And hubris filled atheists and snot nosed redditors alike will quickly point out with froth at their mouths that christ wasnt actually born on christmas and the holiday was "stolen" from the pagans, much in the same way we "stole" the land we live upon today. They fail to understand history and have arbitrary points of origin to which they base all their ("infallible" "scientific") claims.
Theyll find the light and the way eventually as I did. They can't be shown the truth, they have to meander their way through darkness until they find it. Telling someone they're wrong is a sure fire way to have them double down and slight you for believing in fairy tales.
Well the idea among many is that Christmas is a fake holiday. It was "originally" a pagan holiday that the Christians co-opted or "stole," so that invalidates it.
But never do they take into account that its always been special time of year throughout all cultures and civilizations. No, they draw a line in the sand, and that is imaginary line invalidates every cultural transformation afterward.
That wasn't my point. The point is that the date is used as a celebration of his birth, while not necessarily being the day of his birth. In fact we have absolutely no idea when he was born, it's all speculation.
And to me that's fine, I don't live in a world of absolutes. But to your average redditor that's a sticking point that nullifies the entire religion and Jesus himself.
I agree with you though because that's exactly what it is, and used to honour and respect the man during a time that has literally always been a special time.
"Son" and "sun" is an English homophone that has zero application to Christmas. The winter solstice varies but its most common day is the 21st. You are basically repeating bad arguments from atheists and Jews. There was nothing pagan when Christians were debating the day Christ was born, and they settled on celebrating the 25th of December.
And hubris filled atheists and snot nosed redditors alike will quickly point out with froth at their mouths that christ wasnt actually born on christmas and the holiday was "stolen" from the pagans, much in the same way we "stole" the land we live upon today. They fail to understand history and have arbitrary points of origin to which they base all their ("infallible" "scientific") claims.
Theyll find the light and the way eventually as I did. They can't be shown the truth, they have to meander their way through darkness until they find it. Telling someone they're wrong is a sure fire way to have them double down and slight you for believing in fairy tales.
I like that kind of attack. It's an open to share the gospel. Smile, stay calm, and kindly tell them the life-saving good news of Jesus Christ :)
Being atheist, I don't really care about when you celebrate a religious birthday. You didn't "steal" anything, lots of people have the same birthday.
Well the idea among many is that Christmas is a fake holiday. It was "originally" a pagan holiday that the Christians co-opted or "stole," so that invalidates it.
But never do they take into account that its always been special time of year throughout all cultures and civilizations. No, they draw a line in the sand, and that is imaginary line invalidates every cultural transformation afterward.
That wasn't my point. The point is that the date is used as a celebration of his birth, while not necessarily being the day of his birth. In fact we have absolutely no idea when he was born, it's all speculation.
And to me that's fine, I don't live in a world of absolutes. But to your average redditor that's a sticking point that nullifies the entire religion and Jesus himself.
I agree with you though because that's exactly what it is, and used to honour and respect the man during a time that has literally always been a special time.
"Son" and "sun" is an English homophone that has zero application to Christmas. The winter solstice varies but its most common day is the 21st. You are basically repeating bad arguments from atheists and Jews. There was nothing pagan when Christians were debating the day Christ was born, and they settled on celebrating the 25th of December.