2291 Me watching Big Tech employees & H-1Bs getting fired from Big Tech 2 years after getting kicked off Big Tech platforms. (media.communities.win) YES posted 66 days ago by McFatty7 66 days ago by McFatty7 +2291 / -0 174 comments download share 174 comments share download save hide report block hide replies
Send the H1Bs back to whatever shithole country they came from, America is full.
I'd bet those that were downsized weren't H1Bs.
"Nearly 80,000 Indian IT professionals on H-1B and L1 visas now jobless scrambling for options to stay in the US"
Rakesh has 60 days to either find another job/sponsor, or he packs his shit and goes back to Pune.
Note - With very few exceptions it will take a month just to get that first interview in tech these days, three weeks or so to get an offer, and then the 3-6 week process of getting that H1-B re-sponsored (assuming shit isn't jammed-up because the relevant government agencies are swamped all to fuck right now due to the layoffs...)
funny thing, I'm seeing more and more H1-B workers deciding 'fuck it', and moving back to India anyway. They realize that while the promised $90k/yr is more than they've ever seen in their life, $90k/yr in most coastal cities is poverty wages these days.
Please do the needful and go the fuck home.
"Do the needful". Haha. You've been there, eh? Funny.
Maybe we can manage an budget crises and the government will shut down. No visa for you.
90k/year is rich as Hell where they're sending that money. Americans in the same positions in the midwest are making a little over half that. These jobs were supposed to be meant for skill they couldn't find in the states, but that's not at all what it's used for.
Oh, they typically live in the cheapest, sleaziest apartment they can pack 4 roommates into, then send every spare dime back to their homeland... but you're not going to raise a family in the US that way, that's for certain.
Most H1-B's pull off the same trick the illegals do: send every spare dime home to the wife and/or family, then go home after a couple of years to use all that money to open a business (or if home is enough of a shithole, just live off the savings and be set for life.)
90k a year ain't poverty anywhere lol
In Silicon Valley, after taxes, that won’t even cover rent. We’re all slaves to these parasites.
They live 4+ to one apartment.
spot on..that's why they live 10-20 in a rented house and hotbed when they are not Ubering fares or food.
I guess you haven't lived in the Bay Area when my pay was $110,000 a year in San Francisco but I lived up north because they said $85,000 years poverty line in San Francisco when your average rent is $4,000 a month and your take home is 8,000 a month good luck paying all your bills and having a couple of toys and go on vacation
You must be an H1B from a shithole country.
This is why they have kids as soon as possible so they can get green cards off their kids backs
Is this true? Damnit. Eight years in on an H1B, now green card, from Canada. Didn't know that was a thing
I know some that have been let go. None are planning to leave yet. Some already have new jobs.
It's not like ICE will chase them down. Or anyone.
Really bummed they can't stay, take American jobs, and suck the life out of benefits meant for Americans while not paying taxes. It sure is tough
Sorry, I meant stay as in legitimately. Don't immigrants get like a 7 year tax break or some shit?
no they do not get a tax break, however the really smart ones with great tax attorneys will claim upon leaving America that their native country is domicile is in India and will pay Tax in India and claim back the tax they paid over their work time in America. This is how Google/MS/Energy Companies/Apple never pay tax in America because they claim to live and pay Tax in another country and legally you can not pay tax on earnings twice but rather Tax in the nation you are legally domiciled in.
Revoke their visas put them on a plane. Good bye
Waves in MAGA
An entire nation of scam artists. They’re just gypsies with an internet connection.
I quit consulting in tech partially to get away from entire teams of poos. Being the only White dude on a team was getting lonely and frustrating, especially when I had to fly out to the client for the privilege. Now I have a nice remote job working for a company doing the same job but getting paid nearly twice as much.
Was great...until I was assigned a role to help manage a project by a vendor...full of Indians that are at least 50% bullshit.
Time for all of them to go home.
Any of them that had kids in the US will be protected if they file for permanent resident. There are Indian specific websites and message boards that have all of ths information organized on how to work the system
This needs to change.
Someone needs to enforce the rest of the amendment that states "subject to the jurisdiction thereof". It was never meant for those born here whose parents are not citizens or nationals to become citizens, and we are likely the only country in the world that allows this.
Nope works the same way in Mexico. If you are the parent , child, or sibling of another Mexican citizen or Mexican permanent resident you can also apply for citizenship. Can't speak for other countries but I do know Mexico. Koreans are doing the same thing down there at a very fast rate. 10 yrs ago you wouldn't see Koreans anywhere in Mexico outside of tourist destinations and now they are in every major city.
