I'm actually quite bothered by a good bit of this stuff. It has always preoccupied my thoughts since I was very young. I'm constantly wondering just how dumb I am by observing the world around me and trying to decide if it's me that is the problem with why things don't make sense/don't work the way they should, or if it's the other people around me.
Like, it gets to the point of being a curse, so badly that I have read a lot of literature trying to understand it. That's when I started to uncover things like people not having an internal dialog.
That was just kind of disturbing. I can't imagine what it must be like to just.... live and breathe, as a human being, and not have an internal dialog. You must be more akin to some base form of life like a mollusk to live like that. It makes me really uncomfortable thinking about it. I always assumed that certain animals were that way, but once I learned that there are people like that, the implications just made me really uneasy.
It's roughly one in four people. Also about 10% of the populace are too low IQ to manage being a marine. And they have an absolutely low bar (I think it's 86 IQ).
This is the burden that NPCs literally can't comprehend.
I believe part of the reason is damage to the pineal gland / heavy metals supressing brain activity... because I think I was one of those people 5-6 years ago before doing various shit to get my health right.... although I always had internal thoughts, I think there was some aspect of not being able to match patterns I didnt have before.
Part of it was I was an alcoholic (almost 7 years sober) although I did have periods where I went hard on exercise during and after, I felt off... so much so that i felt for almost 3 years sober that I was in a fog (known as Post-Accute Withdrawl Syndrome)... about a week after doing a regimine of iodine drops I felt as if the fog lifted.
Then the next break through was with joint pain and inflamation and pain by removing wheat and bread, although that wasn't perfect and still have flair-ups when consumong too much of a trigger food, removing that made an immediate difference.
Then when I went low carb, I stopped feeling depressed, stopped having mood swings and competly stopped craving alcohol almost daily. Then when I tried a lithium supplment (which is a way way lower dose than they give to bipolar patients) my tendency to not being able to sit still went away instantly. High levels of vitamin D seems to have been big, Eliminating caffiene was the biggest single thing to eliminate anexiety..
The only downside from where I am now to say 4 years ago when this all began in earnest is I don't have the same edge that nicotine gave me, and I realize that I have to remain mostly low carb because too many for too long leads me to start to have the mood symtoms.
The thing about all of it was, I didn't even realize that I was sick until doing these things. 10 years ago I was at my strongest but I felt absolutly miserable in every way and it was demoralizing pushing myself hard and feeling that way. Also even though I could go hard for 2-3 hours on a bike I could not run at all without being in severe pain... now I can run 5+ miles 3-5x a week no problem.
Edit. Sorry for this being so long but THIS feels like my lifes' work, to get to "normal", because all I knew was health problems
That's crazy, I recently found the iodine stuff too. Apparently we have almost none of it in our diets, and it's a required mineral for so many things in our health. I bought some and tried it for a few days and I felt like I could notice a difference. I need to start using it again on the regular. The guy who got me into it uses it daily and he swears it was a game changer for him.
As for regular diet, I also have noticed there are tons of things that make me feel horrible. Alcohol being one of the worst ones. When I was a young man, I could go on a bender and then get up early the next morning and go to work. Not anymore. I have to plan if I'm going to drink anything, which means it's really and truly just not worth the effort. I like a lot of different alcoholic drinks - gin and tonic, lots of whiskey, cider and craft beer - I just can't drink them without feeling like shit.
So these days I tend to just avoid them entirely. Every once in awhile I'll get in the mood and will have something, but I almost always pay for it.
I've wanted to investigate a low carb/high fat and protein diet. I've seen some stuff about eating mostly meats and other proteins, like eggs and fish. More or less a keto style diet, but not quite as strict. Instead of focusing on staying in keto, you just focus on staying away from bad foods that cause inflammation. I've tried it a few times, and it seems to be alright, I just haven't stuck with them long term for various reasons/excuses.
I've also found that there are a handful of supplements that help with brainfog/cognition. I'm sure it's different for each person and you have to find a combination that supports what you're diet is missing.
I started out pretty low, and then learned rhat it's pretty safe overall. So I usually just add roughly a good squeeze to my food, which averages out to being about 1/4 or so of a dropper.
I'll usually do that with one meal a day, sometimes skipping.
I don't get super precise with it, I just slap some on there.
I switched to a low carb diet for health reasons a couple years ago. I have more energy and feel way better in general. I used to wake up sore every day and that’s gone. I can also skip a meal now and it doesn’t bother me.
