Well the idea among many is that Christmas is a fake holiday. It was "originally" a pagan holiday that the Christians co-opted or "stole," so that invalidates it.
But never do they take into account that its always been special time of year throughout all cultures and civilizations. No, they draw a line in the sand, and that is imaginary line invalidates every cultural transformation afterward.
That wasn't my point. The point is that the date is used as a celebration of his birth, while not necessarily being the day of his birth. In fact we have absolutely no idea when he was born, it's all speculation.
And to me that's fine, I don't live in a world of absolutes. But to your average redditor that's a sticking point that nullifies the entire religion and Jesus himself.
I agree with you though because that's exactly what it is, and used to honour and respect the man during a time that has literally always been a special time.
"Son" and "sun" is an English homophone that has zero application to Christmas. The winter solstice varies but its most common day is the 21st. You are basically repeating bad arguments from atheists and Jews. There was nothing pagan when Christians were debating the day Christ was born, and they settled on celebrating the 25th of December.
Being atheist, I don't really care about when you celebrate a religious birthday. You didn't "steal" anything, lots of people have the same birthday.
Well the idea among many is that Christmas is a fake holiday. It was "originally" a pagan holiday that the Christians co-opted or "stole," so that invalidates it.
But never do they take into account that its always been special time of year throughout all cultures and civilizations. No, they draw a line in the sand, and that is imaginary line invalidates every cultural transformation afterward.
That wasn't my point. The point is that the date is used as a celebration of his birth, while not necessarily being the day of his birth. In fact we have absolutely no idea when he was born, it's all speculation.
And to me that's fine, I don't live in a world of absolutes. But to your average redditor that's a sticking point that nullifies the entire religion and Jesus himself.
I agree with you though because that's exactly what it is, and used to honour and respect the man during a time that has literally always been a special time.
Christmas means Christ mass.
It is a holiday (holy day, from holy day of obligation), created by the Church to celebrate the birth of Christ.
That’s all.
"Son" and "sun" is an English homophone that has zero application to Christmas. The winter solstice varies but its most common day is the 21st. You are basically repeating bad arguments from atheists and Jews. There was nothing pagan when Christians were debating the day Christ was born, and they settled on celebrating the 25th of December.