I enjoy the fact the Daily Wire took the "this isn't a contract, it's a term sheet" defense, like they're Darrel Brooks, "I wasn't driving the vehicle, I was a passenger."
They sure did deploy Candice, to go after Crowder, but luckily, Crowder will be on Timcast this Monday. Maybe it's all a coincidence and they were booked weeks in advance. Maybe Tim had to bump a guest rather than have 2 on at once, like he's done with double bookings. Timcast is an excellent podcast to let these millionaires duke it out.
Whether you're on DW's side or Crowder's, you certainly get to see the employees of the DW come after Crowder. In fact, you even get to see Chenk Uger come after Crowder. Chenk + Ben, aligning together.
Even if she doesn't cernovich sure as hell does and they deployed him extremely quickly to jump straight on Crowder
cernovich came off sounding like a complete fucking idiot who was horribly biased too, because he only talked about the money they offered Steven and ignored all of the other shit and the fact that it called for him to pay for 100% of his own production costs out of that money.....
He said they actually scheduled to have Candace on the show that night about 2 months ago so that part was by accident. I think he scheduled Crowder for Monday bc of the recent situation.
A lot of the people Pool has on are fairly minor in the scheme of things so they'll probably take a rebooking and still be happy. And likely they understand too.
She started out as a pundit on YouTube called “Redpill Black” at first, and gained quite a following before coming out as Candace.
If you want to watch something fun, go back and find the old Rubin Report with Candace and Blaire White duking it out (metaphorically), and poor Dave is trying to moderate the catfight. By the end the poor dude looks like he’s been through the wringer, lol.
I'm not on either side per se, but just looking at the facts on the ground as they stand, Crowder looks fairly legit so far, while DW looks increasingly shady.
If this was really a disagreement between peers, it would've been resolved a long time ago and we never would've found out about it; that DW is trying to cover their asses, poison the well about Crowder, and are acting super defensive in an increasingly shady fashion only go to prove Crowder's position that DW and others are acting as controlled opposition.
It'd be the easiest thing in the world for DW to make a video saying that they're not sure what the issue is, but that they'd like to speak to Crowder and resolve it; they so far seem to be taking the opposite tack, and that doesn't bolster my opinion of them.
When conservatives were banned/shadowbanned on facebook, Zuckerg/Sandberg elevated Ben Shapiro’s reach to be the most popular conservative voice on the platform.
Ben Shapiro was “selected” by the Rothschilds to replace the discredited RINOs.
The central bankers have run this world for a LONG time. They are very good at exchanging discredited puppets for newer puppets.
Yeah, the issue ultimately boils down as to whether or not DW is controlled opposition, or just a right-leaning firm that has to operate in what it sees as a leftist domain they have to do business in. I've always gotten the sense that some members of the DW staff, especially Shapiro, existed in this uncanny valley of conservatism where I just couldn't entirely accept it; especially in regards to how Shapiro has always had low-to-moderate levels of TDS regarding Trump.
Re: “controlled” opposition: Those who love money, status and power more than they love righteousness are “controllable” by those who print the money out of thin air.
In my opinion, they ousted themselves as quickly as they did because they knew, even without being named, that their contract would be immediately recognizable going foreward and this was a massive danger to their ability to rope new or naive "talent" into their censorious business model. Crowder hit them where it hurt and they immediately went for the neck.
We'll probably never know for sure, but so far from what I've seen (and this situation is currently evolving) Crowder's position seems reasonable, compassionate, and not accusatory so much as it is an attempt to shift the way he sees DW doing business so that they can correct the behavior in-house. DW, on the other hand, is behaving like a party that's been caught with its hand in the cookie jar and won't fess up to it, because their behavior makes it pretty obvious; otherwise why would Candace Owens imply things about Crowder's intentions she can't possibly know and try to malign him?
Unpopular opinion: Crowder is completely in the wrong.
The offer was a starting point, there’s no use in getting bent out of shape about it. DW has repeatedly spoken out against censorship and big tech. They have also been transparent about the contract and caught Crowder in some lies.
Crowder recorded that conversation for his own benefit. He’s going to start his own company. He registered thebigcon in advance of his supposedly innocent conversation with Jeremy.
I used to be in mug club, no longer. This is not how to win. This is just grifting.
I get what you're saying, and everyone's free to have their own opinion as things unfold, but I think you're demonstrating a potentially crippling bias by picking a favorite and not keeping a bird's eye view.
Me personally, I like Crowder and DW, in fact I'm subbed to both on YT and watch their content on a semi-regular basis; that having been said, I'm able to take a step back and objectively evaluate how both sides have been behaving, and in that regard DW's behavior HEAVILY suggests guilt.
Just think of how an innocent person behaves in response to an allegation, vs. how someone behaves when they're guilty: DW so far is far more to the guilty side of the spectrum, and everything I've seen so far doesn't dissuade me from that perspective.
Crowder, from the start, has stated that this isn't intended to be an accusation, so much as it is prompting an at-the-time anonymous party to correct what he saw as biased and coercive behavior regarding content creators, such as himself. It was almost like an intervention, which while somewhat confrontational and unkind, is meant for the other party's best interests so that they admit having a problem and correct themselves. DW so far is behaving like an addict that would rather push their entire family away than admit they're addicted and seek help.
Now, insofar as whether the contracts that DW signs with its content creators and partners is coercive, exploitative, or censorious is concerned, the jury's still out with me, because I largely don't know contract law or how such contracts are typically handled, but just the behavioral aspects of this suggest that Crowder MAY have a point.
So far, Tim Pool's been in the middle of it covering the situation, and so far his perspective seems pretty moderate; I'd suggest you watch his recent content for a more objective view of the situation.
Let's say you know you are worth $90K/yr salary. You go to your friend, who you've known for ten years, and tell him you'd love to work for him. Friend goes yeah, I'd love to have you...here's an offer.
It's for $50K/yr. And to top it off, you are an independant contractor so no 401K, health or benefits. What do you do in that situation? You know you're worth 90K, but by giving such an insultingly low offer, your only to choices are:
Counter with $130K, which if you do the back and forth compromise dance, ends up between 85-95K. (If you read between the lines, this is exactly what Crowder did with his "outrageous" counter-offer that Candace bitches about.) But if this is your friend, and he knows what he'd be willing to pay you, why not a "starting point" of 80K? Why insult you from the very start of the negotiations?
Walk away. Rather than go back and forth--which will do doubt forced to choose at every step between principles and money--realize you made a mistake about working for this person and walk away from the negotiation.
This exactly! I think a lot of the people who are on DWs are either some kind of faggot or have never worked a job where you have to carefully read employment contracts. I have, and some companies have tried to screw me in exactly the way you described. And like Crowder, I got fucking PISSED.
You are absolutely correct and I wish hairlip retards on this site could use some critical thinking. I am saying this as someone who fucking hates Ben, but appreciates what the rest of them has done for the culture. Crowder showed his ass as a petulant child that is not loyal to friends.