I like guarana tablets instead of caffeine, but make sure it's a brand like Kal with low caffeine (it has a bit naturally and you can break into smaller pieces). It lasts around 6 hours and has different chems. Or try tyrosine on an empty stomach. You mentioned nicotine so I'll say that the patches work and some brands can be cut into pieces to save money (Habitrol) add med tape to cut side.
Congrats on the almost 7, 25 months here. I don't think I have the fog anymore, but maybe I don't know any differently. What was the iodine regimen? I'm curious.
I would recomend finding the book or pdf "iodine - why you need it, why you cant live without it" for a full understanding but his procol is a pyramid where one starts at 3-5mg/daily of lugols iodine and it works up all the way to 50mg then goes down to a 5-10mg mainence dose. There are a few things that help to take with it like selenium, sea salt and vitamin C (but you cannot take C and Iodine at the same time as C nutralizes it)
The book explains why but if you are really 'sick' then you will end up having a "herxheimer reaction" because the body will be eliminating floride and bromide which can displace iodine since it competes for the same receptors in glandular tissue.
Removing lead from gasoline in the 70’s-80’s and the downward trend in overall violence in the US is an amazing example of metal toxins in the environment.
I worry about our water supply. There are heavy metals that don't really, uhh, "go away" very easily.
They're instead absorbed into multiple ecological layers and become part of the food chain. It's a similar issue with microplastics. They just keep getting passed around.
For example, I love fly fishing. I really love grilling up some wild caught fish, especially when they're natives and weren't stocked. But I'm always hesitant on eating them in certain watersheds, because of the contamination we now have.
I feel a lot better going to the arctic and catching salmon, than I do eating catfish out of the Mississippi for example.
Well, you can simulate not having an internal dialogue with meditation. I went through a period of heavy meditation-type training some years back and after some time of this I found that I was in a general state of living in the moment, with no internal dialogue.
If it isn't one of the books you've already read, I'd recommend reading Curse of the High IQ by Aaron Clarey. It's a deep dive into the pros, cons, and the behavioral patterns of those with very high IQs, along with things that can be done to mitigate some of the negative behaviors and tendencies (self-medicating, higher instances of drug/alcohol abuse, and dealing with normies).
Also reminds me of the study that a good portion of people don't have an internal dialogue.
Every time IQ gets mentioned, all the retards come out with "hurr durr no internal monologue" (Yes, monologue. "Dialogue" would imply there are 2 people in your head)
I have no internal monologue. Feel free to ask me questions.
Different pede, but I happen to fall somewhere on the edge, there are some things I contemplate with an IM, but much of what I do for work, for example, is reasoned out spacially or I almost have a visualization of a decision tree in my mind.
Personally, I find when I’m using my IM, it’s new territory for me, or I’m modeling a conversation with another person. It also feels really slow. Slower than conversational speed. When I’m in a more comfortable space (like spacial reasoning, logical reasoning, or sequential reasoning) I can hold multiple permutations and outcomes in my mind easily, visualize them in my minds eye, and it feels lightening fast. Almost as if it just pops into my mind out of the ether.
This is probably why I was attracted to my profession, which is extremely heavy on spacial reasoning.
All that said, I have met a number of other people without an internal dialogue in my profession. Let’s just say that I don’t think an IM is correlated to IQ. I score in the mid 140s, a close friend is definitely 10-15 points higher than me with no IM at all. Then we both have co-workers who we assume must be 90-100 IQ yet have the spacial acuity to do what we do. They have No IM based on lunchroom talk.
I think IQ is more a measure of raw general computing power, but a lower IQ mind that is hyper-specialized at one task will destroy a 200 IQ person at that specific task.
I’ve seen that kind of stuff before. I can hear it in his voice, but it’s very much voluntary. What I default to seems to depend on my mood or stress level.
When you read something what happens? Like if I am casually reading something for enjoyment I have a "mental echo" when reading it. I can fast skim stuff and not have that but I don't remember it as well.
Also when performing an action how do you model how you predict that action will go? Or do you?
Lol yeah it's odd how all these new terms get thrown out. It's just mentally thinking within your own mind. Like trying to think what you should write on a paper.
Some people cannot do that mental thinking to themselves and just blindly write.
Also when performing an action how do you model how you predict that action will go?
I visualize it. E.g. if I'm waiting for a doctor's appointment, I'll imagine myself sitting in the doctor's office answering questions, and my brain will run through different scenarios how it could go.
Reading this I still have a hard time believing it. There are entire nations where the average IQ is 85 or lower. So half would be dumber than that, yet most people can read.
