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Final Arizona county certifies November elections, under court order (justthenews.com)
posted 60 days ago by Sea_Still 60 days ago by Sea_Still +1942 / -1
Final Arizona county certifies November elections, under court order
The board of supervisors for the state's rural Cochise County certified the results after a judge ordered them to do so by 5 p.m. Thursday.
justthenews.com
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– ProphetOfKek 418 points 60 days ago +419 / -1

So courts now basically certify elections

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– AnotherDeadVoter 388 points 60 days ago +390 / -2

Lake can now press forward with her lawsuit, which will get shot down immediately.

Only one way out of this, oh hey football season.

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– 20KAG20 148 points 60 days ago +149 / -1

Shot down because the counties certified the election!

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– CmonPeopleGetReal 69 points 60 days ago +72 / -3

No Remedy

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– Louis_1313 27 points 60 days ago +27 / -0

That’s where you’re wrong kiddo 😎

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– MAGAMyNagga 11 points 60 days ago +14 / -3

2 more weeks

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– CheapChinesePlastic 13 points 60 days ago +13 / -0

Flynn has a kraken right guys?

... guys?

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– tree_sloth4 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

I think Sidney Powell has a kraken that will shake our whole country. But we have to wait two weeks for her to release it.

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– patrioticwinning3 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

No this time its Lake :p

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– POTUS_DonnieJ 10 points 60 days ago +10 / -0

There’s only one remedy. And the last time its been [successfully] attempted was August 1-2 1946. We’re long overdue for a redux.

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– Inquisitor_Corvus 6 points 60 days ago +6 / -0

Battle of Athens.

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– unicornpoop 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

But muh 401K...

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– PostmasterGeneral 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

If they appeal the election is forced to decertify

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– slokill 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

No standing - just a guess

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– Epstein_was_MOSSAD 0 points 60 days ago +1 / -1

The remedy is 90% depopulation and an eternal prison planet.

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– bringbackthe80s 43 points 60 days ago +43 / -0

Yet she can't file the lawsuit until after certification.

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– nozonozo 46 points 60 days ago +46 / -0

The answer to the fraud will not be found in the so called justice system.

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– SuitableHumanSoul 21 points 60 days ago +21 / -0

it will be found in the ammo box but too bad i think it will be way, way too late. the trap door will be shut forever and i can guarantee trump wont win 2024 because they have fortified the fraud elections in those big swing states.

as i said, he wont win 2024 if 2020 + 2022 isnt solved. now its even worse.

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– TD_Covfefe_Crusader 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Clearly.

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– Standingoak 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

It has been Just-Us for ALL since 1860

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– Prometheus76 16 points 60 days ago +16 / -0

It's almost like they planned how to steal elections ahead of time!

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– DickTick 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

This has always been a fact....

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– TD_Covfefe_Crusader 14 points 60 days ago +14 / -0

Before certification = no standing

After certification = moot

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– bringbackthe80s 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

Exactly!

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– GontMawr 12 points 60 days ago +12 / -0

Catch 2022

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– TD_Covfefe_Crusader 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

Moot. No standing.

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– sully 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Muh latches!

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– BurtMcGirt 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

You're probably right

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– deleted 67 points 60 days ago +69 / -2
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– TakingBackCA 27 points 60 days ago +31 / -4

Query then: if we are in “last box territory,” who’s going to be first?

No one wants to be first. There’s too much tasty food to eat and balls to watch being thrown around on tv.

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– Zepp87 29 points 60 days ago +29 / -0

Mostly, I have a family to care about and take care of. If I'm first and nobody follows will anyone help them? No, they won't.

I'm absolutely worthless to our cause if I'm in jail waiting for the boogaloo to really start. As are you and everyone on here.

If it pops off the support is there. Nobody wants to be first, some for the reasons you said, others because it's an absolute waste if the people aren't behind you as well.

I think we are still a few years away from this going down. It's inevitable though.

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– TakingBackCA 12 points 60 days ago +13 / -1

That might be the key takeaway: many have the will, but there would be no follow up.

In looking at history, I think it’s much longer than a few years, a few decades is more like it.

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– Taco_of_Kiev 3 points 60 days ago +4 / -1

In looking at history, I think it’s much longer than a few years, a few decades is more like it.

I’ve been in this fight since the late 90s, more vigorously since the Tea Party. It’s been decades.

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– ryry117 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there will always be some who want to rise up. It doesn't mean anything substantial. You've been in the vast minority, now you aren't. So now the timer really ticks and we need to wait decades for things to fall apart and actually affect peoples' daily lives.

