J6 will go down as one of the pivotal points in the history of this country and the world.
Not because of muh insurrection and muh assault on democracy, but because it neutered the God-given right to protest for millions of people.
I'll never, ever, ever understand why Trump peaced out instead of going to the Capitol as he said he'd do, gotten on the PA and told everyone to chill.
I'll never, ever, ever understand why Trump peaced out instead of going to the Capitol
In the J6 hearings they said he wanted to go and everyone around him refused. Remember the grab the steering wheel nonsense? I don't believe that part happened but I do believe he said to go and they refused.
I'll never, ever, ever understand why Trump peaced out instead of going to the Capitol as he said he'd do, gotten on the PA and told everyone to chill.
He didn't go because he would have instantly been dead from a "stray bullet fired by some right-wing white supremicist"
You underestimate the kinds of destruction the DS would unleash if he had not told everyone to go home. It would have been far, far worse than what happened to patriots at the Capitol Building that day and I don't know why no one here ever considers that.
The Deep State has suitcase nukes. Dirty bombs. Fentanyl by the carload. And absolutely zero conscience about using it.
Remember that Christmas morning explosion in the Tennessee city 2-3 years ago? Things like that are a warning. "This could have been a nice little nuke. Or an exploding box of nuclear waste. We can plant them anywhere. Still want to take the chance?"
Again: I don't know why no one here ever considers this. There is NOTHING these monsters would not do to protect themselves and the empire they think they're building.
I wasn't arguing that he shouldn't have said "go home in peace". I was arguing that he should have done it way sooner, in person, on site.
You're probably right that the personal risk would have been escalated, but look at the massive cost: we're afraid to protest for the J6 prisoners being held without charge, we're afraid to protest election shenanigans, we're afraid to do anything because everything is compared to the "insurrection" as being "extremist" and "terrorist", and no one wants their doors kicked in at 4am, disappeared, with no one else even giving a shit.
What could one achieve with the MIC working for/with you, and $5T.
Certainly a nationwide network of Overseas Containers filled with NBC stuff and a separate system of launch than the President's football would be almost "table stakes", for these people. With $5T I could probably build a Death Star.
And he has rarely mentioned them since. This is one thing about which I have a HUGE problem with Trump. These people went to jail for him and he should have been fighting for them LOUDLY every single day until they get out.
There's an untold story here but when you review the actions of Milley, Pence, and Pelosi it would appear the military was illegally taken control of by Pence and Trump was placed under house arrest.
They are protesting in AZ—that’s why this hearing is closed to the public.
Brnovich is definitely a RINO deep state shill, but the judges already ruled that Kari Lake CANNOT file her lawsuit until the canvass is complete. Per Arizona law, the public has 5 days to file a lawsuit to challenge the election results after the canvas is complete. (ie The election is certified.)
Make of it what you will. Don’t shoot the messenger— I find the logic to be backwards, myself. But this is what the Arizona legislature have written into law, and based on the written law, the judge said the lawsuit was premature. He told her to refile once the canvas is complete.
I’m sure they will use the certification as momentum to push Hobbes into office. Kari Lake’s team is going to have to work fast, and they probably need help. We should be focused on listening to what they need, and working with the quickness to aid them. There will be plenty of time to gripe and fume, should her challenge fail.
It’s not over yet. Be a winter soldier, not a sunshine patriot.
No leader has spoken with the right language to motivate people.
Kari Lake certainly hasn't.
She better, or I will hate her for the rest of my life.
You motivate people by playing to their emotions, in this case, you play up rage.
She's done Jack sh*t with her prominent position. Clever press statements and tweets are not enough. That might have worked if we had real elections. We dont.
You need people whipped into a frenzy in order to do f_all in this world.
Everywhere else on Earth this is what their leaders do to resist tyranny. Here our leaders are pussies.
It starts with language. If you're not willing to tell your local police officer he's an evil bastard working for an evil government you sure as sh*t won't be willing to push over his police line.
Imagine what it would take for you to call a police officer a f*ckwad fascist, then work that into your life until you do.
Then you will be able to do something.
Its all psychology, and our side hasn't got it and it looks like it will just die a slow, dishonorable death as slaves.
The WEFfies and the NPCs laugh at our lack of manhood, though of course they would never call it that. They would ask us why we're so afraid to cut our dicks off when we've basically already done that.
This^^^ is why no one is protesting. Kari Lake is just tweeting, and not leading. The AZ Patriot Party said this would happen and Kari was being used to get a democrat into office. (They also said Trump and Desantis would be going head to head to divide the republicans.) This is all staged my friends... the only way to win, is not to play.
Jan 6th plus constant accusations that anyone right leaning who does something or even suggests doing something glows.
If someone had earlier suggested locking down the building with protests, I'm sure there would be no shortage of posters here calling them feds. And then people wonder why nothing is being done.
Where are any of us... Millions of us gathered on J6. It can happen again anywhere!
Arizona is just one many corrupt places that could be liberated anytime.
Pointing the finger will get us nowhere So instead let's decide on some potential targets then a plan of attack. Pick some low hanging fruit in some relatively friendly territory. Score some easy wins and scale up from there.
A small group starts killing authority figures in broad daylight.
Most in Arizona start to cheer and support it.
If both occurred, youd have change in a hot hurry, months at most.
Now imagine all the reasons why this won't happen. Every single thing you can think of is what needs to change before we will even have negotiating power. I'll give you a hint- it's more about number 2 than number 1.
When they start running false flags and we CHEER them for doing it, that's when they'll know they're in trouble.
hence why I'm more than curious as to why Arizonans have a shot at stopping this, and they don't take it.
Michigan tried and failed in 2020. We didn't have nearly as much support and evidence as Arizonans have in 2022.
Look at everyone wanting to ARGUE with me, ad hominems and all, when I'm pointing out the need for localized protests in AZ. it has nothing to do with me, nor where I live.
My issue is michigan didn't show up with guns and force the change.
Arizona patriots have to be locked and loaded, ready to make arrests and then have to hope the government moves on them, makes them martyrs, and then we have to hope that moves patriots from adjacent states and nationally to move in and fight. That's the only way at this point or even in 2020. At least in 2020 there was.hopium that institutions like courts or judges wouldn't be in on the steal.
Why isn't Trump coming out and saying get your ass to Maricopa County to protest this fraud? Where is Kari Lake, standing out WITH the protestors? We lose AZ, this nation will never vote RED again.
Something makes me feel like all this is controlled opposition and we are the sheep being led to the slaughter? How do we come back from this? No way we win in 2024 with voting as fuct up as it is...
Trump's announcement, while expected, was underwhelming. He simply has no path to victory and is in a worse position than 2020 when he was at least in the White House already. They stole the states we needed. They don't need Florida anymore.
We lose AZ, this nation will never vote RED again.
No offense, and I truly mean that—I'm not trying to offend you...
But that fact that you a) think this, b) state it again online, and c) haven't yet moved passed that line of thinking is most of the problem.
We already lost AZ in 2020, along with a bunch of other states.
What part of "we're not voting our way out of this" do you not understand?
What part of "vote harder, faggot" did you not grasp?
Something makes me feel like all this is controlled opposition and we are the sheep being led to the slaughter? No way we win in 2024 with voting as fuct up as it is...
Generally speaking, the folks that do the fighting don't have kids. That's always been the case. Historically, there are very few exceptions.
In order to save/protect/serve society, the young, unwed, as-yet-childless males have to lay down their lives. They do so, sacrificing for the greater good, greater love that they have yet to experience knowing that they may not get a chance to, and going anyway.
If you don't have a society that inspires the young men to throw themselves into the meat grinder to save everyone else from a worse fate, you don't have a society that will survive.
We don't. It takes a deep faith in God and country; a deep love for one's fellow man and for the traditions of the body politic; a strong and unified monoculture; respect for and a sense of duty towards one's ancestors and offspring...
We don't have any of that anymore. We have economic interests, and that's it. And it was by design that we be fragmented and atomized this way. Immigration and the fracturing of the culture, language, traditions, history, and institutions prevent unity.
Ugh, these aren't republicans. These are the RINO, globalist, uniparty McCain wing of the establishment that hold the leadership reins in AZ. Kelly Ward may be one of few MAGA republicans as the head of the party, but that doesn't mean too much there, not with the McCain crowd as the majority.
'Mccain country'
AZ is full of corruption. And it was Republican corruption for years before it was Democrat corruption.
Cartels involved. Trafficking involved. Tunnels....
There may be a lot of good people, but there are a LOT of bad people on both parties too.
My 78 yo mom was triggered by Blake since he is pro life. She wants her abortions even though her womb is a dusty tomb. Of course, she isnt even registered to vote.. Also is anti illegals, but couldnt stand Kari Lake. same reason, abortion. You dont mess with women's bodies according to her. Vax mandates for men didnt seem to bother her however. Shes a retard. I let my brother deal with her most of the time.
Literally nobody is actively "messing" with women's bodies. They know that. The argument is nothing more than a cover for women who want to assume zero personal responsibility and slut around with zero repercussion.
Well, zero repercussions they know about. Wait until they're 35 and ready to 'settle down' but their babies keep dying because their womb is 70 scar tissue. If they're even fertile after decades of hormon therapy.
I saw somewhere ( i forget where) that somebody said the only people who could be eligable for the death penalty would be government officials, who deprived life and liberty of citizens. I like it.
We have never sentenced a US politician to death, nor has any every been accused of treason or sedition. We never stopped "doing such things" because we never done so in the first place. Depriving a person of liberty or property is one thing, but to deprive them of life is the highest burden for good reason. "These rats are corrupt ad ruining our country" is not a death penalty offense. However, aiding and abetting the enemy (the Chinese) might very well be.
Tarring and feathering is considered a cruel and unusual punishment, which the 8th Amendment prohibits. Public executions, however, should make a comeback. However, the press would have to be prohibited from photographs or video, and there must be no minor children in attendance.
Public executions are necessary at this point for a reason beyond the satisfaction of those who seek justice. It needs to be done so that people can witness the justice done in person.