The higher IQs left to become doctors and scientists! Then the rest stayed and struggled on without them, and to this day their kids cross that river on the way to “school” using a rope and some hope!
I know people have trouble with hypotheticals, but it's hard to believe the IQ level at which they become difficult is only 90. I would have guessed 65 or 70. Being smart is a fucking curse.
If you look at the world we live in, it's not a lack of intelligence that correlates to a lack of empathy, damn near everyone in power lacks empathy in our world today.
All this illustrates is that the dumb mother fuckers are the ones that take from society in ways that get them caught.
I will quit my job and retire from political commentary If you can justify the current state of your vaccine mandate and let me tell you why I got the vaccine a year and a 1/2 ago because I believed it was our path out of the pandemic
meaning they told us it was safe and effective
A year and a 1/2 later that vaccine is no longer protected me I can go get a job with the state but someone today who never got the vaccine. The same protection as me which is none can never get a job with the state
One thing that always bothered me was how often the court system will try to remove agency from someone. Like with Muslim rapists in Europe, they will argue, that they didn't know right from wrong, I mean right from wrong is such a basic concept, a child taking a cookie from the cookie jar after they were told not to, can explicitly understand when they get yelled at that they fucked up. Hell even dogs understand this and I don't think most dogs are operating anywhere near room temperature iq.
This is the internet, anyone can take samples of your writing from your social media history and plug them into an analyzer and get an estimate of your IQ
Testing different CNN reporters using their articles, I got IQs ranging from 102 to 127.
Testing different 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theorists using posts from one of their Facebook groups, I got IQs ranging from 75 to 89.
The algorithm assumes that when writing the text, the author put thought behind every sentence he wrote. Furthermore, it assumes that the author didn't purposefully attempt to dumb himself down and is sufficiently fluent in English as to not be restricted in his choice of words. Ideally, you should paste in a paper, article or another document that you have written and are proud of.
EDIT: Also, I imagine that taking an assorted sample of disconnected posts that don't actually go together and including them all in one sample is probably going result in a lower IQ rating than a single sample that is all meant to be part of a single coherent piece of writing.
EDIT 2: Furthering my point, I ran your own posts through your link. It swung back and forth as I put your full page worth of posts in, but at one point your combined posts brought you down to an IQ rating of 84.
I can't remember my email or password from years ago when I was on that site. I used to be interested in high end puzzles, and the highest end were always these discriminate IQ tests. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Nowadays the only puzzles I do are on chess.com where my "puzzle" skill is international master. Over the board, I'm not even a master anymore, don't have enough patience…
This hits home a lot for me. I can't tell you how many times i've argued with liberals who always say "if we only give them more money, more help.. they'll climb out of poverty and squalor". You cannot give stupid people money and expect them to start living better. Poverty is a lifestyle.. not an outcome. The intelligent may find themselves poor due to bad circumstances/luck, but they can always figure a way out of it. The stupid wind up there despite all the help. Its why so many lottery winners wind up broke after a few years. its why so many professional athletes wind up broke after their careers are over.
The other day I was trying to explain a three-dimensional array to someone and how I was using it to keep track of machine states and got absolutely no where with him.
Finally had to just say "Well it's fucking magic. Just accept it"
This might be accurate if you adjust the numbers way down, but 90 IQ (not even 1 standard deviation below average) is not going to perform nearly as poorly as they are describing. Maybe when you get to the sub-80 range. But 90 is basically average.
Relevant only for first-world militaries that need some cognitive ability for their troops to read clocks, follow orders, operate equipment.
To wire up an absolute dummy with a suicide vest and send them at your enemies, inbreeding AND low IQ is probably a more valuable asset than people smart enough to refuse requests like that.
I'm sure they will get dumbed down at some point, but they haven't been yet as far as I know. They do adjust the score for age, they'll probably try to adjust the score for race, so 85 for a black person is 100 and 115 for a white person is 100.
I'm calling bullshit on this anon. Mainly because of the line: "Math is another area I could get into[...] since it's a principal IQ measurement"
That's not true. Math is not used to measure general intelligence because it's too reliant on that person being taught a specific mathematical concept. General intelligence is almost exclusively measured through pattern recognition. Actual IQ tests consist entirely of patterns of images where one image is left blank and you have to figure out what it should include based on other images in the set. This way, it isn't biased by education, culture, or even literacy.
My IQ is above average. However, I am terrible at math. It seems to be inherited. My mom is a whiz at doing crossword puzzles for the NYT, but struggled in math in school.
This is a big red pill for almost everyone. And almost everyone will get upset at the idea that people don't have the same level of intelligence. They want to think that humans aren't that different.
