This is the overwhelming majority of my friends. Trump is not underestimating his 2024 support. DeSantis is miscalculating MAGA support for his successful governorship to be 2024 support for the Presidency.
Charlie Kirk: "I gave President Trump my word, that I will support him if he runs in 2024. I am going to keep my word. Look, I think DeSantis could be a good President. But I know Trump was a great President." (Emphasis Charlie Kirk's, not mine.)
My personal theory is that DeSantis is being pushed into this to be the GOPe’s “acceptable” candidate. I don’t know why he’s going along with it and I don’t care. If he puts himself against Trump, we’re going to lose both of them.
I'm willing to hear both Trump and Ron's cases for why they deserve my vote.
Trump needs to answer some key questions of why he is pushing the vaxx even after the new information is coming out about it, and why he is backing Lindsey Graham.
But my take is I like both and want one unified ticket of both.
Conservatives like to nit-pick other conservatives to death focusing on flaws instead of attributes and bigger picture.
We’re going to have to swarm the deep state gates in ‘24… they won’t let Trump win no matter what, but exposing them has always been one of Trump’s greatest strengths. Even if further exposing the fraud is all this run accomplishes, we must put the full force of MAGA behind him and swarm the gates from every possible angle to whatever extent we can.
this isn't one issue. it is a pattern of not being able to learn from mistakes. It is a glaring issue evidenced by the vaccine, as well as his endorsements, personel choices
the guy went in with 0 political experience and stood up against a massive machine arrayed against him- and won
again, he made YUGE achievements in terms of the economy
and he has left the MSM in ruins, social media is backing down from censorship, woke culture is dying, the GOPe is failing, he has eliminated many RINOs, Biden is heading for impeachment and worse and the dems are eating each other alive in their mad scramble to save their sinking ship
"But muh vax!"
He can't do anything about it, the problem is being handled, people are waking up
Now y'all either need to dump this dem inspired divisiveness and get behind Trump or get the fuck off the Trump Train
Nah, fuck the Vaxxx bullshit, questions and all....
All of that shit hs gone on for such a long time, that all we will get from it is just BS, and t doesn't matter who we ask....
What we need is to push trump into the Presidency, and THEN send him letters demanding things we ALL agree upon.....
Massive Deportations, better Wall, like one that isn't easily cut through with a torch, like put a Pipe inside the beams, and Rods inside the pipes, maybe soe steel balls, aim the entire DOJ at the CIA and FBI, and the DemonRats in Congress, and the RINOs too.....
Trump will have massive POWER, but only IF he chooses to use it....
That will get him less normie votes the more they wake up. The media is already pivoting to call it the "Trump vaccine" which Trump seems to be doing half their work for them :p
I agree with your point, DeSantis is being influenced by big money donors who have poured millions into his campaign and now there is a whole army of handlers in his camp. The Citadel CEO, Griffin has moved from Chicago to Miami and they are propping him up for a 2024 Run, a youth movement with DeSantis vs. Newsome. DeSantis wife is ambitious and she has ties to BlackRock and she badly wants to be First Lady.
When Trump makes his DeSanctimonious statements he knows DeSantis is making moves to ready himself to announce a 2024 run. The Deep State and the UniParty will embrace DeSantis and paint Trump in a negative light and many Democrats will say good things about DeSantis so they can split the vote and create friction in the Republican Party.
The only person that can save this country from tyranny and communism is Trump and if DeSantis would agree to be his running mate or Secretary of State we might be able to have a 12 year run of patriots running this country and have a chance at saving this Republic but I expect DeSantis to turn on Trump soon.
Nobody wants to see Trump tearing down DeSantis but DeSantis is influenced by all the money and attention he is receiving now and the Deep State and UniParty would allow him to win as long as Trump doesn't win.
The UniParty and the swamp only fear one man, Trump and everyone else can be controlled.
Until recently the vast majority of large and medium size hedge funds were either black rock or vangaurd (owns black rock) owned or at least "affiliated" because its basically a cartel of financial services. As far as I am concerned personally, I judge a tree by its fruits, as Jesus said. Not by guilt by associations. If that was true no one would be supporting Trump because look at all the RINOs he put in!
I think DeSantis has a better record of opposing liberalism than trump did
trump focused on foreign affairs but neglected domestic issues such as antifa blm critical race theory and LGBT grooming
DeSantis has been strong on those
That said let's not divide the movement
I will support WHOEVER runs under the Republican ticket in the general
If that's trump I'll vote for him
I only ask that If by some happenstance DeSantis finds his way into the ticket instead of Trump (maybe Dems finally manufacture fake charges against Trump and take him as a political prisoner) that all Republicans do the same for DeSantis and support him if he is the party candidate
Either would be amazing. And any would be better than 46
But let's not get into squabbles when only one of them will be on the ticket in the end anyway..