No fake deaths. No deep fake videos. The system is completely corrupt, and public execution is the only means by which the actual administration of justice can be verified.
The problem is the vote harder crowd doesn't understand what we need to do and the crowd that gets it isn't putting their necks out for a party and people who will condemn them for doing what is needed.
Until we can get normies to care about reality more than a TV show or football game, we won't win.
I have a bunch of twenty year old workers, and they are all Trump and working hard and other rural stuff. But they are on TikTok all day. I've told them what TikTok is, but they don't care. They are uneffected right now
Telling them what TikTok is has in fact made them less likely to listen to you in the future. “Ok boomer lol.” Or worse, “Ok Qtard.”
The powers that be took the media in the 1980’s and the news was basically an “oh that’s nice” side acquistion. What they really wanted was Saturday morning and prime time, and a generation later, that harvest is being reaped, and new hybrid super crops made with social media. A drag Queen makes a funny dance while covering some song and now they are that harmless person that made them laugh. Some streamer they follow comes out as bisexual and they don’t blink. The media doesn’t even give it more than a hashtag started by TMZ; though the other influencers (a perfect name) will smile and say that’s great so now the kids think that’s great to. But then the tiktoker comes back looking sad when they are trying to oppress him with his/her/it/shit states laws, or got started at when they went out in public with their cross dressing boyfriend.
Now, ask yourself how many in that generation are voting anything but blue party line. Oh eventually they’ll be willing to vote red, but red by this point will be an all-inclusive lgbtq safespace that primarily concerns itself with tax policy and thinks mortality is not their business.
In 20-40 years Democrats are going to win every election fairly, and the ones they don’t win, they’ll still win.
More like our side saw what happened to the people that actually tried on January 6th and who weren't violent or armed..... Most voters in the block you're talking about have children and families to take care of, children that depend on them every single day including today and tomorrow.... It's kind of hard to risk your kids lives today to go be one of the protesters that they end up coming after just like the January 6th people......
You don't have to like that explanation, but that's exactly what's going on..... people are fucking furious but they've seen what this crooked system does and will do.... They can't risk them destroying their whole family directly...... This would be a job for the younger people to start, who don't have families for them to destroy yet....
And? The founders had families yet they waged a protracted war against the Crown even when their families got arrested. Countless revolutionaries through history all had families to protect and care for yet rose to the occasion for better or worse. It's not an excuse
This is false, and largely Hollywood hokum. The average age of a Revolutionary War soldier was early twenties. There were a few officers who had children, but most of those had children who were largely grown and didn't need constant parental presence, AND had extended families and servants to help raise them.
War is a young man's game.
In order to save/protect/serve society, the young, unwed, as-yet-childless males have to lay down their lives. They do so, sacrificing for the greater good, greater love that they have yet to experience knowing that they may not get a chance to, and going anyway.
If you don't have a society that inspires the young men to throw themselves into the meat grinder to save everyone else from a worse fate, you don't have a society that will survive.
This war will likely not start until the last Boomer is dead. Historically, the generations that caused the problems of societal decay have to die off before the revival occurs.
Then it will be GenZ who decides if they want to fight it or not, and how far they are willing to go.
The debt bomb explodes no later than 2035, at which point the U.S. will cease to exist in any meaningful form, and the breakup of the country is virtually assured. There's a great many perfect storms that are going to be coming together in the near future.
You're flippantly asking these people willingly give over control of their children to the worshippers of Baal. The founding fathers didn't have that concern, because they lived in a society that still knew right from wrong.
They already are giving the baal worshippers control of their children through school, social media, and the TV.
For the price of freedom no cost is to great. Its practically built into the fabric of America itself or at least it was until the populace lost its balls somewhere over the last sixty years.
Let's say theoretically I do what you say, would I not be labled a glowie? Would anyone support me or just write me off as a Fed? One man cannot enact this sort of change on his own, let alone when the people supposedly on his side will abandon him at the first sign of trouble or hardship.
And what are you going to do? Sit around hoping that someone like Trump will do something? Vote harder? Perhaps take it to a court system known for being corrupt?
It is indeed DIRE! How are our children going to live if this continues? What will they do to our children? They have already started by trying to inject poisons into them...among other things. Our kids lives are already at risk!
Moral COWARDS one and all. The founders actively put their kids in harms way as spies and irregulars, yet today these cowards can't fathom them going hungry for a while.
Our side probably has responsibilities, like bills, kids, work. And protests don't work. Even if a million showed up. There are probably a thousand fbi traitors ready to instigate j6-2.0 if people show up.
Normies wont lift a finger even to save their own lives. They are ignorant, incompetent, lazy, and apathetic. This is the reason i no longer believe in a possible civil war scenario or even basic civil resistance against tyranny. Waking then up is the most infuriating and futile task as they seem content living in misery and mediocrity.
Everything will continue to get worse until it inevitably collapses.
There once was a proposal made in the senate of ancient Rome that slaves should be made to wear distinctive clothes. The proposal was dropped, however, when it was realized that it would allow slaves to realize their numbers (and plot rebellion).
As it has been said a thousand times, none of that real shit ever happens until people start starving to death
You're never going to have the amount of people you would need for a resistance until people are actually truly starving and dying. People will take pretty much every form of punishment/diress under the sun. That's really where the true line is for all animals, including us.
Agree, I've long given up. There is going to be no pushback. People are too dumbed down, overly medicated, obese, slow, lazy, heavily brainwashed.....too comfortable, glued to sportsball, Dancing With The Stars, cheap fast food and processed carbohydrates, porn addiction, scrolling on social media......
The only inevitable direction is total and complete collapse. Then maybe enough people will wake up.
Hard black pill to swallow: most elections in 2022 were won fairly. Primaries ensuring it was Lib vs RINO, lot of manipulation there, but when the normies had what they thought was a Blue / Red option, they chose blue.
Though it’s not all on them. Walker is going to lose legit cause he’s the kind of idiot who started talking about vampires vs werewolves while campaigning.
True, they are not. I heard a girl at work talking about vacationing in Australia. Yep, the same Australia that recently beat up people just for protesting against medical tyranny. SMH.
It's Kari Lakes responsibility to rally her base to fight back. She has decided to pull a 2020 and talk about how outrageous it is and how fraudulent it was while allowing it to happen. This is how Democrats, BLM, and Antifa know they can do anything and get away with it. They see we are weak and will not stand up for any damn thing.
I had a sliver of hope for 2022, only because they knew the game and I was hoping they’d have a plan to catch them, fight them, run the same tactics, anything. No, just vote harder. Then shucks, we tried. Back to riding my horse (cough, Mastriano). You can’t expect grandmas to go protest and risk getting thrown in the gulag when the candidate shrugs their shoulders and says “my lawyers are working on it”. I’m not sure about Lake but most of the losing conservatives should have had a plan.
JMHO but the long game needs to be infiltrating these gate keeper positions as establishment types and catching them laying out the plan from their own mouth on hidden camera Veritas style. Then dropping the tapes right before election day.
She has more legal options once it's certified, AZ actually removed a governor after a year due to election fraud. The way the state law is set up, there are more legal options to challenge the appointment once it's made.
Kari Lake did not give up.
In the defense of regular people, you aren't supposed to have to take up arms to get the government to follow the law in this country. We have layer up on layer upon layer of government that's supposed to check crime and bullshit and people have not accepted the possibility that this system might be broken: it's too stunning a prospect for most of us to accept (and those who claim they have don't seem to do anything either). Also, the possibility that the left MIGHT try to bring about odious changes is not the same thing as actually having them do it. Watch and wait seems frustrating at times but it also forestalls a mountain of pointless pain and embarrassment.
I wonder sometimes if being a Christian has actually immobilized people from action, thinking that we should be pacifists and just accept that the evil happening in front of our faces is part of our role in the grand scheme of things, and we should just accept it and pray? I personally think, as a Christian, we should feel a righteous indignation, and stand up and fight against this dark force taking over our country. To me, being a Christian doesn’t mean rolling over and taking every lick without fighting, but I just wonder if that’s what holds so many on our side back?
Modern "Christians" think, "Turn the other cheek," means, "Tolerate all evil without ever doing anything about it." They mistake God's message to not avenge personal grievances as a general message to do nothing when anything bad happens. Of course, these are the same people who think "meek" means "weak and powerless."
Yes the new weak Christianity views their position as one of personal principle and nothing more. The judging is for Jesus to do not me. We've become quakers.
It's not the belief in Jesus Christ being the savior, crucified, resurrected, and ascended that is the problem.
It's the pastors/preachers. Church, especially these days, is nothing more than a business model, and only a fool would believe that Seminaries aren't just as, if not more so, infiltrated by the devils minions than our public colleges.
Christianity, as a religion, is so corrupt and off course most can't even agree on how to be saved and whether or not works are involved.
Pastors have absolutely used their pulpits to manipulate people not just for monetary gain, but to spread messages that they were taught in seminary, that they believed without question. Pacifism/inaction being one of them.
Over and over and over again they quote Psalms, Proverbs, and other scripture about how the wicked will meet their end without anyone needing to do anything, because God is the Righteous Judge. Telling people how bad and scary the world is, and to just pray and be patient "in these perilous times" is a great lead in to lessons crafted to make people feel guilty for not trusting God to do everything (because fear and guilt have nothing to do with the fact that they send the offering trays around immediately afterwards).
So in a way, yes, the Christians are at fault, but many of them were raised from childhood into the church system. It's all they know, and thanks to the Roman Catholic Church of the past, there is an underlying fear of being labeled a "heretic", so no-one stands up and questions the way the church is run.
I suspect this is the primary reason that people who choose to believe at a later date in life (in their twenties, thirties, etc.) have a higher chance of "falling away". They don't have the "from childhood" programming, and it doesn't take long before they start to question why churches do some of the things they do. Should they ask said questions, they are told to "sit down, shut up, and feed the offering tray" (in the most loving and "Christ like" manner of course).