What I meant is birthright citizenship.
I believe most countries in the world require at least one of the parents to be a citizen or a national before they confer citizenship on Their offspring that is born in that Nation.
Currently in the US the courts have more or less ruled that if a child of anyone other than a diplomat is born in the US, that action alone confers citizenship upon The offspring even if neither parent are in the country legally. That is why the Constitution says subject to the jurisdiction thereof because that is supposed to mean lawfully present in our country, and not immune from our laws because of being a diplomat.
Surprisingly, most countries in north and south America give birthright citizenship (jus soli). In the US, it is bring granted by a misinterpretation of the 14th amendment, but in most other countries in the Americas, it is explicitly granted.
Well, if their goal is to become an American citizen... why should they need to jump through the hoops if they'd be a net positive for the US?
However, if their goal is to syphon off wealth and send it back home... then they should go back from whence they came.
Stumbled on to a Twitter user who posts great stuff and seems to stay on top of current issues: https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers
The IRS is hiring.
So are the CA police 😳
DO NOT REDEEM SIR OR I WILL SHOOT!
Whatever happened with them repealing the H1B caps by country? Is that still a thing or did they get their way to just import only poor third worlders and not white people from Europe? Anyone know the status on that?
Many of those were executive orders or rule changes which either were rescinded or cancelled by potatus puppet handlers. A court also struck down some of the rules. Their goal is to destroy middle class Americans as fast as possible so anything in the way was removed
God forbid someone born in the USA goes to college for 4/5 years and maintains the code of an American software company, amirite?
I didn't make the rules and I'm not stating an opinion. I'm just explaining the way it is
Those kind of proposals are only made during election season, knowing that they have almost no chance of actually becoming a law.
Just like how DACA seems to be in the news right before an election.
It’s just to get votes and that’s it.
where i got laid off, h1bs stayed. they mostly let go americans. most conservatives and normies are gone since being outspoken against wokeness didn’t earn me any points. i’ll make it, ill struggle, but i will never surender to the left.
feel I'm about to be in the same boat, friend. Just hired a bunch of them and our work is dwindling. The sad thing is, they can barely speak English, think critically, and they handle information your life depends on. It's one of the more screwed up things I've had the privilege to see in life.
I don't even know how they passed an interview with the way they speak. Most of them use data dumps for certs and graduating their shitty schools, with US jobs being their first. That's why they're suck so much ass when you get one on the phone. They're cheats and con artists.
brother i get you, been there. stay strong, hoping itll be ok. will do a prayer for you abd family.
H1Bs have lower flight risk than their American counterparts. If they hate their job, the options are either to move to another employer willing to sponsor them or leave the country
The H1Bs also cost a significant amount , min 10k and possibly more to sponsor.
For corporations, the sponsorship cost makes up for itself since H1Bs can effectively be forced into doing so much unpaid overtime.
Iunno the actual stats, but I've seen some of the layoffs and there were definitely a lot of white Americans in the pile.
Layoffs.fyi also have some of the data so it might be possible to figure out
I also bet they retained their DEI teams.
They really need to just eliminate this visa. Like let all the existing ones go to term, but never issue it again.
And then go fix the immigration system because if there's people that will be adding to the tax pool that want to come here, and they also want to be an American, then we should figure out how to make that work and make them citizens paying into the tax pool without it taking over a decade to do that.
The companies will never allow it, because they say they can't get enough Americans with the education they need. Also, Americans are 3x the price. They care more about profit than what's best for the country.
There are plenty of Americans with the needed education, don't believe that lie. Ever get Indian tech support on the phone? The only ones with a good education come from wealthy families and legitimately immigrate to America.
Yeah, the colleges focusing more on idiotic degrees like underwater basket weaving, liberal arts, and gender studies instead of STEM isn't helping things.
Hate to burst any bubbles but the invaders aren't going anywhere. If anything, they'll ship you off.
I hear Ukraine is looking for tank crews. Tank you for calling.
Learn how to tank.
i actually can tank. been there done that. not planning on going to ukraine to be cannon fodder for zelenski.
Then we'll need you for Harpers Ferry 2.0.
We'll all be learning something along those lines soon enough!
They will tank you, beddy much.
This is great and all, but now I have to face 10x the applicants on my job search. Frickin sucks; I’m the best out there and now it’s flood with people that have ‘Twitter’ or Google as their last job.