My preference would be a Trump/Desantis ticket. Unfortunately the establishment Repubs will convince him that he's the best candidate because they hate Trump and never wanted him on the ticket in 2016. Desantis is no fool but big money donors and his own ego I suspect will sway him to the dark side. He seems principled when it suits him. I'd rather see him as VP first to make sure his allegiances are really where we think they are. When you consider that 30-pence Mike was originally considered a loyal conservative. Thank God we got to see him in action as VP before we had a chance to elect him as POTUS. Desantis needs to get more foreign affairs experience. Running a state and running a country are two entirely different things. That said, I'd still vote for him if I had no alternative, but Trump is my first choice since he's already proven he can MAGA.
that wouldn't be my preference, whoever ends up on Trumps team will lend up damaged goods. if it is going to be Trump (which i am not opposed to), it should be Trump and someone else, the Desantes is 2028
The UniParty want DeSantis and it will be a full MSM blitz of favorable coverage of DeSantis and he will be portrayed as a uniter, someone that both sides like agree with and he will be the Chosen One. Trump is the only one the UniParty and the swamp fear.
So Trump prefers foriegn affairs and DeSantis prefers to work on domestic affairs...
If only there was some way they could work togeather, like on a team... where they could both compliment each others strengths...
I agree. DeSantis is doing a very good job. Trump was soft on a lot of things and has a very long record of backing or surrounding himself with the wrong people. Lately all Trump has done is tweet stupid things that make him look petty and egotistical. He did great while he was president, but I don't think he is the same man anymore. The biggest problem with DeSantis running for president is that Florida will probably suffer if he wins.
And so will we. DeSantis is the RINO/Uniparty candidate. Backed by Romney, Ryan, JEB!, and now, Sununu. DeSantis is owned, lock, stock and barrel by Ken Griffin who owns Citadel hedge fund.
DeSantis doesn't have f*&^ you money like Trump, who isn't beholden to anyone. I won't vote for DeSantis because he's a fraud and isn't MAGA.
Not to mention that trump is right; it would be incredibly disloyal of Ron to go against Trump when he would be nothing without Trump. You think I want a backstabbed like that in my corner? Fuck that shit.
Sadly, I think this is it. In order to "move up the totem pole". While Hes taken money from the "Uniparty" folks. I still think hes closer to us than them. At least he's not Ted Cruz
It's not just taking the money. DeSantis is close friends with Ben Sasse AND Paul Ryan. Which should tell people everything they need to know about who DeSantis really is.
Not only that, DeSantis is on record making fun of Trump and MAGA. He's not one of us, he's not MAGA and he's worse than Ted Cruz.
DeSantis will be the opposite of Trump with foreign policy. DeSantis will keep the military industrial complex going with another endless set of wars.
DeSantis will keep factories and jobs overseas while emboldening the likes of China. DeSantis will kill MAGA just like how they killed the tea party.
Domestic policy? Dunno... Seems like he's taking notes from Kristi Noem. He hasn't said shit about Bill Gates like Kristi has and I haven't heard about DeSantis asking Bill Gates about his GMO mosquitos that got released in his State.
And neither did DeSantis during his tenure in Congress. However, we know Trump did not start any new wars under his 1st term. We cannot say the same for DeSantis especially with the neocons backing him.
Well we don't have a dictatorship so he can't just end mail in voting or make voter ID the norm. Unfortunately the powers that be have no interest in either of those things.
Really? Desantis is doing something to actually investigate all of the “vaccine” injuries and deaths. Trump brags about Operation Warp Speed causing the fast roll out of the death jabs.
Trump surrounded himself with the worst people possible and it helped cause his inability to accomplish much lasting change.
He needs to explain how he is going to do things different and admit his past mistakes before I’m 100% behind him if RD runs.
WTF is Trump supposed to do? He is just a private citizen
Say he was wrong for trusting Pfizer and Moderna and I’m telling people that the vaccines are safe and effective
for all he knew back then, Warp Speed saved millions of lives
He was wrong. He’s human and entitled to be wrong. But he said that they were safe and effective and great achievement of his presidency. He needs to admit he was wrong. Like he needs to do it yesterday.
the truth of the vax is only starting to come out two years after he left office
Were you here in 2019 and 2020? Many people had their bullshit alarms blazing.
commie shill
Go fuck yourself for this. I have been a Trump supporter since 2016 T_D Reddit days.
His opinions as a private citizen will accomplish nothing but embroil him in another fight he does not need to waste energy on
He's holding rallies taking many positions as a private citizen. Do you think perhaps it would be worth taking a position (correcting his prior wrong opinion) on a matter that could actually save lives? Don't you think that saving lives is more important than, say, attacking electric vehicles in a state that is heavily invested in electric vehicle production (South Carolina)?
then stop spreading the commie propaganda meant to undermine Trump
So it is commie propaganda to point out that the vaccines are neither safe or effective? What the fuck, the commies are the ones who have and are still pushing the clot shot. Trump touted them as an accomplishment of his presidency. He needs to admit he was wrong, plain and simple. Mark my words, if he does not do it now, by the time the real primary campaigns and debates start and even the normies realize that the jabs are killing people, one of his Republican opponents is going to crucify him on it.
