I love your optimism, but there is zero chance that Trump will ever win speaker of the house. You can't honestly believe there's any scenario where a majority of the uniparty would elect him.
He's gotten a total of one vote and he's up against a house full of rinos. There's nothing in this timeline that's going to make Trump speaker of the house.
Plus it looks like McCarthy is nearly there anyway, with Trump's backing.
But hey, if it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want to believe.
If McCarthy stepped aside it'd be a new ballgame. I'm not saying Trump would win, but probably 90% of the McCarthy voters do so because of money he gave them for their campaigns. Trump could give them money too.
“Hopelessly naive” is another level too. McCarthy is not going to resign because of six holdouts, and Trump is doubly not going to win with only one voter against 400 others
a general rule of thumb when dealing with politicians is to assume that they will only actually give you a maximum of 50% of what they promise on the campaign trail
which is why if they're not even openly promising something when they need to be elected you can assume that there's 100% chance they would never do it. if it's like pulling teeth to get him to agree to these common Sense deals then there's no chance he would do it and that's the saddest thing because these are things that all Republican voters want and the leader of the Republican party is refusing to do the things that the voters want. Republican party needs to stop being led by democrats
I think its that and also some denial type thinking, "things are eventually going to snap back to the way they were" they will. Ostrich think. As long as we don't verbalize it, its not real.
While I have my theories and my opinions, I don't claim to know EXACTLY who/why/or what is doing this to us. BUT, to carry on believing that SOMETHING is being done to us, with intent and that the old paradigms are gone....I just don't get it if its anything other than people just sticking their heada in the sand because theyre scared, and understandably scared sure.
He did state best case/worst case. We know the reality will fall somewhere between most likely far too close to the worst case scenario. I’m imagining he’s factoring in the possibility of Jefferis getting in somehow and that being slightly better than them just giving him the seat because at least we know a Dem is a Dem and will focus on losing for America while McCarthy will do the same with a bunch of people cheering him on as if he weren’t, but idk.
60% of GOPare moderates. All but 20 of the remaining republicans are true concervatives. McCarthy definitely represents the members of Congress. Not the people, but definitely the members of Congress. Notice not a single wavering vote except for the 20. There's not a single spine between the lot of them. Shows why the deocrats run the house. They own 75% of Congress even in the minority.
But if this guy doesn't win why would I give Trump anything he just endorsed this guy. If this guy's fails it's going to make Trump look even more f****** stupid then backing this guy in the first place.
Most of their income comes from special interest donations. Their government salary paid for by the people is only a small portion of that. Therefore - special interests are their primary boss. They work for special interests more than the people. Simple.
If it were truly as they claim they would post the audio, no question. Shouted in this context probably means he subtly but discernably raised his voice and expressed displeasure that someone leaked the call info to the human vermin informally known as journalists.
Well at least we should see a lull in reports on what someone tweeted! That bullshit is dumber than hell! I get news all the time about someone who posted pics of them in their sheer top and short shorts all the time! Media at it's absolute finest.
WEF has decided he'll be the speaker. We're just going through the motions now. America is a sub to the WEF.
"We’ll have to see you know we have a couple members who have some family issues," he said when asked about the current framework for a deal, adding "we're going to get it done."
They're threatening their families. I suppose he himself has no family and he believes the opposition have no money to put behind counter-threats.
The Freedom Caucus, finally, is playing hard ball. Sorry to say, some of them don't have the cajones to stay the course. The Freedom Caucus could be the spoiler.
What's depressing me is how people keep mentioning Scalise as the only possible alternative to McCarthy. Sure, I respect Scalise for taking a Bernie-Bot Bullet and recovering, but from a political standpoint he's hardly any better than McCarthy.
Once again we're forced to arrive at the conclusion that the GOP is a damn lost cause. If you knock down one establishmentarian, there's just another one standing behind him.
“We’ll have to see you know we have a couple members who have some family issues," he said when asked about the current framework for a deal, adding "we're going to get it done."
I pray the Freedom Caucus can hold their ground. I think eventually this cucked bastard will go to the Dems to cut a deal. Illusion of a 2 party system be damned. At the end of the day he's not going to stop trying.
😍😍😍 "McCarthy's side thinks they can overcome the opposition by isolating Gaetz - who wasn't invited to negotiations on Wednesday but showed up anyway."
People keep saying "Why doesn't McCarthy just remove his name from consideration, and let someone else try to build consensus?"
He can't. Kevin McCarthy is the leader of the largest fundraising (bribery) organization in the Republican party. The people and organizations who have donated millions to his war chest, didn't do it out of the kindness of their hearts. They were buying access and influence to Kevin McCarthy, future Speaker of the House. If he loses the vote, that's one thing. But if he drops out, some of those people are going to not so delicately want their fucking money back.
Gaetz and Co. know this too, which is why we are where we are.
Well, that was fast. As if he would honor any deal anyway.
Get this guy out, Out, OUT!