He's petulant for warning people to protect their content? Did you listen to his original video? He didn't even name DW because he didn't intend to go after them specifically. They aren't the only ones scamming creators. Those type of contracts are preditory.
He knew full well people would put two and two together, you don’t turn on “friends” and record them without I’ll intent. If you want to grow your own content your way, then don’t contract with a multimillion dollar company to back you, with their resources. If you don’t like the contract you don’t put on blast the people that you call your friends. Crowder did this to put his name out there no fucking doubt. He was becoming irrelevant and a failure so he saw a way to get his stupid name out there where a bunch of equally petulant children would back him.
Of course he did it with intent but it sounds like he made the decision to after they had some back and forth ending with him walking away. So his "friend" kinda turned on him first. I think he's way more relevant than DW tbh. I follow Candice Owens but Ben Shapiro is pretty annoying. He pushed the jab.
8 of your only 25 comments in the last 28 days have been in the last 24 hours, about Crowder. You take weeks off at a time because you arent one of us, youre a plant and a fraud with a whole stack of accounts - a disingenuous lying BITCH shuffling between throwaway accounts like the dickhead you are, only an idiot would take you seriously.
Folks, just click the link and look at the history. Guy barely posts once or twice a week but suddenly has all the time in the world to post here just as Leftist and RINOs and the establishment are all going after Crowder. Funny how that works.
I watched his show. He didn't look like he was going to cry, but he didn't look as chipper, smug, and defiant as usual. Shapiro said they were all friends, and how Shapiro had been Crowder's attorney years ago.
They have been friends. For a very long time. I'm sure that the Daily Wire genuinely believes they've done nothing wrong, despite my dislike for most of them at this point.
What a lot of people like you don't understand is that those guys aren't for you..... yeah they need regular subscribers to keep the lights on, but the real reason they are there is to attract newer people.... so it stands to reason that if they are mild enough to wake up and attract new people, then once you get extremely redpilled they are probably going to slowly become unbearable for you personally.....
There are levels to this shit.... Just like you definitely don't spend your very first day waking up and being redpilled by binging Bannon and Alex Jones..... Ideally you would graduate to those guys after a milder introduction.....
Them entertaining you is not at all why they are important in this movement... Which is exactly what Crowder is trying to explain that it is supposed to be about the future of our country and movement first and foremost and then money secondly......
The funny thing about that is “the great reset” is what redpilled Russell.
Since the WEF had a portion of their website dedicated to “you will own nothing, and be happy,” he couldn’t just rationalize it or dismiss it. It was right there in black and white.
Lefties can still be woken up, it just has to be the right situation at the right time, and under those same circumstances.
Now the dude’s a goddam machine. He’s pulling in the holistic/meditative types too, which are a hard group to reach. Just look at Sam Harris for instance. Dude meditates a ton but never actually thinks.
Which is exactly what Crowder is trying to explain that it is supposed to be about the future of our country and movement first and foremost and then money secondly......
So should the daily wire just be giving every Tom, Dick and Harry newcomer millions of dollars before they even prove themselves without even negotiating terms to benefit the company that is investing a ton of money and resources into them? Yeah sure, that’s going to last long.
I love how many people on this site are genius ceos of large media companies, yet we are still in the position we are in with messaging.
Yeah, but it's like watching a bum fight... you won't gain or lose anything, but one of those two will stand to lose a fuckload more than they can afford.
I don't follow any of these folks, but it seems like the grassroots is siding with Crowder.
I have several friends who listen to both. They follow Shapiro like he's a serious person who knows what he's talking about, and they follow Crowder for the lulz. So, if this de-legitimizes Shapiro in the eyes of his fanbase, then I guess go Crowder.
What crowder just was kind of pussy shit though. He got an offer in October, presented a counter, both sides negotiated for a few weeks and both sides agreed to walk away in November. In December, Crowder registers "StopBigCon.com" and calls the DW CEO and secretly records the call. In January, he drops his new ad campaign, and plays his secret tapes.
Where did you get that info? Probably from someone blast hot retard on the Dailywire as a defense.
No one fucking cares. We only care that another neo con soy boy psyop get hit in the dick and loses a fuck ton of money from siding with Big Tech to silence people.
How he went about it, I personally don't give a fuck. He showed those limp wristed fag boys to the world for the scum they are. No one complins about Veritas recording people to expose them, but Crowder records neocon Inc hard at work and he's an asshole. Lol.
You bring up some good points, but at the same time he’s a “breaking news” type of guy. He had, in writing, the reason outlets like DW were so widely shared on places like Facebook is because they’re requiring their people to play ball with Big Tech or be penalized.
To put this in context you gotta realize that DW is the most-widely shared news outlet on Facebook. Even more than the leftie ones. It’s not even close. No shit.
Steven claims it’s because of a deal they cut with Facebook, that gets stipulated in their employee contract terms, and reins them in with draconian fines for stepping out of line (something Steven revels in).
Basically DW is claiming they want to take on big tech, but at the same time speaking out the other side of their mouth and telling their employees to conform to the narrative, or else.
Everything you described could be the lead-up to the exposé they decided to do on this once negotiations fell through. This is actually a pretty big story.
You're even worse than that cocksucker Piston, you only post on this account once or twice a month? Multiple weeks off and then you come back to shill for RINOs and insult Crowder?
You aint legit, yous a punk ass bitch. Why don't you post with your real primary account and stop being a cocksucker with the disposable account garbage?
If Shapiro is controlled opposition then so is Crowder. Crowder is banned from all the same platforms as Shapiro. He's banned from all the same banks and payment processors as Shapiro. Crowder worked for Glenn Beck at The Blaze which is much worse than the Daily Wire. Crowder is branding the Daily Wire as "big con" but Crowder is just as much "big con" as they are.
If what Crowder said is true he cares about the conservative movement. The daily wire only cares about how much money they can make off the conservative movement. Daily wire are the rhinos of online conservative media.
We don't need either for the movement. I don't watch Crowder and Shapiro is intolerable. Pay Salty 50 million. I bet Salty is taking notes on this. The fact Crowder is on Timcast proves it. Duel to the death with Star Trek music like on the cable guy.
You're wrong about not needing them. I didn't know who the fuck Salty was until coming here. I started my red pill journey on Joe Rogan, Crowder, Shapiro, and a bit of Tim Pool. I'm sure there's several others like me, so saying the movement doesn't need them is a stretch.
Red Pilled from Joe Rogan? Please spare me. Crowder started off fine. Their info is selective and watered down. They don't benefit MAGA maybe leftards. Shit bag Shapiro and Tim Tool can go suck each other off a water fall.
Joe Rogan fell off years ago and his podcast is irrelevant to me re: politics. Dude is a Bernie bro... Not to mention he's bought and paid for. That's a micro dose of a red pill from all of them. Shapiro's little weasel voice and face annoy me. Their info is the trickle down from the waterfall upstream. They're lapping up the gutter water.