Trump DeSantis 2024 solves this! DeSantis doesn't have to resign until 2025 thus he only loses one year. Plus DeSantis is the most based governor there is, and we need based MAGA around Trump! We don't need 4 more years of wishy washy MAGA people and RINOs! That was the problem for his first term!
Great way to articulate it. That's how I feel too.
Trump has insights as well that DeSantis wouldn't have, yet.
Get Trump back in there and keep DeSantis in Fl. He needs to develop a succession plan for if he does obtain presidency after Trump. Wouldn't look good if the person that gets your state let's it go to shit after you "move up"
All they have to do is make sure the primary gets nasty, make sure somebody polarizing like the desantis is in the primaries, and then it really doesn't matter which one of them wins the primary; the core base for the opposing candidate will vote against them on election day just out of spite.
Perfect recipe.
It doesn't take very many of those types of votes at all before it's over with before it even began.... And that's before we even mention the fraud.......
what needs to happen is DeSantis running until just before the final primaries that will decide the nomination then dropping out and throwing his support behind Trump
that gets both sides together
the one who does not win the primaries cannot run unless it is an an independent
If it turns into a bitter battle then you can guarantee that neither of them will ever see the White House...... Let's pray by some miracle that something similar to your plan happens......
That wouldn't be good enough for the wedge drivers, they'd just ask again next week and claim that an anonymous informant familiar with the situation says he's thinking about changing his mind.
It's divide the right. And Trump falls for it. Maybe he's complicit. Remember Lock Her Up? They are playing the same game on us again because it works.
The way Trump shit on DeSantis while DeSantis was doing a great job made Trump look petty and insecure. He did the same thing to Elon musk. I'm not an Elon musk fan Boi, but neither of these people deserved to be treated the way Trump treated them. Right now those two are some of the best we have as far as protecting our freedoms.
Trump was the one who was wronged. It is his fight and i wouldn't want anybody else fighting my battles for me, so I'd imagine he feels the same. He's the only person who is angry enough after being wrongfully raided and cheated out of an election to drain the swamp.
I wouldn't trust Desantis to follow through on actually locking these traitors to our country up. But I think Trump is finally ready to make that happen.
Yet, the campaign slogans in 2016 were "lock her up" "drain the swamp". I'm not saying Trump didn't do many great things, he did, but he never even remotely came close to eliminating the rot in DC. In fact, he hired more.
"OH, but he means it now" isn't a good look or argument and everything he has done since being cheated out of the presidency is get more in bed with the eGOP.
Trump's track record is to surround himself with globalist RINOs and traitors and think he can play ball. Then he is shocked when everyone is actually working behind his back and he gets ousted. How do you think it will finally happen with Trump in charge?
Remember that DeSantis cleaned up Boward County elections, took away Disney's special district, ousted a radical D.A., and it's currently bringing the vaccine manufacturers to trial to see if they committed fraud.
I like both of these men. But no matter how much I like Trump personally, I don't see him as someone that can ever get the corruption out of Washington.
Ah yes the guy who McConnel is backing will get the corruotion out of washington! What are you smoking? Your examples from DeSantis are no different from what Trump himself did as president in similar cases. Trump was slow walked by the establishment. If he got rid of them and went scorched earth before the public knew how corrupt they were, he would have likely been removed from office and had zero chance of re-election ever. MAGA would be dead.
Remember that DeSantis cleaned up Boward County elections, took away Disney's special district, ousted a radical D.A., and it's currently bringing the vaccine manufacturers to trial to see if they committed fraud.
Trump made this happen by sending his lawyers to FL to keep the dems from stealing the election from Desantis. Which they were already close to doing.
Desantis then finished what had already been lined out for him by Trump's team.
I want Trump to come back to DC, because he will be not just a bull in a china shop, he will be a raging one, he won't just drain the swamp, he will set fire and grim stone to this city, and I can't wait for it to happen.
and after 4 years where he went day after day of chopping heads and burning bodies, DC will finally be clean, we can send DeSantis to run the country for 8 years.
Yeah. It gets me downvoted to oblivion here (which, I get it, this is The_Donald), but I do prefer DeSantis to Trump.
He's standing up against the grievance culture and performing very well. He got the majority of votes for latinos (or close to is) his last election. That's unheard of. And he did it all by buying anti-communist and pro-capitalism.
For DeSantis, his iron has never been hotter. He really has to run, as you can't wait another 4 years to run, he'll be forgotten by then possibly.
Am I an idiot for having thought the most logical move would’ve been Trump/DeSantis ‘24…that has always seemed the obvious choice since post 2020 but now for some reason they’ve become astro turfed enemies and i don’t get it.
If DeSantis gets greedy and fucks Trump over like Obama did with Hillary, it will fuck up the timeline for possible longer control of the Executive branch. Of course, that’s assuming elections actually mean something, at which point he can just do whatever the fuck he wants, because it won’t matter anyway.
I'm waiting to see how Trump will deal with fraud in 2024, since we were robbed in 2020 and 2022. I've yet to hear a convincing response about how 2024 will be different.
