That's fucked up because gab has been de-banked, discriminated against. The "hate crime" laws have been massaged in real good now. Forward march, subjects.
I think the problem is that gabs values are not inline with internet society in anyway.
The reason that matters is that the market segment it's going to capture is by and large, conservative men over 35. Guess who doesn't social media?
While there are some that will use gab from that demographic, there are very few. What that leaves is women and young men. Guess who (for the most part) will trade their rights for some attention? Yeah...
Plus human nature tends to gravitate the masses towards one or two sources of whatever it is that amuses them or makes something they do easier. There are far too many social media outlets as it is and to get anyone to use them means they have a gimmick. Now that twitter is allowing free speech that takes the gimmick away from many of the new replacements. This is why Trump will stay on TS because he is ~their~ gimmick. Though I think that in the end when the 2024 campaign ramps up he will come back as it would be stupid to not use it.
although gab has made some very good progress. it created in decentralized chat application with encryption. they have their own version of PayPal for if the banks the platform people. they're working on a video provider. they really are making the most headway with the alternative economy
finally people getting it that you can't just make your own social media and expect it to take off. you can't always just make your own version of companies that are run by leftists..
Three things that I trust more than politicians:
1- Gas station sushi sold by an Indian clerk that hasn't cleaned the restroom in weeks.
2- Banks that sell you paper certificates of owning gold and silver while they hold custody.
3- The ads that say that in a 3 mile radius hot, horny milfs are waiting for me.
He's rich. He says free speech is worth something to him. Twitter is trending in the right direction.
I'd like to see him publish a bit of the Twitter Papers soon.
The censoring of the DNC and Podesta Wikileaks is a big deal.
He could start by following up on the Michael Brown "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" farce in Ferguson in 2015 .
I bet a bunch of accounts got deleted for posting the "Burn This Bitch Down" video the night the grand jury evidence showing Brown attacked the cop finally came out.
There will be big value if Twitter reveals the details behind the heinous censorship.
He could start by following up on the Michael Brown "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" farce in Ferguson in 2015 .
He’s actually commented directly on this issue. He said that Obama’s DOJ cleared the cop of all wrongdoing, and that it was a proven hoax, yet it’s still one of the main drivers of the division in society today because the media perpetuates the bullshit.
He may not be perfect, and I’m cautiously optimistic, but this timeline sure has gotten a lot more fun the past few weeks with Elon on the offensive.
The only other way to get such a massively used tool out of the hands of evil democrats was to blow it up. We already established that you and I are too pussy to do it. I don't see you doing anything else.
He said making money isn't his motivation. Here's part of his statement:
"In the relentless pursuit of clicks, much of traditional media has fueled and catered to those polarized extremes, as they believe that is what brings in the money, but, in doing so, the opportunity for dialogue is lost. That is why I bought Twitter. I didn’t do it because it would be easy. I didn’t do it to help make more money. I did try to help humanity, whom I love. And I do so with humility, recognizing that failure in pursuing this goal, despite our best efforts, is a very real possibility."
He will double his money because he is a born winner and a savvy businessman just like Trump. The Art of the Deal is one of Elon's favorite books so he has learned a lot from Trump. They are both high IQ stable geniuses
So if people arent actually in the process of officially running for office, he might some day u never know, that means you dont have to trust them? wat da. If ur involved with people you kinda have to trust them. like if some guy wants to implant a neuro usb device to connect ur brain to the internet u might want to look into his intentions.
Thing is if we all collectively accept the narrative we wont be able to choose anything they are already making ice illegal at best they will give a choice but just like ICE u just wont have one really
He kinda sounds like a whiny bitch. "Don't worry bros, I drove all the way to Cupertino and got on my knees. All's good bros." Tim if a fag, and he still outmanned musk. Not a good look.
You probably have an iPhone currently, which makes me laugh.
All these folks bitching about Twitter and apple, don't use them.
If you still buy apple, you're the enemy. If you still take your kids to Disney movies, it buy Disney Xmas gifts, you're part of the problem. I realize most of you are like "DUUUR, I buy Apple products and watch Disney movies".
I'd like to thank you for causing the downfall of the west over the last 70 years. Thank you
The decline of western civilisation... I will have to dig up my source on the metrics and data that show the decline roughly began in 1963 I believe it rings true.
That was the year the bible was basically banned in schools.
I don’t tend to agree but thank you for your input. I put it as the SCOTUS decision - Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963). The nation turned its back on God after he gave us everything. I see this as the turning point.
Um no. I will cop to owning one iMac. But no pads or phones or other bullshit. Fuck Apple. It's just a simple rule of business. Weak man drives to the strong man. The video says it all.
They’re superior computers and OS. And phone OS. And also fuck Bill Gates and google even more. That said I need a new phone and am looking elsewhere. I will miss the seamless device integration though and prob keep my iPhone as an iPod.
It’s pretty awesome just having a screen, a wireless keyboard, and a wireless mouse. No cables except for the the wall plug. It’s my garage computer in my lab.
Use whatever tool that works. I still have two 2012 MacBook Airs in regular service too. A bit slow but totally passable.
In all seriousness Googgle and Apple are both commie trash but iMacs are gay as fuck. Only people i know who use apple products in general are liberals and/or faggots.
When coke sends internal emails saying be less white, when you buy coke, you're saying you're on board with the anti white agenda. How is that not apparent to you? Are you functionally retarded?