You can hate Rogan all you want, and you're right he's 100 percent a tds Bernie lover, but he also continues to make people question the mainstream agenda, so it doesn't really matter if you like him or not. I hope more people watch him, and like the other user mentioned, I hope more people look into the older podcasts because that's what got me into a lot of those guys. I mean shit, he even got me into some of my favorite comedians like Bobby Lee, Tom segura, and Joey Diaz! But who gives a fuck, it doesn't matter! All the matters is that he continues to bring some people who are tired of the mainstream bullshit and want to see if there's a way to actually fucking save this country.
Enjoy all the downvotes being shoved up your whiny asshole, bud. There's a reason so many people disagree with you despite how arrogant and dismissive you are. Maybe try assessing your surroundings every once in a while.
Nobody gives a shit about your personal feelings and expectations for comment creators, yet you're speaking authoritatively, like your opinion matters. It doesn't. You have no standing or influence here.
Oh did I hurt your feelings? Not a down vote! Oh no! Whatever will I do! Fuck Joe Rogan, Fuck Steven Crowder, Fuck Tim Pool, Fuck Ben Shapiro. I found a bigger bitch than all of them.
Crowder helped prove that the election was rigged by driving around Michigan matching voter rolls to the non existent addresses where people supposedly voted from.
Salty Cracker is a cursing Caucasian from Cali, hyperconservative former liberal 40-year-old Millennial, high energy hilarity, dripping with sarcasm and blunt speech: https://saltmustflow.com
You don't know Salty Cracker on Rumble? Shows how Maga you are. Let me repeat... Crowder and Shapiro are useless to the movement. Both of them aren't worth five minutes of my time. Salty is the absolute best.
I like salty but come guy just reacts to story's too and yells like a kid with ADHD on a Suger high. Also the fact he lives in California and you know he can move out of that s*** whole state makes me question him.
I find him to be extremely informative and humorous. He does have ADD. I live in CA too. Los Angeles, CA is where its at . The best beaches and the Sierra Nevada mountains. Can't beat it. Sure is a cesspool in the city and the homelessness is beyond out of control. I do want to leave. You cant spend much time in the city that shits lame anyway. The liberals and liberal policies of our failed Gov. are what ruin this place.
As much as I hate to say, it doesn’t matter if people on here know who he is. The Normies need to know who he is and they know who Crowder is and they know who daily wire people are for the most part.
I don't like Daily Wire, I do like the college campus debates and will occasionally listen to Knowles and Walsh, but I'm MAGA and Daily Wire is not, but will tip my hat that they have been a good counterbalance in the culture war against communism.
I like Crowder's show, but think he's also a bit shifty and an asshole behind the scenes which is why Owen Benjamin, Notgayjared, Svencomputer, etc all aren't there anymore, his crew has been fairly stable of late but I think Quarter Black isn't there anymore as I see him doing a lot of indy stuff now and don't recall seeing him on the show but only watch a time or two a month. I love that he brought Pops Crowder and Dave Landau on, they get the most laughs out of me (my primary reason for watching) and some of my favorite episodes are the ones where he is gone and Landau is hosting doing the Norm MacDonald type shit where he's fucking up the ad reads and show storyboard/plan.
Candace was scheduled before the drama, but since the drama unfolded it ended up being the whole show. Crowder registered his domain stopbigcon.com in December on the 12th already planning for this. The domain is registered in Canada, so fuck that shit too. I think Candace did a decent character attack on Crowder, bringing up some important points about why he shouldn't be the one leading this charge. I think she failed in defending Daily Wire's "contract" and failed herself and Daily Wire by trying to defend things like "it's not a contract", that's a leftist bullshit word substitution, it's terms for... a contract.
I think Crowder was amoral recording and releasing the conversation, I do not think that was the case with the contract as there's no NDA and while it's generally considered appropriate to keep the terms hush hush, contracts will frequently get published. I'm glad they at least brought it up on Timcast that Texas is single party consent.
I look forward to hearing Crowder defend himself on Monday. I think Tim Pool is a bit controlling and an asshole as well, but as he said when you're in business you get stabbed in the back all the time and so it hardens you. As to which side I'm on, while I prefer Crowder's content, I'm on the sideline
Says he doesn't want to get into and that it was his personal choice. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just building conflict and Crowder gave him a decent going away package under NDA to not harm his image, which isn't all uncommon.
Quarter black made a few comments on FNT last night. Nothing too solid from what I saw but he seemed to be somewhat supportive of Crowder without being down on DW too much and mentioned that Crowder called him before it happened to let him know to let him prepare. He seemed mostly like he didn't want to get involved.
Basically same, but I've just not really enjoyed Crowder that much ever, except change my mind. I like some of his crew, especially Dave Landau. Pretty sure quarter black is officially off the staff, and has been for at least a few months (maybe coinciding with the end of his blaze contract?).
If you think DW is not truly conservative fine have your opinion, but dont try to relaunch your failing business on the backs of a decently successful conservative media group. Don't ask people to pick sides. We should all be able to fucking disagree honestly without acting like leftists.
And while Candace is dumb, it was interesting to hear her take on it. I think ppl get too bogged down in the contract/offer semantics, when to me the point is just DW made an offer, Crowder didn't want to negotiate it, and decided to crucify them instead.
Thanks for the clarification. Like I said in my post, I never even used it to watch him. I just subscribed to support someone looking into the election.
I know he did a video about leaving the platform he was on. I did not realize that there were 2 separate controversies.
Well, the good news is conservative new media is fighting for a growing number of followers. I think more and more leftists are dying from the jabs and the ones remaining are starting to shift further to the right every day.
All of these peasants are fighting over the fruit of RUSH LIMBAUGH'S labor. All hail the golden microphone. These clowns aren't fit to trim Rush's cigars.
If I was subscribed to Daily Wire this would have been enough to cancel it.
And TBH it's pretty easy to do charge-backs/disputes and it really fucks up the company defending against it. Easy refund if you paid for something and didn't receive it. Doesn't matter what the TOS or some shit says.
If this was simply a misunderstanding about the intentions behind a contract, then Crowder never would've had to spend months prepping this action, and DW wouldn't have responded by trying to discredit the issue. If this was truly a disagreement between peers, it would've already been resolved reasonably behind the scenes and we never would've learned about it.
That DW has reacted this way, kinda proves Crowder's point, and the fact that mentioning this on DW's videos gets you a hail of not only upvotes but condemning commentary (with a suspicious amount of shadowbanned comments) indicates that they're going into 'cover your ass' mode instead of being introspective and accommodating.
DW is not acting like an honest actor, and the fact that the narrative coming out of DW is that Crowder's actions are a 'betrayal' basically confirms they aren't.
Crowder never said it was a misunderstanding. Dw did. Crowder came into this planning to expose the predators actions, not the predators themselves. Dw outed themselves to try to outrun the bad pr because they knew the contract was jewy shit. Jeremy said it best, wage slaves. Dance monkey.