Floridians are still waiting on Constitutional Carry, one without a permit, and DeSantis is still green enough to need that done first.
Trump has these years to use as a fulcrum for '24, in comparison to his years before WuFlu invaded, on top of people being aware of the differences now.
If DeSantis can fix Florida in time, and he's not in league with the Uniparty, then he might get my vote in '28. Until those are settled, it'll be Trump.
If voting mattered, I would agree. Plus it would still leave DeSantis for ‘28. However, in this timeline we call reality, it won’t matter who runs unless we can restore election integrity.
If Trump win the nomination I've got his back, just like I did in 2016 and 2020. But I have to be honest. I don't think the man has the right mindset to carry this movement forward.
Donald Trump fashions himself a Julius Caesar type. Like Julius, Trump seems to think if he can just break through to the people, he can right the ship. Like Julius, he's constantly being stabbed in the back by people who profit from the list.
We don't need Julius. We need Augustus, who came into power knowing what had happened to his predecessor and that polity had no answer for it.
I support President Trump but neither of them will be allowed to win. Every citizen in the country could vote for Trump and they would still print enough fake ballots for him to lose and as obvious as the results would be, no one would have standing to contest it.
Trump DeSantis 2024 solves this! DeSantis doesn't have to resign until 2025 thus he only loses one year. Plus DeSantis is the most based governor there is, and we need based MAGA around Trump! We don't need 4 more years of wishy washy MAGA people and RINOs! That was the problem for his first term!
I will vote for Donald John Trump for President in 2024. The only way I'll vote for anyone else is if DJT agrees that he lost by legal means in the primary. If I suspect ANY FUCKERY from the Republicans this time around AGAIN, I'll stay home on election day. Fuck all you eGOP globalist UNIPARTY bastards!
So we're just going to pretend like 2024 is suddenly going to be a free of massive fraud? Cool. Guess that's why we're talking about a match up that is based only on speculation.
Last I cared to hear is DeSantis said he isn't interested in running in 2024. If I were him I wouldn't come out every other day to put stupid rumors to bed either.
This "but its Trumps turn" bullshit is just as annoying as it was when the left was saying it about Hillary.
Lastly, why the hell are people so scared about Trump having competition? If I were DeSantis I would run simply out of spite and contempt for the assholes pretending to be constitutional conservatives.
This is the overwhelming majority of my friends. Trump is not underestimating his 2024 support. DeSantis is miscalculating MAGA support for his successful governorship to be 2024 support for the Presidency.
Charlie Kirk: "I gave President Trump my word, that I will support him if he runs in 2024. I am going to keep my word. Look, I think DeSantis could be a good President. But I know Trump was a great President." (Emphasis Charlie Kirk's, not mine.)
My personal theory is that DeSantis is being pushed into this to be the GOPe’s “acceptable” candidate. I don’t know why he’s going along with it and I don’t care. If he puts himself against Trump, we’re going to lose both of them.
DeSantis won't make it past the primaries
I'm willing to hear both Trump and Ron's cases for why they deserve my vote.
Trump needs to answer some key questions of why he is pushing the vaxx even after the new information is coming out about it, and why he is backing Lindsey Graham.
But my take is I like both and want one unified ticket of both.
this is the undermining bullshit I am talking about
Trump has an endless list of amazing things he did for this country yet infiltrators among us have focused people on this one issue
Warp Speed was also a great accomplishment considering what the was being told and what we knew then
People were dying and he got something out to help them
He is not "pushing the vax," he is pointing out his accomplishment
Stop letting the commies influence you
DeSantis has balls but he has not had to fight against an immense power structure like Trump
Warpspeed was not a great accomplishment. That's a ridiculous statement.
yeah it was in terms of what we knew then
I knew the vax was bad from the start..never got a jab. Knew the whole thing was a scamdemic. So the excuse is that trump listened to fauci?
Conservatives like to nit-pick other conservatives to death focusing on flaws instead of attributes and bigger picture.
We’re going to have to swarm the deep state gates in ‘24… they won’t let Trump win no matter what, but exposing them has always been one of Trump’s greatest strengths. Even if further exposing the fraud is all this run accomplishes, we must put the full force of MAGA behind him and swarm the gates from every possible angle to whatever extent we can.
this isn't one issue. it is a pattern of not being able to learn from mistakes. It is a glaring issue evidenced by the vaccine, as well as his endorsements, personel choices
Speaking of personel choices he keeps MAGA people like DeSantis, and Flynn at bay, while surrounding himself with RINOs like McCarthy and Lady G!
We have the greatest yes men, don't we folks?
the guy went in with 0 political experience and stood up against a massive machine arrayed against him- and won
again, he made YUGE achievements in terms of the economy
and he has left the MSM in ruins, social media is backing down from censorship, woke culture is dying, the GOPe is failing, he has eliminated many RINOs, Biden is heading for impeachment and worse and the dems are eating each other alive in their mad scramble to save their sinking ship
"But muh vax!"