The worst part, in my opinion, is that this has been going on for so long now, that we're likely well past the point of no return. Many churches today are pushing LGBTQ+ agenda, etc. Fracturing is happening within denominations, and don't get me started on the whole "non-profit" side of things has been used by governments to muzzle and control pastors for decades.
Yep.....most people, even most conservatives/patriots haven't accepted that the entire system is corrupt and rotten to the core yet.
They still believe the government will do the right thing and enact justice and fix everything.
The harsh reality is that no one is coming to save us. Those "checks and balances" within the government have long been corrupted and now its used to defend, hide and protect the corruption instead.
Because instead of the police and military protecting the people, they protect the corrupt politicians. Then we have judges who instead of serving the constitution, they serve the same corrupt politicians.
Because they don’t want to sit in jail for years while the rest of us twiddle our thumbs. Everyone who calls anyone out on here for sitting around and doing nothing needs to remember that they encouraged violence on January 6 and then sat at home screaming that it wasn’t us and it was a false flag.
I do remember when everyone was chanting "1776" as the protests were happening and then suddenly after the political prisoners were rounded up and tossed in a jail suddenly it changed to "they were all feds, false flags, glowies!"
Then future protests that attempted to get organized were all dismissed as "DON'T GO ITS A FALSE FLAG AND FED HONEY POT!!!"
Someone can't. 30,000 users on td.win were in the megathread leading to the event. Lots of shit way worse than property damage discussed and planned by plenty of non-handshakes. Unless 75% of the site were feds, the whole thing was a bad idea.
Yup. Huge archives with like a thousand examples available. Maps of the capitol and tunnels and shit. Fucking soldier-boy LARPers went too far and then found out. That isn't the time for performative actions, for putting on some show and being all "oh jk. It was antifa!"
There should have been a mob of people continually protesting pretty much anywhere In maricopa since the day after the “election”. Instead nobody does anything because we’re still all fat and comfortable.
Massive protests are the first step in any pushback against tyranny. Its necessary for the momentum of movements. Even the American Revolution started out with protests and grew from there.
Posting on the internet is great and all, but that doesn't generate the bond and cohesiveness that a movement really needs.
I’m starting to believe one day the FBI will be knocking on our doors for exercising our rights to free speech on this site. Let’s face it - there is no limit to what authorities (just pick any 3 letter agency) will do to intimidate us into staying in place. Not only are we reluctant to speak out, we are reluctant to go out, even to peacefully protest. This is the new order.
This exactly. I had elbow surgery last week so I'm out of work for a month and would gladly drive to Arizona to protest but apparently the people of Arizona don't give a shit about their election being stolen.
Guess Arizonians don't have the balls of the people who participated in The Battle of Athens. Seriously, if you don't fight to stop fraud then you deserve what you get.
To anyone on here who doesn't know about the battle of Athens- count dankula made a great video on this, and it's a really important lesson you probably didn't learn in school!
The second sentence you said is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Some problems don’t have immediately known solutions. Imagine if a bunch of engineers found a massive crack in a bridge but didn’t know the best way to immediately proceed so they were like, “you know what, we’re not gonna do anything.” That’s how you sound right now
What are they going to do with that? I won't ask you to write out how you see things playing out, but stop and think for like half a second about what would happen. People go use 2A to handle the problem...what comes next?
That and the country was probably done 20-30 years ago. We're just now catching up to reality. This idea that "saving" the AZ election will fix things is absurd—they stole an entire presidential election.
Wait until they rob the entire treasury and the fabric of society finally unwinds completely. Then re-evaluate. Doing anything now will have the full force of the police state down one's throat, as you alluded to.
You underestimate political power and optics. You imagine a chain effect where the masses see you, are inspired, say “no more” and a collective movement springs up, guided by those who prepared for it. Now let’s not even talk about the aftermath of that when we all start fighting over exactly what’s replacing it, because we won’t get that far.
No, what happens is that first group gets killed, the well-intentioned patriots picked apart into crackpots, bigots and abusers, and the people shake their heads and say “well thank god those terrorists were all killed and now the government is rounding up all their terrorist friends.”
That woman is a flat-out communist, and we knew there would be trouble when she didn't campaign and refuse to debate, Arizona will never be red again with them in power.
Explain to me how we can make that happen. Last I checked these Moral Cowards supposedly "on our side" go full blown NPC Cognitive Dissonancy whenever you tell them that there are more important things they gotta do other than feeding their kids. They selfishly hoard their money and resources and call any attempt to organize and pool resources to fight back a Commie/Glowie/Fed honeypot. God forbid you tell these lazy fucks that you gotta think like these criminals to fight them, they wanna hand deliver you to the cops if you so much as suggest wearing a mask and/or covering up identifiable features so THEY DON'T GET IDENTIFIED SO EASILY!!!
I would love for you to give a detailed description of exactly what you expect all of these people, mind you, mostly people with children and families that depend on them right here and right now, exactly what you expect them to go out there and do to prevent exactly what you're talking about in the title?........
Of course you'll say that them having those children is the reason they should do something, but you can't even get to that point before you cover the immediate care of the kids, since their first and most important responsibility in life is caring for those children day to day and making sure they can continue doing so into the future.....
Wait till they come for your children and jobs.. I mean even more so than now.. then what excuse will we all use? It could have been worse as they March people to gulags? You don't think the forefathers had children?
When my dad was a little boy, his mom and stepdad bought groceries only for themselves and told him he had to go get his own food because theirs was off-limits to him. He fucking did it despite not being old enough to legally work.
All of these Moral Cowards can fuck right off with their bullshit "my kids need to eat" excuses. Kids love it when their dads are off being heroes, they always understand when dad can't be there for them when duty calls, it inspires them to follow in dad's footsteps. If this wasn't the case, no child would forgive their veteran dads for not being there for them, and multi-generational veteran families wouldn't exist.
I'm glad you're willing to come on here and admit your family history of mental illness, and to try to claim it as a virtue.
8 And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
-- 1 Timothy 5:8
Your grandmother and step-grandfather are likely burning in hell. They fucked up your dad, who fucked up you.
But go on, keep calling those who care for their children first, as they are supposed to do, "moral cowards."
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for him.
I can see through your bullshit, you hide from the fight by claiming moral superiority via "taking care of your family", and you can't see that you're going against that very same bible verse. Is it really taking care of your kids and family by choosing to focus on their short-term wants like what fastfood chain they want for dinner tonight instead of their long-term needs like, oh I don't know, making sure they never starve while waiting in a communist breadline?
You can't see through my bullshit, because you don't know me. I'm not hiding from any fight. You have literally no idea about anything about me, nor my situation, nor my ideological bent, because I haven't revealed them to you.
You are just spouting off from your own internal source of drivel. You come from a line of broken and non-existant social relationships, and therefore have no capacity to understand them at all, let alone functioning ones.
You speak of moral cowardice from a point of no moral authority at all, and you deny the very source of moral authority that would let you speak on moral cowardice, or any other moral matters.
You're a hot fucking mess, dude. Get help. Find Christ.
We ARE going to win. You'll see. Maybe you won't live to see it in this life, but we ARE going to WIN, and win BIGLY. And yes, that winning is not going to come about through "civilized" means. But it shall come about never-the-less.
It is certainly not helped by moral retards calling the very people who are going to be doing the winning "moral cowards."
I find that 1st paragraph hilarious since that's exactly what I'm getting from you.
Read through the rest of this post moron, damn near everyone here is the very same I speak of. "Oh we've lost, there's no hope", "have faith, [insert influential person] will lead us to victory!", etc. None of them dare be the ones to act.
Show me where these right-wing moral authorities are going to bring us to victory? Every last damn one of them has terminal cancer of the personality, hell my neighbor has fucking brain cancer and she's full of piss and vinegar to get shooting while she can. 30 years I've been on this planet, and so far I'm the only one I've met that truly believes in the virtues that the right turned into bumper sticker slogans.
And for your information, I did find Jesus a long time ago. Too many Christians in name only, too many churches twisting the word of God to suit their needs has led me to where I am.
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When my dad was a little boy, his mom and stepdad bought groceries only for themselves and told him he had to go get his own food because theirs was off-limits to him. He fucking did it despite not being old enough to legally work.
All of these Moral Cowards can fuck right off with their bullshit "my kids need to eat" excuses. Kids love it when their dads are off being heroes, they always understand when dad can't be there for them when duty calls, it inspires them to follow in dad's footsteps. If this wasn't the case, no child would forgive their veteran dads for not being there for them, and multi-generational veteran families wouldn't exist.
You're fucked in the head, dude, as was your father, and your grandparents. You have no hope of preaching to anyone with that kind of background. You're functionally and constitutionally unable to understand. You're completely damaged in the social relationship department. And believe me, it comes across in spades.
You have no ability to evaluate me because a) you have no functioning ability to evaluate anyone due to your own issues, and b) because you don't know where I'm coming from.
I have at least a partial ability to evaluate your bullshit because you've over-shared. Your "moral cowardice" comments about people trying to feed their kids makes sense, because you're completely fucked in the head. You're damaged. You've been hurt deeply, in a way that is never going to fully heal, and in a way that absolutely does impact your ability to properly relate to someone else. That isn't your fault, but it does mean you should find some other expert to help you try to understand what is missing and non-functional in your makeup, and also listen when someone on your side is telling you, "you don't understand, and dude, you're fucked up and need some help."
Or, you know, keep spouting your bullshit and making enemies.
"Will somebody please think of the children?!" You do realize the nation was founded by families and fought for buy, wait for it, also families with children right?
"The average age of women at first childbearing was 23.45 years. century. The coefficient was found to be statistically insignificant. It is interesting that no relationship was found to exist between marital age and wealth." https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/anthpubs/ucb/text/kas042-004.pdf
So, to make my point again, most were parents during the revolutionary war.
Neither of those sources pertain to our discussion.
A) The "average life expectancy" is due to the extreme likelihood of early deaths. Those individuals who survived early childhood lived a normal life expectancy.