It's the same with Nike or Adidas or any other big name apparel brands. You can't be against slavery, and own a pair of Nikes, they are made from Uyghur slaves.
These people who refuse to give up their toys are why we keep losing ground. It's easy not to own Apple products. I own zero and have NEVER owned one. It's easy not to buy Coke products, or Gillette products, or Goodyear products, or Oreos, or subscribe to Disney+ or Netflix or Hulu. But there's too many people on our side that find it's easier to explain away why they keep giving their hard earned money to those companies (among the many others) than to give them up.
I try to tell people these companies hate them, but they don't see it yet. I didn't see it until pretty recently, around halfway through Trump's term. But once you see it, my God, how did I ever not know?
Look at what the NFL started as, and what it is today. Long gone are the days of a player making a play, and running back to the huddle. Barry Sanders entire career is a highlight reel, yet I don't recall him ever dancing or pointing to his name or chest. Hand the ball to the ref and let's get on with the game.
I was born in 90, but did the NFL of the 70s and 80s take 3.5 hours to play a game? Advertising is another thing I can't stand about the modern world. Listening to rural Kansas radio growing up, I swear they actually played more music than commercials. Now you get one song and then 28 covid vaccine commercials. It's gay.
If people didn't buy said retailers apple products that retailer wouldn't keep ordering more from apple.. or do you think apple actually manufactures a set amount irregardless on if they sell or not? Ironically yours is one of the most economically illiterate comments I've seen on here.
Tim knew that it would be a bad move. Elon would have immediately started work on a competing smart phone with his Tesla engineers. Google and Apple would lose their grip on the Internet.
Absolutely HAS to at this point. The closer he is to just releasing it, the less power Apple will have to threaten, which they've already shown they want and will try to do again.
I like Elon, but it only goes so far. Good for him for what he's done with Twitter. His electric cars can go fuck themselves in the ass. His rockets are cool, but I don't give a shit about space when earth is going to hell in a hand basket. He can make his own phones, but fuck if I trust anyone anymore with that kind of stuff.
The subsidies helped, but Tesla still would have failed if it wasn’t a good brand and people didn’t want to buy their cars.
He was getting around $4K subsidy per Model S they sold at an average of $108K. People still had to pony up for the car for him to get the kickback. That would be a pretty hard sell if they sucked.
Watch the interviews with Musk, it was 100s of millions that kept him afloat in Government Contracts. He said it himself and he was weeks from bankruptcy.
the bailout loan saved Tesla back in 2007/2008, but unlike the others, they paid it back early with interest.
the government contract stuff related to NASA and SpaceX for the commercial cargo contract, and yes, without that they would not have survived, that said, the others that bid on it also effectively went bust when they did not win a contract either - it’s all a bit chicken and egg.
plain subsidies for Tesla were all about EV tax credits, these were open to anybody, and they did not go to Tesla, they were a tax credit for the purchaser, not Tesla.
then we get to Green credits, available to all EV makers, but only Tesla made them, and Ford/GM/etc had to buy them to avoid paying tax, so they paid Tesla for theirs - stupid? yup, but Tesla never asked or lobbied for these schemes, and would have survived without them, albeit with slower growth.
the SpaceX contract was awarded after they successfully put a payload into orbit (the first private company to do such).
Tesla never failed, yes, it may have done without the 2007/2008 auto bailout, but the same could be said for bother Ford and GM, and Tesla paid their loan back early with interest.
I agree with you. Just pointing out that even if someone’s distorted opinion is that even if they failed, the government does not randomly give out money to people. There are millions of failed businesses that the government doesn’t do jackshit about to help
I disagree. If it wasn't him, it would be somebody else. You can't hold a free people back from innovation.
The earliest cars used to be electric cars. I think they were more like go-carts, but still, they were battery powered. So, we had the knowhow, just not the technology.
without the internet connection, you don't get to use google maps, internet radio, etc etc..
had no effect on driving the car though, AP still works (although drive to map is going to be a problem).
you also loose mobile app control of your car, so stuff like turning the AC on remotely or starting/stopping charging etc all go away.
I guess if you could be arsed, you could disable/remove it’s sim then force it to use WIFI to access the internet, then use a firewall on your (mobile) wifi to limit what it can and cannot talk to.
(lot of people here th Model 3/Y's run on wifi as it’s cheaper than paying the sim subscription to Tesla, (Mifi with a cheap data only sim, job done).
Yes, having a tablet/phone based firewall etc would be do-able, but I can't imagine it’s worth the PITA unless Tesla start to do stupid stuff.
Are you sure oil isn't renewable? Scientists aren't sure. The sycophantic climate change nutjobs think it is limited, but that's not what is being observed. It's one of those things that has been pushed on us our entire life... but previously consumed wells end up being refilled and recharged.
I'm not saying oil is or is not renewable... I'm saying to question the accepted narrative that oil is not renewable.
There is a lot to read on this. There is a lot of "oil is not renewable" out there where this is made as a claim, or assumed true. But, conventional logic cannot prove that oil is not renewable because you cannot prove the negative of something. What can be done is proving that oil is renewable. It has not been proven yet, but scientists are close to actually making crude oil. Evidence, however, shows that wells get replenished which indicates that maybe oil is renewable. There is evidence that oil is renewable.
We cannot assume oil is not renewable, nor assume that it is. But for now, as oil consumers, we will continue to consume the oil provided by the Earth, and will continue to consume oil that gets replenished in some of these oil fields.