He can't do anything about it, the problem is being handled, people are waking up
Now y'all either need to dump this dem inspired divisiveness and get behind Trump or get the fuck off the Trump Train
Lol "The problem is being handled" let me guess, 2 more weeks, Trump is playing 69d chess, trust the plan you shill :p
Yes, agreed. We need strong MAGA people around Trump, DeSantis, Flynn, etc. We don't need 4 more years of Milleys, Austins, Kushners, Pences, etc!
Nah, fuck the Vaxxx bullshit, questions and all....
All of that shit hs gone on for such a long time, that all we will get from it is just BS, and t doesn't matter who we ask....
What we need is to push trump into the Presidency, and THEN send him letters demanding things we ALL agree upon.....
Massive Deportations, better Wall, like one that isn't easily cut through with a torch, like put a Pipe inside the beams, and Rods inside the pipes, maybe soe steel balls, aim the entire DOJ at the CIA and FBI, and the DemonRats in Congress, and the RINOs too.....
Trump will have massive POWER, but only IF he chooses to use it....
If he sets it aside, he is wasting it....
You mean how once he got in last time he surrounded himself with RINOs and didn't listen to us at all?
Yeah, but I believe he has gotten the message from the Leftists that it's War, and not some simple wrestling match he is facing....
If he hasn't gotten that message, then we really need a much stronger better candidate, and I'm not rich enough to run for President....
I am not sure he has. He has Lady G opening for him in South Carolina and he endorsed McCunty...
RE clotshot support: Because Trump already has our votes but he needs more normie votes.
That will get him less normie votes the more they wake up. The media is already pivoting to call it the "Trump vaccine" which Trump seems to be doing half their work for them :p
Which is why he won't run. Florida has a resign to run law, so he'd be throwing away his office for nothing. Waiting would serve him far better.
Nope. GEOTUS will win. Ronald's political career will be over.
Solution:
Trump DeSantis 2024!
I agree with your point, DeSantis is being influenced by big money donors who have poured millions into his campaign and now there is a whole army of handlers in his camp. The Citadel CEO, Griffin has moved from Chicago to Miami and they are propping him up for a 2024 Run, a youth movement with DeSantis vs. Newsome. DeSantis wife is ambitious and she has ties to BlackRock and she badly wants to be First Lady.
When Trump makes his DeSanctimonious statements he knows DeSantis is making moves to ready himself to announce a 2024 run. The Deep State and the UniParty will embrace DeSantis and paint Trump in a negative light and many Democrats will say good things about DeSantis so they can split the vote and create friction in the Republican Party.
The only person that can save this country from tyranny and communism is Trump and if DeSantis would agree to be his running mate or Secretary of State we might be able to have a 12 year run of patriots running this country and have a chance at saving this Republic but I expect DeSantis to turn on Trump soon.
Nobody wants to see Trump tearing down DeSantis but DeSantis is influenced by all the money and attention he is receiving now and the Deep State and UniParty would allow him to win as long as Trump doesn't win.
The UniParty and the swamp only fear one man, Trump and everyone else can be controlled.
DeSantis' wife "has ties to black rock"?
Can you support that claim
I bet her "ties" are not to happy with her husband right now :p
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/blackrock-caves-desantis-over-esg
I do agree, however with your solution:
TRUMP DESANTIS 2024!
I;ll check pede, if I recall correctly it was a BlackRock affiliated hedge fund or firm.
Until recently the vast majority of large and medium size hedge funds were either black rock or vangaurd (owns black rock) owned or at least "affiliated" because its basically a cartel of financial services. As far as I am concerned personally, I judge a tree by its fruits, as Jesus said. Not by guilt by associations. If that was true no one would be supporting Trump because look at all the RINOs he put in!
thanks pede
I think DeSantis has a better record of opposing liberalism than trump did
trump focused on foreign affairs but neglected domestic issues such as antifa blm critical race theory and LGBT grooming
DeSantis has been strong on those
That said let's not divide the movement
I will support WHOEVER runs under the Republican ticket in the general
If that's trump I'll vote for him
I only ask that If by some happenstance DeSantis finds his way into the ticket instead of Trump (maybe Dems finally manufacture fake charges against Trump and take him as a political prisoner) that all Republicans do the same for DeSantis and support him if he is the party candidate
Either would be amazing. And any would be better than 46
But let's not get into squabbles when only one of them will be on the ticket in the end anyway..
Both are good. Vote for either
My preference would be a Trump/Desantis ticket. Unfortunately the establishment Repubs will convince him that he's the best candidate because they hate Trump and never wanted him on the ticket in 2016. Desantis is no fool but big money donors and his own ego I suspect will sway him to the dark side. He seems principled when it suits him. I'd rather see him as VP first to make sure his allegiances are really where we think they are. When you consider that 30-pence Mike was originally considered a loyal conservative. Thank God we got to see him in action as VP before we had a chance to elect him as POTUS. Desantis needs to get more foreign affairs experience. Running a state and running a country are two entirely different things. That said, I'd still vote for him if I had no alternative, but Trump is my first choice since he's already proven he can MAGA.
that wouldn't be my preference, whoever ends up on Trumps team will lend up damaged goods. if it is going to be Trump (which i am not opposed to), it should be Trump and someone else, the Desantes is 2028
The UniParty want DeSantis and it will be a full MSM blitz of favorable coverage of DeSantis and he will be portrayed as a uniter, someone that both sides like agree with and he will be the Chosen One. Trump is the only one the UniParty and the swamp fear.