B) The "average life expectancy" has nothing at all to do with parentage, offspring, or wars. Those who fought in the Revolutionary War were predominantly young, childless males. Those who needed to care for children were extremely unlikely to be a member of a regular military unit. They may respond to support in a local skirmish, but were not part of the continental army or larger regular militia units that would engage in battle.
I think you are missing my point a bit. No one is saying bring your kids to a gun fight, I am saying is they had them. 20 years old is old in revolutionary war terms when the average was age of death was about 35. So I'd you didn't already have children by 20, you probably were going to have them. In the words of Thomas Paine; " I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my CHILDREN [added emphasis] may know peace."
So if you didn't already have children by 20, you probably were going to have them.
This is just a complete load of bullshit. It was extremely common for older men to marry younger women. A 30-year-old dude marrying an 18-year old woman (both virgins) was not out of the ordinary.
In the words of Thomas Paine; " I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my CHILDREN [added emphasis] may know peace."
Do tell, what regiment was Thomas Paine in? What battles did he partake in? Which troops did he lead? Was he a commander? A general? A footsoldier?
He enlisted in the Pennsylvania Associators, a volunteer regiment to assist if and when it was needed. That regiment never saw battle. It was deployed to the shores of New Jersey to oppose a British landing that turned out to be in strength. Rather than commit suicide, the Pennsylvania Associators disbanded on the spot and went home.
So Paine walked to Fort Lee and tried to join a regular unit there. He was promptly drummed out of service, being told by senior officers that he had no place and no business being in the military. Instead, he was attached to General Nathanael Greene, where he served as a his secretary and used his time to write some of his pamphlets and letters, including the Crisis pamphlets, once of which was sent to George Washington, who read Paine's words to his troops. This was the famous "sunshine patriots" letter.
Paine was then dismissed from the military and sent to Congress to conduct diplomacy and negotiations on behalf of the country, since he was unsuited to being a combatant in the army. George Washington read Paine's letter to his troops at Christmas in 1776. By January, Paine was in Washington and appointed Secretary to the United States Council of Safety. His first task was negotiating a treaty with the Iroquois.
Even your hand-picked example of the Revolutionary War being fought by parents turns out to be false. Complete hokum.
They did have children, they did have families but still fought against the Crown even when their wives and children were imprisoned. The Founders risked it all for something they believed in, they suffered during their time ending up dead or impoverished, but they are remembered now as heroes.
John Brown had family, yet he and his sons fought for the liberation of Slaves in the South and fought Pro-Slavers in Kansas. Sure opinion on him is mixed but he believed in his cause and was willing to die for it.
William Travis put it all on the line along with the other Mexican and American settlers in Texas when they stood against Santa Anna. The Mayan people did the same in the Yucatan and fought for nearly a century or more.
Athens Tennessee, WW2 Veterans seized control of their local elections after they got screwed by Fraud putting their families on the line.
Automatic weapons. Drones. Missiles. A system of communication that allows your government to track what you say and where you are when you say it. The british forbid large gatherings. Today they’d have just listened in on every gathering.
Water is still wet in a world where the sun rises in the East and it does so over a land they’d find incomprehensible.
Question .. the Lake campaign have been saying that the election has to be certified to allow them the opportunity to launch the lawsuits ..Any truth in that?
Yes. Between Bannon’s War Room and Lindell TV, those from the campaign have been giving regular updates. They mentioned that according to AZ law, the election has to be certified first before the lawyers can do anything. But the lawyers have a strong case on all sides.
But it’s still disgusting that Katie Robs has to be certified first.
I read that K. Lake has to wait until the election has been certified to file her lawsuits...otherwise no standing maybe? Anyway, I think (I hope) we will see some action from her soon.
The old ' pull the extention chord' trick should work here.
Roadrunner' style. Beep, beep
Works everytime. Plus it'll be fun watching the elections stealers gasp with virtue when they find out someone pulled the plug on purpose. Will be 'threat to our democracy' on repeat. REEE Who pulled the plug..REEEE insurrection Reee
I’m just shocked they haven’t outright stole NC yet. As a southerner that’s lived in both I refuse to believe that state is Red while GA is Blue. NC is absolutely infested with leftists from NY. That’s what makes the steal of GA so obvious to me
I think anyone who starts a thread like this should list all of the ways they are fighting election fraud in the OP. That way the rest can follow their example.
I think this is like year 1982 in USSR. The system is still working but everybody knows it is rotten and corrupted and not sustainable.The massive inertia will keep it working for a while longer but the federal and many state governments are rotting away from the inside, slowly but surely.
My fellow Americans let me down everyday, I’m getting too used to it… from coast to coast, we’re chock full of retards that prefer a clown world to reality.
How do you vote out people you didn't vote in. Criminals don't care about protests. As long as you are peaceful you are safely ignored. Protests did nothing to stop Biden from taking over and running this country into the ground. Protests are doing nothing in Brazil. Calling in the military is Brazil's only hope. Our only viable options in these scenarios are litigation and violence. We are trying litigation first. Unfortunately the American people still haven't suffered enough to gain the support we need to take physical action and not receive devastating blowback. It's too important to be pulling a Kanye and taking one step forward and two steps back.
Arizona IS lost. The election fix is in. Trump has no chance of winning in 2024. If Biden runs in 2024 he's a shoe-in to win. Hobbs, Whitmer in MI and Kelly in KS. Face it, America doesn't care.
If everything is so above board, why is it necessary to have a livestream rather than a live celebration of this victory of theirs, afraid that it would be a no show???
That's bc the Republicans are working with the Dems to stop maga.
Always have.
This isn’t the excuse for why those of us in AZ aren’t there.
There ought to be 72-hour protests. Lockdown the front and surround the face of the building with mass protest.
It’s as if Arizonans don’t mind the election stolen, gotta go diligently to work in the morning to be taxed by pedophiles who steal elections.
People are too scared of glowies to protest anymore.....hence why we have had zero notable protests for 2 years now
Jan 6th worked well in striking fear into the heart of patriots
J6 will go down as one of the pivotal points in the history of this country and the world.
Not because of muh insurrection and muh assault on democracy, but because it neutered the God-given right to protest for millions of people.
I'll never, ever, ever understand why Trump peaced out instead of going to the Capitol as he said he'd do, gotten on the PA and told everyone to chill.
In the J6 hearings they said he wanted to go and everyone around him refused. Remember the grab the steering wheel nonsense? I don't believe that part happened but I do believe he said to go and they refused.
It was a mistake of galactic proportions.
He didn't go because he would have instantly been dead from a "stray bullet fired by some right-wing white supremicist"
You underestimate the kinds of destruction the DS would unleash if he had not told everyone to go home. It would have been far, far worse than what happened to patriots at the Capitol Building that day and I don't know why no one here ever considers that.
The Deep State has suitcase nukes. Dirty bombs. Fentanyl by the carload. And absolutely zero conscience about using it.
Remember that Christmas morning explosion in the Tennessee city 2-3 years ago? Things like that are a warning. "This could have been a nice little nuke. Or an exploding box of nuclear waste. We can plant them anywhere. Still want to take the chance?"
Again: I don't know why no one here ever considers this. There is NOTHING these monsters would not do to protect themselves and the empire they think they're building.
I wasn't arguing that he shouldn't have said "go home in peace". I was arguing that he should have done it way sooner, in person, on site.
You're probably right that the personal risk would have been escalated, but look at the massive cost: we're afraid to protest for the J6 prisoners being held without charge, we're afraid to protest election shenanigans, we're afraid to do anything because everything is compared to the "insurrection" as being "extremist" and "terrorist", and no one wants their doors kicked in at 4am, disappeared, with no one else even giving a shit.
Thats what CNN says too
By my count the Pentagon cannot account for ~$5T.
What could one achieve with the MIC working for/with you, and $5T.
Certainly a nationwide network of Overseas Containers filled with NBC stuff and a separate system of launch than the President's football would be almost "table stakes", for these people. With $5T I could probably build a Death Star.
And he has rarely mentioned them since. This is one thing about which I have a HUGE problem with Trump. These people went to jail for him and he should have been fighting for them LOUDLY every single day until they get out.
There's an untold story here but when you review the actions of Milley, Pence, and Pelosi it would appear the military was illegally taken control of by Pence and Trump was placed under house arrest.
Sauce for this? I might agree if there is some evidence. And I agree that he was neutered very quickly
Pence doesn't have the legal authority to direct the national guard.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/06/10/pence-not-trump-asked-guard-troops-to-help-defend-capitol-on-jan-6-panel-says/
There are multiple reports that Trump struggled with secret service in his desire to walk up to the capital but was forced into the white house.
The reporting has Pelosi and Milley on the phone calling out the national guard.
Etc. Trump also fired SECDEF because the services were evading his orders at the directions of the secretaries.
This is all coup/treason level actions.
People are broke and need to work
They are protesting in AZ—that’s why this hearing is closed to the public.
Brnovich is definitely a RINO deep state shill, but the judges already ruled that Kari Lake CANNOT file her lawsuit until the canvass is complete. Per Arizona law, the public has 5 days to file a lawsuit to challenge the election results after the canvas is complete. (ie The election is certified.)
Make of it what you will. Don’t shoot the messenger— I find the logic to be backwards, myself. But this is what the Arizona legislature have written into law, and based on the written law, the judge said the lawsuit was premature. He told her to refile once the canvas is complete.
I’m sure they will use the certification as momentum to push Hobbes into office. Kari Lake’s team is going to have to work fast, and they probably need help. We should be focused on listening to what they need, and working with the quickness to aid them. There will be plenty of time to gripe and fume, should her challenge fail.
It’s not over yet. Be a winter soldier, not a sunshine patriot.
That's nice. Now why do they still use Google for their internet searches and empty their wallets for muh sportsball?
No leader has spoken with the right language to motivate people.
Kari Lake certainly hasn't.
She better, or I will hate her for the rest of my life.
You motivate people by playing to their emotions, in this case, you play up rage.
She's done Jack sh*t with her prominent position. Clever press statements and tweets are not enough. That might have worked if we had real elections. We dont.
You need people whipped into a frenzy in order to do f_all in this world.
