Funny enough my bloodline 7-8 generations back included one guy who married and freed a black slave. If they do this, I’ll go rent a tent and change my address for a month, collect me $225k and use every fucking cent to see Trump re-elected in 2024.
You are massively wrong about the Spaniards. The first slave came in 1502. Then they started pouring in after that because the Spaniards thought the locals were lazy workers.
This is the truth. I think nearly everyone can agree that slavery and the treatment of blacks in this country was abhorrent. But people and societies change. And ours has changed that viewpoint probably faster than any other social justice issue in the history of humanity.
If the government focused on PSA's to aid the inner cities, it would do far more than give away money that gets squandered. Give people the ability to make it out of the inner cities and make something of themselves. It starts with education, and never includes "free" money.
They don't want to leave though. It's the gangster lifestyle they want. Every last one of em wants to be a rapper or basketball star. Choose to act a fool in highschool and never go to college cause 'mane I ain't got to gone be a rapper'
College is mostly worthless, I would rather send a kid of mine to crane operator school at this point. Go sit in an air conditioned small office while making 25 an hour 60 hours a week
If i havebt made it as well as i did in the diesel world, electrician would be my second choice. It aint easy, but no blue collar job is, but its not the worst out there either.
I did 7 years of college - mechanical engineering undergrad and accounting masters
The college degrees helped me, most certainly - I was a prior enlisted that became an officer, that pay increase helped. And they helped me run my own business after, that made me about 10 million dollars over the next 13 years.
But now you can't really become an officer unless you are black or a woman, unless you want to do what I did and become an EOD officer. I would still say tradesmen need to know more math and general knowledge of how to run a business.
HVAC is king in certain parts of the country. I loved hearing from friends who were working during covid about customers wanting them to wear masks and having so much work lined up they could happily just go to the next customer, not that the customer didn't ever back down about it as when it's hot people need that AC or will go crazy.
It was always the best telling people to fuck off when they try to get you to wear masks and shit. Had this indian family tell us to out on these little booties over our shoes, guess they ended up wanted a new kitchen and bathroom over a germ free floor.
Keep in mind this is the same family that when I went in the basement (finished) there was dirty pots and pans, plates and cups from one side to the other, donkeys had to spend an hour movie shit just so we could run some cables and wires.
Most disgusting thing I ever saw, ants and shit everywhere, mouse shit and mice scurrying around, spiders over anything they could make a web on. We avoid work with indians (dots) now lmao
Or you could be in California, where we tried to do the Gen Z HVAC dude a solid and tell him he didn't need to wear a mask, only to be told he'd rather keep it on "tO bE SaFe."
College is absolutely not worthless so long as you choose a major that has an established career track and are serious about it. I work in wealth management and we are paying people straight out of school $60-$70k per year minimum, with a bonus on top of that and full benefits to work ~40 hours per week with two days of remote/work from home flexibility per week. They also 4 weeks of PTO along with a ton of standard federal holidays. 45/hr as a master electrician is ~90k per year if you make the hours equivalent. The only difference is, in my industry if you are good at your job and serious about what you do, you can earn $200k+ total comp within 5-10 years fairly easily, and if you are willing to be an entrepreneur and can start your own firm, the sky is the limit.
we are paying people straight out of school $60-$70k per year minimum
Masters or bachelors?
Regardless, one of my sons is paying that to highschool dropouts to work at a demolition company, with free employee housing. More hours but young people dont want idle hands, people are better off mentally with a 60 hour work week.
Another of my sons pays 80-90 for assistant managers at his McDonalds - and those are often college seniors.
And 200k+ total comp for equipment operators is also fairly easy in 5-10 years, while entrepreneurship is significantly easier. As is buying your own McDonalds or starting up your coffee shop.
I know the trade industry is also fully viable and a great fit for many, I'm just saying that college is not useless depending on what type of work you want to do or are actually interested in.
This is for bachelor's degree students. 60k-70k starting is base pay, not including 10-20% annual bonus. Most of my hires spend their free time on self improvement or passion projects. That might be musical development, fishing/hunting, raising a family, gym time, church, volunteering, or all of the above.
I really should do this one... Plenty of students to hire and the wife would think it's a party every time she felt like going in. Plus that "woman owned business" moniker would get us somewhere.
Also I have a reputation of being the biggest asshole in any room that I am in - and I raised my kids to be the same way. Not exactly a good position for glorified call center workers.
I should have been more specific. I am talking about an Operating Engineer (Crane operators, operating graders and such) in the Union is what I meant. They aren't paying fuel costs.
I think nearly everyone can agree that slavery and the treatment of blacks in this country was abhorrent
In 1974, there was a boxing match between Mohammad Ali and George Foreman in Zaire. After the fight a reporter asked Ali "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
Blaming me for slavery is like blaming me for Biden supporting Ukraine and the murders that follow. Only 2% of Americans owned slaves and most of them didn't want the blacks imported at all. Now their descendents are being blamed and robbed for something they didn't want and had nothing to do with.
Make the politicians/elite pay these reparations. In large part it's those in the political and elite classes that owned slaves. Their descendants today are still in these ruling classes for the most part. Instead it will be the middle class that gets fucked in all of this.
And because I’m a pragmatist, and live in the world the way it is, instead of the way I wish it was, stop making it harder for the immoral leeches, degenerates, and feral violent animals to cull their offspring. We don’t need that ✊🏿13/75✊🏿 going up any higher. I mean FUCK. 🤦🏼♂️
So if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, you could say that there were lasting effects of slavery over a few generations. Okay if that's the case....how many generations? Because slavery was only practiced in parts of the US and ended a long time ago, Jim Crow ended a long time ago as well. So then if you want to claim there are persistent effects, how long do they last for? Because you can't claim to be disadvantaged forever.
And more importantly, what the fuck do you people think race-based scholarships, affirmative action, and welfare are? Any number of dollars you come up for in reparations I guarentee the white race has paid out to blacks in the country several times over, and that's without accounting for the economic damage done by blacks to whites, and lets not even get started on the violence. At this point blacks owe us.
Been there, got the t-shirt. These joggers should give thanks every day their ancestors weren't quite fast enough, and that's just the small percentage that didn't immigrate after the Atlantic slave trade ended.
Yeah but the argument is that while my parents and grandparents were able to build wealth through home ownership that appreciated in wealth in a way that benefits me. A black person’s grandparent who was just as hard working and just as rich as mine wouldn’t have been allowed to buy the same house and build that wealth for their grandparents.
And say, a white elder who bought their house 60 years ago in the Bay Area could sell their house for a $2 million retirement, but a black elder wouldn’t have been able to buy that house, and wouldn’t have that nest egg.
That still doesn't make the taxpayers of 2022 responsible for what happened in the past. Many of those taxpayers didn't even live in California at the time, some might have literally just immigrated to the USA themselves.
It will be a monthly benefit soon enough. And I'm sure native americans will get on this gravy train as well. At some point it will be non-whites only getting a couple grand a month for being oppressed.