So Trump prefers foriegn affairs and DeSantis prefers to work on domestic affairs... If only there was some way they could work togeather, like on a team... where they could both compliment each others strengths...
I agree. DeSantis is doing a very good job. Trump was soft on a lot of things and has a very long record of backing or surrounding himself with the wrong people. Lately all Trump has done is tweet stupid things that make him look petty and egotistical. He did great while he was president, but I don't think he is the same man anymore. The biggest problem with DeSantis running for president is that Florida will probably suffer if he wins.
And so will we. DeSantis is the RINO/Uniparty candidate. Backed by Romney, Ryan, JEB!, and now, Sununu. DeSantis is owned, lock, stock and barrel by Ken Griffin who owns Citadel hedge fund.
DeSantis doesn't have f*&^ you money like Trump, who isn't beholden to anyone. I won't vote for DeSantis because he's a fraud and isn't MAGA.
This. At the end of the day no matter how you cut it, Desantis is answering to somebody else. Trump is not.
Not to mention that trump is right; it would be incredibly disloyal of Ron to go against Trump when he would be nothing without Trump. You think I want a backstabbed like that in my corner? Fuck that shit.
PREACH
Yes the MAGA people of FL.
DeSantis is a MAGA copy cat. Not saying he doesn't understand it.
But Trump lit the movement on fire. DeSantis seems to have assessed, analysed and replicated it.
To have a MAGA become bought and turn would be the death of current America.
I'm sure people with many more assets than me are aware of this as well
DeSantis’ first campaign ad was something about his kid building the wall with legos. Why settle for a copycat Trump when we can have the real thing?
We want the MAGA movement replicated, world wide!
Sadly, I think this is it. In order to "move up the totem pole". While Hes taken money from the "Uniparty" folks. I still think hes closer to us than them. At least he's not Ted Cruz
It's not just taking the money. DeSantis is close friends with Ben Sasse AND Paul Ryan. Which should tell people everything they need to know about who DeSantis really is.
Not only that, DeSantis is on record making fun of Trump and MAGA. He's not one of us, he's not MAGA and he's worse than Ted Cruz.
He's on record? Do you have any proof of that? Other than internet anons and "reliable sources" :p
Yet so many people on this site have forgotten about how many times Lyin' Ted has lied!
DeSantis will be the opposite of Trump with foreign policy. DeSantis will keep the military industrial complex going with another endless set of wars.
DeSantis will keep factories and jobs overseas while emboldening the likes of China. DeSantis will kill MAGA just like how they killed the tea party.
Domestic policy? Dunno... Seems like he's taking notes from Kristi Noem. He hasn't said shit about Bill Gates like Kristi has and I haven't heard about DeSantis asking Bill Gates about his GMO mosquitos that got released in his State.
Trump didn’t exactly call to slash the military’s budget.
And neither did DeSantis during his tenure in Congress. However, we know Trump did not start any new wars under his 1st term. We cannot say the same for DeSantis especially with the neocons backing him.
Do you have any evidence to support that? Or is it just internet gossip from anons and "Reliable Sources" :p
Oxitec - Funded by Bill Gates
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-awards-4.1-million-for-mosquito-engineering
Oxitec wraps up their GMO mosquitos release in the Florida Keys:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article256066552.html
Immunization through mosquitos; collaborators? Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01994525
https://greatgameindia.com/flying-syringes-bill-gates-mosquitoes-vaccines/
Proof or talking out of your ass?
Oxitec - Funded by Bill Gates
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-awards-4.1-million-for-mosquito-engineering
Oxitec wraps up their GMO mosquitos release in the Florida Keys:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article256066552.html
Immunization through mosquitos; collaborators? Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01994525
https://greatgameindia.com/flying-syringes-bill-gates-mosquitoes-vaccines/
Lol if he is RINO he is the shittiest RINO in history :p Trust the plan you shill :p
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/09/ron-desantis-the-making-and-remaking-of-a-maga-heir
Yale, Harvard and the Navy. Lol! Ron is the ultimate RINO.
Are we using VF as a source? Get out of here. Be it Trump or Desantis they have my vote. Anyone else no thanks
Yea just look at how he fucked up Florida :p
You realize even if he wins, he won't have to resign until 2025. His term is up in 2026...
If Desantis runs he's a traitorous faggot who should be shot in the head. Period.
Not at all
That man is beloved by his base, flaws and all.
I am assuming the "man" you are referring to is President Trump!
Trump has a fantastic record to run on
Best timeline: Trump 2024 then eight years of DeSantis
the swamp would be sterilized by then
How’s that record when it comes to fighting election fraud?