We're not. The difference between someone with a low IQ and a high one is miniscule compared to other species. But someone with an 85 IQ and someone with a 115 IQ may as well be different species. And that's only 30 points. That's inside the first sigma.
I don't believe this. I'v heard this sort of thing my entire life. I do believe people this dumb exist but I don't believe it in the percentages this anon proposes. Stupidity doesn't make a person psychopathically violent. Low IQs don't make anyone a convict. This test was done on prisoners and it seems to be study that found what it set out to find by cherry picking test subjects. I think some people would like to believe morality is based on IQ because it supports some sort of narrative they want to believe. I think the fixation on IQ is as ridiculous as lefties that think "education" solves societal problems so they keep supporting programs that try to educate, re-educate, train and retrain people. The number one reason why I don't believe this is that a lot of these supposedly walking retards that can't think, have no problem scoring drugs, selling drugs, and are able to do all sorts of planning when it comes to getting something they want. The examples used could easily have been test subjects messin' with the test givers. Alfred Kinsey also used prisoners as test subjects and ended up formulating a theory of child sexuality built upon a bunch of pedophiles who told him children as young as four years old were trying to seduce them. Prisoners make bad test subjects.
You make very good points. I think the question about how the convict thought the victim felt is a horrible question. “I don’t know” can be a default response for “I don’t want/care to know” which is a big difference.
I do think that someone with really low IQ might have a propensity for theft if they don’t understand money for example. But I agree that morality is altogether a different metric.
Prisoners know the legal system. They are never going to answer a question in a straight forward way that asks them to sympathize or emphasize with their victims. They will dehumanize and marginalize their victims because that's what bad people who commit crimes against other people do. That's at the heart of why they commit crimes against others. They do not care about their victims so they are never going to "feel their pain". It's stupid to ask perpetrators to care about their victims. It's obvious that they don't.
My guess is that if someone did the same study but asked a group of people who just left a Christian service or a Catholic Mass, the answers would be 180 degrees in the opposite direction, even if the person being asked was an actual psychopath or sociopath. The BTK serial killer was an employee and participant at a protestant church for over ten years. He engaged with every aspect of his Church's community and worship. He was also married and had children. He wasn't a dummy, yet, he thinks the women he tortured and murdered deserved their fate obviously, because he raped and tortured them. However, he never touched a single member of his Church or any relative. He was sweet as pie and generous to them. That's why it was difficult to catch him. Evil people can do evil things to other people because they don't give a flying duck about them and treat them like garbage because they think they're garbage. This is why most serial killers go after loose women, prostitutes, strippers etc because they think those types of women are garbage.
Translation for autistic people.
You're too retarded to think right.
You can't connect to people because your brain doesn't work like a people's brain.
Incredibly interesting. Also reminds me of the study that a good portion of people don't have an internal dialogue.
That was always something that bothered me.
I'm actually quite bothered by a good bit of this stuff. It has always preoccupied my thoughts since I was very young. I'm constantly wondering just how dumb I am by observing the world around me and trying to decide if it's me that is the problem with why things don't make sense/don't work the way they should, or if it's the other people around me.
Like, it gets to the point of being a curse, so badly that I have read a lot of literature trying to understand it. That's when I started to uncover things like people not having an internal dialog.
That was just kind of disturbing. I can't imagine what it must be like to just.... live and breathe, as a human being, and not have an internal dialog. You must be more akin to some base form of life like a mollusk to live like that. It makes me really uncomfortable thinking about it. I always assumed that certain animals were that way, but once I learned that there are people like that, the implications just made me really uneasy.
I think that is the origins of the NPC.
TIL. I've never heard of people who don't have an inner dialog, but it sure explains a lot of what I've seen
It's roughly one in four people. Also about 10% of the populace are too low IQ to manage being a marine. And they have an absolutely low bar (I think it's 86 IQ).
That's the military, in general.
I've asked a few about that and now some of them think I am hearing ghosts. Seems there are a lot that don't have it.
I don't have one you guys are cursed
Are you serious or joking?
Because if so, you are unusual, as far as I am concerned. I don't think I know anyone with no internal monologue.
I even think in my dreams and remember my thoughts.
For example, last night I dreamed one of my tutors was telling me there would be a party next Monday.
And in my dream, I wondered if my tutor would be the only person I knew at the party.
I didn't say it out loud; I thought it, in words, inside my mind. While in a dream.
"I think, therefore I am"
This is the burden that NPCs literally can't comprehend.