Honestly, the vast majority will be conned out of it by the very people who ACTUALLY bought, and shipped their ancestors from their homeland, and fellow tribesmen, to here, and South America where the overwhelming majority of them actually ended up. Sorry for the antisemitism by the way. 🤷🏼♂️
No, this GDP number is bullshit. GDP includes governments spending like this stupid bill. And no, each resident is not sending in $348 more, California is full of a bunch of rich assholes, that's where the GDP comes from. The rich are being fleeced, California is full of welfare leeches, the most in the country.
And once you actually drill down to Cost of Living Adjusted GDP per capita, California is not a rich state, it's a highly overpriced state in the bottom half of rankings and the Midwest ranks at the top.
California's average IQ is also among the lowest in the nation next to Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Hawaii. The average Californian is a poor, low IQ Hispanic on welfare... not some rich actor or investment banker (read: usurer/loan shark/scammer) living in Beverley Hills.
Most of what you said needs to be applied to our entire country and the federal gov. Not just California.
But if an incredible economy and lots of money doesn't stack up and mean anything then I guess America is no where near the greatest country on earth.
I wouldnt say it's impossible to buy a home in California. Lots of people buy homes here. And the reason they cost so much is simple. Because people will pay those absurd prices.
The average Californian makes more money doing the same work as someone else in another state. So they can afford the taxes and the increased prices of other goods and services. I mean what do you expect when Target has to start their employees off at 22$ an hour?
And as far as desalination goes I think that's the wrong answer. California has plenty of water it's just horrible management. They don't spend anything building new reservoirs and aqueducts. William Mulholland built one almost a hundred years ago and brought water to L.A. from the Owens River Valley up north. The droughts are all a scam.
Most of what you said needs to be applied to our entire country and the federal gov. Not just California.
This isn't entirely wrong but let's not pretend like California is not the #1 hotbed of jewry and satan. Montana, Florida, and most others, regardless of population size/density, do not produce nearly the wretchedness that CA does.
But if an incredible economy and lots of money doesn't stack up
So I'm gonna take a guess that you're a faitlet (read: gaytheist) because you seem to place money on such a pedestal that you use it as the sole criteria by which a place to live should be judged. Putting aside that naive (and frankly evil) understanding of attainment for a moment, what good is making all that money if you don't get to keep any of it. By your own admission, house prices are "absurd." As are all the taxes, goods, and everything else.
I guess America is no where near the greatest country on earth.
The USA is not #1 in GDP per capita nor by purchasing power parity so I'm really fucking confused by what economic metric you think we are the greatest country on earth? Yeah, we have the biggest GDP in the world, does that help the average White citizen, or does it help the CEO Mr. Shekelwitz and his horde of Spanish-speaking "new Americans"?
I wouldnt say it's impossible to buy a home in California
Sure, if you're born rich, get rich, get welfare (read: be non-white/especially non-white male), live in the tumbleweed desert part of the state, or like one of the many lovely homeless that enrich your city streets, park on public property, it's not impossible!
Lots of people buy homes here
A state with the largest population of any state in the US and a large land area has a large number of home buyers? Wowee.
And the reason they cost so much is simple. Because people will pay those absurd prices.
Yes, I too am familiar with supply and demand. There is a lack of supply (for many reasons but leftist prevention of building and occupation by foreign nationals are two). There is a surplus of demand (Mr. Shekelwitz needs CS grads to keep his tech scams running and Hollywood pedos can't exactly molest children virtually like they can on set).
The average Californian makes more money doing the same work as someone else in another state. So they can afford the taxes and the increased prices of other goods and services. I mean what do you expect when Target has to start their employees off at 22$ an hour?
This is the same asinine logic used to justify the "fight for $15 minimum wage" a few years ago. Newsflash since you have apparently never stepped into an econ classroom: Labor isn't magically worth more because a law fixes the price of the labor. Higher wages lead to higher prices. The business can sustain higher wages because they have the power to raise prices, especially for goods for which the demand is inelastic (like, you know, things people need to survive...food, supplies, housing). I find it laughable that you admit that it's an expensive place to live and think seriously for a moment that the higher cost of living is offset by the higher wages. It is absolutely not.
And as far as desalination goes I think that's the wrong answer. California has plenty of water it's just horrible management.
It's the only answer. California is a desert and while it has some water, you've been invaded by the tune of millions (this applies to the southwest broadly) and the existing water simply does not continue to meet the demand of the increased population. You won't be getting water from Colorado or other states. Santa Catalina is an example that proves desalination is effective.
That's not even remotely true because you are equating the revenues of major international companies that are headquartered in California towards the GDP of the state when a lot of that money doesn't even make it into the state.
Conservatives in California (and similar places) need to realize that they're a) funding the madness and b) contributing to the number of representatives that California assigns on a winner Democrat-takes-all basis and stop rationalizing why they stay.
I'm afraid a lot of people are going to learn they are not decedents of slaves. This is going to cause a huge division in the black community and cause increased racial disparage. The have and have nots, those from slave families will now look down upon those NOT decadent from slaves and create a weird hierarchy within the black community.
I'm surprised this is so far down. If I remember right, there are very few actual direct descendants of slavery. But I think the idea is to throw this out to get the black vote, since everyone will think they get this money. Also, can you imagine the absolute chaos that kind of money will cause? its would be ww3 in the inner city.
*Add to the hierarchy that already exists in the black community. They already have the "hood vs those that got out" and "you actin' too white". The criminal hood rats look down on the ones that left and black people in general look down on black people who don't act like stereotypical thugs in rap videos.
Going to be interesting for a mixed race family that had a slave as a descendant somewhere along the line and now the great-great-great grandchildren are white. Wonder how that's going to pan out...
Shit, how much is the research going to cost to figure out who's related to who? Another 75 billion to pay some liberal arts retards to poke around on Google and guess who deserves it.
Exactly. yeah, notice it says it will recommend. They get all the brownie points in their stupid media talking heads, and then blame someone else when it doesn't get passed.
I swear, if this shit actually happens, that would be the thing everyone needs to stop paying taxes over. Like, as if Ukraine was not bad enough, if we just start handing out a quarter million dollars per person, for no reason other than fucking virtue signaling identity politics, then I don't how much farther we can fall.
There will legitimately be situations where the state will have given out money to an upper class black person, while his poor white trash neighbors living down the road in a trailer park are suffering to even heat their homes.
If that doesn't enrage you, I don't know what will.
These racist ass ideas of treating people differently strictly based on the color of their skin, need to fucking die already. We supposedly went through the "civil rights movement" in the 60s because of this shit, and for a long time, things actually DID get better. I can remember growing up in the 80s and 90s and nobody gave a fuck about skin color. Black, white, brown people all grew up together and there was nothing strange about it. Everyone was a fellow american, everyone was your neighbor/member of the community.
Then, fucking globalist scumbag Obama comes into office, and suddenly he's lighting racial fires and throwing gas on it, and we've been fucked ever since.