Yeah, DW has pretty much exposed themselves without saying a word by their actions post-revelation. We all know how someone reacts when they're facing a false accusation, or even an accusation that wasn't aimed at them, vs. a guilty party that has the same events unfold.
While it's not completely definitive that DW is guilty to a court of law level, their behavior heavily suggests guilt. DW is not staffed by stupid or incompetent people, so you'd think that they'd be able to handle this a LOT better than they did, and frankly their behavior since Crowder first got the ball rolling on this has almost been the way the leftist publications behave when they get called out... which only goes to give credit to Crowder.
I think this is business. The deal sucked? Okay don’t take the deal. Crowder never needed DW. He has the subscribers, he could do what Tim Poole did easily. He’d make more money anyway. This idea of hosting others is nonsense. His contracts will look exactly like DWs. 100%.
This should never have been made public IMO. Everyone looks bad here to some degree.
I wish TheQuartering would stfu about this. We know he built Crowder's new website, in a rush, when he was kicked out of the Blaze a few months back. Jeremy even ended up drunk and crying on stream afterwards, then had to apologize for the stress causing him to act unprofessional.
Like, we get it, Jeremy. You don't want other Jeremy getting those sweet Mugbucks you worked so hard for. But I'm worried that if DW was right, and Crowder doesn't sell a bajillion subs, Crowder will turn on him, blame Jeremy for the failure, and I'll lose my favorite coffee monger.
DW absolutely made a shit lowball offer, the guy Crowder recorder admitted as much and they sent their employees after Crowder. I also take issue with their practice of giving shit contracts to upcoming conservative influencers and then helping their channels grow to maximize DW’s profits
As for Crowder, he shouldn’t have released the recording like that and considering the timeline and when he created the website it does look like a grift.
It's interesting to see these conservative powerhouses start creating their own networks. If what's going on is true, and I do lean towards crowders side on this one, then I'm actually excited to see what he has to bring to the table. Personally I'm only interested im What is a Woman and Jordan Peterson on the Daily Wires paid subscription. I like Brett Cooper and all, but... ehh...
Now if crowder could bring interesting creators to the table like the hodge twins and new faces to do things that regular broadcasters are afraid to risk, then it might be amazing. Like if he signed salty to do some fun show, I would watch the fucking SHIT out of it. Now of course I'd want any creator to own their own content, but this is exactly what crowder wants and seems to believe in. The daily wire does not. I would love to support this. And then there would be an actual reason to support the merchandise too because you're supporting the creators directly!
Maybe it's just all a misunderstanding between both parties, but even then I still wouldn't want crowder on the daily wire. I hated the blaze's media player and I'm not a fan of the daily wires. I'd be curious to see how crowder would go about it, but again these are details that we'd have to see to make an informed decision.
This is one of those situations where there are two shitty jalopies careening out of control at 75mph towards each other and make a head on collision.
At first you think, "oh my how awful"
Then you find out it's the perennial 15 yr old twerp with a cracking pubertyvoice being driven to boarding school by smithers the butler (shapiro) in one car, and some ruling class failson coopted by the CIA for being too mediocre to be a spy and too crass to be on television, in the other car. Neither deliver the truth. Neither have ANYTHING new or interesting to say, because they wait until "the current fauxservative alternative thing is flushed out, and then they claim it as if they came up with it"
All they produce is content lameware. Calling them mediocre, in fact, is generous. The ONLY way these people get where they are is being given the boost by the ruling class (as in they are controlled oppo), who are kingmakers--they choose winners and losers. In this case, you may have thought I meant they were the losers and you guys are the winners. While that is true, it's unfortunately the opposite.
In our car scenario, no sophie's choice involved. It's essentially two fentanyl dealers with florida plates crashing into each other.
Some problems solve themselves.
And another thing. Crowder is so stupid he's getting nothing. He's losing millions he almost had. What a fool. If you're going to sell out, go big or go home. Apparently he slept thru summer school at langley. Idiot.
Funny that Crowder predicated this exposé by identifying himself as a Christian. And that’s important because (authentic) conservatism is inextricably linked to Christianity. Ergo, the enemies of Christianity will infiltrate in order to both exploit and undermine. And the archenemy of the Christian is the Jew.
I enjoy the fact the Daily Wire took the "this isn't a contract, it's a term sheet" defense, like they're Darrel Brooks, "I wasn't driving the vehicle, I was a passenger."
They sure did deploy Candice, to go after Crowder, but luckily, Crowder will be on Timcast this Monday. Maybe it's all a coincidence and they were booked weeks in advance. Maybe Tim had to bump a guest rather than have 2 on at once, like he's done with double bookings. Timcast is an excellent podcast to let these millionaires duke it out.
Whether you're on DW's side or Crowder's, you certainly get to see the employees of the DW come after Crowder. In fact, you even get to see Chenk Uger come after Crowder. Chenk + Ben, aligning together.
Where do you get the idea Candace has a law degree??
Even if she doesn't cernovich sure as hell does and they deployed him extremely quickly to jump straight on Crowder
cernovich came off sounding like a complete fucking idiot who was horribly biased too, because he only talked about the money they offered Steven and ignored all of the other shit and the fact that it called for him to pay for 100% of his own production costs out of that money.....
Cerno is and always has been, a beta male. He has the girliest voice to boot
Cernovich oscillates between lawyer and teenage girl at about 50/50 of the time.
That's generous. Seems he lands on teenage girl about 80% of the time.
I find it fascinating, Tim got Candice + Crowder so quickly. I wonder if Tim had to bump someone, or if they were always planned to be on?
He said they actually scheduled to have Candace on the show that night about 2 months ago so that part was by accident. I think he scheduled Crowder for Monday bc of the recent situation.
A lot of the people Pool has on are fairly minor in the scheme of things so they'll probably take a rebooking and still be happy. And likely they understand too.
CernoBitch is a POS, just like Lil' Ben the CuckServative. Both grifters who are Anti-Trumpers.
Crowder is at least funny and is pretty honest, much more so than the above two trash can fires.
W.
It’s Therno-bitch
Looks like I believed leftist propaganda. She dropped out of college, and it was for journalism. My bad.
She started out as a pundit on YouTube called “Redpill Black” at first, and gained quite a following before coming out as Candace.
If you want to watch something fun, go back and find the old Rubin Report with Candace and Blaire White duking it out (metaphorically), and poor Dave is trying to moderate the catfight. By the end the poor dude looks like he’s been through the wringer, lol.
Dropping out of college seems like a good thing nowadays.
I'm not on either side per se, but just looking at the facts on the ground as they stand, Crowder looks fairly legit so far, while DW looks increasingly shady.
If this was really a disagreement between peers, it would've been resolved a long time ago and we never would've found out about it; that DW is trying to cover their asses, poison the well about Crowder, and are acting super defensive in an increasingly shady fashion only go to prove Crowder's position that DW and others are acting as controlled opposition.
It'd be the easiest thing in the world for DW to make a video saying that they're not sure what the issue is, but that they'd like to speak to Crowder and resolve it; they so far seem to be taking the opposite tack, and that doesn't bolster my opinion of them.
