You have a lot of people who have stupidly taken the position of "I don't like Ukraine, therefore Russia is my BFF" and will swallow any amount of slavic cum around here, but realistically the Russian military actually really wasn't all-that. It's simply old, obsolete, and Russia never had the money to maintain it. I imagine a shitload of corruption and theft was happening giving the Kremlin a false idea of the status of forces.
There's a lot of shit you can see on even pro-Russia telegram channels that indicates that they don't got this. Consider this: in the first hour of the 2003 Iraq War, the US completely defeated their entire country. Precision strikes across the nation utterly destroyed all their reserve ammo, fuel, and equipment. It wiped out all their C3 centers. It flattened their decision-making centers. Iraq had one of the strongest militaries in the world and they were utterly defeated.
It's been 10 months and Russia is still struggling to even hold the 20% of the country they took. They've never made any meaningful progress in the eastern theater, what they did take, they surrendered and ran from. They've never had control of the skies, and are clearly afraid of losing aircraft to AD systems, because their aircraft barely fly beyond their lines before firing a bunch of unguided rockets that hit nothing and running.
Russia's been having a bitch of a time fighting entrenched Ukrainians because Russia has almost no advanced weapons. They are using impact-fused artillery against trenches, like it's WW1. It's comical how quaint their tactics and equipment are. Russia has no ISR capabilities, like, none, because they never bothered to invest in a drone program. For real, they didn't have a single drone, they're using DJI Phantoms and moped-powered drones from Iran. The T-80 and T-90 are just T-62s with upgrades, it's still an old, flawed, deathtrap of a design.
Watch enough Telegram channels and you'll quickly realize that Russia simply has a massive shortage of modern gear. For example, you can see night vision devices on half the pictures of any American in Afghanistan or Iraq. Russia has so few of these you almost never see them and they only get used for exotic ops. They're struggling to land more than a few actual guided missiles a month, suggesting that they don't have them in reserve and they're firing them as they slowly roll off the production line.
All the Russian faggots on here will throw a fit and claim that this is all lies, Russia is stronk and winning, but the maps don't lie. Facts don't care about fragile Russian feelings. Russia suffered a string of devastating losses at the hands of Ukraine and we can all see it. The lost thousands of lives trying to take Izum, Kherson, and Kharkiv, and they ran from all three of those.
The massive dump of military technology led to an immediate improvement in performance by Ukraine, because technology matters. It matters a LOT.
Ukraine has a Javelin missile... Russia is literally still using the RPG-7. Bro that's like African warlord technology. That's embarrassing. I'd be fucking embarrassed to be seen with one of those million year old adorable toys. The military is literally equipped with the same gear child soldiers in the Congo have. That's fucking HUMILIATING.
It's fine to laugh and support Russia "in spirit" of hoping Ukraine falls just to embarrass the retards who worship Ukraine and hopefully to kill Zelensky. But anybody who thinks Russia is our ally, now, in the past, or in the future, and that we should be simping for them, is retarded. Ukraine and Russia are both cut from the same cloth of corrupt self-interested world leaders who don't care about you, and both nations destroying each other is fine by me. Russia hates the United States and wants us destroyed, they aren't your friend.
Wow, and lot of wrong claims here... But I'll stick with these ones.
They never tried to take Lvlv (it's in the far-west of the country) and Kherson was taken and later abandoned without a fight.
The RPG-7 is a much better weapon in urban combat than the Javelin, which is practically useless in such environments. Russia also has many modern ATGM's capable of destroying any armour, which it also uses frequently in Ukraine.
Iraq didn't have the entire western world constantly replenishing it's weapon stocks and giving it 100's of billions of dollars. Nor did it have a very modern air-defence system, whereas Ukraine inherited a fairly modern one from the Soviets. And I'll remind you that the US lost 75 aircraft in the first Gulf war, which is more than Russia has lost during 10 months in Ukraine (unless one believes the super-exaggerated claims by the Ukrainian MoD).
sniff sniff, anyone else smell Borscht, or is that Putin's dick?
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Whatever. I meant Izum. Who cares, they still lost fully half of everything they took. Not even going into how they tried and failed to take Zaphrozie for six months.
and Kherson was taken and later abandoned without a fight.
That's what happens when you run away with a river of urine following you. Kherson was critical to supplying operations north of the Dnieper. They ran because they're shit. A winning army doesn't give up a fucking city center. An army of losers and failures, however, does.
Oh never mind I remember that in the Art of War: "When you have a strong advantage, give it up to your enemy, and then lie about why you did it on Telegram."