It's high time this racist bullshit fucking ENDS. In any direction. Racism is racism is racism. If you treat people different based on the color of their skin, you're a racist piece of shit, plain and simple.
The democrats have seemingly become the biggest racists we've had in this nation, ever.
The democrats have seemingly become the biggest racists we've had in this nation, ever.
<Insert always have been meme here.>
Democrats never stopped embracing racism. They love Biden, despite very racist remarks he made, and his eulogy of a KKK leader. Democrats embraced segregation, red lining, and Jim Crow. Somehow, people who claim to oppose racism still vote D.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
"The Hispanic community, unlike the black community, is diverse"
He said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Talking about black kids: "So, I've learned about roaches, I've learned about kids jumping on my lap."
And Trump is a racist for saying that some illegal aliens are criminals
I am 110% against the idea of reparations. But if you ask me that money would on some level make a tiny bit of sense because the US government is responsible for slavery in some capacity.
But as far as Ukraine goes. Give me a fucking break. We owe them nothing. It's all about the western jihad against Russia.
But if you ask me that money would on some level make a tiny bit of sense because the US government is responsible for slavery in some capacity.
No, just no. We already paid that bill, even though we never should have in the first place.
40 acres and a mule, and it got squandered under nothing but excuses of 'well it was bad land" or "we don't know how to farm", which all boiled down to the same thing -they just wanted handouts.
If you want to blame someone for slavery, blame the people who captured and sold the people. Were it not for slavers, slaves wouldn't be a thing.
I'm not blaming anyone alive today. I'm blaming the US. GOVERNMENT from that time. Again I don't think reparations are appropriate. I don't believe in them. I'm just saying that it would make more sense than sending it to Ukraine with zero over sight and no accountability.
How about neither of them making sense? That sort of "well I don't agree but I'll compromise and say it was wrong" attitude is the exact sort of rino horseshit that got us where we are now
That's not what I am doing. I'm just saying that sending all that money to Ukraine is arguably worse and that is all. With the lack of outrage in this country over that. Don't expect any pushback when it comes to reparations for lazy blacks.
The idea of reparations is exsctly Christian. I forgot the precise story, but there’s a story of a man who paid back money to someone he illicitly took money from. Not only did he return the money, he returned it sevenfold.
The man in the story realized what he did wrong and paid the money back willingly. It was purely between him and the person he wronged. However, what Commiefornia is suggesting is far from that. It’s taking money that was taken from citizens at gunpoint who did nothing wrong and giving it to people who never were wronged. It’s an absolute bastardization of what actual reparations is.
I don't think you and the guy you're replying to actually disagree. He's clearly saying that these kinds of reparations are anti-Christian, and you agree.
The Bible speaks of generational sin in Exodus 20:5, which states that "the iniquities of the fathers are visited upon the sons and daughters — unto the third and fourth generation."[3] This concept implicates that "unresolved issues get handed down from generation to generation", but that "Jesus is the bondage breaker ... [and] He is able to break the cycle of this curse, but only if we want Him to."
Jesus has rid us of the concept of ancestral curse.
Eph 6:5-6 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
I've always said I would entertain the idea of reparations if they could come up with a hard dollar figure after which we would drop the subject forever
He didn't win his election legally. Election Fraud doesn't could.
The people of California are fucking retarded, they deserve what they get, because they are mentally ill.
He doesn't need to run. Aunt Nancy is still in the picture and she'll make sure he gets in. Hell or High water. Kackles Harris should be very very afraid right about now.
There's nothing that can be done. Just like American conservatives did nothing when Biden stole the election
So stfu you're no better. Youre just either born in another state or you had the ability to move. Neither is impressive
This is why the socialists want to confiscate your guns early, before the collapse of society and what Obama referred to as the "fundamental transformation" of our country.
LMAO... you are correct...It never had slaves under Mexican Rule, or the Few years as an independent Republic or as a State in the Union. During the time of slavery there were almost no African people in the state. "The first census recorded of African Americans in California appeared in 1850 with 962 people and 1860 with 4,086 people."
In 1850 California was admitted to the Union as a free state. The Confederacy did not exist until 1861. Any Confederates in California was for the exact purpose of Stealing Gold from the Union. The purpose of reparations, as stated by the leftist, is to make amends for the INSTITUTION of slavery and to return the ill gotten economic gains that the state benefited from slavery. California never had written into law slavery and by the time the civil war started had almost no Africans in the state. So there is almost Zero African American Descendants effected by slavery in California.
I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, but my point would still be valid even if that is true - slavery was never codified into the California constitution, so the state could not be held responsible as a defendant for an alleged criminal policy it never adopted nor implemented.
State-funded reparations is essentially an admission of guilt by the state government to the allegation of codifying slavery into legislative policy or officially being involved in the slave trade, which the state never was.
Therefore, the argument for state-funded slavery reparations is invalid.
I’ve done some genealogy and I can document my descent from a black slave, my 9th great-grandfather. He was freed after fighting in the Revolutionary War, and married a white widow in New York. He was probably half white himself, because his male line descendants carry the Y chromosome of the prominent colonial family that freed him. Our family is white as they get and has been for many generations, so this discovery was rather startling to my older relatives.
You bet your ass I’ll be there with my hand out if they ever decide to do this foolishness nationwide.
Think about the numbers who will flock to Ancestry dot com to test their DNA, now who owns Ancestry again? On December 4, 2020, The Blackstone Group acquired the company in a deal valued at $4.7 billion. Yes, there are other companies but this is a popular one.
I think it was PBS that had a show where they did the genealogy of celebrities and told their ancestry story. They did Don Cheadle. He was literally upset to find out that his family was actually held by Native Americans. And as many found out the Native Americans held on to their slaves a bit longer after the Civil War. It was a whole thing that got people all riled up.
How many of the people applying for these handouts will be able to prove that they're descended from slaves?
This fucking retard is going to just start handing out free cash to every single person who shows up and asserts that there word alone is enough proof.
Ok, let's just deduct all that section 8 housing assistance as a way to call it even. I'm pretty sure they'll end up owing more than what is never headed their direction.
I believe that's what's known as a benepropism. The UK's descendants are pretty clearly going to be slaves to the Muslim hordes. Dearborn, Michigan, too.
I've said before than anyone who doesn't like the US should be given $100k and a one-way ticket to anywhere they want with the proviso they don't get to return unless they repay every penny.
Who went from a $100b budget surplus (thanks to Fed Gov Covid handouts)...
To a $25b budget deficit in less than 2 years.
They can totally afford another $550b in unfunded liabilities!
This is totally not just another vote buying scam, bro! Believe us, this isn't another "student loan forgiveness" ... We really gonna gibs u $$$ dawg. Vote blue!
Biden can't even get 10k per person in student loan forgiveness so what makes Hairgel think he can pull this off?
200k per person
That's 1M for 5 people
That's 100M for 500 people
That's 1B for 5000 people
That's 100B for 50,000
That's 550B for 300k people.