I believe part of the reason is damage to the pineal gland / heavy metals supressing brain activity... because I think I was one of those people 5-6 years ago before doing various shit to get my health right.... although I always had internal thoughts, I think there was some aspect of not being able to match patterns I didnt have before.
Interesting theory, one I've also had that various elements in our environment can effect how we think.
Out of curiosity, what are some of the things you did to effect your cognitive health?
Part of it was I was an alcoholic (almost 7 years sober) although I did have periods where I went hard on exercise during and after, I felt off... so much so that i felt for almost 3 years sober that I was in a fog (known as Post-Accute Withdrawl Syndrome)... about a week after doing a regimine of iodine drops I felt as if the fog lifted.
Then the next break through was with joint pain and inflamation and pain by removing wheat and bread, although that wasn't perfect and still have flair-ups when consumong too much of a trigger food, removing that made an immediate difference.
Then when I went low carb, I stopped feeling depressed, stopped having mood swings and competly stopped craving alcohol almost daily. Then when I tried a lithium supplment (which is a way way lower dose than they give to bipolar patients) my tendency to not being able to sit still went away instantly. High levels of vitamin D seems to have been big, Eliminating caffiene was the biggest single thing to eliminate anexiety..
The only downside from where I am now to say 4 years ago when this all began in earnest is I don't have the same edge that nicotine gave me, and I realize that I have to remain mostly low carb because too many for too long leads me to start to have the mood symtoms.
The thing about all of it was, I didn't even realize that I was sick until doing these things. 10 years ago I was at my strongest but I felt absolutly miserable in every way and it was demoralizing pushing myself hard and feeling that way. Also even though I could go hard for 2-3 hours on a bike I could not run at all without being in severe pain... now I can run 5+ miles 3-5x a week no problem.
Edit. Sorry for this being so long but THIS feels like my lifes' work, to get to "normal", because all I knew was health problems
That's crazy, I recently found the iodine stuff too. Apparently we have almost none of it in our diets, and it's a required mineral for so many things in our health. I bought some and tried it for a few days and I felt like I could notice a difference. I need to start using it again on the regular. The guy who got me into it uses it daily and he swears it was a game changer for him.
As for regular diet, I also have noticed there are tons of things that make me feel horrible. Alcohol being one of the worst ones. When I was a young man, I could go on a bender and then get up early the next morning and go to work. Not anymore. I have to plan if I'm going to drink anything, which means it's really and truly just not worth the effort. I like a lot of different alcoholic drinks - gin and tonic, lots of whiskey, cider and craft beer - I just can't drink them without feeling like shit.
So these days I tend to just avoid them entirely. Every once in awhile I'll get in the mood and will have something, but I almost always pay for it.
I've wanted to investigate a low carb/high fat and protein diet. I've seen some stuff about eating mostly meats and other proteins, like eggs and fish. More or less a keto style diet, but not quite as strict. Instead of focusing on staying in keto, you just focus on staying away from bad foods that cause inflammation. I've tried it a few times, and it seems to be alright, I just haven't stuck with them long term for various reasons/excuses.
I've also found that there are a handful of supplements that help with brainfog/cognition. I'm sure it's different for each person and you have to find a combination that supports what you're diet is missing.
I'm doing the iodine as well, what dosage is your running at a dropper full a week?
I go a dropper full every Sunday, and a dropper full when I feel the edge of a cold/flu/headache/stomachache coming on.
I started out pretty low, and then learned rhat it's pretty safe overall. So I usually just add roughly a good squeeze to my food, which averages out to being about 1/4 or so of a dropper.
I'll usually do that with one meal a day, sometimes skipping.
I don't get super precise with it, I just slap some on there.
You could just buy iodized salt and put it in food.
I switched to a low carb diet for health reasons a couple years ago. I have more energy and feel way better in general. I used to wake up sore every day and that’s gone. I can also skip a meal now and it doesn’t bother me.
keto and FASTING are superpowers. There's a reason fasting is a special core component to most religions.
I like guarana tablets instead of caffeine, but make sure it's a brand like Kal with low caffeine (it has a bit naturally and you can break into smaller pieces). It lasts around 6 hours and has different chems. Or try tyrosine on an empty stomach. You mentioned nicotine so I'll say that the patches work and some brands can be cut into pieces to save money (Habitrol) add med tape to cut side.
Congrats on the almost 7, 25 months here. I don't think I have the fog anymore, but maybe I don't know any differently. What was the iodine regimen? I'm curious.
