Boebert and Gaetz have already said he is a liar, why would they believe him? The only possible way would be to make the commitments public and bring back the ability to remove the speaker with a vote. Even then, I would say "hell no"
While I agree, we need to understand the sacrifice of holding Biden admin accountable because there will be no committees or oversight without a speaker. I am cool with that if there is little chance he will keep word and bury his career to protect swamp interests. I trust the 20 at this point because I have little else to trust. If they give him a chance with supposed concessions, then I guess I am OK with it. Time will tell. Never let perfection interfere with progress and compromise.
Do you actually think these committees will hold anybody accountable?
Jim Jordan is a play-actor. It's all a fucking LARP to sell a narrative funded by shit like Google.
These motherfuckers are all corrupt - Marjorie Taylor Green was taking liberal dick up her kooch at a Crossfit Gym. Her husband divorced her for that.
All of it. Not a single "investigation" matters. McCarthy and the Bidens have already met to discuss what "limits" to set on everything they're "investigating." Roleplay.
I have been saying she looks like a tranny for years and got down voted when she was still the golden child of this site. Just goes to show the people on this site would simp and fuck a tranny if they were right wing
I think there is a chance you are correct, in which case the speaker makes almost zero difference. Again, worth a shot if the 20 think it is... Otherwise the only recourse 2A and true-swamp McCarthy speaker gets us there faster.
You are correct and I'm with you, but what in your personal opinion knowing all the institutions are corrupt and will hold nobody accountable unless it's us the peasants is your plan not poking fun being serious 👍
McCarthy is a fucking snake. Anything they can do to prevent him from being the speaker is good with me. This process is also making people show their true colors. Anyone that didn't already think Hannity was a cuck, sees the bullshit shilling he is doing for McCarthy. Same with Hugh Hewitt. I was in the North East over the holidays and heard his show and he was shilling for McCarthy. He even defended the Turtle. We are seeing some of the so called "Conservatives" talking like the swamp. Even if McCarthy end up winning, we will have exposed even more of the Swamp Things.
Totally agree on all accounts. I wonder what Trump is thinking at this point? He seems to be trying to make hay out of giant turd of backing McCarthy - but for all I know he was playing both sides of this. I don't even try to figure some of this shit out anymore because you never know what is real or true until way after the fact.
The only thing I can think is he is playing 5D chess. He says he supports McCarthy to make it look like he is part of the establishment to make his detractors to backdown. On the other side, he expects the 20 to stand fast and get McCarthy out, or at a minimum get a shit load of demands that negate the house leaders power. If McCarthy wins, hey Trump supported him. If he loses, we win and Trump can still be in a position of power. Now he has used up some of his capital with MAGA, but he could earn that back.
Sure - but it is one thing to be thought a snake and another to remove all doubt. And, no media job is going to have NEARLY the power, glory and money of being speaker over several terms...
The concessions are meaningless. If they can simply gridlock the house for as long as possible, that is far more valuable than any concessions that snake will give lipservice to. They must never give in.
^ this. I could give a rats ass if any congress gop or dem has a speaker. It's the same shit with a different logo.
If McCarthy is serious on any concessions then it has to be put in paper and publicly announced. No more secret meetings on how they will backstab the American people.
Clearly Kevin is going to keep the border open and send money to Ukraine. What else is he giving republicans that they should concede, any other speaker can do what he’s “saying”
I saw him last night. He drives me crazy too. Look if they put firth a name and 200 people move over, great. After 6 votes of little movement it seems they have to get it together.
Amazing how many keep ignoring this as if it’s not the single biggest problem we have. We will never “win” any election where they are used, any that actually matter until those machines are gone.
Low-key sad to see Cosby dunking on this site of all places. Razorfist did a great video covering how he was actually innocent and one of the media's first big targets in this new era because he wasn't doing everything they wanted him to do (same happened with Michael Jackson, they couldn't control him and his messages. Worth a watch for those out of the loop.
I really don't think the WEF-anointed Speaker of the House candidate would betray his word just to further the WEF 2030 Reset agenda. This is conspiracy nonsense from the far-right terrorists.
It's just like a MLM scheme! Raise the most money, and you get the promotions.
McCarthy should go lead a non-profit. He'd be great at running a PAC, not running the House.
Most RINOs love the idea of living in a world where their money translates to political power. But they hate that the government has the most money. They are fools chasing Mammon. And arrogant fools, too. The worst kind. I'd rather be friends with a communist who knows they are stupid than an oligarchist who thinks they are the smartest person in the room.
The concession shows a vote for the term limit bill.
Some of the other concessions show a move toward controlling the budget, but obviously not in a significant amount like a balanced budget amendment would accomplish.