There is 39M people in California
There is 331M people in USA
What an obscenely disproportionate distribution of taxpayer money. In makes socialism look good. This timeline is so fucked up, we are being governed by literal batman villains.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury.
I would be fine with this if then we could be settled. If then we would never hear about slavery or whatever again. If we could then blame them for the statistics they create.
This. There were actual White slaves in the Barbary states in North Africa. It's estimated 1 to 1.25 million European Christians were slaves from the 16th to 18th centuries.
I think you are thinking of Irish. The Irish were actually sent in droves before the African slave trade really took off. The British wanted to get rid of all the filthy Catholics so something like 300k slaves were kidnapped and sent to the west Indies and what would eventually become the US. Also, a great deal of people came to the US as indentured servants which is what many of the African slaves came as as well but laws were made to prevent them from being released after their term.
More division
More inflation.
Hell yeah.
I identify as a black slave descendant from California occasionally, due to our governments pestilence.
You know, I am something of a descendant of black slaves myself.meme
Funny enough my bloodline 7-8 generations back included one guy who married and freed a black slave. If they do this, I’ll go rent a tent and change my address for a month, collect me $225k and use every fucking cent to see Trump re-elected in 2024.
I’m feeling a little blackish myself…not to mention trans while in San Francisco.
But if you voted for Trump, you ain’t black.
Biden said so.
No cash for you.
CaliPornia is about to get flooded with Blacks from all the liberal Cities....
Like massively flooded....
You deserve to collect for everyone in the line who has since died.
i am sure there was a slave in the woodpile somewhere in my family tree
I wuz kang
you was dickwasher
a job is a job
Dick washer is like a dish washer in California.
Mans gotta eat
<clap clap> WIPERS!!
Not a single liberal would get this.
Just one?
I'm spartacus 2nd name umbugo, father to someone else's child husband to a pin head and I will have my restitution in this life or the next 😂😂
darn, you beat me to it!!! If you are Black, I am sure you will still get your scratch...
-Hunter Biden
Hellcat sales about to hit the moon
How do I invest in crack and newports?
More money laundering
Goes without saying
Paid for by the wage slaves. Not by the slave masters.
I'm surprised none of them have called for white people to be enslaved for 400 years or some other lunacy.
They have. Said this time it's their turn.
Millions more whites were enslaved by African pirates than blacks were enslaved by whites. The word slave comes from slav as in slavic.
And ask yourself ... why are there no halfbreeds in Africa? Hint: they castrated all the men.
What about the women?
You’re not paying attention.
Surely
More unfilled promises for votes, continue with the victim playbook.
Mo' money
Taking money from people who never owned slaves and giving it to those who never were slaves.
It’s his get out the vote campaign for 2024. Vote for me an I’ll set you free. 🤑🤑
Ball of confusion, that's what the world is today.
Isn't California almost majority hispanic?
Boat loads of migrants will be migrating up from Africa to California.
The Spaniards brought the first black slaves to the Americas, don't you know?
(((Spaniards)))
No they didn't....
The only Black that they brought over with the Conquistadores was a Catholic Priest....
The AZTECS, Incas, and all the rest ALREADY had Slaves here....
The Spaniards basically let those slaves go, and enslaved their Masters....
Then they Killed off the Master Slaves, and pillaged for Gold, Silver, Gems, etc....
It's a good heritage.....
You are massively wrong about the Spaniards. The first slave came in 1502. Then they started pouring in after that because the Spaniards thought the locals were lazy workers.
https://www.brycchancarey.com/slavery/chrono3.htm
You are correct that nearly every tribe also had slaves.
Hernán Cortés entered the chat room
Well, Slavery was rampant all over the world....
Nobody disagreed with ownership of Slaves other than themselves being a Slave....
And I was not so wrong, it took a good 50 years before Slaves were shipped into North America, which was not yet the U.S.....
But it was the British/Jew Slave trade that made it much worse and quite prominent in the Colonies....
Yes, throughout 99% of human history, if you didn't take slaves.... you were a slave.
India checking in. Internet players bringing in fellow country men by the plane load. Bonus, dudes already accustom to caste system.
Yup. So at least there’s some irony in that their taxpayer dollars will fund reparations.
If they take the money, don't they have to be shipped back?
Race already divides people, we are 80 years past "division" this is Black Supremacy and buying them off so they don't leave the plantation.
Buy stock in an etf that has multiple tv companies and also menthol cigarettes. Because we all know that’s what they will be buying TVs and menthols
And big rims. And weaves and nails. For that kind of money wraps for their new Chargers.
Didn't biden ban menthols?
This is the result of diversity
Dieversity
😂😂😂 those fuckers don't deserve any money they were never slaves and never knew any slaves.
This is the truth. I think nearly everyone can agree that slavery and the treatment of blacks in this country was abhorrent. But people and societies change. And ours has changed that viewpoint probably faster than any other social justice issue in the history of humanity.
If the government focused on PSA's to aid the inner cities, it would do far more than give away money that gets squandered. Give people the ability to make it out of the inner cities and make something of themselves. It starts with education, and never includes "free" money.
They don't want to leave though. It's the gangster lifestyle they want. Every last one of em wants to be a rapper or basketball star. Choose to act a fool in highschool and never go to college cause 'mane I ain't got to gone be a rapper'
College is mostly worthless, I would rather send a kid of mine to crane operator school at this point. Go sit in an air conditioned small office while making 25 an hour 60 hours a week
Electrician would be my trade of choice for my kids. Paid apprenticeship, on the job training, very secure.
Destroys your body and pretty likely to kill you, as well as working with too many dumbasses. Not to mention union politics.
Now I personally did concrete cutting, coring and polishing. But I wouldn't recommend that to people without knowing them
If i havebt made it as well as i did in the diesel world, electrician would be my second choice. It aint easy, but no blue collar job is, but its not the worst out there either.
Autobody is pretty cool too, sucks starting out, but a good trade to have a few years in.
I hear they make $25/hr min at apprentice level. Masters making $45+/hr, probably more.
And they keep the lights on. Who doesn't like that?
I like electrical too. Got a master's license in it along with doing hvac
I agree..went to two years of college. Now doing HVAC. Only debt is a mortgage. There's good money in the trades
I did 7 years of college - mechanical engineering undergrad and accounting masters
The college degrees helped me, most certainly - I was a prior enlisted that became an officer, that pay increase helped. And they helped me run my own business after, that made me about 10 million dollars over the next 13 years.
But now you can't really become an officer unless you are black or a woman, unless you want to do what I did and become an EOD officer. I would still say tradesmen need to know more math and general knowledge of how to run a business.
HVAC is king in certain parts of the country. I loved hearing from friends who were working during covid about customers wanting them to wear masks and having so much work lined up they could happily just go to the next customer, not that the customer didn't ever back down about it as when it's hot people need that AC or will go crazy.
It was always the best telling people to fuck off when they try to get you to wear masks and shit. Had this indian family tell us to out on these little booties over our shoes, guess they ended up wanted a new kitchen and bathroom over a germ free floor.