I can relate, here's hoping they change the "algorithm" and find new ways of discerning talent than looking for commie buzz words on resumes.
Add a "xir/zim"
I wouldn't worry about them. Plenty of other roles unless you're looking to be a top 1% engineer. Those people aren't gonna be competing in the same market as most. The ones they let go are likely HR, marketing, etc. Most of the engineers either got to stay or are gonna demand an unrealistic salary from other companies. This may actually be a better time to undercut those people and get your foot in the door.
That's my problem, my skill is working with people AND tech, plus I'm a culture creator. I just don't throw flavorless layers on my resume cake. Plus, it's hard to be optimistic now when you hit all the personal questions so they can meet their DNI quoatas.
Why are tech companies getting the government to import non Americans instead of giving the jobs to Americans? America First for all employment, from blue collar to white collar.
Because the US gov is effectively subsidizing H1-B employment, the company gets to pay shit in return for granting them access to America and all the associated benefits of living here instead of Bangledesh. And second, because foreigners have no loyalty to America or no concept of American values, they have no ethical or moral problems doing the dirty work of subverting American democracy that is the reason that big tech is allowed to exist in the first place.
Aids wage suppression too.
Yes, all immigration does. H1-B is especially egregious because these employees are effectively indentured servants
Basically a corrupt and broken system that benefits the ones making the laws at the detriment of every other citizen. Which is an interesting concept that should be baked into whether a law, policy, or whatever is valid. Does it aid a small minority at the detriment of the greater society. Which seems like it to could be abused, but I don't think our system accounts for this.
There's never been a shortage of tech workers in the US. None of these H1B workers are more qualified than any Americans, but the tech companies are using them to keep pay low for the positions. There should be tariffs on any services provided across the Internet for any of these third world shithole countries.
Because people like RINO Republican Bloomberg didn’t mean to hire AMERICAN CODERS!
It's cheaper. That's basically it.
Fire and ship them back and then hire me as a dev. Or a product owner. I need a job soon.
I guarantee H1B's are being reassigned to different departments and only Americans and Green-card holders are being fired. Being in the Tech industry I've seen that over and over again. Wish I could get out of it. It's a huge trap.
Which is complete bullshit! US taxpayers funded the development of the Internet and these third world shithole countries took both the tech and American jobs. Want to remove the majority of security issues from our country? Cut all of them off at our borders. India has millions of people, yet they also have a caste system that keeps certain people in their place to be exploited, so they come to the US because they have more opportunities than in their own country. Clean the shit out of your own streets and leave us alone!
What would you do outside of tech that fetches similar pay?
No idea, really. Since only the H1Bs get raises and bonuses I don't make very much. Been freelancing the last few years so I don't even have references at this point. I've checked a few things, like bookkeeping or finance but they are all contractors as well. Tech is a trap.
Open a business. Take personal responsibility.
Silicon Valley was once a fountain of unlimited innovation and the prospect of a bright future. Now it emulates a 3rd-world shithole.
It just couldn't be the replacement of the hyper-intelligent, gearhead-type, multi-disciplinary, goober, pocket-protector-wearing, slide-rule-using, white family man!
The type of kids that spent their youth building jet engines in their father's garages, working circuits out on protoboard, playing and writing PC games?
No way, man. It was totally Pajeet.
Exactly the vibe I was getting at. And fuck Pajeet ... he should be back in India stripping down toxic mercury-containing electronics parts.
"Silicon Valley" was once called "The Valley of Heaven's delight". It was one of the most fertile valleys in the entire state. So what did they do? Kicked all the farmers out, poured it full of cement, filled it with pompous nepotistic communist oligarchs. All the while forcing farmers into the wasteland desert. The whole place should be burnt to the ground, along with everyone in it. It's existence itself is in direct violation of nature.
you know they aren't leaving though, they will just become visa overstays and we don't have any enforcement to remove anyone
How will Microsoft release their next big Windows 11 feature of rounded corners if they let them go?!! How will we all survive? Plan 9 had distributed processing across the network and all we get today is user interface changes (breakage).
That damn "more options" just to get to copy/paste on a right click of a file just confuses the hell out of me! Who thought that it was a good idea?!!
Honestly, that's all that they got these days is to mess with the user interface. I'm imagining that they have meetings where they all get together on where they are going to move the search bar this time. Well, Bob, we had it at the top and the bottom before that, so let's put it in a new tab.
Fuentes had his twitter account restored today. I however remain banned for posting a neon genesis evangelion meme...