What's your record fighting those who are doin it?
I’m not running for president. Anyone who does needs a plan that isn’t “vote harder this time”
Well we don't have a dictatorship so he can't just end mail in voting or make voter ID the norm. Unfortunately the powers that be have no interest in either of those things.
You faggots have no real comeback when you make comments like this. What is your record? You also have none.
You sound like sissy bitch tits. I didn't say I have a record or imply it. The ballot box isnt where things will change
Really? Desantis is doing something to actually investigate all of the “vaccine” injuries and deaths. Trump brags about Operation Warp Speed causing the fast roll out of the death jabs.
Trump surrounded himself with the worst people possible and it helped cause his inability to accomplish much lasting change.
He needs to explain how he is going to do things different and admit his past mistakes before I’m 100% behind him if RD runs.
WTF is Trump supposed to do? He is just a private citizen
give me a verifiable direct cite where he said that or delete this comment
for all he knew back then, Warp Speed saved millions of lives
he NEVER bragged about it killing people
the truth of the vax is only starting to come out two years after he left office
commie shill
Say he was wrong for trusting Pfizer and Moderna and I’m telling people that the vaccines are safe and effective
He was wrong. He’s human and entitled to be wrong. But he said that they were safe and effective and great achievement of his presidency. He needs to admit he was wrong. Like he needs to do it yesterday.
Were you here in 2019 and 2020? Many people had their bullshit alarms blazing.
Go fuck yourself for this. I have been a Trump supporter since 2016 T_D Reddit days.
His opinions as a private citizen will accomplish nothing but embroil him in another fight he does not need to waste energy on
the government and Big Pharma are not going to stop killing people and people are not going to stop killing themselves just because he says
they have chosen their sides, it is a non issue
bullshit alarms mean nothing without proof
we have that now
then stop spreading the commie propaganda meant to undermine Trump
He's holding rallies taking many positions as a private citizen. Do you think perhaps it would be worth taking a position (correcting his prior wrong opinion) on a matter that could actually save lives? Don't you think that saving lives is more important than, say, attacking electric vehicles in a state that is heavily invested in electric vehicle production (South Carolina)?
So it is commie propaganda to point out that the vaccines are neither safe or effective? What the fuck, the commies are the ones who have and are still pushing the clot shot. Trump touted them as an accomplishment of his presidency. He needs to admit he was wrong, plain and simple. Mark my words, if he does not do it now, by the time the real primary campaigns and debates start and even the normies realize that the jabs are killing people, one of his Republican opponents is going to crucify him on it.
no the commie propaganda is ignoring the Brazilian things he has done for this country and attacking him with the same thing the libs are saying
it's a distraction and there is nothing he can do about it
if he does bring it up, they will attack him with there being no hard medical evidence that the vax is deadly
"WTF is Trump supposed to do"!?
NOT RECOMMEND EVERYBODY TAKE THE POISON EVERY FUCKING CHANCE HE GETS!!!!
why should he spend energy on that when it is not even a campaign issue?
people care about more important things like the economy and the alien invasion
he does not need to waste time placating a small section of his base
why should be buy into the liberal narrative which is the exact same thing as you are saying?
that's going to confirm what they are saying
purebloods and mudbloods have made up their mind and those in the middle are learning the truth
get the fuck over it and join us or get off the train
He is spending the energy on the issue. By constantly recommending it. Your attempt to gaslight for big pharma failed :p
Solution to the problem, Trump DeSantis 2024!
if they run together, FL loses its electoral votes
Nope.
Trump DeSantis 2024 solves this! DeSantis doesn't have to resign until 2025 thus he only loses one year. Plus DeSantis is the most based governor there is, and we need based MAGA around Trump! We don't need 4 more years of wishy washy MAGA people and RINOs! That was the problem for his first term!
Great way to articulate it. That's how I feel too.
Trump has insights as well that DeSantis wouldn't have, yet.
Get Trump back in there and keep DeSantis in Fl. He needs to develop a succession plan for if he does obtain presidency after Trump. Wouldn't look good if the person that gets your state let's it go to shit after you "move up"
They are worried about our bench so they are trying to splinter the base, but it's too late for them.
We are heading towards a right wing era and we must keep fighting to make sure that happens.
And it will be successful.......
All they have to do is make sure the primary gets nasty, make sure somebody polarizing like the desantis is in the primaries, and then it really doesn't matter which one of them wins the primary; the core base for the opposing candidate will vote against them on election day just out of spite.
Perfect recipe.
It doesn't take very many of those types of votes at all before it's over with before it even began.... And that's before we even mention the fraud.......
what needs to happen is DeSantis running until just before the final primaries that will decide the nomination then dropping out and throwing his support behind Trump
that gets both sides together
the one who does not win the primaries cannot run unless it is an an independent
If it turns into a bitter battle then you can guarantee that neither of them will ever see the White House...... Let's pray by some miracle that something similar to your plan happens......