Keep in mind this is the same family that when I went in the basement (finished) there was dirty pots and pans, plates and cups from one side to the other, donkeys had to spend an hour movie shit just so we could run some cables and wires.
Most disgusting thing I ever saw, ants and shit everywhere, mouse shit and mice scurrying around, spiders over anything they could make a web on. We avoid work with indians (dots) now lmao
Or you could be in California, where we tried to do the Gen Z HVAC dude a solid and tell him he didn't need to wear a mask, only to be told he'd rather keep it on "tO bE SaFe."
I had to wear masks anyways because of silicosis in concrete cutting
College is absolutely not worthless so long as you choose a major that has an established career track and are serious about it. I work in wealth management and we are paying people straight out of school $60-$70k per year minimum, with a bonus on top of that and full benefits to work ~40 hours per week with two days of remote/work from home flexibility per week. They also 4 weeks of PTO along with a ton of standard federal holidays. 45/hr as a master electrician is ~90k per year if you make the hours equivalent. The only difference is, in my industry if you are good at your job and serious about what you do, you can earn $200k+ total comp within 5-10 years fairly easily, and if you are willing to be an entrepreneur and can start your own firm, the sky is the limit.
Masters or bachelors?
Regardless, one of my sons is paying that to highschool dropouts to work at a demolition company, with free employee housing. More hours but young people dont want idle hands, people are better off mentally with a 60 hour work week.
Another of my sons pays 80-90 for assistant managers at his McDonalds - and those are often college seniors.
And 200k+ total comp for equipment operators is also fairly easy in 5-10 years, while entrepreneurship is significantly easier. As is buying your own McDonalds or starting up your coffee shop.
I know the trade industry is also fully viable and a great fit for many, I'm just saying that college is not useless depending on what type of work you want to do or are actually interested in.
This is for bachelor's degree students. 60k-70k starting is base pay, not including 10-20% annual bonus. Most of my hires spend their free time on self improvement or passion projects. That might be musical development, fishing/hunting, raising a family, gym time, church, volunteering, or all of the above.
I am a Vietnam veteran. Why is it that your type of office job encourages depression in young men at a higher rate than literally going to war?
I really should do this one... Plenty of students to hire and the wife would think it's a party every time she felt like going in. Plus that "woman owned business" moniker would get us somewhere.
If you are used to managing a restaurant it works. But it isn't that fun, it is still work
Also I have a reputation of being the biggest asshole in any room that I am in - and I raised my kids to be the same way. Not exactly a good position for glorified call center workers.
Alot of those guys make a hell of a lot more than 25 an hour
Not at 20 years old, but yes. 90k a year like that is on the lower side.
25 an hour is 50 a year. 90k is about 45 an hour which is more accurate starting pay for crane operators
I had a guy make 18 an hour into 110k base salary.
Standard crane operator pay is 25 starting while working 5 12s.
Blue collar isnt 40 hour work weeks.
An Operator in the Trades is making a lot closer to $100 an hour than $25.
If Diesel was free, sure
I should have been more specific. I am talking about an Operating Engineer (Crane operators, operating graders and such) in the Union is what I meant. They aren't paying fuel costs.
There is only one union in my state and that is the electricians union.
Which is part of why the mine a couple of my grandkids work at produces more coal than the state of West Virginia
To be fair, college is a waste of time for the vast majority of people.
In 1974, there was a boxing match between Mohammad Ali and George Foreman in Zaire. After the fight a reporter asked Ali "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
Based Cassius.
Blaming me for slavery is like blaming me for Biden supporting Ukraine and the murders that follow. Only 2% of Americans owned slaves and most of them didn't want the blacks imported at all. Now their descendents are being blamed and robbed for something they didn't want and had nothing to do with.
Make the politicians/elite pay these reparations. In large part it's those in the political and elite classes that owned slaves. Their descendants today are still in these ruling classes for the most part. Instead it will be the middle class that gets fucked in all of this.
These were all policies approved by the US government. They are ultimately responsible.
The nation paid in blood
They don't want that, hence the fight against "gentrification"
I'd be okay with this
And because I’m a pragmatist, and live in the world the way it is, instead of the way I wish it was, stop making it harder for the immoral leeches, degenerates, and feral violent animals to cull their offspring. We don’t need that ✊🏿13/75✊🏿 going up any higher. I mean FUCK. 🤦🏼♂️
So if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, you could say that there were lasting effects of slavery over a few generations. Okay if that's the case....how many generations? Because slavery was only practiced in parts of the US and ended a long time ago, Jim Crow ended a long time ago as well. So then if you want to claim there are persistent effects, how long do they last for? Because you can't claim to be disadvantaged forever.
And more importantly, what the fuck do you people think race-based scholarships, affirmative action, and welfare are? Any number of dollars you come up for in reparations I guarentee the white race has paid out to blacks in the country several times over, and that's without accounting for the economic damage done by blacks to whites, and lets not even get started on the violence. At this point blacks owe us.
Imagine how bad their lives would have been if their ancestors stayed slaves in Africa instead of the new world.
Been there, got the t-shirt. These joggers should give thanks every day their ancestors weren't quite fast enough, and that's just the small percentage that didn't immigrate after the Atlantic slave trade ended.
I found an article about it and it said that the housing discrimination mentioned in the title happened until the 1960s.
Okay so that's bad.
Now lets weigh that against the damage BLM caused. Joggers still owe us.
Was it actually though?!? Did it just happen in a vacuum for no reason whatsoever? History, even up until recent history would prove otherwise.
Case, and point. I rest YOUR case. 😉
That was still 60 years ago, and the vast majority of the people responsible for it are now dead.
Yeah but the argument is that while my parents and grandparents were able to build wealth through home ownership that appreciated in wealth in a way that benefits me. A black person’s grandparent who was just as hard working and just as rich as mine wouldn’t have been allowed to buy the same house and build that wealth for their grandparents.
And say, a white elder who bought their house 60 years ago in the Bay Area could sell their house for a $2 million retirement, but a black elder wouldn’t have been able to buy that house, and wouldn’t have that nest egg.
That still doesn't make the taxpayers of 2022 responsible for what happened in the past. Many of those taxpayers didn't even live in California at the time, some might have literally just immigrated to the USA themselves.
Wait so you’re blaming ancestors even further back??? Hilarious
🤦🏼♂️
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Most of them will blow through that money inside of a month.
...and the week after that:
"What about Second Reparations?"
It will be a monthly benefit soon enough. And I'm sure native americans will get on this gravy train as well. At some point it will be non-whites only getting a couple grand a month for being oppressed.
I think they'll exclude Asians too.
Try a week
Honestly, the vast majority will be conned out of it by the very people who ACTUALLY bought, and shipped their ancestors from their homeland, and fellow tribesmen, to here, and South America where the overwhelming majority of them actually ended up. Sorry for the antisemitism by the way. 🤷🏼♂️
At least the Asian liquor owners are going to get rich. 😂
If I ever inherit a plantation, I solemnly promise to never buy any.