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– Cantshadowbanthemall 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

That support and action exists for the Marxists and that is why they've "won"

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– GorillaTactics 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

They’ve had their backs covered by the lawyers and the institutions since the ‘70s. Hell, the lady who set off a bomb in the capitol, Susan Rosenberg, had her sentence hugely commuted by Bill Clinton himself, and went right back to work as a major leader in BLM. Read “Days of Rage” by Bryan Burrough of you want to raise your blood pressure even more when you find out this stuff has been allowed to go on since the 70s

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– Cantshadowbanthemall 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Bilderburg wants centralized power and taxation for grift and corruption

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– Kholland65 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

The issue is things just haven’t gotten bad enough. Once people have nothing to lose then that’s when you get massive revolt, because people see jail or death is a worthy sacrifice compared to living in abject poverty and complete oppression.

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– Kornilovist 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

Completely false. There is no successful revolt in the modern history that began this way or for this reason.

You're believing propaganda myths written after the fact by the victors.

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– GorillaTactics 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Yup, once things get to that point, historically, the population tends to curl up, cower, and wait to be genocided. China:present day and since Tinanamem, Cambodia: the Khmer Rouge, Soviet Union, Vietnam, Venezuela, Tutsis in Rwanda, South African Farmers and plenty of other examples throughout history. Letting it get to that point is suicidal. Forefathers certainly didn’t.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Insurgencies don't last days. They last decades.

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– GorillaTactics 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Yup. Look into the one that is still going on in Liberia since just after the US civil war ended

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– VoidWanderer 7 points 60 days ago +9 / -2

And by the time the cheap food and sportsball is yanked away it'll be too late to do anything. That's the ironic part. The ones pulling all this know human nature despite everything they're doing contrary to it and know how best to keep the masses in line to advance their goals.

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– ryry117 1 point 60 days ago +2 / -1

It's never too late. Look at the Soviet Union. It fell to corrupt infighting, not citizen revolt. A tyrannical system fundamentally cannot last.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

It fell to western sabotage. We know now the West was sabotaging all the tech itnwas sending them, it was sanctioning the economy, starving it of any tech that wasn't already sabotaged and challenging it to nuclear war with CIA staged provocations the whole time.

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– GorillaTactics 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Honestly curious, do you have any examples of this sabotaged tech? I grew up being told they just stole all the tech they had from the west and made it their own. Nukes being the most egregious example. They just couldn’t keep up with the IS economically and get the same consistent precision so went for high volume instead.

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– FormerGraveheart 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Which sounds familiar.

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– True_Curmudgeon 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

State governors with the resources of a conservative state need to be the first to take a stand and rally individual patriots.

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– Kornilovist 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Already compromised by the FBI.

They ran the state houses before they ran both parties in Washington.

This was happening 35 years ago, imagine how deep the control is now.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho

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– EvanGRogers 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

The best thing to do is to move to a rational state, demand secession, and watch your old home burn itself down.

Or, y'know, minecraft

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– BlackPilledMAGA 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

I love it how so many people assume sports is what's holding others back. Sports must be really important to the people making those assumptions.

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– PFF_deplorable 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Nope, I just see the idiots around me that eat, breath, and sleep sports ball. It consumes every aspect of their lives. And there is a lot of them.

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– MasklessMarvel 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

you people and your complete ignorance of the basic legal principle of standing are laughable

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– GodDamnedEngineer 27 points 60 days ago +29 / -2

SPORTSBALL! MY TEAMS BETTER THAN YOUR TEAM!

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– ProphetOfKek 11 points 60 days ago +14 / -3

But what does muh Tucker have to say about all this? We gotsta reach muh normies!

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– DickTick 0 points 60 days ago +3 / -3

He literally has the biggest show on television and the numbers don't lie about his reach.....

You can doom all you want to but Trump is at a 84% win rate on his endorsements while Obama is the next highest with a 66% win rate.......

Anyone who can't see just how many wins we've had recently, amongst the very few losses, is just a fucking retard.... Sure the lake fraud loss hurts, but we literally predicted that before the elections even happened......

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– ProphetOfKek 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

And how many of those seats won even needed his endorsement? Meanwhile all the others that were hotly contested have lost or are about to (Lake, Walker, etc).

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +2 / -1

You're an idiot.

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– user365927285937 0 points 60 days ago +1 / -1

Who the fuck are you to call other people “idiot”, you sniveling little faggot? I’ve had to suffer through your dumbass nonsense posts half a dozen times in this thread alone. Your opinions are dogshit, your intellect is comparable to a Somalian and your personality is nonexistent. Fuck right off you pathetic piece of shit.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Ha ha, methinks thou dost protest far too much user365....