Everywhere else on Earth this is what their leaders do to resist tyranny. Here our leaders are pussies.
It starts with language. If you're not willing to tell your local police officer he's an evil bastard working for an evil government you sure as sh*t won't be willing to push over his police line.
Imagine what it would take for you to call a police officer a f*ckwad fascist, then work that into your life until you do.
Then you will be able to do something.
Its all psychology, and our side hasn't got it and it looks like it will just die a slow, dishonorable death as slaves.
The WEFfies and the NPCs laugh at our lack of manhood, though of course they would never call it that. They would ask us why we're so afraid to cut our dicks off when we've basically already done that.
And we use cleverness as a shield to hide that.
This^^^ is why no one is protesting. Kari Lake is just tweeting, and not leading. The AZ Patriot Party said this would happen and Kari was being used to get a democrat into office. (They also said Trump and Desantis would be going head to head to divide the republicans.) This is all staged my friends... the only way to win, is not to play.
Become Ungovernable.
Jan 6th plus constant accusations that anyone right leaning who does something or even suggests doing something glows.
If someone had earlier suggested locking down the building with protests, I'm sure there would be no shortage of posters here calling them feds. And then people wonder why nothing is being done.
This times a thousand, times a million, times a google-plex.
Can confirm from the stop the steal horseshit that they were 100% rino information gathering exercises. Keep getting chinese sms spam since then.
Grey Hound runs straight to Maricopa County.
Where you at?
Where are any of us... Millions of us gathered on J6. It can happen again anywhere! Arizona is just one many corrupt places that could be liberated anytime.
Pointing the finger will get us nowhere So instead let's decide on some potential targets then a plan of attack. Pick some low hanging fruit in some relatively friendly territory. Score some easy wins and scale up from there.
Only an idiot would plan for anything on a public forum like this. Well... an idiot or a FED. Wait that would be redundant.
Sure, it's a risk but how much of a risk? What exactly would be the consequences?
Is screaming at each other to do something but never elaborating exactly what that is ever going to achieve anything?
How else should we organise or enact change when all other options have been exhausted?
This is what would work:
A small group starts killing authority figures in broad daylight.
Most in Arizona start to cheer and support it.
If both occurred, youd have change in a hot hurry, months at most.
Now imagine all the reasons why this won't happen. Every single thing you can think of is what needs to change before we will even have negotiating power. I'll give you a hint- it's more about number 2 than number 1.
When they start running false flags and we CHEER them for doing it, that's when they'll know they're in trouble.
why are you suggesting violence on this website. antifa types talk like you.
Fine, you don't like the idea. What else is left to do?
45H 55M by bus from GR. 240 bucks, not terrible for price but a two day bus trip would've been worth it on Friday, to be there today.
Is my not being there a detractor from my point? I asked, Arizonans, what's stopping them from protesting their election being falsely certified?
I'm in Michigan. I can ask what's stopping them without needing to explain why I'm also not there... we have our own wonderful problems here.
DC is DESIGNED to make it difficult to protest. You have a much better chance in AZ.
You may not "respect" the government of michigan.
But you do submit to it.
Protesting? Only 60% of registered Arizona even bothered to vote. Why would they protest? Protesting requires way more energy than voting.
You're in michigan which also has had fraudulent elections the last two cycles.
hence why I'm more than curious as to why Arizonans have a shot at stopping this, and they don't take it.
Michigan tried and failed in 2020. We didn't have nearly as much support and evidence as Arizonans have in 2022.
Look at everyone wanting to ARGUE with me, ad hominems and all, when I'm pointing out the need for localized protests in AZ. it has nothing to do with me, nor where I live.
My issue is michigan didn't show up with guns and force the change.
Arizona patriots have to be locked and loaded, ready to make arrests and then have to hope the government moves on them, makes them martyrs, and then we have to hope that moves patriots from adjacent states and nationally to move in and fight. That's the only way at this point or even in 2020. At least in 2020 there was.hopium that institutions like courts or judges wouldn't be in on the steal.
How are the mass protests going in Michigan?
Michigan is lost.
That’s my point. There is no sense in talking trash to someone from Arizona if you live in a compromised state yourself.
Ah. Another somebody else will get it commenter
We don't do anything because we don't have a clear vision.
We do nothing because we aren't organized.
Spending your personal time or money fighting a cause with no clear path of victory or roi is why people do nothing.
We have to go beyond politics and Trump if we want change.
Why isn't Trump coming out and saying get your ass to Maricopa County to protest this fraud? Where is Kari Lake, standing out WITH the protestors? We lose AZ, this nation will never vote RED again. Something makes me feel like all this is controlled opposition and we are the sheep being led to the slaughter? How do we come back from this? No way we win in 2024 with voting as fuct up as it is...
Trump's announcement, while expected, was underwhelming. He simply has no path to victory and is in a worse position than 2020 when he was at least in the White House already. They stole the states we needed. They don't need Florida anymore.
No offense, and I truly mean that—I'm not trying to offend you...
But that fact that you a) think this, b) state it again online, and c) haven't yet moved passed that line of thinking is most of the problem.
We already lost AZ in 2020, along with a bunch of other states.
What part of "we're not voting our way out of this" do you not understand?
What part of "vote harder, faggot" did you not grasp?
Yes, and yes.
Very true.
Freedom has an roi?
To a bunch of moral cowards that can't see past "if I don't work, my children don't eat", yes.
Generally speaking, the folks that do the fighting don't have kids. That's always been the case. Historically, there are very few exceptions.
In order to save/protect/serve society, the young, unwed, as-yet-childless males have to lay down their lives. They do so, sacrificing for the greater good, greater love that they have yet to experience knowing that they may not get a chance to, and going anyway.
If you don't have a society that inspires the young men to throw themselves into the meat grinder to save everyone else from a worse fate, you don't have a society that will survive.
We don't. It takes a deep faith in God and country; a deep love for one's fellow man and for the traditions of the body politic; a strong and unified monoculture; respect for and a sense of duty towards one's ancestors and offspring...
We don't have any of that anymore. We have economic interests, and that's it. And it was by design that we be fragmented and atomized this way. Immigration and the fracturing of the culture, language, traditions, history, and institutions prevent unity.
It was stolen nationwide in 2020. All we saw was like 400 people in DC out of 350mil.
There never will be mass protests
I gave up on bitch ass americunts standing up for themselves at all. Anywhere. Ever.
All you rollovers deserve what you get. A nation of losers.
The land of the serfs and the home of the cowards.
Please inquire about canada’s MAID. It’s specifically for faggots like yourself — terminal cases
Whew boy. A communist shill skank sticking up for the globalist regime.
Don't see that everyday.
And the cocksucker's name is u/AmericaFloats
Give me your real name and location so I can make a good commie out of you myself.
lol someone needs their mom to take their ipad away for making empty threats.
chicken shit
coward
weakling
pin dick
FACT! The UNIPARTY is real!
To stop MAGA because.....
Ugh, these aren't republicans. These are the RINO, globalist, uniparty McCain wing of the establishment that hold the leadership reins in AZ. Kelly Ward may be one of few MAGA republicans as the head of the party, but that doesn't mean too much there, not with the McCain crowd as the majority.
'Mccain country' AZ is full of corruption. And it was Republican corruption for years before it was Democrat corruption. Cartels involved. Trafficking involved. Tunnels....
There may be a lot of good people, but there are a LOT of bad people on both parties too.
My 78 yo mom was triggered by Blake since he is pro life. She wants her abortions even though her womb is a dusty tomb. Of course, she isnt even registered to vote.. Also is anti illegals, but couldnt stand Kari Lake. same reason, abortion. You dont mess with women's bodies according to her. Vax mandates for men didnt seem to bother her however. Shes a retard. I let my brother deal with her most of the time.
I feel bad for you pede, we all have retards in our family, but your own mother? Very sad.
Literally nobody is actively "messing" with women's bodies. They know that. The argument is nothing more than a cover for women who want to assume zero personal responsibility and slut around with zero repercussion.
Well, zero repercussions they know about. Wait until they're 35 and ready to 'settle down' but their babies keep dying because their womb is 70 scar tissue. If they're even fertile after decades of hormon therapy.
What a sad sorry state.
Harvest her ballot.
You need a better mother
My mom "decided" she was a lesbian after popping out two kids and being married for 18 years
She's the most pro-choice person I know.... And she can't even become pregnant 🙄
When did we stop doing such things? Especially against politicians. Ill even setting for a simple "tar and feathering" of an ex-politician.
I saw somewhere ( i forget where) that somebody said the only people who could be eligable for the death penalty would be government officials, who deprived life and liberty of citizens. I like it.
We have never sentenced a US politician to death, nor has any every been accused of treason or sedition. We never stopped "doing such things" because we never done so in the first place. Depriving a person of liberty or property is one thing, but to deprive them of life is the highest burden for good reason. "These rats are corrupt ad ruining our country" is not a death penalty offense. However, aiding and abetting the enemy (the Chinese) might very well be.
Sorry i meant this part. This and tar and feathering.
Tarring and feathering is considered a cruel and unusual punishment, which the 8th Amendment prohibits. Public executions, however, should make a comeback. However, the press would have to be prohibited from photographs or video, and there must be no minor children in attendance.
Public executions are necessary at this point for a reason beyond the satisfaction of those who seek justice. It needs to be done so that people can witness the justice done in person. No fake deaths. No deep fake videos. The system is completely corrupt, and public execution is the only means by which the actual administration of justice can be verified.
The Tree of Liberty will be fertile for decades to come after we are done with them.
Done implies we start.
So post about it more on the internet. That'll help.
Actions speak louder than words.
Closed to the public. Color me shocked.
We would be winning if Arizonans were to shut this place down today, I bet there aren't more than 50 people protesting. Our side simply does not care.
The problem is the vote harder crowd doesn't understand what we need to do and the crowd that gets it isn't putting their necks out for a party and people who will condemn them for doing what is needed.
That is the best explanation I have seen for this whole situation. Thank you for putting it into words.
Until we can get normies to care about reality more than a TV show or football game, we won't win.