It's not the tech that is bad, per se. It's the control of your own life that it takes away, or weans away from people as they become "used to" all the bells and whistles. They start to all behave like drug addicts. That makes people weak and easier to control. That makes society turn to shit. That is where we are at now.
My sister has one and I learned that Tesla has an insurance program now... I rode with her last week and she made sure my seatbelt was on before putting it in Drive
I was like wtf? Apparently she gets penalized on her insurance if someone isn't buckled in when in Drive
it's a 4 wheels computer, they can (if they wanted to) see everything.
they actively use the cars camera's to record driving clips to send to their self-driving SW team for analysis, this is how they have built up such a vast database of public roads and associated obsticals along with how human drivers 'manage' these situations, they then use this to 'teach' the AI to drive.
The seatbelt thing should only be for the Tesla insurance. They clearly state that they use the safety score to determine the rate they charge. It should not be an issue if you go with another insurance provider.
It’s definitely invasive, but having a real-time risk assessment determining your rate is actually kinda interesting. It sounds like a system that actually balances the risk in the insurance pool more equitably, since it’s all currently based on zip codes and demographic averages with the others.
If you’re a young guy, but a safe driver, you’re still gonna get screwed on your insurance no matter what, with traditional insurance, because most are higher risk.
That’s the problem, all these cool innovations erode our privacy just a bit more all the time, for the sake of cost or convenience.
I don't give a shit about space when earth is going to hell in a hand basket.
I do. America was founded on the idea of Europe going to hell in a hand basket. If we get into space we'll be nearly impossible to control and it will be the most prosperous time for us in our entire history, ushering in a completely new age of freedom. Forget the "New World", it will be the "New Worlds".
Space should be the goal. History has shown that there is a correlation between population density and a loss of freedom in general. The greatest freedom is having almost no one around to stop you from doing anything. We've had the power to do this for many decades, there's a reason we don't do it. It's because our owners don't want us leaving our cattle farm, they want to keep milking us forever.
Nah, space gives us a chance to start over. It’s infinite. We have infinite planets to pick from, if we wanted to start a true conservative world somewhere and be rid of leftism forever we could terraform one to our liking
We need to learn to learn to leave this planet ASAP. The quicker we can get rid of Gia and appreciate a higher power in their infinite we'll be better.
So, Apple is terrified at the prospect of Elon creating a smartphone, and this was their move to protect their market share. Apple knows Elon's phone would be a real threat. Elon should start work on the phone immediately, if he has not already done so.
Funny thing is for someone like Musk it's the idea that motivates. Once you cause a situation where he perceives a problem or market nitch and he has a brain child idea to address or fix the need than that is all it takes. It may not be fast tracked if apple is playing ball, but nothing apple does will stop him from merging two to three or more existing ideas companies and products together to venture into the phone market.
Crush him? C'mon. One, he has no access to chipsets that can outperform Apple's silicon. Snapdragon is expensive - and then he'd have to develop an OS, which could be a billion dollar enterprise.
If I were more conspiracy minded, I would think Musk is talking selling the company to Apple.
But it's probably just tighter integration and ideas for whatever Musk has planned being supported by Apple.
I know there's going to be ongoing wild speculation, but Musk, starting from zero, crushing Apple? C'mon. Pull the other one, it has bells on it.
these use ARM designed cores, same as the Snapdragons, usually a version behind on the manufacturing scale, they are not as cutting edge as the latest snapdragon's, but the difference is just bragging rights.
Mine also has a 4480 mAh Battery so can actually run for 2-3 days unlike some $1K+ iShite.
actually, having just looked, you can buy a new A85 8 core 8/128GB phone with 50MP camera, 6.5" screen, NFC, dual sim, expandable memory (14/1TB) etc etc for just under $110 US, runs Android 12.
There are a bunch of linux-based smartphones that could be developed and branded. With Musk's connections and wealth he could build his own fabrication plants.
At some point we're probably going to have to do that anyway. These plants are way too damned expensive and the first person to miniaturize them so everyone can print their own chips is going to be hailed as a hero.
Exactly this. Muskbros have not a single fucking clue. Musk drove to Tim, not the other way around. He didn't even invite him inside the bldg. "Look at my lily pond Elon. Now shoo."
What accounts? I just looked, all of the Apple accounts are on Twitter, and being used, as normal - like @AppleTV, @AppleMusic, etc. The "main" Apple account is only used for special events, and wipes tweets after, it's well documented. Which accounts are you referring to?
"We never planned on removing Twitter from the App Store..." but then thinks "we only planned on hiding it so nobody can find it, making sure it crashes on our systems, get rid of your ability to generate ad revenue, and will randomly block API calls to make it an app that appears to have major issues so nobody will use it."
I'm assuming he's a globalist plant, but I'm also giving him the benefit of the doubt because so far nothing besides his refusal to allow Alex Jones back on Twitter has corroborated that
Tim being a fag is a very important detail. Fags are the most deeply committed to the globohomo hegemony over our culture. They’re the least interested in debating it and therefore the least interested in free speech. Tim would definitely pull twitter off the App Store if he thought he could get away with it. Tim is calculating how to work around the shareholders objections. Get ready for some false flag attacks on fags where they use twitter to coordinate.
I strongly sense Elon is using coded language here.
It's almost as if he's saying, "I just checkmated Tim Cook's faggy ass and he sheepishly gave in to my demands. I'm saying nice things about Tim in this tweet, but the fact is I own him now. He's my little bitch boy and will do what I say, or face my unholy wraith of lawyers and lawsuits which he knows he will lose."
HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED TIM A FAG AND HUNG UP.
Tim would only be turned on and call back for a Tesla ride.
kek
I miss Steve Jobs - at least he was real to people about what he believed.
Steve Jobs wouldn't have gotten rid of the headphone jack.
Yes he absolutely would have. He was the reason apple sells all this proprietary bullshit
Do you actually miss him? Who is he to you?
He was an utter cunt to other people - I'm glad he died.
he also died of aids
It was cancer he refused treatment for years thinking a juice fast would cure him.
Maybe riding Elon's big, African Tesla coil.
Free Tesla rides to space for commies
They'd probably ask to go to the sun at night when it is safe to go...
(Apologies for hijacking a blonde joke!)
Let them rule on Mars.
Or Australia 2.0 if you prefer
LOL - he could have, and I doubt that Apple would remove Twitter even after that.
The reason why is simple: Android. Apple has to compete with it, and unless Goog drops Twitter from its Play Store, Apple damned sure won't.
(and if they both remove it, that means collusion, which is a massive SEC no-no, something they'd get nailed for eventually, but nailed nonetheless.)
They didn't nail them for the removal of Gab.
No body gives a shit about gab. That's why.
That's fucked up because gab has been de-banked, discriminated against. The "hate crime" laws have been massaged in real good now. Forward march, subjects.
I think the problem is that gabs values are not inline with internet society in anyway.
The reason that matters is that the market segment it's going to capture is by and large, conservative men over 35. Guess who doesn't social media?
While there are some that will use gab from that demographic, there are very few. What that leaves is women and young men. Guess who (for the most part) will trade their rights for some attention? Yeah...
Gabs in a tough time slot friend.
Plus human nature tends to gravitate the masses towards one or two sources of whatever it is that amuses them or makes something they do easier. There are far too many social media outlets as it is and to get anyone to use them means they have a gimmick. Now that twitter is allowing free speech that takes the gimmick away from many of the new replacements. This is why Trump will stay on TS because he is ~their~ gimmick. Though I think that in the end when the 2024 campaign ramps up he will come back as it would be stupid to not use it.
although gab has made some very good progress. it created in decentralized chat application with encryption. they have their own version of PayPal for if the banks the platform people. they're working on a video provider. they really are making the most headway with the alternative economy
nice analysis
Parler
Nobody gives a shit about parler.
At the time it was pretty big. Thing is you know damn well they would deplatform Twitter and there would be no consequences
The deplatformed the president of the United States. They can justify anything they have a heart to justify.
...with conservatives. Twitter drives the news cycle.
yeah there would
some from the developers of all of the other twitter apps
a lot from the "journalists" who use it to do their work for them
it would drive a lot of people to Android
Nobody gives a shit about Truth either, outside of our little echo chamber
Most.in our echo chamber don't. I set up an account and have never even been there. Not even sure my username.
If you want total freedom of speech, Gab is the only place to find it.
no one cares about that backwater echo chamber
and Torba is no Elon Musk
finally people getting it that you can't just make your own social media and expect it to take off. you can't always just make your own version of companies that are run by leftists..
that's no true..
GAB has a solid place now, it will never be Twatter, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing..
Gab appears to have no real filters, and people seem to be more considered and genuine on GAB, less petulant posts etc.
Gab is a niche site with a certain dedicated fan base of twitter refugees
It is not growing
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Neither Rumble.
Lol, the SEC wouldn’t do anything….they’re all on the same team
I hope they do so we get a Tesla phone.
he should make a Tesla phone based on Android with Twitter pre-installed.
kill Apple once and for all
Android is owned by Google now. TeslOS.
you don't think all of FAGAT and his ISP dropping Alex Jones simultaneously indicates collusion?
FAGAT-T
also there are many twitter apps
removing all of them would piss off a lot of developers
There's a difference between being a fag and being gay. Tim Apple is both.
Came looking for the Tim Apple references 🤣
He should have sent a signal to deactivate Tim's Tesla on the freeway
No, he should just remotely shut down any tesla connected to Tim Cook under the guise that Tim cooks actions violate the TOS.
I trust Elon as much as I trust politicians.
I trust politicians as much as a fart after drinking all day and eating Taco Bell for dinner.
...with ghost pepper sauce poured all over it.
Washed down with Thrift brand drain cleaner.
Three things that I trust more than politicians: 1- Gas station sushi sold by an Indian clerk that hasn't cleaned the restroom in weeks. 2- Banks that sell you paper certificates of owning gold and silver while they hold custody. 3- The ads that say that in a 3 mile radius hot, horny milfs are waiting for me.
Mmmm yum
You need to have your very own warning Flag. Trust is earned.
Holy fuck. You're brave if you trust that lmao
same. even though the enchirrito is back LOL.
He's earning a lot of trust with these actions.
He seems intent to get his money's worth.
never trust people who can be trusted
Trust.
But verify.
Don't worry, he'll be tweeted out the second he does something against the gauge of millions. He almost has all the knowledge of the universe.
He'll be lucky to get 8 billion of his 44 back out of this shitshow. Whatta dumb fucking purchase that was. Twitter is shit.
He's rich. He says free speech is worth something to him. Twitter is trending in the right direction.
I'd like to see him publish a bit of the Twitter Papers soon.
The censoring of the DNC and Podesta Wikileaks is a big deal.