The RPG-7 is a much better weapon in urban combat than the Javelin
Well good thing most of the operations aren't taking place in urban centers but instead in open areas where the Javelin excels. You can't bring your armor into a city when your armor can't get close to the city.
Russia also has many modern ATGM's capable of destroying any armour, which it also uses frequently in Ukraine
No they don't. The Javelin is a generational leap over the entire CONCEPT of an ATGM. ATGMs are annoying. An ATGM team is literally three men because they have to build the system in the field. Minimum is two men but that means you only get to fire once. They're big, heavy, bulky systems with big, heavy, bulky missiles.
The Javelin took the ATGM and shrank it down into something literally one man can carry, can fire on the move, and requires very minimal exposure for the firer. This is beyond anything Russia is capable of producing or purchasing. Otherwise they'd have done it. They didn't. Russia is, like everything else, decades behind on this concept.
Iraq didn't have the entire western world constantly replenishing it's weapon stocks and giving it 100's of billions of dollars
Neither did Ukraine for a couple of months. More than enough time for a "totally legit" military like Russia to crush them. And what happened? A total failure, they were jammed up in every theater, and they barely slowly crawled towards objectives. They lied and pretended their failed Kiev attack was a 'diversion'.
lol my favorite part about 'diversions' is how you sacrifice an entire VDV regiment to carry it out.
And I'll remind you that the US lost 75 aircraft in the first Gulf war, which is more than Russia has lost during 10 months in Ukraine (unless one believes the super-exaggerated claims by the Ukrainian MoD).
This is a lie. The US only lost 43. Don't call someone a liar and then lie yourself. 75 aircraft were lost across the entire coalition. Also, who cares? Aircraft are disposable to the US. To Russia they're a fucking arcane asset they can't afford to lose. And the US flattened Iraq in less than a month as the trade. What has Russia got for their losses?
Russia loses more armor in a week than the US lost the entire first Gulf War and they lose the entire crew when that happens. Russia is not using their aircraft because they're literally afraid, since they can't replace any losses. F-16s are like fuckin' HMMWVs to the USAF.
Remember the Su-57? Where's that? Ah right, they can barely afford to produce more than eight per year, while eight F-35s roll off the production line literally every two weeks.
Russia's military is a top to bottom embarrassment. No drones.
Dude. Just stop. It's clear you're painfully ignorant of the war, and Russia in general. Let me guess, Russia's 'just a gas station' right...
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...No. You're just high on patriotic bullshit dude.
"sacrifice an entire VDV regiment" - What? Let me guess, you actually believe that horseshit the Ukrainians claimed about defeating the VDV at Hostomel, despite the fact the VDV held the air base for a day by themselves so motorized units could rush in and secure it from Belarus.
'No airpower' 'No drones'... Yeah that alone tells me you know absolutely nothing. I've literally seen hundreds of videos of Russian Kub, Lancet & Geran drones taking out AFU vehicles, artillery and radars in last few months alone, but yeah... I guess you didn't see them so it didn't happen right? It's the same with Russian airpower, just ask the average AFU conscript getting bombed by them how much the 'Russian airforce can't do anything'. There's plenty of videos of them admitting how much it devastates them.
BTW, how's that KD ratio going. 100K AFU KIA, but yeah... they're definitely winning...
Like I said, facts don't care about your disgusting Russian feelings. The maps speak for themselves. Winners don't spend 8 months taking territory only to lose half of it in under two months.
Well of course. Russia hasn't put their country into trillions of dollars of debt to enforce the global new world order like our leaders have done. And even then we ran out of Afghanistan with our tail between our legs. And Iraq does not have democracy like they promised. Neither does Ukraine. The US State Dept made sure of that. Then they lied and said Ukraine was a fight for freedom. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan. And the NATO gimps can't get enough of that Globohomo cock. They love it so much that they would sell(and have sold) their grandchildren down the river to continue funding their globalist dreams.
I'd cope this hard too if my nation's military power was revealed to the entire world to be literally the worst army in the northern hemisphere.
If it weren't for nukes the fucking EU quite obviously could have just rolled into Russia and taken it over.
Russia hasn't put their country into trillions of dollars of debt to enforce the global new world order like our leaders have done
No Russia just put themselves in debt by having decades of such intense corruption that literally everything was stolen by everybody who had any kind of power. The difference is the US actually got something out of the deal. Russia didn't.
I think its more the fact that politics have gotten so divisive that people latch onto the exact opposite idea of their political opposition. Both sides are gobbling up Slavic cum lol because Ukrainians are slav too.