I have a bunch of twenty year old workers, and they are all Trump and working hard and other rural stuff. But they are on TikTok all day. I've told them what TikTok is, but they don't care. They are uneffected right now
Telling them what TikTok is has in fact made them less likely to listen to you in the future. “Ok boomer lol.” Or worse, “Ok Qtard.”
The powers that be took the media in the 1980’s and the news was basically an “oh that’s nice” side acquistion. What they really wanted was Saturday morning and prime time, and a generation later, that harvest is being reaped, and new hybrid super crops made with social media. A drag Queen makes a funny dance while covering some song and now they are that harmless person that made them laugh. Some streamer they follow comes out as bisexual and they don’t blink. The media doesn’t even give it more than a hashtag started by TMZ; though the other influencers (a perfect name) will smile and say that’s great so now the kids think that’s great to. But then the tiktoker comes back looking sad when they are trying to oppress him with his/her/it/shit states laws, or got started at when they went out in public with their cross dressing boyfriend.
Now, ask yourself how many in that generation are voting anything but blue party line. Oh eventually they’ll be willing to vote red, but red by this point will be an all-inclusive lgbtq safespace that primarily concerns itself with tax policy and thinks mortality is not their business.
In 20-40 years Democrats are going to win every election fairly, and the ones they don’t win, they’ll still win.
Exactly
More like our side saw what happened to the people that actually tried on January 6th and who weren't violent or armed..... Most voters in the block you're talking about have children and families to take care of, children that depend on them every single day including today and tomorrow.... It's kind of hard to risk your kids lives today to go be one of the protesters that they end up coming after just like the January 6th people......
You don't have to like that explanation, but that's exactly what's going on..... people are fucking furious but they've seen what this crooked system does and will do.... They can't risk them destroying their whole family directly...... This would be a job for the younger people to start, who don't have families for them to destroy yet....
And? The founders had families yet they waged a protracted war against the Crown even when their families got arrested. Countless revolutionaries through history all had families to protect and care for yet rose to the occasion for better or worse. It's not an excuse
The people of the founding fathers time endured shit worse than this for almost 200 years.
This is false, and largely Hollywood hokum. The average age of a Revolutionary War soldier was early twenties. There were a few officers who had children, but most of those had children who were largely grown and didn't need constant parental presence, AND had extended families and servants to help raise them.
War is a young man's game.
In order to save/protect/serve society, the young, unwed, as-yet-childless males have to lay down their lives. They do so, sacrificing for the greater good, greater love that they have yet to experience knowing that they may not get a chance to, and going anyway.
If you don't have a society that inspires the young men to throw themselves into the meat grinder to save everyone else from a worse fate, you don't have a society that will survive.
This war will likely not start until the last Boomer is dead. Historically, the generations that caused the problems of societal decay have to die off before the revival occurs.
Then it will be GenZ who decides if they want to fight it or not, and how far they are willing to go.
The debt bomb explodes no later than 2035, at which point the U.S. will cease to exist in any meaningful form, and the breakup of the country is virtually assured. There's a great many perfect storms that are going to be coming together in the near future.
Not really you are just a pussy.
You're flippantly asking these people willingly give over control of their children to the worshippers of Baal. The founding fathers didn't have that concern, because they lived in a society that still knew right from wrong.
They already are giving the baal worshippers control of their children through school, social media, and the TV.
For the price of freedom no cost is to great. Its practically built into the fabric of America itself or at least it was until the populace lost its balls somewhere over the last sixty years.
Let's say theoretically I do what you say, would I not be labled a glowie? Would anyone support me or just write me off as a Fed? One man cannot enact this sort of change on his own, let alone when the people supposedly on his side will abandon him at the first sign of trouble or hardship.
And what are you going to do? Sit around hoping that someone like Trump will do something? Vote harder? Perhaps take it to a court system known for being corrupt?
No balls. Pussy.
No balls.
It is indeed DIRE! How are our children going to live if this continues? What will they do to our children? They have already started by trying to inject poisons into them...among other things. Our kids lives are already at risk!
We need Trump to stand up and lead the fight!
We need a wartime consigliere.
And it only took 200 years.
Younger people are liberals because they have no experience outside of the constant brainwashing
Moral COWARDS one and all. The founders actively put their kids in harms way as spies and irregulars, yet today these cowards can't fathom them going hungry for a while.
Our side probably has responsibilities, like bills, kids, work. And protests don't work. Even if a million showed up. There are probably a thousand fbi traitors ready to instigate j6-2.0 if people show up.
Normies wont lift a finger even to save their own lives. They are ignorant, incompetent, lazy, and apathetic. This is the reason i no longer believe in a possible civil war scenario or even basic civil resistance against tyranny. Waking then up is the most infuriating and futile task as they seem content living in misery and mediocrity.
Everything will continue to get worse until it inevitably collapses.
And now you understand why all empires eventually crumble...
And now you understand why slaves rarely revolted
There once was a proposal made in the senate of ancient Rome that slaves should be made to wear distinctive clothes. The proposal was dropped, however, when it was realized that it would allow slaves to realize their numbers (and plot rebellion).
Hello Rome
As it has been said a thousand times, none of that real shit ever happens until people start starving to death
You're never going to have the amount of people you would need for a resistance until people are actually truly starving and dying. People will take pretty much every form of punishment/diress under the sun. That's really where the true line is for all animals, including us.
No, they absolutely will not. They perfected bread and circuses, they will keep both going. Might not be living, but they’ll keep their pawns alive.
The colonialist didn't wait until it got that far before starting the revolutionary War, so why should we?
It got pretty bad in Boston before Bunker Hill happened.
Hence the bug burgers paid for with ebt cards for all who apply. They may not let most of us starve.
Agree, I've long given up. There is going to be no pushback. People are too dumbed down, overly medicated, obese, slow, lazy, heavily brainwashed.....too comfortable, glued to sportsball, Dancing With The Stars, cheap fast food and processed carbohydrates, porn addiction, scrolling on social media......
The only inevitable direction is total and complete collapse. Then maybe enough people will wake up.
So true. And I love the dipshits on here that will say "the normies are waking up."
Well apparently fucking not.
Hard black pill to swallow: most elections in 2022 were won fairly. Primaries ensuring it was Lib vs RINO, lot of manipulation there, but when the normies had what they thought was a Blue / Red option, they chose blue.
Though it’s not all on them. Walker is going to lose legit cause he’s the kind of idiot who started talking about vampires vs werewolves while campaigning.
True, they are not. I heard a girl at work talking about vacationing in Australia. Yep, the same Australia that recently beat up people just for protesting against medical tyranny. SMH.
It's Kari Lakes responsibility to rally her base to fight back. She has decided to pull a 2020 and talk about how outrageous it is and how fraudulent it was while allowing it to happen. This is how Democrats, BLM, and Antifa know they can do anything and get away with it. They see we are weak and will not stand up for any damn thing.
I had a sliver of hope for 2022, only because they knew the game and I was hoping they’d have a plan to catch them, fight them, run the same tactics, anything. No, just vote harder. Then shucks, we tried. Back to riding my horse (cough, Mastriano). You can’t expect grandmas to go protest and risk getting thrown in the gulag when the candidate shrugs their shoulders and says “my lawyers are working on it”. I’m not sure about Lake but most of the losing conservatives should have had a plan.
JMHO but the long game needs to be infiltrating these gate keeper positions as establishment types and catching them laying out the plan from their own mouth on hidden camera Veritas style. Then dropping the tapes right before election day.
What would politicians do? Oh that's right, they'd throw it all away and say "what evidence?"
A better question is why hasn’t Veritas done that.
it would take years under cover to get them to trust someone enough to sit in on the meetings.
Maybe losing was the plan.
The plan was obviously making sure Maga losses were plentiful.
The plan was keeping eyeballs glued to TV screens for as many weeks as possible on a nightly basis to boost advertising revenue.
Losing, is 5-D Chess
Continue the grift
And from what we can see about J6ers, even our "allies" in the GOOP wont lift a finger to support imprisoned patriots. We're in this alone.
She has more legal options once it's certified, AZ actually removed a governor after a year due to election fraud. The way the state law is set up, there are more legal options to challenge the appointment once it's made.
Kari Lake did not give up.
She’s told people repeatedly to get involved. What are you talking about?
In the defense of regular people, you aren't supposed to have to take up arms to get the government to follow the law in this country. We have layer up on layer upon layer of government that's supposed to check crime and bullshit and people have not accepted the possibility that this system might be broken: it's too stunning a prospect for most of us to accept (and those who claim they have don't seem to do anything either). Also, the possibility that the left MIGHT try to bring about odious changes is not the same thing as actually having them do it. Watch and wait seems frustrating at times but it also forestalls a mountain of pointless pain and embarrassment.
I wonder sometimes if being a Christian has actually immobilized people from action, thinking that we should be pacifists and just accept that the evil happening in front of our faces is part of our role in the grand scheme of things, and we should just accept it and pray? I personally think, as a Christian, we should feel a righteous indignation, and stand up and fight against this dark force taking over our country. To me, being a Christian doesn’t mean rolling over and taking every lick without fighting, but I just wonder if that’s what holds so many on our side back?
Modern "Christians" think, "Turn the other cheek," means, "Tolerate all evil without ever doing anything about it." They mistake God's message to not avenge personal grievances as a general message to do nothing when anything bad happens. Of course, these are the same people who think "meek" means "weak and powerless."
They don’t mistake, they cherry pick and take out of context.
It’s now all about feeling good and non-confrontational which is furthest from teachings.
Yes the new weak Christianity views their position as one of personal principle and nothing more. The judging is for Jesus to do not me. We've become quakers.
He had them Quaking in their boots
He convinced others to do it.
And he made a damn good bowl of oatmeal!
Ppl lost the historical lesson that govt is a necessary evil. After WW2 it's all govt good, govt protects me.
tl:dr: yes
It's not the belief in Jesus Christ being the savior, crucified, resurrected, and ascended that is the problem.