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– MN_RED_2024 8 points 60 days ago +9 / -1

What day is the Super Ball this year bro

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– Sea_Still [S] 88 points 60 days ago +89 / -1

Stolen elections

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– RumorControl 68 points 60 days ago +68 / -0

What the hell is the point of having people certify anything if some court tells you your only job is to be a yesman?? Fuck the courts and string up all the lawyers who snidely nod “oh that’s just the way the rules work too bad kid”

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– SHILL_DETECTOR 31 points 60 days ago +33 / -2

literally there is no solution to any possible fraud

it just cant be challenged

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– deleted 22 points 60 days ago +26 / -4
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– TakingBackCA 11 points 60 days ago +12 / -1

You can absolutely talk about it. They are giddy at the idea of talk.

What they don’t want you to do is organize.

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– phzoe 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

Keep giving a pass to the Christian Left and you'll never figure out what is happening.

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– Taco_of_Kiev 4 points 60 days ago +5 / -1

And by christian left, you are referring of course to the church of satanic Christianity.

It is still hard to compute how the Catholic Church removed Benedict and installed an avowed communist heretic as the Holy See.

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– MasklessMarvel 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

like the rest of the impotent xian churches are doing a fucking thing to help

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– phzoe 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

I'm talking about Christian communists.

https://mises.org/library/roots-messianic-communism

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

With US intelligence service help.

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– MasklessMarvel -1 points 60 days ago +1 / -2

no racism

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– RumorControl 4 points 60 days ago +6 / -2

Source?

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– SHILL_DETECTOR 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

when has it ever been challenged successfully?

battle of athens?

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– CrackerJack2 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Free Electrons ---> Free Elections

 

The answer to our problem is copious amounts of free electrons. The only thing the politicians fear are static charges, as freedom will only reign again when ALL COMPUTERIZED VOTING MACHINES AND SCANNERS ARE DEAD.
 

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– SHILL_DETECTOR 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

i didnt pay to vote!

actually we do pay to vote...we pay the taxes for the system to even exist

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– henri_derelicte 7 points 60 days ago +7 / -0

The certification process is a rubber stamp. Serious question; when was the last time an election wasn’t certified?

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– Lesko_Badcop 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Isn't supposed to be...

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– bidensmissingbrain 6 points 60 days ago +6 / -0

Because, in the even a lawsuit is allowed to proceed, they now have a scapegoat to pin things on (the county officials who certified) instead of bringing the actual criminals to justice.

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– SteveRogers42 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

The members of the board should have resigned immediately, rather than being forced to certify this $#!t.

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– trumpetgirl 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Actually, if that demon Katie Hobgoblin had been a trustworthy candidate, she should have resigned when she decided to run for AZ governor. Refusal to step down and instead oversee one's own election is pretty dastardly, to say the least.

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– PeterO 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Reminds me of 'No child left behind'. One of the early steps in obliterating merit from society.

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– ProphetOfKek 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

More accurate.

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– SaltyKrakenBalls 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Have Muuuhh Consequences...

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– Alarm_1 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Don't have consequences. Clearly.

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– SaltyKrakenBalls 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

AZ border towns beg to differ.

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– Alarm_1 2 points 59 days ago +2 / -0

I meant for the people that stole it.

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– TD_Covfefe_Crusader 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Stollen.

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– johnparker 46 points 60 days ago +48 / -2

Soap box ineffective. Ballot box ineffective. Jury box looks like it is failing. So where does that leave us?

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– Justsomeguy322 47 points 60 days ago +47 / -0

It won't stop until we start hanging some of them. Just like they use jail for us common folk to attempt to reduce crime.. if they aren't punished for their treason they will keep committing it

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– Luvs_2_Bop 14 points 60 days ago +14 / -0

This is the way

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– Johnrgalt 10 points 60 days ago +10 / -0

Battle of Athens is how we handled it in the past.

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– Liberty49220 3 points 60 days ago +4 / -1

Unless/until the SHTF, 75% of the population will strongly oppose takeovers and gun battles and any attempt will fail. There are nonviolent options we haven't seriously pursued: prolonged and large protests (see Brazil), crippling the economy by withholding our talents (cf. Atlas Shrugged) and peaceful disobedience (India independence from Britain). None of these will come about until a critical mass of people understand what is happening. For every person that would seriously consider participating in violence, 100 more will come to a protest.

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– Justsomeguy322 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

I get what you're saying.. but I also know that it only takes a few million people to make a change because like you said, most of the population will just go along to get along. I hear a lot of "just have patience, it will get bad enough and reach a critical mass". But the reality is that human beings are able to adapt to situations. See the CCP lockdowns in China. Eventually the state, with the help of technology, will be able to quell unrest and squelch speech; ideas nearly totally. Like the boiling frogs metaphor.. they push shit on us, walk some of it back, get us used to it, then repeat cycle.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

All of those require a state a fraction as powerful as the Feds. None of that will ever materialize against the propaganda and dollar empire behind globohomo.