I would recomend finding the book or pdf "iodine - why you need it, why you cant live without it" for a full understanding but his procol is a pyramid where one starts at 3-5mg/daily of lugols iodine and it works up all the way to 50mg then goes down to a 5-10mg mainence dose. There are a few things that help to take with it like selenium, sea salt and vitamin C (but you cannot take C and Iodine at the same time as C nutralizes it)
The book explains why but if you are really 'sick' then you will end up having a "herxheimer reaction" because the body will be eliminating floride and bromide which can displace iodine since it competes for the same receptors in glandular tissue.
Removing lead from gasoline in the 70’s-80’s and the downward trend in overall violence in the US is an amazing example of metal toxins in the environment.
One of the only things the US.gov got right.
I worry about our water supply. There are heavy metals that don't really, uhh, "go away" very easily.
They're instead absorbed into multiple ecological layers and become part of the food chain. It's a similar issue with microplastics. They just keep getting passed around.
For example, I love fly fishing. I really love grilling up some wild caught fish, especially when they're natives and weren't stocked. But I'm always hesitant on eating them in certain watersheds, because of the contamination we now have.
I feel a lot better going to the arctic and catching salmon, than I do eating catfish out of the Mississippi for example.
So you have difficulty understanding other people's thought process. The 4th panel talks about that.
There has to be a thought process in the first place to imagine it.
I can imagine what all those sre like
Well, you can simulate not having an internal dialogue with meditation. I went through a period of heavy meditation-type training some years back and after some time of this I found that I was in a general state of living in the moment, with no internal dialogue.
If it isn't one of the books you've already read, I'd recommend reading Curse of the High IQ by Aaron Clarey. It's a deep dive into the pros, cons, and the behavioral patterns of those with very high IQs, along with things that can be done to mitigate some of the negative behaviors and tendencies (self-medicating, higher instances of drug/alcohol abuse, and dealing with normies).
Every time IQ gets mentioned, all the retards come out with "hurr durr no internal monologue" (Yes, monologue. "Dialogue" would imply there are 2 people in your head)
I have no internal monologue. Feel free to ask me questions.
I never knew this was a thing until now. What do you think about when you’re not busy with something?
Different pede, but I happen to fall somewhere on the edge, there are some things I contemplate with an IM, but much of what I do for work, for example, is reasoned out spacially or I almost have a visualization of a decision tree in my mind.
Personally, I find when I’m using my IM, it’s new territory for me, or I’m modeling a conversation with another person. It also feels really slow. Slower than conversational speed. When I’m in a more comfortable space (like spacial reasoning, logical reasoning, or sequential reasoning) I can hold multiple permutations and outcomes in my mind easily, visualize them in my minds eye, and it feels lightening fast. Almost as if it just pops into my mind out of the ether.
This is probably why I was attracted to my profession, which is extremely heavy on spacial reasoning.
All that said, I have met a number of other people without an internal dialogue in my profession. Let’s just say that I don’t think an IM is correlated to IQ. I score in the mid 140s, a close friend is definitely 10-15 points higher than me with no IM at all. Then we both have co-workers who we assume must be 90-100 IQ yet have the spacial acuity to do what we do. They have No IM based on lunchroom talk.
I think IQ is more a measure of raw general computing power, but a lower IQ mind that is hyper-specialized at one task will destroy a 200 IQ person at that specific task.
I wanna try something. Read this, tell me if it worked on you. My brain doesn't fall for it.
I’ve seen that kind of stuff before. I can hear it in his voice, but it’s very much voluntary. What I default to seems to depend on my mood or stress level.
Nothing in particular, but then pretty quickly my mind will pick up on something, that thought leads to another, and so on.
I don't really have extended periods of not thinking about anything.
When you read something what happens? Like if I am casually reading something for enjoyment I have a "mental echo" when reading it. I can fast skim stuff and not have that but I don't remember it as well.
Also when performing an action how do you model how you predict that action will go? Or do you?
I thought I didn't have one but now I realized I do and just thought that was called "thinking"
Lol yeah it's odd how all these new terms get thrown out. It's just mentally thinking within your own mind. Like trying to think what you should write on a paper.
Some people cannot do that mental thinking to themselves and just blindly write.
That's a good way to describe it.
I visualize it. E.g. if I'm waiting for a doctor's appointment, I'll imagine myself sitting in the doctor's office answering questions, and my brain will run through different scenarios how it could go.
Hope that answers your question.
That is the internal monologue. You have it as well. Some people cannot do that.
Sure
Reading this I still have a hard time believing it. There are entire nations where the average IQ is 85 or lower. So half would be dumber than that, yet most people can read.