When conservatives were banned/shadowbanned on facebook, Zuckerg/Sandberg elevated Ben Shapiro’s reach to be the most popular conservative voice on the platform.
Ben Shapiro was “selected” by the Rothschilds to replace the discredited RINOs.
The central bankers have run this world for a LONG time. They are very good at exchanging discredited puppets for newer puppets.
Yeah, the issue ultimately boils down as to whether or not DW is controlled opposition, or just a right-leaning firm that has to operate in what it sees as a leftist domain they have to do business in. I've always gotten the sense that some members of the DW staff, especially Shapiro, existed in this uncanny valley of conservatism where I just couldn't entirely accept it; especially in regards to how Shapiro has always had low-to-moderate levels of TDS regarding Trump.
Re: “controlled” opposition: Those who love money, status and power more than they love righteousness are “controllable” by those who print the money out of thin air.
In my opinion, they ousted themselves as quickly as they did because they knew, even without being named, that their contract would be immediately recognizable going foreward and this was a massive danger to their ability to rope new or naive "talent" into their censorious business model. Crowder hit them where it hurt and they immediately went for the neck.
We'll probably never know for sure, but so far from what I've seen (and this situation is currently evolving) Crowder's position seems reasonable, compassionate, and not accusatory so much as it is an attempt to shift the way he sees DW doing business so that they can correct the behavior in-house. DW, on the other hand, is behaving like a party that's been caught with its hand in the cookie jar and won't fess up to it, because their behavior makes it pretty obvious; otherwise why would Candace Owens imply things about Crowder's intentions she can't possibly know and try to malign him?
Unpopular opinion: Crowder is completely in the wrong.
The offer was a starting point, there’s no use in getting bent out of shape about it. DW has repeatedly spoken out against censorship and big tech. They have also been transparent about the contract and caught Crowder in some lies.
Crowder recorded that conversation for his own benefit. He’s going to start his own company. He registered thebigcon in advance of his supposedly innocent conversation with Jeremy.
I used to be in mug club, no longer. This is not how to win. This is just grifting.
Their starting point was leftist garbage. Congrats on being a cuck.
I get what you're saying, and everyone's free to have their own opinion as things unfold, but I think you're demonstrating a potentially crippling bias by picking a favorite and not keeping a bird's eye view.
Me personally, I like Crowder and DW, in fact I'm subbed to both on YT and watch their content on a semi-regular basis; that having been said, I'm able to take a step back and objectively evaluate how both sides have been behaving, and in that regard DW's behavior HEAVILY suggests guilt.
Just think of how an innocent person behaves in response to an allegation, vs. how someone behaves when they're guilty: DW so far is far more to the guilty side of the spectrum, and everything I've seen so far doesn't dissuade me from that perspective.
Crowder, from the start, has stated that this isn't intended to be an accusation, so much as it is prompting an at-the-time anonymous party to correct what he saw as biased and coercive behavior regarding content creators, such as himself. It was almost like an intervention, which while somewhat confrontational and unkind, is meant for the other party's best interests so that they admit having a problem and correct themselves. DW so far is behaving like an addict that would rather push their entire family away than admit they're addicted and seek help.
Now, insofar as whether the contracts that DW signs with its content creators and partners is coercive, exploitative, or censorious is concerned, the jury's still out with me, because I largely don't know contract law or how such contracts are typically handled, but just the behavioral aspects of this suggest that Crowder MAY have a point.
So far, Tim Pool's been in the middle of it covering the situation, and so far his perspective seems pretty moderate; I'd suggest you watch his recent content for a more objective view of the situation.
Nothing in that contract is salvageable. It literally is set up specifically to muzzle crowder.
Let's say you know you are worth $90K/yr salary. You go to your friend, who you've known for ten years, and tell him you'd love to work for him. Friend goes yeah, I'd love to have you...here's an offer.
It's for $50K/yr. And to top it off, you are an independant contractor so no 401K, health or benefits. What do you do in that situation? You know you're worth 90K, but by giving such an insultingly low offer, your only to choices are:
Counter with $130K, which if you do the back and forth compromise dance, ends up between 85-95K. (If you read between the lines, this is exactly what Crowder did with his "outrageous" counter-offer that Candace bitches about.) But if this is your friend, and he knows what he'd be willing to pay you, why not a "starting point" of 80K? Why insult you from the very start of the negotiations?
Walk away. Rather than go back and forth--which will do doubt forced to choose at every step between principles and money--realize you made a mistake about working for this person and walk away from the negotiation.
This exactly! I think a lot of the people who are on DWs are either some kind of faggot or have never worked a job where you have to carefully read employment contracts. I have, and some companies have tried to screw me in exactly the way you described. And like Crowder, I got fucking PISSED.
You are absolutely correct and I wish hairlip retards on this site could use some critical thinking. I am saying this as someone who fucking hates Ben, but appreciates what the rest of them has done for the culture. Crowder showed his ass as a petulant child that is not loyal to friends.
He's petulant for warning people to protect their content? Did you listen to his original video? He didn't even name DW because he didn't intend to go after them specifically. They aren't the only ones scamming creators. Those type of contracts are preditory.
He knew full well people would put two and two together, you don’t turn on “friends” and record them without I’ll intent. If you want to grow your own content your way, then don’t contract with a multimillion dollar company to back you, with their resources. If you don’t like the contract you don’t put on blast the people that you call your friends. Crowder did this to put his name out there no fucking doubt. He was becoming irrelevant and a failure so he saw a way to get his stupid name out there where a bunch of equally petulant children would back him.
Of course he did it with intent but it sounds like he made the decision to after they had some back and forth ending with him walking away. So his "friend" kinda turned on him first. I think he's way more relevant than DW tbh. I follow Candice Owens but Ben Shapiro is pretty annoying. He pushed the jab.
8 of your only 25 comments in the last 28 days have been in the last 24 hours, about Crowder. You take weeks off at a time because you arent one of us, youre a plant and a fraud with a whole stack of accounts - a disingenuous lying BITCH shuffling between throwaway accounts like the dickhead you are, only an idiot would take you seriously.
https://patriots.win/u/DblFistinPiston/
Folks, just click the link and look at the history. Guy barely posts once or twice a week but suddenly has all the time in the world to post here just as Leftist and RINOs and the establishment are all going after Crowder. Funny how that works.
You are so fucking stupid that you don’t even know how stupid you are. That’s pretty fucking stupid. Loser.
Ben came on Crowders show and said he was for big tech censorship, so they have that in common :p
Holy shit, I was just thinking "Sovereign Citizen" semantics vibes! I'm glad I wasn't the only one
I would pay to watch Ben Shapiro cry.
Drop a hat, it’s free
Just send him a pic of his sisters tits. The internet is full of them.
Pre or post boob job :p
both
The Canadian shop teacher???
I watched his show. He didn't look like he was going to cry, but he didn't look as chipper, smug, and defiant as usual. Shapiro said they were all friends, and how Shapiro had been Crowder's attorney years ago.