All they will do is freeze bank accounts, just like Canada. Those protesting will roll back to zero over night. It remains to be seen if it will even work in Brazil with the support of the standing president.

You know who did beat globohomo though?

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– Liberty49220 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

who - Trump?

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– Kornilovist 0 points 60 days ago +1 / -1

Go back over the headlines and I think you'll find the answer.

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– samross 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

the idiots who upvote your profoundly retarded comment and downvote mine have no actual arguments...

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– samross -15 points 60 days ago +2 / -17

you mean hanging someone without a trial, or.. how exactly do you envision this working? And who's "them" from "hanging some of them" ?

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– Foomer 6 points 60 days ago +10 / -4

GLOW

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– samross -1 points 60 days ago +0 / -1

really? Cause I'm asking him to expand on his primitive idea? Eat shit please and see if you glow

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– Foomer -1 points 60 days ago +1 / -2

Spoken like a typical fed faggot

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– samross 1 point 59 days ago +1 / -0

this is gratuitous agitation on your part.. what about my comments strikes you as fed-like? The fact that I think everyone deserves justice? it would do my heart so good to bash your fucking brains in with a bat you worthless piece of shit

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– Justsomeguy322 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Fair. Blanket statements doesn't help win support. And not without trial.. but we see that justice escapes those who deserve it most. From pedos in California, to violent criminals in NYC, to those in D.C., the alphabet agencies, D.O.D.

There is clear evidence that fauci lied about the origins, the efficacy of the jab. You have Christopher Wray lying to congress, breaking the law to spy on American citizens, Mayorkas (sp) letting our nation be invaded, drugs crossing the border, sex trafficking, human labor trafficking, etc. Biden for selling our nation out to Russia, Ukraine, China. McConnell for his alliance with the CCP through his wife's father and their shipping company. Trying to nail Kyle Rittenhouse to the wall but letting a Leftist in Colorado walk after he killed a Trump supporter. Letting leftists destroy our country under Trump and encouraging that insurrection. Locking Trump supporters in jail for over a year with no speedy trial. Lying about the pipe bomber, lying about having Feds in the crowd, denying more law enforcement that Trump wanted on Jan 6th.

It will continue until they are made an example of.

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– novanleon -2 points 60 days ago +3 / -5

This place is full of idiots.

People that talk big but won't do anything themselves.

People who don't think about the consequences of the actions they propose.

People who are so desperate that they latch onto anything that tickles their ears, no matter how irrational.

People so insecure, they smear and label anyone who disagrees with their accepted narrative.

It's sad to see the state of the Right, right now.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +2 / -1

Anything worth doing starts with talk.

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– novanleon 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

So does anything NOT worth doing.

Talk is cheap.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 60 days ago +2 / -1

The internet is for talking. So that's all you'll ever see here.

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– 20KAG20 18 points 60 days ago +18 / -0

Jury box has failed. Look at 2020

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– henri_derelicte 11 points 60 days ago +11 / -0

Now is the time where we focus more on outcomes than processes. We couldn’t stop the Dems at the ballot box. But, Dems are mortal and can be stopped by bullets

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– jml1997 10 points 60 days ago +15 / -5

Voting harderer

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– BoatingAccident 8 points 60 days ago +11 / -3

2weeks

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– Prussian_Pepe 3 points 60 days ago +5 / -2

And look at all the winning! I'm so tired of winning all the time! Just 2 moar years then you can donate more money and campaign for someone else who will loose to fraud again. Keep doing this while being boiled alive little plebs. Big energy incoming!!!! 😒

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– elmerecido 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

B00m

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– Gunmolester 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

make MEMEs?

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– Error404 13 points 60 days ago +13 / -0

They also make legislation … as we saw in 2020

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– ModernKnight 12 points 60 days ago +12 / -0

And 2014, where they proclaimed the punishment for not going on Obamacare was a tax instead of a penalty, despite the lawyers defending Obamacare stating it was a penalty instead of a tax.

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– Taco_of_Kiev 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

Thanks John Roberts, you child raping sonofabitch.

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– cupocovfefe 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

But standing?!

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– Foomer 49 points 60 days ago +52 / -3

Voting in the midterms was just LARPING a functional republic.

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– Lesko_Badcop 18 points 60 days ago +19 / -1

This. It's all a fucking show at this point.

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– Prussian_Pepe 17 points 60 days ago +18 / -1

Let's just drop the pretense that we're living in a representative republic.