There's a lot of propaganda coming out of both sides, and people just latch onto a perceived truth or a lie. It's impossible to know what is actually going on. The objective reality is this: no one will know much of anything until the dust settles and the conflict is actually over.
You have a lot of people who have stupidly taken the position of "I don't like Ukraine, therefore Russia is my BFF" and will swallow any amount of slavic cum around here, but realistically the Russian military actually really wasn't all-that. It's simply old, obsolete, and Russia never had the money to maintain it. I imagine a shitload of corruption and theft was happening giving the Kremlin a false idea of the status of forces.
There's a lot of shit you can see on even pro-Russia telegram channels that indicates that they don't got this. Consider this: in the first hour of the 2003 Iraq War, the US completely defeated their entire country. Precision strikes across the nation utterly destroyed all their reserve ammo, fuel, and equipment. It wiped out all their C3 centers. It flattened their decision-making centers. Iraq had one of the strongest militaries in the world and they were utterly defeated.
It's been 10 months and Russia is still struggling to even hold the 20% of the country they took. They've never made any meaningful progress in the eastern theater, what they did take, they surrendered and ran from. They've never had control of the skies, and are clearly afraid of losing aircraft to AD systems, because their aircraft barely fly beyond their lines before firing a bunch of unguided rockets that hit nothing and running.
Russia's been having a bitch of a time fighting entrenched Ukrainians because Russia has almost no advanced weapons. They are using impact-fused artillery against trenches, like it's WW1. It's comical how quaint their tactics and equipment are. Russia has no ISR capabilities, like, none, because they never bothered to invest in a drone program. For real, they didn't have a single drone, they're using DJI Phantoms and moped-powered drones from Iran. The T-80 and T-90 are just T-62s with upgrades, it's still an old, flawed, deathtrap of a design.
Watch enough Telegram channels and you'll quickly realize that Russia simply has a massive shortage of modern gear. For example, you can see night vision devices on half the pictures of any American in Afghanistan or Iraq. Russia has so few of these you almost never see them and they only get used for exotic ops. They're struggling to land more than a few actual guided missiles a month, suggesting that they don't have them in reserve and they're firing them as they slowly roll off the production line.
All the Russian faggots on here will throw a fit and claim that this is all lies, Russia is stronk and winning, but the maps don't lie. Facts don't care about fragile Russian feelings. Russia suffered a string of devastating losses at the hands of Ukraine and we can all see it. The lost thousands of lives trying to take Izum, Kherson, and Kharkiv, and they ran from all three of those.
The massive dump of military technology led to an immediate improvement in performance by Ukraine, because technology matters. It matters a LOT.
Ukraine has a Javelin missile... Russia is literally still using the RPG-7. Bro that's like African warlord technology. That's embarrassing. I'd be fucking embarrassed to be seen with one of those million year old adorable toys. The military is literally equipped with the same gear child soldiers in the Congo have. That's fucking HUMILIATING.
It's fine to laugh and support Russia "in spirit" of hoping Ukraine falls just to embarrass the retards who worship Ukraine and hopefully to kill Zelensky. But anybody who thinks Russia is our ally, now, in the past, or in the future, and that we should be simping for them, is retarded. Ukraine and Russia are both cut from the same cloth of corrupt self-interested world leaders who don't care about you, and both nations destroying each other is fine by me. Russia hates the United States and wants us destroyed, they aren't your friend.
Wow, and lot of wrong claims here... But I'll stick with these ones.
They never tried to take Lvlv (it's in the far-west of the country) and Kherson was taken and later abandoned without a fight.
The RPG-7 is a much better weapon in urban combat than the Javelin, which is practically useless in such environments. Russia also has many modern ATGM's capable of destroying any armour, which it also uses frequently in Ukraine.
Iraq didn't have the entire western world constantly replenishing it's weapon stocks and giving it 100's of billions of dollars. Nor did it have a very modern air-defence system, whereas Ukraine inherited a fairly modern one from the Soviets. And I'll remind you that the US lost 75 aircraft in the first Gulf war, which is more than Russia has lost during 10 months in Ukraine (unless one believes the super-exaggerated claims by the Ukrainian MoD).
sniff sniff, anyone else smell Borscht, or is that Putin's dick?
Whatever. I meant Izum. Who cares, they still lost fully half of everything they took. Not even going into how they tried and failed to take Zaphrozie for six months.