Worst case, they just give him the seat, best case he resigns from congress in disgrace and trump squeaks a win
I love your optimism, but there is zero chance that Trump will ever win speaker of the house. You can't honestly believe there's any scenario where a majority of the uniparty would elect him.
Never forget thats what was said when he rode that escalator down in trump tower. DJT SOTH 2023!!!!!
Except we all knew he could win then. There's zero chance of that happening in the house.
This timeline has told us wilder shit is possible
He's gotten a total of one vote and he's up against a house full of rinos. There's nothing in this timeline that's going to make Trump speaker of the house.
Plus it looks like McCarthy is nearly there anyway, with Trump's backing.
But hey, if it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want to believe.
If McCarthy stepped aside it'd be a new ballgame. I'm not saying Trump would win, but probably 90% of the McCarthy voters do so because of money he gave them for their campaigns. Trump could give them money too.
No.... Not really....
There's being optimistic and then there's being unrealistic, they are not the same thing.
“Hopelessly naive” is another level too. McCarthy is not going to resign because of six holdouts, and Trump is doubly not going to win with only one voter against 400 others
I would normally make fun of you in total disagreement
wrong
a general rule of thumb when dealing with politicians is to assume that they will only actually give you a maximum of 50% of what they promise on the campaign trail
which is why if they're not even openly promising something when they need to be elected you can assume that there's 100% chance they would never do it. if it's like pulling teeth to get him to agree to these common Sense deals then there's no chance he would do it and that's the saddest thing because these are things that all Republican voters want and the leader of the Republican party is refusing to do the things that the voters want. Republican party needs to stop being led by democrats
Democrats: "No! No-one can be the current actual President AND the Speaker of The House! Ha, Checkmate!"
If he started getting votes they wouldn't have much choice, same people who elected them support him.
Are you under some illusion that the will of the people matters for the uniparty? They have a choice and it will be to not vote for him.
It continues to bewilder me how many people still do.
There are a lot of people on here living in some sort of fantasy land
I think its that and also some denial type thinking, "things are eventually going to snap back to the way they were" they will. Ostrich think. As long as we don't verbalize it, its not real.
While I have my theories and my opinions, I don't claim to know EXACTLY who/why/or what is doing this to us. BUT, to carry on believing that SOMETHING is being done to us, with intent and that the old paradigms are gone....I just don't get it if its anything other than people just sticking their heada in the sand because theyre scared, and understandably scared sure.
Buddy they'll just vote for the Democrat if trump starts getting votes. Why do you think we're stalling them?
He did state best case/worst case. We know the reality will fall somewhere between most likely far too close to the worst case scenario. I’m imagining he’s factoring in the possibility of Jefferis getting in somehow and that being slightly better than them just giving him the seat because at least we know a Dem is a Dem and will focus on losing for America while McCarthy will do the same with a bunch of people cheering him on as if he weren’t, but idk.
If enough of their constituents made their voices heard, then maybe.
They won’t have a choice. Watch
Yeah watch. McCarthy's only 3 off now after the 13th vote.
60% of GOPare moderates. All but 20 of the remaining republicans are true concervatives. McCarthy definitely represents the members of Congress. Not the people, but definitely the members of Congress. Notice not a single wavering vote except for the 20. There's not a single spine between the lot of them. Shows why the deocrats run the house. They own 75% of Congress even in the minority.
At this point, HODLing the line with GameStop is a better bet than trying to get McCarthy to resign.
wrong
But if this guy doesn't win why would I give Trump anything he just endorsed this guy. If this guy's fails it's going to make Trump look even more f****** stupid then backing this guy in the first place.
Perhaps McCarthy is another demonstration project. You must show the people.
Maybe not the best case but a good oone would be two years of voting g and no other business done.
he's from California, dummy. what did you expect?
Always need to remind myself of that from time to time
We have some excellent non RINO reps as well. Not all California R’s are RINOS
Not even good at being a snake
He loves trouser snake
Frank Luntz enters trousers.
"And I will not release those families until the members agree to vote for me"
Maybe this is all a play to get trump in.
that is the play
1 Get Trump in
2 Impeach Pedo Joe
3 Impeach Kumala
4 President Trump!
This requires lethal doses of copium, but I'll take a hit.
I can quite any time i want to i have this addiction under control. pass me a hit as well.
You must be a glutton for punishment for the withdrawal symptoms from that level of copium
Q predicted this. WWG1WGA. ShadowpreZ
A long shot but I'll take another shot of hopium
This also helps define why Trump endorsed him. If true.
OMG what if it was reverse psychology all along
Tick tock, 2 more weeks
I've developed a high tolerance to hopium over the last few years and so I'm not affected at all.
You really think the vipers are going to let in the mongoose?