That would give normies and excuse to revolt though. Because there is no more "muh demonacracy". Even though there has been no representative republic for a long time, it exists only in name. But it's the illusion of it keeps morals in line.

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– Assassin47 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

it's the illusion of it

That's the point of Liberal Democracy.

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– heeeeeeemeyer 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Keeping up appearances

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– ufkyflflfguio 1 point 60 days ago +3 / -2

Where you been since 2000?

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– 45ForEver2024 -18 points 60 days ago +8 / -26

In Arizona it is law that it is certified. There is no mechanic not to certify.

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– here2red 27 points 60 days ago +27 / -0

Exactly. What is the point of all those meetings and crap? This country is so stupid. Just a bunch of over-regulated nonsense. Giving people jobs who dont need it.

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Paychecks. The point is to have more people getting more paychecks from more tax dollars. Pipe down now, you’re sounding like a threat to our democracy (TM)

Now please donate A LOT to Herschel Walker and the RNC for the Georgia runoff because surely that whole thing is legit.

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– MAGA_MyPillow 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

the board should have stated that We "Certify" that the results are incorrect.

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– Assassin47 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

The board members should have resigned.

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– MAGA_MyPillow 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

that would work too

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– henri_derelicte 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

So it’s a rubber stamp

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– Lesko_Badcop 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

You don't understand what "certify" means. Look it up.

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– Concerned__Citizen 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

certify sûr′tə-fī″ intransitive verb

  1. To confirm formally as true, accurate, or genuine.
  2. To guarantee as meeting a standard.
  3. To acknowledge in writing on the face of (a check) that the signature of the maker is genuine and that there are sufficient funds on deposit for its payment.

Nope, nope, and NOPE!

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– Assassin47 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Like Judas Pence, right? That makes total sense!

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– kestral 111 points 60 days ago +111 / -0

If there's no option to not certify it, why even have a certification process?

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– mainsoda 51 points 60 days ago +52 / -1

To try and make invalid elections look official.

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– Lesko_Badcop 12 points 60 days ago +12 / -0

It's an artifact of the past...like when somebody says they'll "tape" something on TV when they are really digitally recording it. I've realized the whole "election" thing we do has been a sham for a very long time. Trump won because the Uniparty was so overconfident they didn't even bother cheating to a significant degree, so he squeaked by.

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– fazaman 69 points 60 days ago +69 / -0

What is the value of a 'certification' that is compelled?

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– Hanging_Chad 18 points 60 days ago +18 / -0

in 2018 or 2022 dollars? either way, negative something

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– Krat 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Or when the wr9ng candidate wins

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– AbolishTheFed 39 points 60 days ago +40 / -1

If only the courts had such a sense of urgency with counting the ballots.

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– Prussian_Pepe 8 points 60 days ago +9 / -1

As if the courts work to uphold the law... It's pretty clear they work to uphold the will of the ones who pay them the most.

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– MAGA1774 35 points 60 days ago +41 / -6

Just vote harder.....2 more weeks.....blah blah blah

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– AnotherDeadVoter 22 points 60 days ago +22 / -0

They sure found a damn easy fix for the inperson voting.

No paper. Broken machines. Long lines. Close the doors at closing time and everyone outside were too late to vote.

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– day221 6 points 60 days ago +6 / -0

They've been doing this for a while. It was the original reason they used to get people to support early voting and vote by mail. They create long lines and make it a hassle to vote on election day. Rather than do the obvious and have more polling locations (i.e. increase the supply due to high demand) they use it to push for alternate voting methods that are less secure.

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– JimmyNelson 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

What is the point of the certification process if a Judge can just order it done?

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– LibertyStillMatters 33 points 60 days ago +33 / -0

You’d figure a county forced to certify a dubious (at best) election under threat of jail time would wake up the last few Americans still sleep walking that we have free and fair elections. Did Arizona wake up those not there yet? I hope so. Rasmussen said about 59% of Americans felt fraud played a part in 2020 elections. What’s that percentage now in2022 with the bullshit in Arizona?

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– AOCDickPics 10 points 60 days ago +11 / -1

Supposedly it's above 70% now.

I'm furious about it. But Arizona residents aren't doing dick about it.

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– Cetera -5 points 60 days ago +2 / -7

What would you have the young men of AZ do? Riot? Fight in the streets? Who would they fight? Just start shooting random gov't officials?