That's what happens when you run away with a river of urine following you. Kherson was critical to supplying operations north of the Dnieper. They ran because they're shit. A winning army doesn't give up a fucking city center. An army of losers and failures, however, does.
Oh never mind I remember that in the Art of War: "When you have a strong advantage, give it up to your enemy, and then lie about why you did it on Telegram."
Well good thing most of the operations aren't taking place in urban centers but instead in open areas where the Javelin excels. You can't bring your armor into a city when your armor can't get close to the city.
No they don't. The Javelin is a generational leap over the entire CONCEPT of an ATGM. ATGMs are annoying. An ATGM team is literally three men because they have to build the system in the field. Minimum is two men but that means you only get to fire once. They're big, heavy, bulky systems with big, heavy, bulky missiles.
The Javelin took the ATGM and shrank it down into something literally one man can carry, can fire on the move, and requires very minimal exposure for the firer. This is beyond anything Russia is capable of producing or purchasing. Otherwise they'd have done it. They didn't. Russia is, like everything else, decades behind on this concept.
Neither did Ukraine for a couple of months. More than enough time for a "totally legit" military like Russia to crush them. And what happened? A total failure, they were jammed up in every theater, and they barely slowly crawled towards objectives. They lied and pretended their failed Kiev attack was a 'diversion'.
lol my favorite part about 'diversions' is how you sacrifice an entire VDV regiment to carry it out.
This is a lie. The US only lost 43. Don't call someone a liar and then lie yourself. 75 aircraft were lost across the entire coalition. Also, who cares? Aircraft are disposable to the US. To Russia they're a fucking arcane asset they can't afford to lose. And the US flattened Iraq in less than a month as the trade. What has Russia got for their losses?
Russia loses more armor in a week than the US lost the entire first Gulf War and they lose the entire crew when that happens. Russia is not using their aircraft because they're literally afraid, since they can't replace any losses. F-16s are like fuckin' HMMWVs to the USAF.
Remember the Su-57? Where's that? Ah right, they can barely afford to produce more than eight per year, while eight F-35s roll off the production line literally every two weeks.
Russia's military is a top to bottom embarrassment. No drones.
Dude.
No fucking drones. They had NOTHING.
Dude. Just stop. It's clear you're painfully ignorant of the war, and Russia in general. Let me guess, Russia's 'just a gas station' right...
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...No. You're just high on patriotic bullshit dude.
"sacrifice an entire VDV regiment" - What? Let me guess, you actually believe that horseshit the Ukrainians claimed about defeating the VDV at Hostomel, despite the fact the VDV held the air base for a day by themselves so motorized units could rush in and secure it from Belarus.
'No airpower' 'No drones'... Yeah that alone tells me you know absolutely nothing. I've literally seen hundreds of videos of Russian Kub, Lancet & Geran drones taking out AFU vehicles, artillery and radars in last few months alone, but yeah... I guess you didn't see them so it didn't happen right? It's the same with Russian airpower, just ask the average AFU conscript getting bombed by them how much the 'Russian airforce can't do anything'. There's plenty of videos of them admitting how much it devastates them.
BTW, how's that KD ratio going. 100K AFU KIA, but yeah... they're definitely winning...
Like I said, facts don't care about your disgusting Russian feelings. The maps speak for themselves. Winners don't spend 8 months taking territory only to lose half of it in under two months.
Well of course. Russia hasn't put their country into trillions of dollars of debt to enforce the global new world order like our leaders have done. And even then we ran out of Afghanistan with our tail between our legs. And Iraq does not have democracy like they promised. Neither does Ukraine. The US State Dept made sure of that. Then they lied and said Ukraine was a fight for freedom. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan. And the NATO gimps can't get enough of that Globohomo cock. They love it so much that they would sell(and have sold) their grandchildren down the river to continue funding their globalist dreams.
I'd cope this hard too if my nation's military power was revealed to the entire world to be literally the worst army in the northern hemisphere.
If it weren't for nukes the fucking EU quite obviously could have just rolled into Russia and taken it over.
No Russia just put themselves in debt by having decades of such intense corruption that literally everything was stolen by everybody who had any kind of power. The difference is the US actually got something out of the deal. Russia didn't.
I think its more the fact that politics have gotten so divisive that people latch onto the exact opposite idea of their political opposition. Both sides are gobbling up Slavic cum lol because Ukrainians are slav too.
There's a lot of propaganda coming out of both sides, and people just latch onto a perceived truth or a lie. It's impossible to know what is actually going on. The objective reality is this: no one will know much of anything until the dust settles and the conflict is actually over.