He could start by following up on the Michael Brown "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" farce in Ferguson in 2015 .
I bet a bunch of accounts got deleted for posting the "Burn This Bitch Down" video the night the grand jury evidence showing Brown attacked the cop finally came out.
There will be big value if Twitter reveals the details behind the heinous censorship.
He’s actually commented directly on this issue. He said that Obama’s DOJ cleared the cop of all wrongdoing, and that it was a proven hoax, yet it’s still one of the main drivers of the division in society today because the media perpetuates the bullshit.
He may not be perfect, and I’m cautiously optimistic, but this timeline sure has gotten a lot more fun the past few weeks with Elon on the offensive.
The only other way to get such a massively used tool out of the hands of evil democrats was to blow it up. We already established that you and I are too pussy to do it. I don't see you doing anything else.
He said making money isn't his motivation. Here's part of his statement:
"In the relentless pursuit of clicks, much of traditional media has fueled and catered to those polarized extremes, as they believe that is what brings in the money, but, in doing so, the opportunity for dialogue is lost. That is why I bought Twitter. I didn’t do it because it would be easy. I didn’t do it to help make more money. I did try to help humanity, whom I love. And I do so with humility, recognizing that failure in pursuing this goal, despite our best efforts, is a very real possibility."
He will double his money because he is a born winner and a savvy businessman just like Trump. The Art of the Deal is one of Elon's favorite books so he has learned a lot from Trump. They are both high IQ stable geniuses
Yes, no question, no question at all that he massively overpaid.
I do think Elon is being authentic.
The question is, can Elon keep Twitter relevant while ejecting Leftards, and at the same time attracting Conservatives?
For the past five years, there have been a number of Conservative alternatives popping up.
Can Elon succeed in drawing those users back to Twitter?
Because if not, then all this opening up would have been for naught from a business point of view.
what is there to trust?
he is not running for office
So if people arent actually in the process of officially running for office, he might some day u never know, that means you dont have to trust them? wat da. If ur involved with people you kinda have to trust them. like if some guy wants to implant a neuro usb device to connect ur brain to the internet u might want to look into his intentions.
his actions and policies do not affect you unless you choose to let them
you are not gambling anything if you choose to use twitter
it is not the same with politicians
Thing is if we all collectively accept the narrative we wont be able to choose anything they are already making ice illegal at best they will give a choice but just like ICE u just wont have one really
Elon is totally being a smart ass in this tweet.
He kinda sounds like a whiny bitch. "Don't worry bros, I drove all the way to Cupertino and got on my knees. All's good bros." Tim if a fag, and he still outmanned musk. Not a good look.
I don't see it that way at all. Musk is a very weird person. Dudes posting green frogs. AOC and the likes believe green frogs are Nazis
You probably have an iPhone currently, which makes me laugh.
All these folks bitching about Twitter and apple, don't use them.
If you still buy apple, you're the enemy. If you still take your kids to Disney movies, it buy Disney Xmas gifts, you're part of the problem. I realize most of you are like "DUUUR, I buy Apple products and watch Disney movies".
I'd like to thank you for causing the downfall of the west over the last 70 years. Thank you
The decline of western civilisation... I will have to dig up my source on the metrics and data that show the decline roughly began in 1963 I believe it rings true.
That was the year the bible was basically banned in schools.
It wasn’t movies or iPads.
The birth control pill was cleared by the FDA in 1960. Look no further for your answer to the reason behind the fall of western civilization.
I don’t tend to agree but thank you for your input. I put it as the SCOTUS decision - Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963). The nation turned its back on God after he gave us everything. I see this as the turning point.
We are in complete agreement on this.
Um no. I will cop to owning one iMac. But no pads or phones or other bullshit. Fuck Apple. It's just a simple rule of business. Weak man drives to the strong man. The video says it all.
Might want to get that Musk Derangement Syndrome checked out
They’re superior computers and OS. And phone OS. And also fuck Bill Gates and google even more. That said I need a new phone and am looking elsewhere. I will miss the seamless device integration though and prob keep my iPhone as an iPod.
That begs the question as to what phone you use? Android? The alternatives to Apple are far far worse.
Only girls or queers owned imacs dude.
You should have said you owned a iPod.
My iMac kicks ass.
It’s pretty awesome just having a screen, a wireless keyboard, and a wireless mouse. No cables except for the the wall plug. It’s my garage computer in my lab.
Use whatever tool that works. I still have two 2012 MacBook Airs in regular service too. A bit slow but totally passable.
But the fuckin commies dude
In all seriousness Googgle and Apple are both commie trash but iMacs are gay as fuck. Only people i know who use apple products in general are liberals and/or faggots.
fair point
your momma knows I am not queer
I have an iMac and an iPad
how am I the enemy?
the last time I looked out the window, we were a capitalist country
Because you are literally funding our demise.
When coke sends internal emails saying be less white, when you buy coke, you're saying you're on board with the anti white agenda. How is that not apparent to you? Are you functionally retarded?
It's the same with Nike or Adidas or any other big name apparel brands. You can't be against slavery, and own a pair of Nikes, they are made from Uyghur slaves.
These people who refuse to give up their toys are why we keep losing ground. It's easy not to own Apple products. I own zero and have NEVER owned one. It's easy not to buy Coke products, or Gillette products, or Goodyear products, or Oreos, or subscribe to Disney+ or Netflix or Hulu. But there's too many people on our side that find it's easier to explain away why they keep giving their hard earned money to those companies (among the many others) than to give them up.