A big problem is that there is no community left to defend. The young and able-bodied who would pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor would have to desire to fight for:

A.) Those who continue to claim they are "owed" something for paying into a tax/ponzi scheme like they weren't aware of the court cases stating it was just a tax and a ponzi scheme, and they're going to take it out of the hides of the younger generation come hell or high water, and then talk out of the other side of their mouth about the evils of socialism and free-loaders when it comes to a debt jubilee (biblical, mandated) to predatory student loans that enslave and cannot and will not ever be paid back.

B.) e-thots selling everything, and I do mean literally everything, online and who will never make good wives.

C.) foreigners who don't speak the language, don't understand the culture, and have no desire to ever integrate with America and are only here to take as much loot from it as they can.

D.) the baby-killers and wannabe baby-killers

E.) those that advocate for and push all manner of sexual deviancy

F.) those that advocate for and do mutilate children's sexual organs while claiming it is "life-affirming care."

G.) the 13% that commit 52% of violent crimes

H.) the 2% that run all the banks, media conglomerates, big tech, and high offices

 

There's barely anyone left to fight for. Even showing up to "protest" will get you thrown in a political gulag for years and ignored by the one person who asked you to protest, told you where to go, abandoned you, and didn't pardon you when he could have.

Tell me, why should anyone sacrifice anything in that circumstance, for those people?

When people turn back to Christ, strong men willing to defend their families, their communities, their churches, and their people will again arise. Until that time, good luck. God has withdrawn His sheltering hand, and everyone will get what they've always advocated for, good and hard.

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Now who’s blaspheming by attributing a statement to God that He never made. “God helps those who help themselves” is Christianese pseudo self help BS. Nowhere has God ever said that.

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I haven't blamed everyone for turning from Christ. I said that when everyone turns back to Christ, these problems will be solved. There's a BIG difference.

God is capable of delivering justice without punishing innocent people.

Absolutely.

He chooses not to.

Categorically false.

He lets innocent people suffer all the time,

Yes, of course. This, also, is axiomatic. If you don't understand this, you have no hope of understanding anything about Christianity. Suffering is not evil.

he also permits evil to triumph.

Seemingly so, for a time. Of course, what you perceive as a triumph for evil, God usually perceives differently.

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– yuugefan 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

I'm a devout Christian, but your last argument of what people perceive as evil is not a good argument. There is a finite evil and good. We have God as our example of good and light to see evil. "Percieved evil" = Relativism IMHO. The rest of your argument is mostly true though. That said, the forefathers could easily be counted as Christian AND they waged war against England

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– Cetera 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

You're misreading and misunderstanding what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with moral relativism, which is a grave evil.

Humans perceive the extreme punishment of the innocent in the Crucifixion of the Paschal Lamb, the Son of God, the blameless, perfectly innocent one, as an evil.

The Crucifixion appeared to be the ultimate triumph of evil. It wasn't.

The Crucifixion was the ultimate triumph of God. It is, was, and will be the ultimate sacrifice, the culmination of all of the Old Testament and the Covenants. It led immediately to the Resurrection, the conquering of death, the conquering of sin, and the salvation of humanity.

However, there was no way for those present to see the Crucifixion that way. It wasn't an evil. The people involved behaved evilly, but even they were converted in it. The Centurion who lanced the side of Christ even exclaimed out, "Truly this man was the Son of God."

The point is that what we perceive to be evil events may not be. God's strength is generally the opposite of what we corporeal creatures perceive as strength. Christ conquered through humility, and being humiliated. Humility is the strongest strength, not the weakest weakness. It seems contrary to common sense and all of our experience, but that is only because we don't see the whole picture and we don't understand everything that is going on.

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– yuugefan 1 point 59 days ago +1 / -0

Great summation, truly, but your missing something Jesus said it is finished. John 19:30 (biblehub.com for all references). What was finished? Paul says he made a spectacle of principalities; "Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it." Colossians 2:15 NKJV (many scholars take this term "principalities" as fallen angels/ demons). This means the text littleraly said He Triumphed over demons (evil). I get what your saying, but I think you're missing the point. What they did to Jesus WAS evil. They lied during his unjust hearing before the high priest which was breaking their commandments and against their own law. That's pretty evil, but then they went on to beat Him, an innocent Person, which was evil. They blasphemed Him and then, after abusing Him, hung Him on the cross. These are Very evil things objectively. However, the Bible says God is in control and that He can turn anything to good. They rejected the chief corner stone, but we are saved through their rejection. I know that those nails didn't hold Him and he ordained it all from the beginning but god was able to use our mistakes for all good..

In other words, God can litterly turn everything to good and that's what he'd did you to save

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So He can’t stop anything He wants? He is not capable of intervention? Imagine how much pain and suffering He could have stopped if He just left a marble on the top step at Fauci’s house? Maybe bunch up some carpet?

