd amendment duty.
Is that when the shooting starts?
Them shooting us perhaps.
His role will be whatever they say it is.
That was the point of it.
Any and all patriot groups will be outlawed and banned.
It gets in the way of the communist agenda
It gets in the way of the globalist corporatist agenda.
Henry ford wrote a book about the global corporatist agenda.
Same diff
The lineage of Satan wears the mask of both halves of the uniparty whenever it suits them.
Potato/Potato
Anytime PDW goes down for a minute I half expect it was the feds and I’ll never see you faggots again 🥹. This would make me sad.
In a civil war once the handcuffs are on you are no longer a player on the field.
Your opposition is already letting out their players from prison. Rapists and murderers.
You are dying with little to no fight at all.
This is much less a civil war and more of a "administrative coup d'etate"
You speak of the USA as a foreigner, an outsider. Do you criticize your own country and it's people the same way you do the USA?
My country is Dixie. It was taken from me before I was born.
I am now forced by threat of arrest to pay taxes to an occupational govt owned by corporations.
I am not free.
I don't need to do shit you say.
PDW is a Fed honey pot. They'll keep it running.
FBI already has all their symbols including the Betsy Ross flag as terrorist symbols.
just remember, those southerners were evil racist slave owners, in fact every one of them owned slaves. Without exception they all wanted and fought for slavery.
They certainly didn't figure out that the federal govt was an opposition force denying them a Christian nation run by Christian land owners only.
No sir ree. They were evil slavers.
Oh that comes later. It's a feature.
Meanwhile, George Kirby riots have been memory-holed and not a soul has been held accountable. Kamala and co bailed them out.
You terrorists murdered over 50 people, you didn’t just “burn a target”, faggot.
Or a country apparently
US government is evil. They have been for a while, bombing ppl all over the planet. Now theyre looking inward as people get uppity and are realizing it.
Where is Ray Epps? Why wasnt he prosecuted?
The USA has been a banana republic for two decades at a minimum, we just know it now.
Many of us knew it the minute those towers fell and the laws enacted after (TSA, Wiretaps, Patriot Act etc) truth is you can back to JFK or even further to the creation of the federal reserve
Woodrow Wilson set us up on the fucked up timeline we've been on for generations.
LBJ.
Hot take from the fedora tipping handshake. Back up the Feds and educate us more daddy.
so the 1st amendment means nothing, got it
This is what we've come to.
I think his point is that we assume doing something on your phone is “openly”.
There was a day and a time where the words “assumption of privacy” meant something. The constitution says we have the right to be secure in our persons and papers… society used to assume this extended to places where you had a reasonable assumption of privacy - like your phone.
The poster was spot on pointing out how much we’ve shifted to just calling that “openly” instead of “in private”.
I understand how technology works but we used to consider phone calls private despite miles of physical line connecting them.
You used to have to get a warrant to wiretap someone because of that expectation of privacy. DMs would be a modern extension to that unless it explicitly stated the communication was considered public.
The posters point about societies quiet shift on the topic is a good one.
D.C. is occupied, hostile territory...
Since no one has a meaningful plan to do anything about it, I don't suppose there's any point in worrying.
Meanwhile faggots who rape our children are celebrated. We need revolution in this country.
It starts in the bedroom. We need more patriot babies.
They are facing 20 years, they should have just gone all the way. And watch their fellow Oathkeepers leave them behind as people here call them feds in an effort to write them off, whether they have any evidence of that or not.
Everyone, you can't afford to do this LARPy stuff. If you're going to engage in these activities you need to know where the point of no return is... and in shitlib jurisdictions the space between nothing and 20 to life is very narrow. If you've crossed it... you might as well shoot your way out.
If you're not prepared for that, don't go. No more of these performative displays.
Yep. You don’t get to go half way and get mad when convicted. This guy was on video saying all the things an average jury would convict for. Just to lose his life to the very people he felt strong enough to threaten. All for a photo opp
This only proves that if you're going to do anything, you best go down fighting. There is no more justice, there's no point to surrender. It's a bar floor brawling.
This is a message to organized groups. They should have claimed that their group is just an idea. Even though they did not have a jury of their peers. Only lone wolfs have a chance.
A jury of their peers would have also convicted them.
Stop ignoring the details because you want to save face for actually supporting these retards.
They never do these trials in the area where people live. It's never a jury of peers.
Who do you support?
They should have declared the capitol an "autonomous zone" and it would have been fine.
One of his co-defendants, Kelly Meggs, was also found guilty of seditious conspiracy while the three others - Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell - were acquitted of that charge.
They will try and hit Trump with that.
All that is wanted by them is a felony conviction of Trump for anything so that he is disqualified from running. Watching this appeal will be a important precedent, if not the most important prededent in recent memory
doesn't matter if they were innocent the verdict was predetermined.. the deep state wanted its scalps.