There is only one concession that matters at this point.
It's now or never to get rid of Kevin. If McCarthy is installed and keeps the reigns on the house funding PAC, he'll even more blatantly sabotage MAGA reps to secure his position of power. He's a proven liar. Give him time to consolidate power and he'll take your head when he can.
Translation: McCarthy makes “promises” which he will immediately renege once he gets what he wants. Not only will he not keep his promises, he will do the opposite to punish the dissenters and reward his friends in the Communist Democrat party, which he is not so secretly a part of.
It's kind of a tell as to how much disdain these people have for the peasants. They don't think anyone can see how hollow the words of politicians are these days. You listen to them talk, they're convinced that the entire world sees them as honest and transparent.
So what? WEF RINOs made concessions and deals with Trump, and then betrayed him. Nobody in congress is going to care if McCarthy betrays a bunch of outsider candidates, who will be cheated out of their re-election, like we just witnessed in Nov. Bobert out of all people should realise this.
No, his word is worthless.
Yep. They really believe this swamp snake is going to keep his word???
No, they believe you will believe their lies.
Boebert and Gaetz have already said he is a liar, why would they believe him? The only possible way would be to make the commitments public and bring back the ability to remove the speaker with a vote. Even then, I would say "hell no"
While I agree, we need to understand the sacrifice of holding Biden admin accountable because there will be no committees or oversight without a speaker. I am cool with that if there is little chance he will keep word and bury his career to protect swamp interests. I trust the 20 at this point because I have little else to trust. If they give him a chance with supposed concessions, then I guess I am OK with it. Time will tell. Never let perfection interfere with progress and compromise.
Do you actually think these committees will hold anybody accountable?
Jim Jordan is a play-actor. It's all a fucking LARP to sell a narrative funded by shit like Google.
These motherfuckers are all corrupt - Marjorie Taylor Green was taking liberal dick up her kooch at a Crossfit Gym. Her husband divorced her for that.
All of it. Not a single "investigation" matters. McCarthy and the Bidens have already met to discuss what "limits" to set on everything they're "investigating." Roleplay.
I have been saying she looks like a tranny for years and got down voted when she was still the golden child of this site. Just goes to show the people on this site would simp and fuck a tranny if they were right wing
I think there is a chance you are correct, in which case the speaker makes almost zero difference. Again, worth a shot if the 20 think it is... Otherwise the only recourse 2A and true-swamp McCarthy speaker gets us there faster.
I have seen references to her cheating on him but thought it was just meanness coming from BlueAnons.
Wait whaaaat? I don't follow MTG all that closely
A basic summary, this bitch LARPed as a Q-fanatic, Pro-Life, Traditional Life "Far right" politician in her act.
And then she cashed in on it, fucked around on her husband whom she'd been married to since 1995, and he divorced her for it.
Perry Greene is his name. I'd say it's a mess, but this whole country is destined for hell so I don't really feel surprised.
You are correct and I'm with you, but what in your personal opinion knowing all the institutions are corrupt and will hold nobody accountable unless it's us the peasants is your plan not poking fun being serious 👍
Lindsey Graham is all over it. Any day now.
McCarthy is a fucking snake. Anything they can do to prevent him from being the speaker is good with me. This process is also making people show their true colors. Anyone that didn't already think Hannity was a cuck, sees the bullshit shilling he is doing for McCarthy. Same with Hugh Hewitt. I was in the North East over the holidays and heard his show and he was shilling for McCarthy. He even defended the Turtle. We are seeing some of the so called "Conservatives" talking like the swamp. Even if McCarthy end up winning, we will have exposed even more of the Swamp Things.
Totally agree on all accounts. I wonder what Trump is thinking at this point? He seems to be trying to make hay out of giant turd of backing McCarthy - but for all I know he was playing both sides of this. I don't even try to figure some of this shit out anymore because you never know what is real or true until way after the fact.
The only thing I can think is he is playing 5D chess. He says he supports McCarthy to make it look like he is part of the establishment to make his detractors to backdown. On the other side, he expects the 20 to stand fast and get McCarthy out, or at a minimum get a shit load of demands that negate the house leaders power. If McCarthy wins, hey Trump supported him. If he loses, we win and Trump can still be in a position of power. Now he has used up some of his capital with MAGA, but he could earn that back.
"bury his career" = post-politics FOX or CNN job with a pay raise, a book deal, and 6 figure speaking engagements.
Sure - but it is one thing to be thought a snake and another to remove all doubt. And, no media job is going to have NEARLY the power, glory and money of being speaker over several terms...
fag
Lol
With that username, he's being hopeful and wants to date you.