Ah, the wail of the mental midget who someday dreams of rising to the lofty levels of a midwit.

God DOESN'T punish innocents. Ever. Not for any reason. Not even once.

You can't understand that because you can't understand why God ALLOWS suffering.

A) Suffering isn't punishment.

B) Suffering isn't evil. In fact, suffering is often good.

C) Suffering is necessary.

Tell that to the poor kids who visited Epstein’s Island. If that’s not evil, what is it, a free trip to Life Lesson Land?

Oh, look, confusing criminal actions and evil actions with the abstract concept of "suffering" and then trying to square that as God being evil, as well as confusing guilt, culpability, cause and effect, harm/injury vs. suffering, etc.

Tell me, where did God touch you on Epstein's island?

YOU know how God perceives things? Amazing.

It isn't difficult. It is laid out for you in pretty simple language in a really old book. Humans have had this figured out for a couple of millennia now. I'm sure even you could grasp it if you applied yourself.

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– Emodius 2 points 60 days ago +3 / -1

Well since democrats won they don't give a fuck to the message is lost on the 17 percent of the country that actually is Democrat

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– 45ForEver2024 -5 points 60 days ago +2 / -7

But they are not certify Maricopa's election. they are certifying their own. Or are you saying that Cochise county had FRAUD happen?

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– LibertyStillMatters 10 points 60 days ago +10 / -0

Yes, they are certifying their own, not Maricopa’s of course. The concern for Cochise and the other precious hold-out, was that by certifying their own with the magnitude of problems in Maricopa, it could be voter disenfranchisement. And I agree. If you run a clean election, but are a smaller county (by voter), and you have an enormous county like Maricopa, creating ballots out of addresses that are empty lots, votes for people at addresses they don’t live at, people voting multiple times due to changing a zip code two, giving greater scrutiny to GOP ballots and every other dirty and fraudulent trick in the book, smaller counties will have a smaller share of voter weight. It’s voter disenfranchisement.

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– DaBirdisDaWord 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

This strategy should be pursued in all the swing states (those with fraud, ie Georgia & Fulton county, Michigan @ Detroit, Arizona & Maricopa, etc etc). Even if you live in a red county whose election was seemingly above-board and of little consequence to the state’s results, we should be pressuring people on those boards not to certify if the fraud in the cities goes unaddressed. Furthermore, we need to get patriots on these boards who will go to jail for the cause. Now is the time for us to learn about our local election boards and to prepare for 2024.

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– Patriots_dont_kneel 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Well, in that case the court was right. Cochise county's job isn't to investigate problems in Maricopa county's election. Their job is to produce a accurate tally for their county and certify the result. Intentionally blocking that for political activism purposes is definitely illegal. If a county has the ability to single-handedly grind an election certification to a halt with no consequences, what's stopping the bluest county in every state from doing that every single time they lose an election?

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– here2red 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

Or are you saying that Cochise county had FRAUD happen

That isnt the point. What if it had? What were the residents of Cochise county supposed to do? Obviously nothing according to Katie Hobbs and the fraud board of supervisors. So what is point having a board of supervisors. What exactly are they "supervising"

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– Emodius 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

The certification of the entire election is held up by one county not doing it

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– Lesko_Badcop 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Exactly! Too bad they caved.

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– Emodius 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Yeah but I also heard a rumor we would have lost a representative if they kept it up so they may have done us a favor. Also it stalled lakes lawsuit since you can't sue until the election is certified

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– Justsomeguy322 24 points 60 days ago +27 / -3

So revolution is our only choice anymore.

We cannot pick our politicians, we've know this for years... but we used to believe it was just presidents..

This is our country. Representation or else

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– PromiseImNotASpook 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

It has been the only choice for a long time.

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– ubermk3 21 points 60 days ago +21 / -0

This all happened because the county governments fear the establishment, not the people. Nothing will change until that changes.

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– RedPillosopher1776 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

No this happened because people won't accept the truth and prefer to instead continue on as though anything meaningful will come through the corrupted system.

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– Purple_Drank 15 points 60 days ago +16 / -1

when does the shooting start? Are the citizens of Cochise content with this outcome?

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– henri_derelicte 11 points 60 days ago +11 / -0

The solution here isn’t to take it out on Cochise County officials. Instead, it’s a better use of time and bullets to go to Maricopa County and neutralize Katie Hobbs, Mark Kelly, etc.

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– thisisatestof2 15 points 60 days ago +15 / -0

This is some Third World level corruption. The person on the ballot, who controls the election, seeking higher office, gets to dictate how counties handle the results of the election. This is no different than when Saddam Hussein claimed they had a free democratic election and got 99.9% of the vote.