They have been friends. For a very long time. I'm sure that the Daily Wire genuinely believes they've done nothing wrong, despite my dislike for most of them at this point.
I'll chip in 5 bucks
Owens and Walsh about to learn they chose wrong
Funny thing is I don't like any of them (Crowder or Shapiro)..
Frankly I'm pissed at everyone lately.
Shapiro seems like he’s in character all the time. I know Steven isn’t— but he can be full of himself, too.
What a lot of people like you don't understand is that those guys aren't for you..... yeah they need regular subscribers to keep the lights on, but the real reason they are there is to attract newer people.... so it stands to reason that if they are mild enough to wake up and attract new people, then once you get extremely redpilled they are probably going to slowly become unbearable for you personally.....
There are levels to this shit.... Just like you definitely don't spend your very first day waking up and being redpilled by binging Bannon and Alex Jones..... Ideally you would graduate to those guys after a milder introduction.....
Them entertaining you is not at all why they are important in this movement... Which is exactly what Crowder is trying to explain that it is supposed to be about the future of our country and movement first and foremost and then money secondly......
I was rp by Jones and loose change around 2006 but I always had a distrust of authority, I just didn't know how bad it was
I think Russel Brand is doing a very good job red pilling normies
The funny thing about that is “the great reset” is what redpilled Russell.
Since the WEF had a portion of their website dedicated to “you will own nothing, and be happy,” he couldn’t just rationalize it or dismiss it. It was right there in black and white.
Lefties can still be woken up, it just has to be the right situation at the right time, and under those same circumstances.
Now the dude’s a goddam machine. He’s pulling in the holistic/meditative types too, which are a hard group to reach. Just look at Sam Harris for instance. Dude meditates a ton but never actually thinks.
It's also worth bearing in mind that the seeds for that waking up can be planted years in advance.
I started out on Mark Levin and Micheal Savage.
Can’t stand levin
So you mean Shapiro is like some kinda “gateway” conservative, eh?
So should the daily wire just be giving every Tom, Dick and Harry newcomer millions of dollars before they even prove themselves without even negotiating terms to benefit the company that is investing a ton of money and resources into them? Yeah sure, that’s going to last long.
I love how many people on this site are genius ceos of large media companies, yet we are still in the position we are in with messaging.
Well Crowder is a comedian, soooooo.....
Yeah, but it's like watching a bum fight... you won't gain or lose anything, but one of those two will stand to lose a fuckload more than they can afford.
I don't follow any of these folks, but it seems like the grassroots is siding with Crowder.
I have several friends who listen to both. They follow Shapiro like he's a serious person who knows what he's talking about, and they follow Crowder for the lulz. So, if this de-legitimizes Shapiro in the eyes of his fanbase, then I guess go Crowder.
What crowder just was kind of pussy shit though. He got an offer in October, presented a counter, both sides negotiated for a few weeks and both sides agreed to walk away in November. In December, Crowder registers "StopBigCon.com" and calls the DW CEO and secretly records the call. In January, he drops his new ad campaign, and plays his secret tapes.
WTF, who does that in a contract negotiation?
Where did you get that info? Probably from someone blast hot retard on the Dailywire as a defense.
No one fucking cares. We only care that another neo con soy boy psyop get hit in the dick and loses a fuck ton of money from siding with Big Tech to silence people.
How he went about it, I personally don't give a fuck. He showed those limp wristed fag boys to the world for the scum they are. No one complins about Veritas recording people to expose them, but Crowder records neocon Inc hard at work and he's an asshole. Lol.
Sure faggot. Sure.
I heard Mark Dice saying that. Watched his videos on it.
Hey buddy that’s not the shallow thinking I came here for, get the fuck out of here with that nuanced and non-emotional type of thought. Grrrrr….
You bring up some good points, but at the same time he’s a “breaking news” type of guy. He had, in writing, the reason outlets like DW were so widely shared on places like Facebook is because they’re requiring their people to play ball with Big Tech or be penalized.
To put this in context you gotta realize that DW is the most-widely shared news outlet on Facebook. Even more than the leftie ones. It’s not even close. No shit.
Steven claims it’s because of a deal they cut with Facebook, that gets stipulated in their employee contract terms, and reins them in with draconian fines for stepping out of line (something Steven revels in).
Basically DW is claiming they want to take on big tech, but at the same time speaking out the other side of their mouth and telling their employees to conform to the narrative, or else.
Everything you described could be the lead-up to the exposé they decided to do on this once negotiations fell through. This is actually a pretty big story.
https://patriots.win/u/waratah/
You're even worse than that cocksucker Piston, you only post on this account once or twice a month? Multiple weeks off and then you come back to shill for RINOs and insult Crowder?
You aint legit, yous a punk ass bitch. Why don't you post with your real primary account and stop being a cocksucker with the disposable account garbage?
6-7 times an hour? They must have cut the commercial breaks :p
Shapiro is suck a bankerboy bagelbiter it's gross
Shapiro is controlled opposition.
So is Crowder...
How so?
If Shapiro is controlled opposition then so is Crowder. Crowder is banned from all the same platforms as Shapiro. He's banned from all the same banks and payment processors as Shapiro. Crowder worked for Glenn Beck at The Blaze which is much worse than the Daily Wire. Crowder is branding the Daily Wire as "big con" but Crowder is just as much "big con" as they are.
https://gab.com/a/posts/109724411074422533
But Crowder left The Blaze. Isn't that what kicked off this whole thing?
What kicked off this whole thing is Crowder didn't want to negotiate a contract, he wanted to whine about it on the internet instead.
A petulant child at best, a grifting loser at worst. Fuck Crowder.
Says the fucking loser with a throwaway account, because you're too much of a pink dick bitch to comment with your main account. Fuckface.
Comment of a fagtard.
If what Crowder said is true he cares about the conservative movement. The daily wire only cares about how much money they can make off the conservative movement. Daily wire are the rhinos of online conservative media.
We don't need either for the movement. I don't watch Crowder and Shapiro is intolerable. Pay Salty 50 million. I bet Salty is taking notes on this. The fact Crowder is on Timcast proves it. Duel to the death with Star Trek music like on the cable guy.
You're wrong about not needing them. I didn't know who the fuck Salty was until coming here. I started my red pill journey on Joe Rogan, Crowder, Shapiro, and a bit of Tim Pool. I'm sure there's several others like me, so saying the movement doesn't need them is a stretch.
Red Pilled from Joe Rogan? Please spare me. Crowder started off fine. Their info is selective and watered down. They don't benefit MAGA maybe leftards. Shit bag Shapiro and Tim Tool can go suck each other off a water fall.
You forget that Rogan has a lot of different people on, including Crowder, Shapiro, and Jones. So yeah, red pilled off Rogan would be accurate.
If you think red pilling more people doesn't help your movement, I don't know what to tell you.