Says the guy roll playing Michele's dick.
All these fake Obama accounts are faggots who use it to express their real feelings as a joke.
you wish you could roleplay with my 12 inch
if he doesn't, they can oust him
oh yeah cause that would be simple...
that is one of the demands- make it simpler
one of the concessions he agrees to will make it easier
The concessions are meaningless. If they can simply gridlock the house for as long as possible, that is far more valuable than any concessions that snake will give lipservice to. They must never give in.
yes but they set the bar
if he agrees to the concessions, they will vote for him
i say fuck that, get someone else no matter what he promises
we have to break CA's hold on the government
I believe he’ll keep any promise he makes to democrats.
They have no one else able to get the votes. Go get elected if you want to be in on this in the future.
Tying up the House means shit doesn't get done.
Shit doesn't get done means no more money for Ukraine for the duration.
Who gives a shit if they don't have someone else?
They represent us, we don't represent them. We are intrinsically in on this.
Giving up because you're stalemated is stupid and cowardly.
Sad but its true that doing nothing is infinitely better for the american people than them doing anything.
This is an important point that I'm somewhat surprised to see more people don't get.
It's kinda like a govt shutdown. So what?
^ this. I could give a rats ass if any congress gop or dem has a speaker. It's the same shit with a different logo.
If McCarthy is serious on any concessions then it has to be put in paper and publicly announced. No more secret meetings on how they will backstab the American people.
"oh no the Dems can't get their radical leftist bullshit passed with RINO cucks because there's no speaker"
And oh no, we can start punishing criminals until McCarthy is Speaker
...because that's what he's gonna do with the title. Punish criminals. Uh huh.
Clearly Kevin is going to keep the border open and send money to Ukraine. What else is he giving republicans that they should concede, any other speaker can do what he’s “saying”
No - better candidates (eg. Jordan) are waiting for him to withdraw so they can be nominated.
When you still haven’t realized elections are theatrics
Uniparty Theater
Almost sound like Hannity
I saw him last night. He drives me crazy too. Look if they put firth a name and 200 people move over, great. After 6 votes of little movement it seems they have to get it together.
Right? He's a uniparty RiNO. How are you going to hold him to those concessions?
The only concession he needs to make is to back down. Anything he promises he'll do, another Speaker could do also.
He's a World Economic Forum bitchboy and a fucking wonderful bait to reveal who has been against us from the start.
It's a question not a comment. What is wrong with it? The guy I was responding to is who you should direct your ire at.
trump freed the ultimate swamp creature former mayor of Detroit kwame kilpatrick on his way out of office
Heh. Kwame. That's not a name.
it was the name of the former mayor of Detroit
McCarthy only needs the votes, he can do f*ckall after
oust him if he does not make them
or make an end run and enact the concessions themselves
Make his bitch ass sign a contract
Contracts are worthless when courts dont care
Votes are worthless when Dominion exists
Amazing how many keep ignoring this as if it’s not the single biggest problem we have. We will never “win” any election where they are used, any that actually matter until those machines are gone.
I don't think people ignore it. Voting makes it harder for them to cheat, and it costs next to nothing to do so.
Entirely true that it makes it harder, but we want to make it impossible.
Absolutely. I've seen a disturbing amount of comments though on PDW calling for people to not vote. As if we can't do more than one thing at once
Ding, ding, ding,ding..
And ? He’ll just violate it….
Because the uniparty faces NO CONSEQUENCES
if he signed one and violated it, they could not prove damages so it would be worthless
He's making concessions with the dems probably. And he is a man of his word to them
Of course he is. He is them.
Uniparty gonna uniparty
he is part of the CA cabal
his first loyalty is to them
when Biden resigns/is removed/dies CA will be running the country
I think the freedom caucus should make carrying canes in Congress a thing again.
You know, for walking. And stuff. Yeah.
hopefully not Pelosi's
they keep falling out
a concession from McCarthy is about as trustworthy as a margarita from Bill Cosby
True. Either way you wake up with a sore ass
things we trust more than mccarthy's "concessions":
10 day old gas station sushi off of a port-a-potty toilet seat?
Now I’m hungry…
Username checks out...
Throw in one of those sauce packets that's been in the junk drawer since 1997 and I'm in.
Yogurt from Michelle Obama
Cosby lives matter!
Low-key sad to see Cosby dunking on this site of all places. Razorfist did a great video covering how he was actually innocent and one of the media's first big targets in this new era because he wasn't doing everything they wanted him to do (same happened with Michael Jackson, they couldn't control him and his messages. Worth a watch for those out of the loop.
I know this, and it's disappointing that so many others don't get it.