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– Tophat9000 11 points 60 days ago +14 / -3

Tis country has completed it journey to corrupt 3th world dictatorship....

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– Deltamyass 10 points 60 days ago +10 / -0

Welcome to your one world government. They choose, not us

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– blueeyephoto 10 points 60 days ago +10 / -0

why have elections if the counties, mandated to conduct them fairly, cannot withhold certification for elections that have issues?

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– Sea_Still [S] 7 points 60 days ago +7 / -0

We don't have elections we have ballot gathering competitions

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– Lesko_Badcop 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

It's not really even a competition, is it?

It's more like watching a Harlem Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals game.

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– DinosaurAlert 9 points 60 days ago +9 / -0

I don't care if you think the Arizona elections were 100% perfectly done.

If the process requires certification, but they're allowed to threaten the people certifying it with arrest, then there is no real security process and democracy is a joke.

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– IForgotToAddAnEmail 8 points 60 days ago +8 / -0

If the court and order an election certified, how come they couldn't investigate the fraud and have it uncertified?

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– Ocineaa 6 points 60 days ago +6 / -0

So..... That's it then? Un fucking believable.

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– Dev404 6 points 60 days ago +6 / -0

If this isn't resolved properly, Trump has no chance in 2024. No democrat governor is going to allow Trump to win and RINO governors are onboard with that.

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– kornesque 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

So the county didn't certify, the court did.

Got it.

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– CmonGubMintGibMe 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

Dems just ignore the courts....our side caves to them immediately.

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– MAGA_wont_quit 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

Even though it is weaponized against us, we are the party of law & order... honk, honk.

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– DRKMSTR 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

This sets precedent.

If a court can order certification, courts can also order nullification.

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– sully 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

Courts have always been able to rule nullification if the legal grounds are there.

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– y_do_i_need_to_hide 5 points 60 days ago +6 / -1

Why would anyone pay taxes?

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– heeeeeeemeyer 5 points 60 days ago +5 / -0

I'm a salaried employee. I don't "pay" taxes, they steal it before I get the money.

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– y_do_i_need_to_hide 0 points 60 days ago +1 / -1

Im making plans to avoid this.

They rule with our consent, or not at all. :)

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– Taco_of_Kiev 2 points 60 days ago +2 / -0

I’d have to work 100+ hours under the table to take home what I make in salary for 36 hours. It pisses me off when I look at my paystub, but I’ve got 10 more years until hermit time.

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– henri_derelicte 5 points 60 days ago +6 / -1

If you think Hobbs is illegitimate and a tyrant, don’t give her regime legitimacy. Stop paying taxes. Take up arms if you need to. The Dems won’t take us seriously until there is blood in the streets

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Well, since they got to see what happened in 2020 I foolishly assumed they'd have some sort of plan ahead of time to mitigate the fraud.

I mean seriously...they knew exactly what was coming and their plan was...what?

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What is the Judges name?

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Judge Joe Brown?

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– SigSauer1776 0 points 60 days ago +1 / -1

Joe M?

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– MAK90 4 points 60 days ago +7 / -3

Babylon has fallen

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– doomerglowie 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

"The courts have made their decision. Let's see them enforce it"

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– MythArcana 4 points 60 days ago +5 / -1

We are now a communist country.

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– Foomer 4 points 60 days ago +8 / -4

Cucks.

Fucking coward cucks. Certified a stolen election because muh court order. Meanwhile states ingnore the SCOTUS about the 2A.

Wake up people! They are trying to control and kill you.

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– gabisfreespeech 1 point 60 days ago +1 / -0

I think we know

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– Foomer -1 points 60 days ago +2 / -3

Too bad people are still distracted by porn, fast food and sports ball.

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– 45ForEver2024 -1 points 60 days ago +1 / -2

Doomers are going to doom.

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– Foomer -2 points 60 days ago +2 / -4

How will Trump win in 2024? Lol

"They spied on my campaign!"

"The 2020 election was stolen!"

"The 2022 midterms were stolen!"

"Vote super hard in 2024! Miss me yet folks?"

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– TheTrain 4 points 60 days ago +5 / -1

3RD 🌍....... What is it everyone

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– Light_HIV_Effect 4 points 60 days ago +4 / -0

No lawsuits, the election has already been certified, No standing!

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– GOLDNSQUID 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Why bother with the certification if they are forced to? Seems like a waste of time.

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– j2zoom 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Why do we have a certification process if it can be circumvented?

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– Joshua55 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

Certify or rot in prison with the J6 patriots protesting the Nov3 2020 rigged and stolen election.

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– BobT 3 points 60 days ago +3 / -0

So certifying has nothing to do with the accuracy of the results.

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