It's the pastors/preachers. Church, especially these days, is nothing more than a business model, and only a fool would believe that Seminaries aren't just as, if not more so, infiltrated by the devils minions than our public colleges.
Christianity, as a religion, is so corrupt and off course most can't even agree on how to be saved and whether or not works are involved.
Pastors have absolutely used their pulpits to manipulate people not just for monetary gain, but to spread messages that they were taught in seminary, that they believed without question. Pacifism/inaction being one of them.
Over and over and over again they quote Psalms, Proverbs, and other scripture about how the wicked will meet their end without anyone needing to do anything, because God is the Righteous Judge. Telling people how bad and scary the world is, and to just pray and be patient "in these perilous times" is a great lead in to lessons crafted to make people feel guilty for not trusting God to do everything (because fear and guilt have nothing to do with the fact that they send the offering trays around immediately afterwards).
So in a way, yes, the Christians are at fault, but many of them were raised from childhood into the church system. It's all they know, and thanks to the Roman Catholic Church of the past, there is an underlying fear of being labeled a "heretic", so no-one stands up and questions the way the church is run.
I suspect this is the primary reason that people who choose to believe at a later date in life (in their twenties, thirties, etc.) have a higher chance of "falling away". They don't have the "from childhood" programming, and it doesn't take long before they start to question why churches do some of the things they do. Should they ask said questions, they are told to "sit down, shut up, and feed the offering tray" (in the most loving and "Christ like" manner of course).
The worst part, in my opinion, is that this has been going on for so long now, that we're likely well past the point of no return. Many churches today are pushing LGBTQ+ agenda, etc. Fracturing is happening within denominations, and don't get me started on the whole "non-profit" side of things has been used by governments to muzzle and control pastors for decades.
Yep.....most people, even most conservatives/patriots haven't accepted that the entire system is corrupt and rotten to the core yet.
They still believe the government will do the right thing and enact justice and fix everything.
The harsh reality is that no one is coming to save us. Those "checks and balances" within the government have long been corrupted and now its used to defend, hide and protect the corruption instead.
Yup. People are slowly realizing though.
Because instead of the police and military protecting the people, they protect the corrupt politicians. Then we have judges who instead of serving the constitution, they serve the same corrupt politicians.
Its all a matter of who is signing the paychecks
Because they don’t want to sit in jail for years while the rest of us twiddle our thumbs. Everyone who calls anyone out on here for sitting around and doing nothing needs to remember that they encouraged violence on January 6 and then sat at home screaming that it wasn’t us and it was a false flag.
Yup. Double yup. And we have businesses, jobs and kids. Not interested in losing those. Or getting Babbitted.
I do remember when everyone was chanting "1776" as the protests were happening and then suddenly after the political prisoners were rounded up and tossed in a jail suddenly it changed to "they were all feds, false flags, glowies!"
Then future protests that attempted to get organized were all dismissed as "DON'T GO ITS A FALSE FLAG AND FED HONEY POT!!!"
And here we are.
Yeah. That was a bitch move on our parts.
STFU with this nonsense
Someone can't. 30,000 users on td.win were in the megathread leading to the event. Lots of shit way worse than property damage discussed and planned by plenty of non-handshakes. Unless 75% of the site were feds, the whole thing was a bad idea.
Tell me what violence occurred? I saw a protest
Who encouraged violence? I was online and never once heard anybody say anything of the sort.
They made screen caps. Be a goddamn man and own it or fuck off.
Me neither.
Oh, come on. I have screenshots of half-baked plans to hang and shoot that were all deleted by the 7th
Yup. Huge archives with like a thousand examples available. Maps of the capitol and tunnels and shit. Fucking soldier-boy LARPers went too far and then found out. That isn't the time for performative actions, for putting on some show and being all "oh jk. It was antifa!"
This is a poor copy and many deletes after but it was real— https://patriots.win/p/11R4q2aptJ/trump-tweet-daddy-says-be-in-dc-/c/
There should have been a mob of people continually protesting pretty much anywhere In maricopa since the day after the “election”. Instead nobody does anything because we’re still all fat and comfortable.
Perhaps they remember the basically innocent J6 victims sitting in solitary.
Then we've lost.
Massive protests are the first step in any pushback against tyranny. Its necessary for the momentum of movements. Even the American Revolution started out with protests and grew from there.
Posting on the internet is great and all, but that doesn't generate the bond and cohesiveness that a movement really needs.
I’m starting to believe one day the FBI will be knocking on our doors for exercising our rights to free speech on this site. Let’s face it - there is no limit to what authorities (just pick any 3 letter agency) will do to intimidate us into staying in place. Not only are we reluctant to speak out, we are reluctant to go out, even to peacefully protest. This is the new order.
They're in solitary because the alternative is being in gen pop which is like a huge 24/7 BLM meeting.
THats not going to do shit! Great solution.
Just like the BLM riots didn’t do anything in 2020 did nothing right?
They seized power by creating a scene for weeks and now everyone vows down to worship them.
There are no great or easy solutions. But sitting at home and doing nothing is just proving how powerless we really are.
Aight then keep sitting at home whining on an Internet forum and begging for “someone to do something”.
You too.
You dismiss people who have lives and kids to attend to as fat and comfortable? Have you been in AZ protesting since the election?
People tried organizing groups for protesting and so many on here and by Lake said not to go, that it was all a trap by the feds and glowies.
So we lose, then we placate OURSELVES into non action.
This exactly. I had elbow surgery last week so I'm out of work for a month and would gladly drive to Arizona to protest but apparently the people of Arizona don't give a shit about their election being stolen.
Guess Arizonians don't have the balls of the people who participated in The Battle of Athens. Seriously, if you don't fight to stop fraud then you deserve what you get.
To anyone on here who doesn't know about the battle of Athens- count dankula made a great video on this, and it's a really important lesson you probably didn't learn in school!
https://youtu.be/ykHdubea6ZU
The second sentence you said is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Some problems don’t have immediately known solutions. Imagine if a bunch of engineers found a massive crack in a bridge but didn’t know the best way to immediately proceed so they were like, “you know what, we’re not gonna do anything.” That’s how you sound right now
Sad to watch it happen.
The fuck do you expect them to do?
What are they going to do with that? I won't ask you to write out how you see things playing out, but stop and think for like half a second about what would happen. People go use 2A to handle the problem...what comes next?
I can assure you it's not a saved election.
That and the country was probably done 20-30 years ago. We're just now catching up to reality. This idea that "saving" the AZ election will fix things is absurd—they stole an entire presidential election.
Wait until they rob the entire treasury and the fabric of society finally unwinds completely. Then re-evaluate. Doing anything now will have the full force of the police state down one's throat, as you alluded to.
and what does 2A have to do with this? Going to go shoot them up bang, bang?
You underestimate political power and optics. You imagine a chain effect where the masses see you, are inspired, say “no more” and a collective movement springs up, guided by those who prepared for it. Now let’s not even talk about the aftermath of that when we all start fighting over exactly what’s replacing it, because we won’t get that far.
No, what happens is that first group gets killed, the well-intentioned patriots picked apart into crackpots, bigots and abusers, and the people shake their heads and say “well thank god those terrorists were all killed and now the government is rounding up all their terrorist friends.”
It might come to that. I’d, at the very least, protest armed and hope a million others did too.
That woman is a flat-out communist, and we knew there would be trouble when she didn't campaign and refuse to debate, Arizona will never be red again with them in power.
The problem is the checks and balances are now used to protect and defend the corruption. This is why legal action is futile.
"No standing" and "we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"
I think it's time to come to the realization that we aren't the same men our founding fathers were.
Explain to me how we can make that happen. Last I checked these Moral Cowards supposedly "on our side" go full blown NPC Cognitive Dissonancy whenever you tell them that there are more important things they gotta do other than feeding their kids. They selfishly hoard their money and resources and call any attempt to organize and pool resources to fight back a Commie/Glowie/Fed honeypot. God forbid you tell these lazy fucks that you gotta think like these criminals to fight them, they wanna hand deliver you to the cops if you so much as suggest wearing a mask and/or covering up identifiable features so THEY DON'T GET IDENTIFIED SO EASILY!!!
Because no one wants to be the first.
Agreed. But there are a few examples where that wasn't the case. Where one person alone made people notice.
Exactly what are they supposed to do?
I would love for you to give a detailed description of exactly what you expect all of these people, mind you, mostly people with children and families that depend on them right here and right now, exactly what you expect them to go out there and do to prevent exactly what you're talking about in the title?........
Of course you'll say that them having those children is the reason they should do something, but you can't even get to that point before you cover the immediate care of the kids, since their first and most important responsibility in life is caring for those children day to day and making sure they can continue doing so into the future.....
Wait till they come for your children and jobs.. I mean even more so than now.. then what excuse will we all use? It could have been worse as they March people to gulags? You don't think the forefathers had children?
When my dad was a little boy, his mom and stepdad bought groceries only for themselves and told him he had to go get his own food because theirs was off-limits to him. He fucking did it despite not being old enough to legally work.
All of these Moral Cowards can fuck right off with their bullshit "my kids need to eat" excuses. Kids love it when their dads are off being heroes, they always understand when dad can't be there for them when duty calls, it inspires them to follow in dad's footsteps. If this wasn't the case, no child would forgive their veteran dads for not being there for them, and multi-generational veteran families wouldn't exist.
I'm glad you're willing to come on here and admit your family history of mental illness, and to try to claim it as a virtue.
Your grandmother and step-grandfather are likely burning in hell. They fucked up your dad, who fucked up you.
But go on, keep calling those who care for their children first, as they are supposed to do, "moral cowards."
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for him.
I can see through your bullshit, you hide from the fight by claiming moral superiority via "taking care of your family", and you can't see that you're going against that very same bible verse. Is it really taking care of your kids and family by choosing to focus on their short-term wants like what fastfood chain they want for dinner tonight instead of their long-term needs like, oh I don't know, making sure they never starve while waiting in a communist breadline?
You can't see through my bullshit, because you don't know me. I'm not hiding from any fight. You have literally no idea about anything about me, nor my situation, nor my ideological bent, because I haven't revealed them to you.