Must have had a lot of truth in it, you can lie and be fine on social media. Don't tell the truth though.
it definitely questioned inconsistent facts surrounding a certain historical event...
Second Impact wasn't caused by a meteorite striking Antartica?
no prior to that
Oh yeah, can't even have that discussion. Free speech you see.
I remember about 10 years ago I found out a friend of a friend got hired for Google. And all I could think was "wow that's surprising, I thought they were a weirdo idiot, but secretly they're a genius, go figure. "
What I should have thought was "we are living in a communist cesspool and society is going to shit."
Good thing no one stapled a green card to the back of their diplomas.
Democrats: “Write that down, write that down!”
I can’t believe there were Dems suggesting that. It would basically allow foreigners to buy their way into the US via their kids
That was a Charlie Kirk policy proposal.
I also remember Crooked Hillary proposing it in 2016
THEY HAVE TO GO BACK.
Ubuntu, GrapheneOS, Protonmail.
Soon they'll all be IRS agents or California Police.
It's fitting irony that they'll be rehired into some third world dumpster fire bot farm and will be forced to teeter on the cusp of financial ruin while lying to their friends and family over the holidays when telling them they're still in Big Tech.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch, very possible they are getting rid of the last actual Americans in their companies.
If you see any of them bitching on Twitter about it, be sure to tell them they can always go build solar panels!
These people that are getting fired from google are making out like bandits.
Some are getting 8-10 months severance.
Let’s say you make $400k, like some of those useless fucks did.
Let’s say 9 months.
180-190 after taxes. Get a new job.. invest that 150 and you have 1.6m
Google will write it off as a loss…meanwhile…
NY will pay you back now on Covid supply costs, like paper towels and hand sanitizer…I just saw an ad today saying reclaim cost for keeping employees during Covid, the ones you forced to vax or how about contractors? Does hiring someone who already pays tax subdue your taxes…. Well yes, it does, but we’re gonna now amplify that under a govt commerce incentive
Good riddance to those pajeet H-1B grifters.
H1Bs get fired last. They are generally cheaper than Americans.
So it's likely that the street-shitters are still collecting a paycheck.
H1-B needs to die. no more farming in temporary contract-length foreigners until all American tech workers have a job...and even then you need to provide a damn good case for it. Invest in training for employees, pay a salary people can actually live off of and no shit-canning people after the project is over to prevent having to offer benefits.
Even when you get beyond the H1B abuses, you still have big tech hiring massive amounts of contractors via proxy offices in other countries. They save so much money outsourcing to those outfits that they often end up building brand new offices in those countries for the proxy work forces while selling products out of the US and reaping the benefits of being a US based employer.
H1Bs? They're probably getting promoted! Our dogshit company didn't even go that far, they just hired a bunch of outsourced Indians who don't even live here, to basically fuck around.
They can't speak correct English, don't care about our country or its people, have very little incentive to care about the job itself, are in an area known for scamming Americans, try to get us to do their work which was previously ours, and have access to all important information no American citizen would enjoy knowing they have.
Meanwhile, the workload for those based in America is the smallest it has ever been, yet our metrics left unchanged. I assume a big hit is coming in the next month or two.
How do we know they're firing the HB1s and not the native born Americans?
These big tech employees should be happy. They worked hard to get Biden installed, and they got what they wanted. Sure the economy is shit, and we all warned that would happen, but it was really fucking important to them that Biden get installed.
Learn to code?
Learn to mine!
Standard operating procedure for all companies now is to both lay off permanent staff and reduce contractors at every "down turn". When times are better they negotiate with the outsource providers to increase as needed and sparingly hire perm staff. One of the perks for them in any lay-off is reducing permanent staff.
They should start their own Google or Microsoft or whatever company fired them. All these super woke employees thought they found a woke safe space wheee their company make billions and was super woke so therefore they Woolf not have to face the consequences of their woke ideology . These people shield stop consoling and build their own Microsoft and shut up .
Irs needs 87000 lefty goons that can trample citizens rights with impunity. Tech fires 87000 lefties that trample citizens Constitutional right to free speech. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Shouts to Trump for protecting American jobs with direct action, in the few places that were directly under his purview. Promises kept.
When will these cognitively dissonant and dystopian peons and serfs realize that the global criminal cabal owned and operated mutinational corporations don’t give a fat rat’s ass about them?
Learn to coal (mine).
And the startup I’m building just got funding. What a weird 180