I try to tell people these companies hate them, but they don't see it yet. I didn't see it until pretty recently, around halfway through Trump's term. But once you see it, my God, how did I ever not know?
Look at what the NFL started as, and what it is today. Long gone are the days of a player making a play, and running back to the huddle. Barry Sanders entire career is a highlight reel, yet I don't recall him ever dancing or pointing to his name or chest. Hand the ball to the ref and let's get on with the game.
I was born in 90, but did the NFL of the 70s and 80s take 3.5 hours to play a game? Advertising is another thing I can't stand about the modern world. Listening to rural Kansas radio growing up, I swear they actually played more music than commercials. Now you get one song and then 28 covid vaccine commercials. It's gay.
Same idiots who have been brainwashed to accept faggotry and say: "nOt aLl gAyS aRe FagGoTs~"
i was talking about Apple
my money went to a retailer who had already paid Apple
are you economically retarded?
The retailers wouldn't stock them if people stopped buying their overpriced crap.
If people didn't buy said retailers apple products that retailer wouldn't keep ordering more from apple.. or do you think apple actually manufactures a set amount irregardless on if they sell or not? Ironically yours is one of the most economically illiterate comments I've seen on here.
since he took over, twitter has been alive with libtarded rumors of its impending demise
he just took care of one of them
Treat them like rentals. Use them until their usefulness runs out, then chuck em
Tim knew that it would be a bad move. Elon would have immediately started work on a competing smart phone with his Tesla engineers. Google and Apple would lose their grip on the Internet.
Do it anyways.
Slam your dick on the table Papa Elon!
Absolutely HAS to at this point. The closer he is to just releasing it, the less power Apple will have to threaten, which they've already shown they want and will try to do again.
I would buy a Tesla phone and throw my Sammy out the window.
I would buy the Tesla phone in a heartbeat. Needs to happen.
sigh, a Telsa drone...
Im actually in the first black human trials for the second generation of neurolink u peasants wont even get that shit for the next decade
Tesla biggest issue is that they ran a car company like a tech company. A phone would be much more in their wheel house.
He should still do. Just to fuck with them
Would have sued the pants off Apple for defaming Twitter and harming the business.
I like Elon, but it only goes so far. Good for him for what he's done with Twitter. His electric cars can go fuck themselves in the ass. His rockets are cool, but I don't give a shit about space when earth is going to hell in a hand basket. He can make his own phones, but fuck if I trust anyone anymore with that kind of stuff.
His electric cars are pretty cool too, I won't lie. I don't have one, I don't want one. But I love the innovation.
What sux about it is the "climate change" bullshit associated with it.
If he wasn't successful with Tesla none of this electric car bullshit would be a thing
The government saved Tesla and turned him into the richest man on Earth.
He admits it and simply took advantage of it to further his goal of Mars being a colony.
He could be better more based etc but he could also be a whole lot worse as well.
He is still a retarded Dem at heart.
The subsidies helped, but Tesla still would have failed if it wasn’t a good brand and people didn’t want to buy their cars.
He was getting around $4K subsidy per Model S they sold at an average of $108K. People still had to pony up for the car for him to get the kickback. That would be a pretty hard sell if they sucked.
Watch the interviews with Musk, it was 100s of millions that kept him afloat in Government Contracts. He said it himself and he was weeks from bankruptcy.
yes and no,
the bailout loan saved Tesla back in 2007/2008, but unlike the others, they paid it back early with interest.
the government contract stuff related to NASA and SpaceX for the commercial cargo contract, and yes, without that they would not have survived, that said, the others that bid on it also effectively went bust when they did not win a contract either - it’s all a bit chicken and egg.
plain subsidies for Tesla were all about EV tax credits, these were open to anybody, and they did not go to Tesla, they were a tax credit for the purchaser, not Tesla.
then we get to Green credits, available to all EV makers, but only Tesla made them, and Ford/GM/etc had to buy them to avoid paying tax, so they paid Tesla for theirs - stupid? yup, but Tesla never asked or lobbied for these schemes, and would have survived without them, albeit with slower growth.
They are so minimalistic, smooth and quiet. Feel gay driving them
Ok let’s you start a company, fail and have the government save your company. It’s super easy to get money from the government right?
He got multiple massive contracts and has talked about it multiple times, he is not hiding it nor is it his fault.
Simply pointing out the government kept him afloat or he would have gone bust.
The government did not keep him afloat. The government subsidies was one of many factors contributing to Tesla’s success.
in what way did Tesla or SpaceX fail?
the SpaceX contract was awarded after they successfully put a payload into orbit (the first private company to do such).
Tesla never failed, yes, it may have done without the 2007/2008 auto bailout, but the same could be said for bother Ford and GM, and Tesla paid their loan back early with interest.
I agree with you. Just pointing out that even if someone’s distorted opinion is that even if they failed, the government does not randomly give out money to people. There are millions of failed businesses that the government doesn’t do jackshit about to help
Yeah Republican businessmen wouldn't have taken government money...
Bullshit!
Just like all the other car companies. Except he paid back his gibmes
It would have happened eventually. All it did was accelerate it.
We shouldn't stop innovation just because our government may force it on us. We should stop our government instead.
I disagree. If it wasn't him, it would be somebody else. You can't hold a free people back from innovation.