You are just spouting off from your own internal source of drivel. You come from a line of broken and non-existant social relationships, and therefore have no capacity to understand them at all, let alone functioning ones.
You speak of moral cowardice from a point of no moral authority at all, and you deny the very source of moral authority that would let you speak on moral cowardice, or any other moral matters.
You're a hot fucking mess, dude. Get help. Find Christ.
We ARE going to win. You'll see. Maybe you won't live to see it in this life, but we ARE going to WIN, and win BIGLY. And yes, that winning is not going to come about through "civilized" means. But it shall come about never-the-less.
It is certainly not helped by moral retards calling the very people who are going to be doing the winning "moral cowards."
I find that 1st paragraph hilarious since that's exactly what I'm getting from you.
Read through the rest of this post moron, damn near everyone here is the very same I speak of. "Oh we've lost, there's no hope", "have faith, [insert influential person] will lead us to victory!", etc. None of them dare be the ones to act.
Show me where these right-wing moral authorities are going to bring us to victory? Every last damn one of them has terminal cancer of the personality, hell my neighbor has fucking brain cancer and she's full of piss and vinegar to get shooting while she can. 30 years I've been on this planet, and so far I'm the only one I've met that truly believes in the virtues that the right turned into bumper sticker slogans.
And for your information, I did find Jesus a long time ago. Too many Christians in name only, too many churches twisting the word of God to suit their needs has led me to where I am.
https://patriots.win/p/16ZXChfSH0/x/c/4TogeKodcPc
You're fucked in the head, dude, as was your father, and your grandparents. You have no hope of preaching to anyone with that kind of background. You're functionally and constitutionally unable to understand. You're completely damaged in the social relationship department. And believe me, it comes across in spades.
You have no ability to evaluate me because a) you have no functioning ability to evaluate anyone due to your own issues, and b) because you don't know where I'm coming from.
I have at least a partial ability to evaluate your bullshit because you've over-shared. Your "moral cowardice" comments about people trying to feed their kids makes sense, because you're completely fucked in the head. You're damaged. You've been hurt deeply, in a way that is never going to fully heal, and in a way that absolutely does impact your ability to properly relate to someone else. That isn't your fault, but it does mean you should find some other expert to help you try to understand what is missing and non-functional in your makeup, and also listen when someone on your side is telling you, "you don't understand, and dude, you're fucked up and need some help."
Or, you know, keep spouting your bullshit and making enemies.
Fuck off already, I'm done talking to people that do nothing but complain and act superior.
"Will somebody please think of the children?!" You do realize the nation was founded by families and fought for buy, wait for it, also families with children right?
No, it wasn't. The families with kids stayed home. It was a young man's war.
The average age of a Revolutionary War soldier is a little spotty to pin down due to poorbrecords, but it was around 20 years old.
The average age of a combatant in the Civil War was even younger. It was 18-19 in the north, 17 in the Confederacy.
"At the time of America's founding in 1776, the average newly-minted American citizen could expect to live to the ripe old age of 35, giving them a few months to run for the presidency before they keeled over." - https://longevity.technology/news/usa-embrace-longevity-or-grow-old-fast/amp/
Also,
"The average age of women at first childbearing was 23.45 years. century. The coefficient was found to be statistically insignificant. It is interesting that no relationship was found to exist between marital age and wealth." https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/anthpubs/ucb/text/kas042-004.pdf
So, to make my point again, most were parents during the revolutionary war.
Neither of those sources pertain to our discussion.
A) The "average life expectancy" is due to the extreme likelihood of early deaths. Those individuals who survived early childhood lived a normal life expectancy.
B) The "average life expectancy" has nothing at all to do with parentage, offspring, or wars. Those who fought in the Revolutionary War were predominantly young, childless males. Those who needed to care for children were extremely unlikely to be a member of a regular military unit. They may respond to support in a local skirmish, but were not part of the continental army or larger regular militia units that would engage in battle.
You say none.of those sources are relevant here and yet I count zero citations for any of your arguments. Please include them in your rebuttals
I think you are missing my point a bit. No one is saying bring your kids to a gun fight, I am saying is they had them. 20 years old is old in revolutionary war terms when the average was age of death was about 35. So I'd you didn't already have children by 20, you probably were going to have them. In the words of Thomas Paine; " I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it be in my time that my CHILDREN [added emphasis] may know peace."
No, no, and no.
This is just a complete load of bullshit. It was extremely common for older men to marry younger women. A 30-year-old dude marrying an 18-year old woman (both virgins) was not out of the ordinary.
Do tell, what regiment was Thomas Paine in? What battles did he partake in? Which troops did he lead? Was he a commander? A general? A footsoldier?
He enlisted in the Pennsylvania Associators, a volunteer regiment to assist if and when it was needed. That regiment never saw battle. It was deployed to the shores of New Jersey to oppose a British landing that turned out to be in strength. Rather than commit suicide, the Pennsylvania Associators disbanded on the spot and went home.
So Paine walked to Fort Lee and tried to join a regular unit there. He was promptly drummed out of service, being told by senior officers that he had no place and no business being in the military. Instead, he was attached to General Nathanael Greene, where he served as a his secretary and used his time to write some of his pamphlets and letters, including the Crisis pamphlets, once of which was sent to George Washington, who read Paine's words to his troops. This was the famous "sunshine patriots" letter.
Paine was then dismissed from the military and sent to Congress to conduct diplomacy and negotiations on behalf of the country, since he was unsuited to being a combatant in the army. George Washington read Paine's letter to his troops at Christmas in 1776. By January, Paine was in Washington and appointed Secretary to the United States Council of Safety. His first task was negotiating a treaty with the Iroquois.
Even your hand-picked example of the Revolutionary War being fought by parents turns out to be false. Complete hokum.
They did have children, they did have families but still fought against the Crown even when their wives and children were imprisoned. The Founders risked it all for something they believed in, they suffered during their time ending up dead or impoverished, but they are remembered now as heroes.
John Brown had family, yet he and his sons fought for the liberation of Slaves in the South and fought Pro-Slavers in Kansas. Sure opinion on him is mixed but he believed in his cause and was willing to die for it.
William Travis put it all on the line along with the other Mexican and American settlers in Texas when they stood against Santa Anna. The Mayan people did the same in the Yucatan and fought for nearly a century or more.
Athens Tennessee, WW2 Veterans seized control of their local elections after they got screwed by Fraud putting their families on the line.
They lived in a very different world.
Automatic weapons. Drones. Missiles. A system of communication that allows your government to track what you say and where you are when you say it. The british forbid large gatherings. Today they’d have just listened in on every gathering.
Water is still wet in a world where the sun rises in the East and it does so over a land they’d find incomprehensible.
All that tech worked great in the middle east.
...wait.
We didn’t have the Middle East half as wired as your neighborhood is right now.
Because this website is hounded by low energy "TwO mOre WeEk" comments in place of call for action.
I find it to be more full of low energy “wHeN WiLL sOmEoNe eLsE dO sOmEtHiNg!”
Question .. the Lake campaign have been saying that the election has to be certified to allow them the opportunity to launch the lawsuits ..Any truth in that?
Yes. Between Bannon’s War Room and Lindell TV, those from the campaign have been giving regular updates. They mentioned that according to AZ law, the election has to be certified first before the lawyers can do anything. But the lawyers have a strong case on all sides.
But it’s still disgusting that Katie Robs has to be certified first.
Yes. But it wont matter
Lawsuits? Let me guess......."no standing"
I read that K. Lake has to wait until the election has been certified to file her lawsuits...otherwise no standing maybe? Anyway, I think (I hope) we will see some action from her soon.
I'm here in California and I honestly don't know what to do
Get that California Succession movement going again. Isolate the cities.
Just disconnect the power
The old ' pull the extention chord' trick should work here.
Roadrunner' style. Beep, beep
Works everytime. Plus it'll be fun watching the elections stealers gasp with virtue when they find out someone pulled the plug on purpose. Will be 'threat to our democracy' on repeat. REEE Who pulled the plug..REEEE insurrection Reee
Yup. Just go shoot up the substations.
I’m just shocked they haven’t outright stole NC yet. As a southerner that’s lived in both I refuse to believe that state is Red while GA is Blue. NC is absolutely infested with leftists from NY. That’s what makes the steal of GA so obvious to me
LE is not your friend, they will dance with the partner that brings the most corrupt crypto currency.
I think anyone who starts a thread like this should list all of the ways they are fighting election fraud in the OP. That way the rest can follow their example.
I think this is like year 1982 in USSR. The system is still working but everybody knows it is rotten and corrupted and not sustainable.The massive inertia will keep it working for a while longer but the federal and many state governments are rotting away from the inside, slowly but surely.
My fellow Americans let me down everyday, I’m getting too used to it… from coast to coast, we’re chock full of retards that prefer a clown world to reality.
Nah only half the country is retarded. The other half is too fat and comfortable to do anything except whine.
Golly gee my election is being stolen but I don’t want to take off work to go protest that’s asking a lot.
Join me in sending them a shoebox full of shit, I have collected a number of Labrador turds over the past few days and will be sending this out today.
How do you vote out people you didn't vote in. Criminals don't care about protests. As long as you are peaceful you are safely ignored. Protests did nothing to stop Biden from taking over and running this country into the ground. Protests are doing nothing in Brazil. Calling in the military is Brazil's only hope. Our only viable options in these scenarios are litigation and violence. We are trying litigation first. Unfortunately the American people still haven't suffered enough to gain the support we need to take physical action and not receive devastating blowback. It's too important to be pulling a Kanye and taking one step forward and two steps back.
Arizona IS lost. The election fix is in. Trump has no chance of winning in 2024. If Biden runs in 2024 he's a shoe-in to win. Hobbs, Whitmer in MI and Kelly in KS. Face it, America doesn't care.
If everything is so above board, why is it necessary to have a livestream rather than a live celebration of this victory of theirs, afraid that it would be a no show???
The RINOS don’t like her.
And plenty of the McCain machine still around to sabotage Lake out of spite.