I dunno after the last three years anything is possible
it is
You are a representative. Not a leader, Shouldn’t be any back room deals. They work for the people. Not special interests
laughs in McCarthy
laughs in politician
Laughs in Dominion
Laughs in revolving door
Satanic laughs in Killary
Laughs in German
laughs while crying
Most of their income comes from special interest donations. Their government salary paid for by the people is only a small portion of that. Therefore - special interests are their primary boss. They work for special interests more than the people. Simple.
doubt.exe has executed successfully
If it were truly as they claim they would post the audio, no question. Shouted in this context probably means he subtly but discernably raised his voice and expressed displeasure that someone leaked the call info to the human vermin informally known as journalists.
Well at least we should see a lull in reports on what someone tweeted! That bullshit is dumber than hell! I get news all the time about someone who posted pics of them in their sheer top and short shorts all the time! Media at it's absolute finest.
Agreed, and wasn’t Zerohedge the site that published an incorrect Sandy Hook article that got AJ sued for reporting on?
Right, feel like ZH always does this, I end up scrolling up and down waiting for it to load.
This fag still writes under the Tyler Durden pseudonym - which is an embarrassment circa 2002 let alone 2022.
Squeal piggy!
No, that's Frank Luntz's job...
thanks for the visual I could live without
Notice how the democrats show up to vote every time and all vote the party line?
NEVER KEVIN
Bye Felicia
Kevin really thought he'd just waltz right into the Speakership like it was his right
Now he's freaking out because he's not getting his way... Pussy
NEVER KEVIN
WEF has decided he'll be the speaker. We're just going through the motions now. America is a sub to the WEF.
They're threatening their families. I suppose he himself has no family and he believes the opposition have no money to put behind counter-threats.
McCarthy knows that if he stepped down that Jordan would get voted in unanimously, and nothing would embarrass him more, not even all these no votes.
The Freedom Caucus, finally, is playing hard ball. Sorry to say, some of them don't have the cajones to stay the course. The Freedom Caucus could be the spoiler.
I hope we don't have a Speaker for the entirety of the 118th Congress.
we can't have a congress until we have a speaker
Your terms are acceptable.
OH HE MAAAAD. Haha! Ya love to see it.
Eat shit coward.
NO MORE CALIFORNIANS IN POWER
Seethe and Dilate RINO bastard.
Reading the article, what deal?
there is no deal
Dude is insane. He thinks he's king of congress. Fuck califaggots.
*** Old man yells at clouds ***
“It’s my turn it’s my turn this isn’t fair!!!!!!” stomps feet
hahaha he's losing it. his donors want their money back hahahahahaha
Quite likely
Good. It would have been a disaster if they caved to this so called deal. The deal would have been broken on day 1 with no remorse or apology.
What's depressing me is how people keep mentioning Scalise as the only possible alternative to McCarthy. Sure, I respect Scalise for taking a Bernie-Bot Bullet and recovering, but from a political standpoint he's hardly any better than McCarthy.
Once again we're forced to arrive at the conclusion that the GOP is a damn lost cause. If you knock down one establishmentarian, there's just another one standing behind him.
McCarthy has officially passed Bill Mitchell as the biggest faggot of them all.
Frank Luntz says, "Oh, my!"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
"It's My Turn!" Hillary syndrome!
Not at all ominous
This is real now. If anything happens to the families of these reps, Patriots need to create vacancies in response.
he was referring to Buck and Hunt.
Buck had surgery: https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/speaker-of-the-house-position-remains-empty-following-11-rounds-of-voting
Hunt had a son born : https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3802485-incoming-texas-republican-returning-to-texas-after-son-born-prematurely/
I pray the Freedom Caucus can hold their ground. I think eventually this cucked bastard will go to the Dems to cut a deal. Illusion of a 2 party system be damned. At the end of the day he's not going to stop trying.
He is unfit to hold the position. Now it's more obvious than ever.
They can't consider anyone else for Speaker, and are willing to demonize their own people and run to dems to get their way.
Tells you everything, once again.
😍😍😍 "McCarthy's side thinks they can overcome the opposition by isolating Gaetz - who wasn't invited to negotiations on Wednesday but showed up anyway."
FUCK YEAH! GO GAETZ!
Never trust a backstabbing liar
Sounds like a butthurt loser. That's how butthurt losers act when they're losing.
Excellent…… excellent….
How did we lose 11. McCarthy should be losing ground.
People keep saying "Why doesn't McCarthy just remove his name from consideration, and let someone else try to build consensus?"
He can't. Kevin McCarthy is the leader of the largest fundraising (bribery) organization in the Republican party. The people and organizations who have donated millions to his war chest, didn't do it out of the kindness of their hearts. They were buying access and influence to Kevin McCarthy, future Speaker of the House. If he loses the vote, that's one thing. But if he drops out, some of those people are going to not so delicately want their fucking money back.
Gaetz and Co. know this too, which is why we are where we are.
McCarthy is also being blackmailed six ways from Sunday. It's more than just his job or his finances on the line.
DC is the largest prostitution district in the world.
The voting will continue until morale improves.
Hang this fucking traitor.
His mask of sanity is starting to slip.