Joe Rogan fell off years ago and his podcast is irrelevant to me re: politics. Dude is a Bernie bro... Not to mention he's bought and paid for. That's a micro dose of a red pill from all of them. Shapiro's little weasel voice and face annoy me. Their info is the trickle down from the waterfall upstream. They're lapping up the gutter water.
You can hate Rogan all you want, and you're right he's 100 percent a tds Bernie lover, but he also continues to make people question the mainstream agenda, so it doesn't really matter if you like him or not. I hope more people watch him, and like the other user mentioned, I hope more people look into the older podcasts because that's what got me into a lot of those guys. I mean shit, he even got me into some of my favorite comedians like Bobby Lee, Tom segura, and Joey Diaz! But who gives a fuck, it doesn't matter! All the matters is that he continues to bring some people who are tired of the mainstream bullshit and want to see if there's a way to actually fucking save this country.
Enjoy all the downvotes being shoved up your whiny asshole, bud. There's a reason so many people disagree with you despite how arrogant and dismissive you are. Maybe try assessing your surroundings every once in a while.
Nobody gives a shit about your personal feelings and expectations for comment creators, yet you're speaking authoritatively, like your opinion matters. It doesn't. You have no standing or influence here.
Oh did I hurt your feelings? Not a down vote! Oh no! Whatever will I do! Fuck Joe Rogan, Fuck Steven Crowder, Fuck Tim Pool, Fuck Ben Shapiro. I found a bigger bitch than all of them.
Crowder helped prove that the election was rigged by driving around Michigan matching voter rolls to the non existent addresses where people supposedly voted from.
The change my mind stuff is all I know about Crowder
Who is Salty? Oh, another useless talking head. You sound so insipid. "haha these guys suck but my guy is different"
Yup
Salty Cracker is a cursing Caucasian from Cali, hyperconservative former liberal 40-year-old Millennial, high energy hilarity, dripping with sarcasm and blunt speech: https://saltmustflow.com
You don't know Salty Cracker on Rumble? Shows how Maga you are. Let me repeat... Crowder and Shapiro are useless to the movement. Both of them aren't worth five minutes of my time. Salty is the absolute best.
Agreed! Salty is way more entertaining and nearly as informative. High energy hilarity!
Nobody fucking knows who salty cracker is. Wtf you talking about.
If you're on TDW and don't know Salty Cracker. I don't know how to help you. More entertaining and informative than all of those losers
I like salty but come guy just reacts to story's too and yells like a kid with ADHD on a Suger high. Also the fact he lives in California and you know he can move out of that s*** whole state makes me question him.
I find him to be extremely informative and humorous. He does have ADD. I live in CA too. Los Angeles, CA is where its at . The best beaches and the Sierra Nevada mountains. Can't beat it. Sure is a cesspool in the city and the homelessness is beyond out of control. I do want to leave. You cant spend much time in the city that shits lame anyway. The liberals and liberal policies of our failed Gov. are what ruin this place.
As much as I hate to say, it doesn’t matter if people on here know who he is. The Normies need to know who he is and they know who Crowder is and they know who daily wire people are for the most part.
Wall of text inc!
I don't like Daily Wire, I do like the college campus debates and will occasionally listen to Knowles and Walsh, but I'm MAGA and Daily Wire is not, but will tip my hat that they have been a good counterbalance in the culture war against communism.
I like Crowder's show, but think he's also a bit shifty and an asshole behind the scenes which is why Owen Benjamin, Notgayjared, Svencomputer, etc all aren't there anymore, his crew has been fairly stable of late but I think Quarter Black isn't there anymore as I see him doing a lot of indy stuff now and don't recall seeing him on the show but only watch a time or two a month. I love that he brought Pops Crowder and Dave Landau on, they get the most laughs out of me (my primary reason for watching) and some of my favorite episodes are the ones where he is gone and Landau is hosting doing the Norm MacDonald type shit where he's fucking up the ad reads and show storyboard/plan.
Candace was scheduled before the drama, but since the drama unfolded it ended up being the whole show. Crowder registered his domain stopbigcon.com in December on the 12th already planning for this. The domain is registered in Canada, so fuck that shit too. I think Candace did a decent character attack on Crowder, bringing up some important points about why he shouldn't be the one leading this charge. I think she failed in defending Daily Wire's "contract" and failed herself and Daily Wire by trying to defend things like "it's not a contract", that's a leftist bullshit word substitution, it's terms for... a contract.
I think Crowder was amoral recording and releasing the conversation, I do not think that was the case with the contract as there's no NDA and while it's generally considered appropriate to keep the terms hush hush, contracts will frequently get published. I'm glad they at least brought it up on Timcast that Texas is single party consent.
I look forward to hearing Crowder defend himself on Monday. I think Tim Pool is a bit controlling and an asshole as well, but as he said when you're in business you get stabbed in the back all the time and so it hardens you. As to which side I'm on, while I prefer Crowder's content, I'm on the sideline
Notgay left cause he got a child iirc and didnt want to continue doing stuff that may have cancelled him permanently
https://twitter.com/TheJaredMonroe/status/1616515785605713927
Says he doesn't want to get into and that it was his personal choice. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just building conflict and Crowder gave him a decent going away package under NDA to not harm his image, which isn't all uncommon.
Quarter black made a few comments on FNT last night. Nothing too solid from what I saw but he seemed to be somewhat supportive of Crowder without being down on DW too much and mentioned that Crowder called him before it happened to let him know to let him prepare. He seemed mostly like he didn't want to get involved.
Basically same, but I've just not really enjoyed Crowder that much ever, except change my mind. I like some of his crew, especially Dave Landau. Pretty sure quarter black is officially off the staff, and has been for at least a few months (maybe coinciding with the end of his blaze contract?).
If you think DW is not truly conservative fine have your opinion, but dont try to relaunch your failing business on the backs of a decently successful conservative media group. Don't ask people to pick sides. We should all be able to fucking disagree honestly without acting like leftists.
And while Candace is dumb, it was interesting to hear her take on it. I think ppl get too bogged down in the contract/offer semantics, when to me the point is just DW made an offer, Crowder didn't want to negotiate it, and decided to crucify them instead.
Seems like a lot of foogazi.
foo-Gay-zee like in wolf of wall Street
Like in Donnie Brasco
I only subscribed to the daily wire to support crowder back when he was foot to the ground investigating fake voter addresses.
I did not even use the platform to watch him.
If he is not going to be there, I see no reason to hold onto the subscription. I dropped it the moment I heard he was leaving.
If others are doing the same thing, I can see why the DW is in panic mode.
You’re confusing DW for the Blaze
Thanks for the clarification. Like I said in my post, I never even used it to watch him. I just subscribed to support someone looking into the election.
I know he did a video about leaving the platform he was on. I did not realize that there were 2 separate controversies.
Ok retard, too bad Crowder was never on DW before. Get back to the rice field, wumao
You talk like a liberal.
Better to be an american liberal than a chinese communist wumao. They shouldn't pay you $0.50 for such a dumb comment.
Hmm, I amend my statement.