The earliest cars used to be electric cars. I think they were more like go-carts, but still, they were battery powered. So, we had the knowhow, just not the technology.
you can, just remove the sim.
define function the same?
without the internet connection, you don't get to use google maps, internet radio, etc etc..
had no effect on driving the car though, AP still works (although drive to map is going to be a problem).
you also loose mobile app control of your car, so stuff like turning the AC on remotely or starting/stopping charging etc all go away.
I guess if you could be arsed, you could disable/remove it’s sim then force it to use WIFI to access the internet, then use a firewall on your (mobile) wifi to limit what it can and cannot talk to.
(lot of people here th Model 3/Y's run on wifi as it’s cheaper than paying the sim subscription to Tesla, (Mifi with a cheap data only sim, job done).
Yes, having a tablet/phone based firewall etc would be do-able, but I can't imagine it’s worth the PITA unless Tesla start to do stupid stuff.
well, just pull the cellular sim, job done.
This ^^^^
and I have one!
He did it because oil isn't a renewable resource, not because he's that scared about climate change.
Are you sure oil isn't renewable? Scientists aren't sure. The sycophantic climate change nutjobs think it is limited, but that's not what is being observed. It's one of those things that has been pushed on us our entire life... but previously consumed wells end up being refilled and recharged.
I'm not saying oil is or is not renewable... I'm saying to question the accepted narrative that oil is not renewable.
There is a lot to read on this. There is a lot of "oil is not renewable" out there where this is made as a claim, or assumed true. But, conventional logic cannot prove that oil is not renewable because you cannot prove the negative of something. What can be done is proving that oil is renewable. It has not been proven yet, but scientists are close to actually making crude oil. Evidence, however, shows that wells get replenished which indicates that maybe oil is renewable. There is evidence that oil is renewable.
We cannot assume oil is not renewable, nor assume that it is. But for now, as oil consumers, we will continue to consume the oil provided by the Earth, and will continue to consume oil that gets replenished in some of these oil fields.
Yeah but the hive mind here (mostly the boomers who are just anti-technology anyway) has decreed that EVs are forbidden.
It's not the tech that is bad, per se. It's the control of your own life that it takes away, or weans away from people as they become "used to" all the bells and whistles. They start to all behave like drug addicts. That makes people weak and easier to control. That makes society turn to shit. That is where we are at now.
I was planning on buying a Model 3 next month
My sister has one and I learned that Tesla has an insurance program now... I rode with her last week and she made sure my seatbelt was on before putting it in Drive
I was like wtf? Apparently she gets penalized on her insurance if someone isn't buckled in when in Drive
I'm no longer buying a Tesla
don't by their insurance then?
more generally, avoid any insurance that relies on telematics...
Oh I know... I just thought it was wild Tesla has the ability to see when your seatbelt is on
it's a 4 wheels computer, they can (if they wanted to) see everything.
they actively use the cars camera's to record driving clips to send to their self-driving SW team for analysis, this is how they have built up such a vast database of public roads and associated obsticals along with how human drivers 'manage' these situations, they then use this to 'teach' the AI to drive.
Wait, what? These new car "innovations" are Orwellian as fuck.
All by design.
The seatbelt thing should only be for the Tesla insurance. They clearly state that they use the safety score to determine the rate they charge. It should not be an issue if you go with another insurance provider.
Yeah, I perfectly understand that
Just felt weird
It’s definitely invasive, but having a real-time risk assessment determining your rate is actually kinda interesting. It sounds like a system that actually balances the risk in the insurance pool more equitably, since it’s all currently based on zip codes and demographic averages with the others.
If you’re a young guy, but a safe driver, you’re still gonna get screwed on your insurance no matter what, with traditional insurance, because most are higher risk.
That’s the problem, all these cool innovations erode our privacy just a bit more all the time, for the sake of cost or convenience.
All the new cars will have mandated cameras and shutdown anyways. Ev drivetrain is irrelevant
I do. America was founded on the idea of Europe going to hell in a hand basket. If we get into space we'll be nearly impossible to control and it will be the most prosperous time for us in our entire history, ushering in a completely new age of freedom. Forget the "New World", it will be the "New Worlds".
Space should be the goal. History has shown that there is a correlation between population density and a loss of freedom in general. The greatest freedom is having almost no one around to stop you from doing anything. We've had the power to do this for many decades, there's a reason we don't do it. It's because our owners don't want us leaving our cattle farm, they want to keep milking us forever.
wait until the bankers apply their banking to space as well.
Great take, agree on all counts
Nah, space gives us a chance to start over. It’s infinite. We have infinite planets to pick from, if we wanted to start a true conservative world somewhere and be rid of leftism forever we could terraform one to our liking
We need to learn to learn to leave this planet ASAP. The quicker we can get rid of Gia and appreciate a higher power in their infinite we'll be better.
So, Apple is terrified at the prospect of Elon creating a smartphone, and this was their move to protect their market share. Apple knows Elon's phone would be a real threat. Elon should start work on the phone immediately, if he has not already done so.
Funny thing is for someone like Musk it's the idea that motivates. Once you cause a situation where he perceives a problem or market nitch and he has a brain child idea to address or fix the need than that is all it takes. It may not be fast tracked if apple is playing ball, but nothing apple does will stop him from merging two to three or more existing ideas companies and products together to venture into the phone market.
Is that Tim Apple?
The one and only
he was talking to Elon Tesla?
BAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EAT IT TIM APPLE
You should assume everything a leftist tells you is a lie, until proven otherwise. Such is the present state of the world.
would be behind Tim yelling at Musk "HIT ME HARDER DADDY!".