Kek
as used car salesman who's first name is "Honest"
"Just give me absolute power over you and I promise I'll give you all these concessions once you no longer have any leverage over me."
Exactly.
It's Trump's allegory of the snake
I really don't think the WEF-anointed Speaker of the House candidate would betray his word just to further the WEF 2030 Reset agenda. This is conspiracy nonsense from the far-right terrorists.
One California communist to another, just continuity of power.
His network raised 250 million for the GOP.
He is like the LeBron James of GoP house fund-raising
Wow a bunch of PACs and corporate donors love a uniparty stooge I'm shocked
GOP/DNC u mean? Same shit.
Adults are talking
GOP shills*
He's the Pelosi of the GOP lmao
It's just like a MLM scheme! Raise the most money, and you get the promotions.
McCarthy should go lead a non-profit. He'd be great at running a PAC, not running the House.
Most RINOs love the idea of living in a world where their money translates to political power. But they hate that the government has the most money. They are fools chasing Mammon. And arrogant fools, too. The worst kind. I'd rather be friends with a communist who knows they are stupid than an oligarchist who thinks they are the smartest person in the room.
He prefers the Ukrainian colors, but I get your meaning.
exactly
when Biden is impeached or dies, the "president" and the VP will both be Commifornians
then they vote in a Speaker from CA and they run the whole show
Going to get the votes then stab the freedom caucus in the back, never negotiate with terrorist.
Fuck your concessions.
His words mean nothing.
So had he made these concessions over the last month, he would have avoided all the choas he caused.
Still nothing on the border which is issue 1 and 1a being election integrity. He is worthless on both of these issues.
or the budget or term limits
he is only agreeing to things that don't matter
The concession shows a vote for the term limit bill.
Some of the other concessions show a move toward controlling the budget, but obviously not in a significant amount like a balanced budget amendment would accomplish.
Oh boy a vote!!
This is a fact, he's a RINO shit bird and a shit bird who had over 2 months to figure out the votes and negotiate.
He is just telling them what they want to hear and then he will stab us all in the back.
No reason to trust what he said.
Anything for power!!
only acceptable concession is to set aside
Never trust a RINO, he's gotta go
There is only one concession that matters at this point.
It's now or never to get rid of Kevin. If McCarthy is installed and keeps the reigns on the house funding PAC, he'll even more blatantly sabotage MAGA reps to secure his position of power. He's a proven liar. Give him time to consolidate power and he'll take your head when he can.
Translation: McCarthy makes “promises” which he will immediately renege once he gets what he wants. Not only will he not keep his promises, he will do the opposite to punish the dissenters and reward his friends in the Communist Democrat party, which he is not so secretly a part of.
It's kind of a tell as to how much disdain these people have for the peasants. They don't think anyone can see how hollow the words of politicians are these days. You listen to them talk, they're convinced that the entire world sees them as honest and transparent.
And Trump loves him.
Dont trust him, he's lying
DONT TRUST MCCARTHY MCCARTHY IS ASSHOE!
Ok, but at this point does anyone trust him to actually follow through on anything, after what we've seen from him? Seems like that ship has sailed.
So what? WEF RINOs made concessions and deals with Trump, and then betrayed him. Nobody in congress is going to care if McCarthy betrays a bunch of outsider candidates, who will be cheated out of their re-election, like we just witnessed in Nov. Bobert out of all people should realise this.
Hello NO! The only concession I would take is McCarthy resigning.
NEW CHURCH COMMITTEE OR GTFO
Committee? More than that. I want the old, real McCarthy. Root out ALL of the commies. And the corruption needs to be imprisoned or hung.
This McCarthy is a joke.
I don't care. Fuck him.
Concessions from a known liar? Hopefully the key 20 republicans won't fall for it.
PRIMARIES ARE ONLY 14 MONTHS AWAY~!!!!
Maybe Liz Chaney can be his Campaign manager - she has nothing to do!!
Way too little, far too late. Get fucked, RINO.
There is zero chance that McCarthy will go back on his word.
None whatsoever.
Trust him.
He's honest.
Really, he's not a RINO, he swears.
The issue is TRUST. He cannot be trusted. The more promises he makes, the more promises he breaks. The answer is "no!"
They aren't going to take his word for it, are they?
A RINO'S word is worthless.
11 comments but only 2 are visible? Anyone else having that issue?
That might happen in new threads.
I don't care. Anybody but him.
TERM LIMITS OR GTFO
They better get the ability to vote his ass out.
Don't fucking give an inch. No McCarthy
He said "no" the first time we asked, and now the price went up.
The only concession we want is his retirement.
The only concession that counts is that he withdraws or resigns
NO.