The higher IQs left to become doctors and scientists! Then the rest stayed and struggled on without them, and to this day their kids cross that river on the way to “school” using a rope and some hope!
Stefan Molynuex's old videos on IQ were incredible. Before he got terminated, that is.
They are still there. Just not on YouTube.
imagine if you will entire countries that are less developed than others because they can't envision a factory or an economy.
I know people have trouble with hypotheticals, but it's hard to believe the IQ level at which they become difficult is only 90. I would have guessed 65 or 70. Being smart is a fucking curse.
Just looked up the curve/deviation and sub-90 is 25% of the population, so this makes sense.
Heh.
It’s hard for you make that hypothetical, huh?
If I could not have understood it, I would have been a happier person
i still doubt your intelligence
Always good practice. I read the post and didn’t understand why the need for the gay overtones.
If you look at the world we live in, it's not a lack of intelligence that correlates to a lack of empathy, damn near everyone in power lacks empathy in our world today.
All this illustrates is that the dumb mother fuckers are the ones that take from society in ways that get them caught.
Lady to governor of WA
meaning they told us it was safe and effective
https://patriots.win/p/16ZqwLZU5B/x/c/4TpzVYPbt82
Governor has already started talking before she finished
One thing that always bothered me was how often the court system will try to remove agency from someone. Like with Muslim rapists in Europe, they will argue, that they didn't know right from wrong, I mean right from wrong is such a basic concept, a child taking a cookie from the cookie jar after they were told not to, can explicitly understand when they get yelled at that they fucked up. Hell even dogs understand this and I don't think most dogs are operating anywhere near room temperature iq.
First of all, my room is currently 53 degrees because the heat failed. My dog scored at least a 57 on his last IQ test at the Vet.
That's anarco tyranny.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1197709405376135168
I have a high IQ so did not read
Mine's higher than yours.
Isn't the internet fun?
A smart man would not reply but I am also a cunt. Akimbo Yahtzee
I have the highest IQ in history.
No, I'm not going to offer proof to verify. This is the internet, you should believe it just because I say so.
This is the internet, anyone can take samples of your writing from your social media history and plug them into an analyzer and get an estimate of your IQ
https://www.writingtoiq.com pegs you at 95IQ based on a sample of your posts to this site
EDIT: Also, I imagine that taking an assorted sample of disconnected posts that don't actually go together and including them all in one sample is probably going result in a lower IQ rating than a single sample that is all meant to be part of a single coherent piece of writing.
EDIT 2: Furthering my point, I ran your own posts through your link. It swung back and forth as I put your full page worth of posts in, but at one point your combined posts brought you down to an IQ rating of 84.
Dear lawd you're savage lol
You have correctly identified me as too stupid to have read and comprehended your retort, what about that?
That is impossible because I have been told I am the smartest person in existence by 4chan!
You get it
Come on man, everyone knows 'screen shots, or it didn't happen'.
I’ll play. Tell me yours and we’ll see who has a higher one.
Here's a clue. It can only be measured on the Titan or Power class of tests
I had to look those up and might take them. I was told the test I took wasn’t accurate at my level. It’s been awhile.
Try this site
http://www.mental-testing.com/
Thanks.
I can't remember my email or password from years ago when I was on that site. I used to be interested in high end puzzles, and the highest end were always these discriminate IQ tests. It's not perfect, nothing is.
Nowadays the only puzzles I do are on chess.com where my "puzzle" skill is international master. Over the board, I'm not even a master anymore, don't have enough patience…
This hits home a lot for me. I can't tell you how many times i've argued with liberals who always say "if we only give them more money, more help.. they'll climb out of poverty and squalor". You cannot give stupid people money and expect them to start living better. Poverty is a lifestyle.. not an outcome. The intelligent may find themselves poor due to bad circumstances/luck, but they can always figure a way out of it. The stupid wind up there despite all the help. Its why so many lottery winners wind up broke after a few years. its why so many professional athletes wind up broke after their careers are over.
I have a high IQ (around 130).
But let's get real here.
Who are the bigger retards?
The retards who act like retards?
Or the people who let those retards have a substantial say in our society?
you can be intelligent and still make stupid decisions.
My first big red pill was racial IQ averages.
Holy shit that explains a lot of pattern recognition in news stories and why most people don't see it.
wow this explains a lot.
The other day I was trying to explain a three-dimensional array to someone and how I was using it to keep track of machine states and got absolutely no where with him.