Musk probably fucked his wife and called it day.
Crush him? C'mon. One, he has no access to chipsets that can outperform Apple's silicon. Snapdragon is expensive - and then he'd have to develop an OS, which could be a billion dollar enterprise.
If I were more conspiracy minded, I would think Musk is talking selling the company to Apple.
But it's probably just tighter integration and ideas for whatever Musk has planned being supported by Apple.
I know there's going to be ongoing wild speculation, but Musk, starting from zero, crushing Apple? C'mon. Pull the other one, it has bells on it.
there are plenty of alternatives...
My current phone uses an 8 core Helio P90
these use ARM designed cores, same as the Snapdragons, usually a version behind on the manufacturing scale, they are not as cutting edge as the latest snapdragon's, but the difference is just bragging rights.
Mine also has a 4480 mAh Battery so can actually run for 2-3 days unlike some $1K+ iShite.
actually, having just looked, you can buy a new A85 8 core 8/128GB phone with 50MP camera, 6.5" screen, NFC, dual sim, expandable memory (14/1TB) etc etc for just under $110 US, runs Android 12.
There are a bunch of linux-based smartphones that could be developed and branded. With Musk's connections and wealth he could build his own fabrication plants. At some point we're probably going to have to do that anyway. These plants are way too damned expensive and the first person to miniaturize them so everyone can print their own chips is going to be hailed as a hero.
Exactly this. Muskbros have not a single fucking clue. Musk drove to Tim, not the other way around. He didn't even invite him inside the bldg. "Look at my lily pond Elon. Now shoo."
He got a scary email saying to stop making in app purchases without giving the 30% app store kick back.
Started spasing out that apple was going to take twitter down because he is saving free speech.
Then Tim told him what the fuck are you talking about you weirdo.
Now mushbros ares are eating it up
No way it's going to cost a billion dollars to make an OS. Tesla already are in the OS business I'm sure they could modify it for phones.
Pretty dope that he just went within 24 hours to meet the CEO of Apple to straighten things out.
It's so nice when the overlords settle their differences.... Everyone knows winter isn't cannonfodder season for the serfs.
Kek.
Here's how that conversation went: "Tim, you do realize that I have all of the DMs for every single one of your executives, right?"
Why is he even talking to Tim Cock? He should talk to the people who actually own it. But I guess he didn't feel like flying to China?
Why did Tim Apple Delete all Apple affiliated twitter accounts then?
What accounts? I just looked, all of the Apple accounts are on Twitter, and being used, as normal - like @AppleTV, @AppleMusic, etc. The "main" Apple account is only used for special events, and wipes tweets after, it's well documented. Which accounts are you referring to?
My apologies, didn’t do my due diligence it was an apple Exec in charge of the APP store.
"We never planned on removing Twitter from the App Store..." but then thinks "we only planned on hiding it so nobody can find it, making sure it crashes on our systems, get rid of your ability to generate ad revenue, and will randomly block API calls to make it an app that appears to have major issues so nobody will use it."
"lol I fed him a bunch of bullshit because I know we're not quite ready yet, Klaus"
No lie, I had a dream about this during a nap today.
I'm going to take this as a win.
Like you get to be the richest man in the world without knowing about all of the backhanded bullshit
Seriously this means Apple IS going to pull twit from the App Store
They are just going to collaborate with Google and Microsoft first so they can all strike as one.
Sounds like Tim "The Faggot"
CuckCook choked when DeSantis said Congress should look into Antitrust actions.... can't have that now can he?Why has Elon been allowed to come this far?
Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
I'm assuming he's a globalist plant, but I'm also giving him the benefit of the doubt because so far nothing besides his refusal to allow Alex Jones back on Twitter has corroborated that
One reason they want electric cars is because Americans no longer have the skills to turn the wrench. And, its not getting any better.
Fuck off handshake.
Even if you trust Cook, don't think for a second he'd put up a fight if Biden's communists gave him a call and asked them to remove it.
This post could be construed as a demonstration of Elon's having brought a potential rival to heel
Tim being a fag is a very important detail. Fags are the most deeply committed to the globohomo hegemony over our culture. They’re the least interested in debating it and therefore the least interested in free speech. Tim would definitely pull twitter off the App Store if he thought he could get away with it. Tim is calculating how to work around the shareholders objections. Get ready for some false flag attacks on fags where they use twitter to coordinate.
Breaking N.E.W.S tomorrow, apple removes Twatter from the app store. (Miss-spelling intentional)
i see no misspellings..
They won't do it when Twitter is still popular because of the loss of revenue to them.
Apple can less afford to ban apps than Google, because iOS won't let you sideload.
Together they control around $3 trillion. In the event Elon “red pills” Tim Cook, the cabal’s options would be severely limited
isn’t elon a liberal?
I strongly sense Elon is using coded language here.
It's almost as if he's saying, "I just checkmated Tim Cook's faggy ass and he sheepishly gave in to my demands. I'm saying nice things about Tim in this tweet, but the fact is I own him now. He's my little bitch boy and will do what I say, or face my unholy wraith of lawyers and lawsuits which he knows he will lose."
Better get the universal privacy pine-sat-phone going ASAP. They're coming for ya, Elon.
Sounds like a deal was struck...tread lightly.
Build a phone, Elon, do it.
And you trust that slippery faggotry……come on Elon. I know you aspy but fucking hell dude…..