Despite being the Hollywood, Big Tech, weed, wine, political scam cash cow state
No, this GDP number is bullshit. GDP includes governments spending like this stupid bill. And no, each resident is not sending in $348 more, California is full of a bunch of rich assholes, that's where the GDP comes from. The rich are being fleeced, California is full of welfare leeches, the most in the country.
And once you actually drill down to Cost of Living Adjusted GDP per capita, California is not a rich state, it's a highly overpriced state in the bottom half of rankings and the Midwest ranks at the top.
California's average IQ is also among the lowest in the nation next to Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and Hawaii. The average Californian is a poor, low IQ Hispanic on welfare... not some rich actor or investment banker (read: usurer/loan shark/scammer) living in Beverley Hills.
Just because you have a source doesn't mean whatever you said in your comment is true.
Go listen to the song "Federal Aid" by Johnny Rebel because even a hillbilly from 50 years ago understands why what you're saying is retarded nonsense
Lol I wouldn't call Johnny rebel a hippy
Most of what you said needs to be applied to our entire country and the federal gov. Not just California.
But if an incredible economy and lots of money doesn't stack up and mean anything then I guess America is no where near the greatest country on earth.
I wouldnt say it's impossible to buy a home in California. Lots of people buy homes here. And the reason they cost so much is simple. Because people will pay those absurd prices.
The average Californian makes more money doing the same work as someone else in another state. So they can afford the taxes and the increased prices of other goods and services. I mean what do you expect when Target has to start their employees off at 22$ an hour?
And as far as desalination goes I think that's the wrong answer. California has plenty of water it's just horrible management. They don't spend anything building new reservoirs and aqueducts. William Mulholland built one almost a hundred years ago and brought water to L.A. from the Owens River Valley up north. The droughts are all a scam.
This isn't entirely wrong but let's not pretend like California is not the #1 hotbed of jewry and satan. Montana, Florida, and most others, regardless of population size/density, do not produce nearly the wretchedness that CA does.
So I'm gonna take a guess that you're a faitlet (read: gaytheist) because you seem to place money on such a pedestal that you use it as the sole criteria by which a place to live should be judged. Putting aside that naive (and frankly evil) understanding of attainment for a moment, what good is making all that money if you don't get to keep any of it. By your own admission, house prices are "absurd." As are all the taxes, goods, and everything else.
The USA is not #1 in GDP per capita nor by purchasing power parity so I'm really fucking confused by what economic metric you think we are the greatest country on earth? Yeah, we have the biggest GDP in the world, does that help the average White citizen, or does it help the CEO Mr. Shekelwitz and his horde of Spanish-speaking "new Americans"?
Sure, if you're born rich, get rich, get welfare (read: be non-white/especially non-white male), live in the tumbleweed desert part of the state, or like one of the many lovely homeless that enrich your city streets, park on public property, it's not impossible!
A state with the largest population of any state in the US and a large land area has a large number of home buyers? Wowee.
Yes, I too am familiar with supply and demand. There is a lack of supply (for many reasons but leftist prevention of building and occupation by foreign nationals are two). There is a surplus of demand (Mr. Shekelwitz needs CS grads to keep his tech scams running and Hollywood pedos can't exactly molest children virtually like they can on set).
This is the same asinine logic used to justify the "fight for $15 minimum wage" a few years ago. Newsflash since you have apparently never stepped into an econ classroom: Labor isn't magically worth more because a law fixes the price of the labor. Higher wages lead to higher prices. The business can sustain higher wages because they have the power to raise prices, especially for goods for which the demand is inelastic (like, you know, things people need to survive...food, supplies, housing). I find it laughable that you admit that it's an expensive place to live and think seriously for a moment that the higher cost of living is offset by the higher wages. It is absolutely not.
It's the only answer. California is a desert and while it has some water, you've been invaded by the tune of millions (this applies to the southwest broadly) and the existing water simply does not continue to meet the demand of the increased population. You won't be getting water from Colorado or other states. Santa Catalina is an example that proves desalination is effective.
That's not even remotely true because you are equating the revenues of major international companies that are headquartered in California towards the GDP of the state when a lot of that money doesn't even make it into the state.
They already have, if you think about it. Think of all the federal dollar projects Commiefornia has that they didn’t have to pay for.
Like the train that goes to nowhere?
Exactly
Yes the feds feed them money to cover this shit
And we'll just bend over.
Newsflash: Chicago Southside becomes a ghost town as residents stream to CA
I’d rather every leftist move to Commifornia. I’d love a citizen exchange in every state. Get the crazies in one area so we can avoid them.
then build a wall to keep them there
send in Snake Plisskin if they start any shit
Underrated comment
Well, until the Pacific takes them.
Conservatives in California (and similar places) need to realize that they're a) funding the madness and b) contributing to the number of representatives that California assigns on a
winnerDemocrat-takes-all basis and stop rationalizing why they stay.Oh we realize. Barely a damn thing we can do to save our home.
It's funny that these people think the problem is isolated to California or a couple blue states. When our whole country is going to shit.
It’s too bad. If you subtract the people, California is the best state from a natural beauty and weather standpoint. The water is cold though.
There's always a silver lining.
Fuck yeah. This is the way
Frank would be happy.
What stops these people from moving from state to state to collect reparations in each state that goes woke and pays them out?
I'm sure they could. If you questioned it, you would be a racist!
If we figure in the amount of crime, penalties, and restitution they owe all of us… they only owe us another $18 trillion in restitution
Based, but I wouldn't take it cuz I'm not a socialist.
That’s the problem- one side wants to be left alone and the other side wants to take…
its never going to balance out. And its never going to stop
We can stop it
When we take their lives.
Go then
Nah fuck that, they wanted reparations and they've been stealing my money forever. They can pay up
Eh, call it a Federal Reserve refund and I'm down.
more pandering
and the people of coloreds will fall for it again
Chappelle already did that skit
Hide the money y’all, there’s poor people around!
Wit ya broke ass
First he did black, white supremacists. Now this?
Guys a prophet
I'm afraid a lot of people are going to learn they are not decedents of slaves. This is going to cause a huge division in the black community and cause increased racial disparage. The have and have nots, those from slave families will now look down upon those NOT decadent from slaves and create a weird hierarchy within the black community.
I'm surprised this is so far down. If I remember right, there are very few actual direct descendants of slavery. But I think the idea is to throw this out to get the black vote, since everyone will think they get this money. Also, can you imagine the absolute chaos that kind of money will cause? its would be ww3 in the inner city.
I don't suppose proven descendants of white slaves would benefit from this program...
I'd love to see high profile libs that are descendants of slave owners pay though
You mean like Kamala
It worked for student loans.
crack prices will go through the roof
*Add to the hierarchy that already exists in the black community. They already have the "hood vs those that got out" and "you actin' too white". The criminal hood rats look down on the ones that left and black people in general look down on black people who don't act like stereotypical thugs in rap videos.