Yep, just like Chauvin, what actually happened doesn't matter.
We should vote harder next time.
Next do BLM and Antifa
Someone photo shopped the weapons of war out of their hands already?
........................... but not Insurrection? Lol ... shocker. 🤓🙄
What, not 'insurrection'?
Just wondering were all the leftist protester prosecutions are ...
Multiple people at a protest planning to resisting arrest, locked in chains or glued to something? Seditious conspiracy.
Kavanaugh protests? Or any left wing protests that delay any upper or lower chamber proceedings? Seditious conspiracy.
Go for a joy ride with your bro in a postal truck? Seditious conspiracy.
Literally anyone who writes on p.w could be prosecuted under this law, and convicted with sufficient redefinition of works and assuming intent
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This is a travesty. The Oathkeepers are present and former military personnel, and law enforcement officers. They took the oath and have vowed to defend it to their last breath (unlike politicians). They must be defended at all costs. They believe in you.
The whole thing is a pysop to break the citizens of this country. They cheated and want to put away anyone that might not be okay with them creating ballot after ballot to put their guys in power.
Monitor
Poor bastards got railroaded by an illegitimate corrupt government run by pedophiles and the worst part is that the American people don't give a fuck and will leave them to rot.
None of this changes until Americans wake the fuck up and find out it HAS ALWAYS BEEN and WILL ALWAYS BE Rome attacking our freedom so that we as FREE MEN go back under the absolute tyranny of the Roman papacy. It will never happen, but y’all need to READ A BOOK.
They're not going to bro, just read this fucking thread. If you want to be depressed, look at all the slackjawed soy laden faggots in this thread who are scared to fucking death.
The system has terrorized the overwhelming majority of our population into submission. Nobody is ever going to stand up, at least, not in any meaningful amount.
People say shit like "yea but we only need 2%" and I'm like, bro, you can't even get 0.000000000000000000000000000000002%, and what ones you DO get, get hung out to dry and then once they get thrown under the bus, their own fucking side calls them glofags.
Bread and circus is too good, and the fear is too strong. Ain't nobody going to wake the fuck up.
This nation is done.
Facts
Yep, these people will be left behind; they've already been written off.
When people go on about "feds" here, half the time it's just another form of excusemaking and copeposting. They don't want to have to give a shit because if these people are for real then they might feel a bit of shame for talking mad shit and then letting these other guys go down completely without support; thus, they must not be real because if they are that makes them a bad person for abandoning their allies.
Pure cognitive dissonance.
It's very blackpilling. All so tiresome.
Same as the sixers. They've been left to rot.
This x100000.
I remember when we actually started to generate momentum after the steal with protests and such......and those patriots that actually stood up were immediately thrown under the bus and called "glowies." Every attempted protest thereafter was labeled a "glowie trap."
That's when I knew we were toast
Uhh no retard. The ones who were preaching blatant violence were getting called glowies.
This. You might think if you stood up, there'd be patriots protesting and warfare in the streets on the behalf of freedom and justice. But look at how nobody will do that for these guys. That will be you if you decide to sack up, only to find nobody has your back. So lone wolves with nothing left to lose will be the ones to make a change. And the more they push their agenda, the more people will lose everything, and be pushed to the point of no return. When the pendulum reaches its apex, it will swing back. The physics of that potential to kinetic energy may be analogous to doing a 180 in this society.
The Freedom Fighter's Manual "The Freedom Fighter's Manual is the title of a fifteen-page propaganda booklet that was manufactured by the United States Central Intelligence Agency and airdropped over Nicaragua in 1983, with the stated goal of providing a "Practical guide to liberating Nicaragua from oppression and misery by paralyzing the military-industrial complex of the traitorous marxist state". The manual explains several methods by which the average citizen could cause civil disorder. The airdrops began after the Sandinista National Liberation Front, which had overthrown the former Nicaraguan leader, Anastasio Somoza in 1979, and had ties to the Soviet Union and Cuba, began to fund a similar revolutionary group in El Salvador. A Contra fighter gave the manual to a U.S. reporter in Honduras in 1984."
https://archive.ph/vmtDu#selection-219.0-219.28
Lol respond to the rest of the comment
Bullshit.
Where's all the FBI agents that entrapped them?
This is total BS. They couldn’t have possibly had a fair trial.
So these are the few that were not FBI.
So the FBI admits they let them inside the Capitol on purpose despite having knowledge this was the case?
Liz Cheney asked about Ray Epps (never gets old)
LOL
grandpas and grandmas
Exactly, what the fuck were these poor saps gonna do?
What is the punishment for this, a millennium in a supermax prison?