A 12 year old liberal. A little baby liberal whose post history, at least anything recent, is nothing but crude insults and word salad.
That seems to be the extent of your ability to communicate.
You got the racism part down, which is par for the course for crazy liberals.
Even though you don't mock the correct race...
Which is also pretty normal, for your people.
And an utterly uninspiring insult. Boring and idiotic.
Well, the good news is conservative new media is fighting for a growing number of followers. I think more and more leftists are dying from the jabs and the ones remaining are starting to shift further to the right every day.
All of these peasants are fighting over the fruit of RUSH LIMBAUGH'S labor. All hail the golden microphone. These clowns aren't fit to trim Rush's cigars.
Shapiro is Jewish McConnell without the chinese spy wife.
If I was subscribed to Daily Wire this would have been enough to cancel it.
And TBH it's pretty easy to do charge-backs/disputes and it really fucks up the company defending against it. Easy refund if you paid for something and didn't receive it. Doesn't matter what the TOS or some shit says.
Good fucking riddance
Fucking clowns
They hate you and you listen to them all day everyday
Good!! Fuck the Daily Wire. They are controlled opposition.
Notice how the DW never gets banned or demonetized. It's because they are part of the globalist swamp.
The dude from the Quatering knows nothing. All he does is read articles and react to them.
I never really liked the quartering very much but the dude is growing on me
Him making up random shit makes you like him more
If this was simply a misunderstanding about the intentions behind a contract, then Crowder never would've had to spend months prepping this action, and DW wouldn't have responded by trying to discredit the issue. If this was truly a disagreement between peers, it would've already been resolved reasonably behind the scenes and we never would've learned about it.
That DW has reacted this way, kinda proves Crowder's point, and the fact that mentioning this on DW's videos gets you a hail of not only upvotes but condemning commentary (with a suspicious amount of shadowbanned comments) indicates that they're going into 'cover your ass' mode instead of being introspective and accommodating.
DW is not acting like an honest actor, and the fact that the narrative coming out of DW is that Crowder's actions are a 'betrayal' basically confirms they aren't.
Crowder never said it was a misunderstanding. Dw did. Crowder came into this planning to expose the predators actions, not the predators themselves. Dw outed themselves to try to outrun the bad pr because they knew the contract was jewy shit. Jeremy said it best, wage slaves. Dance monkey.
Yeah, DW has pretty much exposed themselves without saying a word by their actions post-revelation. We all know how someone reacts when they're facing a false accusation, or even an accusation that wasn't aimed at them, vs. a guilty party that has the same events unfold.
While it's not completely definitive that DW is guilty to a court of law level, their behavior heavily suggests guilt. DW is not staffed by stupid or incompetent people, so you'd think that they'd be able to handle this a LOT better than they did, and frankly their behavior since Crowder first got the ball rolling on this has almost been the way the leftist publications behave when they get called out... which only goes to give credit to Crowder.
Exactly.
I think this is business. The deal sucked? Okay don’t take the deal. Crowder never needed DW. He has the subscribers, he could do what Tim Poole did easily. He’d make more money anyway. This idea of hosting others is nonsense. His contracts will look exactly like DWs. 100%.
This should never have been made public IMO. Everyone looks bad here to some degree.
Good fuck the RINO big tech cucks!
Retarded sheep finally ditching that filthy trash, so that they can turn on fox news and stay stupid.
I wish TheQuartering would stfu about this. We know he built Crowder's new website, in a rush, when he was kicked out of the Blaze a few months back. Jeremy even ended up drunk and crying on stream afterwards, then had to apologize for the stress causing him to act unprofessional.
Like, we get it, Jeremy. You don't want other Jeremy getting those sweet Mugbucks you worked so hard for. But I'm worried that if DW was right, and Crowder doesn't sell a bajillion subs, Crowder will turn on him, blame Jeremy for the failure, and I'll lose my favorite coffee monger.
Meh, they’re both wrong in this case.
DW absolutely made a shit lowball offer, the guy Crowder recorder admitted as much and they sent their employees after Crowder. I also take issue with their practice of giving shit contracts to upcoming conservative influencers and then helping their channels grow to maximize DW’s profits
As for Crowder, he shouldn’t have released the recording like that and considering the timeline and when he created the website it does look like a grift.
It's interesting to see these conservative powerhouses start creating their own networks. If what's going on is true, and I do lean towards crowders side on this one, then I'm actually excited to see what he has to bring to the table. Personally I'm only interested im What is a Woman and Jordan Peterson on the Daily Wires paid subscription. I like Brett Cooper and all, but... ehh...
Now if crowder could bring interesting creators to the table like the hodge twins and new faces to do things that regular broadcasters are afraid to risk, then it might be amazing. Like if he signed salty to do some fun show, I would watch the fucking SHIT out of it. Now of course I'd want any creator to own their own content, but this is exactly what crowder wants and seems to believe in. The daily wire does not. I would love to support this. And then there would be an actual reason to support the merchandise too because you're supporting the creators directly!
Maybe it's just all a misunderstanding between both parties, but even then I still wouldn't want crowder on the daily wire. I hated the blaze's media player and I'm not a fan of the daily wires. I'd be curious to see how crowder would go about it, but again these are details that we'd have to see to make an informed decision.
This is one of those situations where there are two shitty jalopies careening out of control at 75mph towards each other and make a head on collision.
At first you think, "oh my how awful"
Then you find out it's the perennial 15 yr old twerp with a cracking pubertyvoice being driven to boarding school by smithers the butler (shapiro) in one car, and some ruling class failson coopted by the CIA for being too mediocre to be a spy and too crass to be on television, in the other car. Neither deliver the truth. Neither have ANYTHING new or interesting to say, because they wait until "the current fauxservative alternative thing is flushed out, and then they claim it as if they came up with it"
All they produce is content lameware. Calling them mediocre, in fact, is generous. The ONLY way these people get where they are is being given the boost by the ruling class (as in they are controlled oppo), who are kingmakers--they choose winners and losers. In this case, you may have thought I meant they were the losers and you guys are the winners. While that is true, it's unfortunately the opposite.
In our car scenario, no sophie's choice involved. It's essentially two fentanyl dealers with florida plates crashing into each other.
Some problems solve themselves.
And another thing. Crowder is so stupid he's getting nothing. He's losing millions he almost had. What a fool. If you're going to sell out, go big or go home. Apparently he slept thru summer school at langley. Idiot.
I'm out of the loop. Why are Shapiro and Crowder feuding???
Off topic, Grats on becoming a Mod!
You've always made great posts.
I'm only a mod in c/Gaming, but thanks!
Funny that Crowder predicated this exposé by identifying himself as a Christian. And that’s important because (authentic) conservatism is inextricably linked to Christianity. Ergo, the enemies of Christianity will infiltrate in order to both exploit and undermine. And the archenemy of the Christian is the Jew.
Just remember the “right” has to go skmewhere so they give us “right” leaning news in the end it’s still a game and we are still their cattle
It's amazing how these people get caught up in this media goop.