Going to be interesting for a mixed race family that had a slave as a descendant somewhere along the line and now the great-great-great grandchildren are white. Wonder how that's going to pan out...
this figure assumes that every black gets paid the full amount owed to each slave
at one time, I figured out what the average wage was during the civil war, the average work hours of a slave and how many years they worked
dividing it evenly among all of their descendants throughout the generations it came out to less than .01 per descendant
the $559 billion figure quoted will be enough for every black man, woman, and child in CA to get their $223k, plus 10% for the big guy
Sneetches & beaches?
Shit, how much is the research going to cost to figure out who's related to who? Another 75 billion to pay some liberal arts retards to poke around on Google and guess who deserves it.
A rehash of Biden's student debt forgiveness outreach to low-information-voters.
Exactly. yeah, notice it says it will recommend. They get all the brownie points in their stupid media talking heads, and then blame someone else when it doesn't get passed.
I see what you did there
Are brownie points worth less or more than my whitey points?
I guess whitey points would be divinity points.
the idea of reparations is simply anti-christian.
It's simply fucking retarded, is what it is.
I swear, if this shit actually happens, that would be the thing everyone needs to stop paying taxes over. Like, as if Ukraine was not bad enough, if we just start handing out a quarter million dollars per person, for no reason other than fucking virtue signaling identity politics, then I don't how much farther we can fall.
There will legitimately be situations where the state will have given out money to an upper class black person, while his poor white trash neighbors living down the road in a trailer park are suffering to even heat their homes.
If that doesn't enrage you, I don't know what will.
These racist ass ideas of treating people differently strictly based on the color of their skin, need to fucking die already. We supposedly went through the "civil rights movement" in the 60s because of this shit, and for a long time, things actually DID get better. I can remember growing up in the 80s and 90s and nobody gave a fuck about skin color. Black, white, brown people all grew up together and there was nothing strange about it. Everyone was a fellow american, everyone was your neighbor/member of the community.
Then, fucking globalist scumbag Obama comes into office, and suddenly he's lighting racial fires and throwing gas on it, and we've been fucked ever since.
It's high time this racist bullshit fucking ENDS. In any direction. Racism is racism is racism. If you treat people different based on the color of their skin, you're a racist piece of shit, plain and simple.
The democrats have seemingly become the biggest racists we've had in this nation, ever.
<Insert always have been meme here.>
Democrats never stopped embracing racism. They love Biden, despite very racist remarks he made, and his eulogy of a KKK leader. Democrats embraced segregation, red lining, and Jim Crow. Somehow, people who claim to oppose racism still vote D.
"Poor people are just as smart as white people"
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
"The Hispanic community, unlike the black community, is diverse"
He said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Talking about black kids: "So, I've learned about roaches, I've learned about kids jumping on my lap."
And Trump is a racist for saying that some illegal aliens are criminals
I am 110% against the idea of reparations. But if you ask me that money would on some level make a tiny bit of sense because the US government is responsible for slavery in some capacity.
But as far as Ukraine goes. Give me a fucking break. We owe them nothing. It's all about the western jihad against Russia.
No, just no. We already paid that bill, even though we never should have in the first place.
40 acres and a mule, and it got squandered under nothing but excuses of 'well it was bad land" or "we don't know how to farm", which all boiled down to the same thing -they just wanted handouts.
If you want to blame someone for slavery, blame the people who captured and sold the people. Were it not for slavers, slaves wouldn't be a thing.
I'm not blaming anyone alive today. I'm blaming the US. GOVERNMENT from that time. Again I don't think reparations are appropriate. I don't believe in them. I'm just saying that it would make more sense than sending it to Ukraine with zero over sight and no accountability.
How about neither of them making sense? That sort of "well I don't agree but I'll compromise and say it was wrong" attitude is the exact sort of rino horseshit that got us where we are now
That's not what I am doing. I'm just saying that sending all that money to Ukraine is arguably worse and that is all. With the lack of outrage in this country over that. Don't expect any pushback when it comes to reparations for lazy blacks.
The idea of reparations is exsctly Christian. I forgot the precise story, but there’s a story of a man who paid back money to someone he illicitly took money from. Not only did he return the money, he returned it sevenfold.
The man in the story realized what he did wrong and paid the money back willingly. It was purely between him and the person he wronged. However, what Commiefornia is suggesting is far from that. It’s taking money that was taken from citizens at gunpoint who did nothing wrong and giving it to people who never were wronged. It’s an absolute bastardization of what actual reparations is.
I don't think you and the guy you're replying to actually disagree. He's clearly saying that these kinds of reparations are anti-Christian, and you agree.
The Bible speaks of generational sin in Exodus 20:5, which states that "the iniquities of the fathers are visited upon the sons and daughters — unto the third and fourth generation."[3] This concept implicates that "unresolved issues get handed down from generation to generation", but that "Jesus is the bondage breaker ... [and] He is able to break the cycle of this curse, but only if we want Him to."
Jesus has rid us of the concept of ancestral curse.
Yeah, except we all know Jesus is at the very back of the minds of politicians
That's anti Christian.
The idea is not xian
Xianity pro slavery
Eph 6:5-6 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
renda unta LaQuisha what belong ta LaQuisha
xianity is very pro slavery
to the people in favor, that's a selling point
there is no practical end to this rabbit hole if allowed to be a precedent
besides Clarence Thomas kicking this concept to the dustbin of history of course ;)
I've always said I would entertain the idea of reparations if they could come up with a hard dollar figure after which we would drop the subject forever
of course that will never happen
He didn't win his election legally. Election Fraud doesn't could. The people of California are fucking retarded, they deserve what they get, because they are mentally ill.
There are more conservatives in CA than 3-4 southern states combined. Newscum frauded his recall.
This stunt is to get himself attention for running for president. Here's free shit, is all he's got
He doesn't need to run. Aunt Nancy is still in the picture and she'll make sure he gets in. Hell or High water. Kackles Harris should be very very afraid right about now.
Even in CA this is deeply unpopular. If that's the calculation, it's a miss.
There's nothing that can be done. Just like American conservatives did nothing when Biden stole the election So stfu you're no better. Youre just either born in another state or you had the ability to move. Neither is impressive
they always say the same thing: they can't do anything
so they don't
worthless conservatives that just stand around wringing their hands watching their state rot
At some point, we are supposed to run out of other people’s money, right?
Yeah, then the wholesale slaughter begins.
This is why the socialists want to confiscate your guns early, before the collapse of society and what Obama referred to as the "fundamental transformation" of our country.
They can just print more. It'll be fine.
California can't. But they will probably get federal bail-outs.
I thought California banned slavery.. Never had slaves?
LMAO... you are correct...It never had slaves under Mexican Rule, or the Few years as an independent Republic or as a State in the Union. During the time of slavery there were almost no African people in the state. "The first census recorded of African Americans in California appeared in 1850 with 962 people and 1860 with 4,086 people."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_California#:~:text=The%20first%20census%20recorded%20of%20African%20Americans%20in,escape%20Jim%20Crow%20in%20between%201940%20and%201970.