Finally had to just say "Well it's fucking magic. Just accept it"
This might be accurate if you adjust the numbers way down, but 90 IQ (not even 1 standard deviation below average) is not going to perform nearly as poorly as they are describing. Maybe when you get to the sub-80 range. But 90 is basically average.
Jordan Peterson says the military found an IQ of less than 82 (bottom 10-15%?) could not productively do any military job.
I looked up a chart, 82 is in the bottom 11.5%.
Relevant only for first-world militaries that need some cognitive ability for their troops to read clocks, follow orders, operate equipment.
To wire up an absolute dummy with a suicide vest and send them at your enemies, inbreeding AND low IQ is probably a more valuable asset than people smart enough to refuse requests like that.
Modern problems require Mohamed solutions.
Not up to date on the alignment of iq test scores across America. Did they make them equitable like SAT score and have people handicaps.
The big take away has been an awful reminder of how things became this way after MSM and social media promoted the lowest comon denominator.
I'm sure they will get dumbed down at some point, but they haven't been yet as far as I know. They do adjust the score for age, they'll probably try to adjust the score for race, so 85 for a black person is 100 and 115 for a white person is 100.
I'm calling bullshit on this anon. Mainly because of the line: "Math is another area I could get into[...] since it's a principal IQ measurement"
That's not true. Math is not used to measure general intelligence because it's too reliant on that person being taught a specific mathematical concept. General intelligence is almost exclusively measured through pattern recognition. Actual IQ tests consist entirely of patterns of images where one image is left blank and you have to figure out what it should include based on other images in the set. This way, it isn't biased by education, culture, or even literacy.
My IQ is above average. However, I am terrible at math. It seems to be inherited. My mom is a whiz at doing crossword puzzles for the NYT, but struggled in math in school.
This is a big red pill for almost everyone. And almost everyone will get upset at the idea that people don't have the same level of intelligence. They want to think that humans aren't that different.
We're not. The difference between someone with a low IQ and a high one is miniscule compared to other species. But someone with an 85 IQ and someone with a 115 IQ may as well be different species. And that's only 30 points. That's inside the first sigma.
But I did eat breakfast
I don't believe this. I'v heard this sort of thing my entire life. I do believe people this dumb exist but I don't believe it in the percentages this anon proposes. Stupidity doesn't make a person psychopathically violent. Low IQs don't make anyone a convict. This test was done on prisoners and it seems to be study that found what it set out to find by cherry picking test subjects. I think some people would like to believe morality is based on IQ because it supports some sort of narrative they want to believe. I think the fixation on IQ is as ridiculous as lefties that think "education" solves societal problems so they keep supporting programs that try to educate, re-educate, train and retrain people. The number one reason why I don't believe this is that a lot of these supposedly walking retards that can't think, have no problem scoring drugs, selling drugs, and are able to do all sorts of planning when it comes to getting something they want. The examples used could easily have been test subjects messin' with the test givers. Alfred Kinsey also used prisoners as test subjects and ended up formulating a theory of child sexuality built upon a bunch of pedophiles who told him children as young as four years old were trying to seduce them. Prisoners make bad test subjects.
You make very good points. I think the question about how the convict thought the victim felt is a horrible question. “I don’t know” can be a default response for “I don’t want/care to know” which is a big difference.
I do think that someone with really low IQ might have a propensity for theft if they don’t understand money for example. But I agree that morality is altogether a different metric.
Prisoners know the legal system. They are never going to answer a question in a straight forward way that asks them to sympathize or emphasize with their victims. They will dehumanize and marginalize their victims because that's what bad people who commit crimes against other people do. That's at the heart of why they commit crimes against others. They do not care about their victims so they are never going to "feel their pain". It's stupid to ask perpetrators to care about their victims. It's obvious that they don't.
My guess is that if someone did the same study but asked a group of people who just left a Christian service or a Catholic Mass, the answers would be 180 degrees in the opposite direction, even if the person being asked was an actual psychopath or sociopath. The BTK serial killer was an employee and participant at a protestant church for over ten years. He engaged with every aspect of his Church's community and worship. He was also married and had children. He wasn't a dummy, yet, he thinks the women he tortured and murdered deserved their fate obviously, because he raped and tortured them. However, he never touched a single member of his Church or any relative. He was sweet as pie and generous to them. That's why it was difficult to catch him. Evil people can do evil things to other people because they don't give a flying duck about them and treat them like garbage because they think they're garbage. This is why most serial killers go after loose women, prostitutes, strippers etc because they think those types of women are garbage.
Translation for autistic people. You're too retarded to think right. You can't connect to people because your brain doesn't work like a people's brain.
Enjoyed the read.