Rofl, it's the same as Biden pardoning the weed criminals. It doesn't apply to anyone
Correct... So they better read the fine print of this law.. Lol
Actually they did. In fact they had more slaves then any other “free” state.
On paper it was illegal, but in actuality it had tons of slaves, that’s why there was a sizable confederate presence there during the civil war.
the confederate presence in California was for Gold not because of slavery.
But you can’t deny that it wasn’t a factor.
In 1850 California was admitted to the Union as a free state. The Confederacy did not exist until 1861. Any Confederates in California was for the exact purpose of Stealing Gold from the Union. The purpose of reparations, as stated by the leftist, is to make amends for the INSTITUTION of slavery and to return the ill gotten economic gains that the state benefited from slavery. California never had written into law slavery and by the time the civil war started had almost no Africans in the state. So there is almost Zero African American Descendants effected by slavery in California.
They used slaves, I never said they were African slaves.
Chinese?
Native American.
Even so, how could you say they are legally entitled to a remedy for a legislative policy that was never in place?
You could just as easily say lots if companies employ "slaves" as under-the-table employees.
here is my source
They kidnapped natives and used them (I think, don’t quote me on that).
I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, but my point would still be valid even if that is true - slavery was never codified into the California constitution, so the state could not be held responsible as a defendant for an alleged criminal policy it never adopted nor implemented.
State-funded reparations is essentially an admission of guilt by the state government to the allegation of codifying slavery into legislative policy or officially being involved in the slave trade, which the state never was.
Therefore, the argument for state-funded slavery reparations is invalid.
YOU"RE A RACIERSTSS!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How about we just give black people California in exchange for never hearing about any of this bullshit ever again?
I’ve done some genealogy and I can document my descent from a black slave, my 9th great-grandfather. He was freed after fighting in the Revolutionary War, and married a white widow in New York. He was probably half white himself, because his male line descendants carry the Y chromosome of the prominent colonial family that freed him. Our family is white as they get and has been for many generations, so this discovery was rather startling to my older relatives.
You bet your ass I’ll be there with my hand out if they ever decide to do this foolishness nationwide.
Think about the numbers who will flock to Ancestry dot com to test their DNA, now who owns Ancestry again? On December 4, 2020, The Blackstone Group acquired the company in a deal valued at $4.7 billion. Yes, there are other companies but this is a popular one.
I think it was PBS that had a show where they did the genealogy of celebrities and told their ancestry story. They did Don Cheadle. He was literally upset to find out that his family was actually held by Native Americans. And as many found out the Native Americans held on to their slaves a bit longer after the Civil War. It was a whole thing that got people all riled up.
Isn't Don Cheadle the actor that wanted all racist Maga hat Trump supporters to "Die in a grease fire"?
I don't know. Probably.
I am almost certain he was. He made the comment in 2016-17.
Something tells me this will be based on skin color alone and not on actual heritage.
Time to invest in purple drank and watermelon farms
In other news, Footlocker to open 400 new stores in California, Hennessey opening 50 new distribution centers.
(and they all get looted and burned down before ever opening)
and hoody factories
Archived Source Article- https://archive.ph/Fb9uP
Source Article- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11491263/California-reparations-committee-recommend-handing-223-200-descendant-slaves.html
How many of the people applying for these handouts will be able to prove that they're descended from slaves?
This fucking retard is going to just start handing out free cash to every single person who shows up and asserts that there word alone is enough proof.
Well, you don't want to deny their truth, do you?!
Irish were also slaves. And Indians also took slaves
there were many more Irish slaves than black slaves
That would be rayciss
Good thing I identify as a slave. I can get mine too
I hope descendants of white irish slaves get theirs.
when did buying votes become legal in this country?
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Ok, let's just deduct all that section 8 housing assistance as a way to call it even. I'm pretty sure they'll end up owing more than what is never headed their direction.
Lottery winnings are always so life changing!!!
I'm sure this cash will be put to turning lives around!!!
Truly life changing!
(THIS IS PLANET OF THE APES LEVEL INSANITY!!!)
Looks like I'm moving to California for my gibs because my descendents were slaves to the Muslim hordes.
I believe that's what's known as a benepropism. The UK's descendants are pretty clearly going to be slaves to the Muslim hordes. Dearborn, Michigan, too.
I meant my ancestors lol.
You Armenian too?
Slav
Fine. But let's subtract backpay of every social program with interest.
and the food, clothing, housing and medical care the slaves were given
Most blacks don't know who their father is how are they gonna get their genealogy straight?
instead of a family tree, they have a family hedge
Now give the LA basin and it's surrounding mountains back to the Chumash and Tongva people... go ahead Newsom, I'll wait!
wouldn't it be cheaper to get them plane tickets back to Africa since they were descendants of people forcibly removed from their homeland?
I've said before than anyone who doesn't like the US should be given $100k and a one-way ticket to anywhere they want with the proviso they don't get to return unless they repay every penny.
Ah yes, California:
Who went from a $100b budget surplus (thanks to Fed Gov Covid handouts)...
To a $25b budget deficit in less than 2 years.
They can totally afford another $550b in unfunded liabilities!
This is totally not just another vote buying scam, bro! Believe us, this isn't another "student loan forgiveness" ... We really gonna gibs u $$$ dawg. Vote blue!
Okay, do the Irish next. They were treated far worse, for far longer, and did far more to build this country.
Biden can't even get 10k per person in student loan forgiveness so what makes Hairgel think he can pull this off?
200k per person
That's 1M for 5 people
That's 100M for 500 people
That's 1B for 5000 people
That's 100B for 50,000
That's 550B for 300k people.
There is 39M people in California
There is 331M people in USA
What an obscenely disproportionate distribution of taxpayer money. In makes socialism look good. This timeline is so fucked up, we are being governed by literal batman villains.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury.
-Alexander Tytler
I presume they will tax it. Then get the rest back in lottery proceeds.
A ha ha. That and dui fees!
I would be fine with this if then we could be settled. If then we would never hear about slavery or whatever again. If we could then blame them for the statistics they create.
But they will just ask for more.
the white ones too? or just the black ones?
This. There were actual White slaves in the Barbary states in North Africa. It's estimated 1 to 1.25 million European Christians were slaves from the 16th to 18th centuries.
that too! there were also tons of scottish kids and adults sold in the US slave trade. no one talks about it though because it ruins the narrative.
I think you are thinking of Irish. The Irish were actually sent in droves before the African slave trade really took off. The British wanted to get rid of all the filthy Catholics so something like 300k slaves were kidnapped and sent to the west Indies and what would eventually become the US. Also, a great deal of people came to the US as indentured servants which is what many of the African slaves came as as well but laws were made to prevent them from being released after their term.
that too, but many scottish, mainly poor were forcibly taken from Scotland and forced into slavery in America
The caucuses too. Turks ravaged those areas