Ya those two would destroy each other and it’s totally unnecessary. I pray they’ve already worked out a deal.
Trump DeSantis 2024!
They really want to make you feel like that. It makes you passive.
Seems like someone is trying to drive a wedge of "pick one or the other, when only one is even running."
This. Has Ron even said anything about 24 or is everyone just farting out of their faces?
He could always confirm that he's not running.
Trump could also confirm that the Vax us killing people. Which is the worst of the omissions?
That wouldn't be good enough for the wedge drivers, they'd just ask again next week and claim that an anonymous informant familiar with the situation says he's thinking about changing his mind.
the anti-RDS people on this website are 100% bonkers.
C'mon bro, some internet anon said his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former room mate said that DeSantis is a super secret RINO :p
It's divide the right. And Trump falls for it. Maybe he's complicit. Remember Lock Her Up? They are playing the same game on us again because it works.
The way Trump shit on DeSantis while DeSantis was doing a great job made Trump look petty and insecure. He did the same thing to Elon musk. I'm not an Elon musk fan Boi, but neither of these people deserved to be treated the way Trump treated them. Right now those two are some of the best we have as far as protecting our freedoms.
DeSantis looks like he is preparing a run
https://patriots.win/p/16a9qMk5A4/
That’s right, we’re trusting anon sources from WaPo now
"Someone who is familiar with how DeSantis thisks told me"
According to my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate, he's going to run.
"Organic support" for DeSantis campaign from his own Campaign Manager isn't all that "anon!"
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1618294723877441538?s=20&t=-5BI-XQ9otFZl16SH0dAaw
She’s saying these people are not campaign staff? How does any of this say he’s running against Trump?
Some internet anon said his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former room mate said that DeSantis is a super secret RINO :p
I've been saying the exact same thing for months.
Trump was the one who was wronged. It is his fight and i wouldn't want anybody else fighting my battles for me, so I'd imagine he feels the same. He's the only person who is angry enough after being wrongfully raided and cheated out of an election to drain the swamp.
I wouldn't trust Desantis to follow through on actually locking these traitors to our country up. But I think Trump is finally ready to make that happen.
the move how is for RINOs and undercover libs to disparage Trump over his statements on the vax
He did amazing things for this country and they are trying to distract from that because Biden is pushing a deadly poison
"I am not voting for Trump because he won't come out against the vax" is commie disparagement meant to divide and undermine us
Lol fuck you, you big pharma shill :p
Biden appreciates the votes, libtard
Lol fuck you, you big pharma shill :p
Yet, the campaign slogans in 2016 were "lock her up" "drain the swamp". I'm not saying Trump didn't do many great things, he did, but he never even remotely came close to eliminating the rot in DC. In fact, he hired more.
"OH, but he means it now" isn't a good look or argument and everything he has done since being cheated out of the presidency is get more in bed with the eGOP.
I would like to see desantis as AG
Trump's track record is to surround himself with globalist RINOs and traitors and think he can play ball. Then he is shocked when everyone is actually working behind his back and he gets ousted. How do you think it will finally happen with Trump in charge?
Remember that DeSantis cleaned up Boward County elections, took away Disney's special district, ousted a radical D.A., and it's currently bringing the vaccine manufacturers to trial to see if they committed fraud.
I like both of these men. But no matter how much I like Trump personally, I don't see him as someone that can ever get the corruption out of Washington.
Ah yes the guy who McConnel is backing will get the corruotion out of washington! What are you smoking? Your examples from DeSantis are no different from what Trump himself did as president in similar cases. Trump was slow walked by the establishment. If he got rid of them and went scorched earth before the public knew how corrupt they were, he would have likely been removed from office and had zero chance of re-election ever. MAGA would be dead.
Lol more Qtard 69d chess BULLSHIT :p
Trump made this happen by sending his lawyers to FL to keep the dems from stealing the election from Desantis. Which they were already close to doing.
Desantis then finished what had already been lined out for him by Trump's team.
DeSantis did this:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/26/governor-ron-desantis-signs-bill-creating-election-integrity-police-unit/
Always the fucking handshakes!
I disagree. Mostly the handshakes attack Trump instead of defend him.
Have you become confuzzled and forgotten where you are? The Donald?
Take your desantis shill bullshit somewhere else. Oh wait.. no ones there so you have to come here.
Lol troll :p
My answer would be pretty simple: I'm on the Trump Train. If he runs, I'm voting for him. If he doesn't run, I'm voting for whoever he recommends.
Trump is owed a second term. That's my position
Solution:
Trump DeSantis 2024!
I want Trump to come back to DC, because he will be not just a bull in a china shop, he will be a raging one, he won't just drain the swamp, he will set fire and grim stone to this city, and I can't wait for it to happen. and after 4 years where he went day after day of chopping heads and burning bodies, DC will finally be clean, we can send DeSantis to run the country for 8 years.
I want him to go scorched f****** Earth
I want Nuremberg style trials
Bring out the guillotines and let heads roll no prisoners at all no room for traitors!!!!
FACE THE WALL! YOU COMMIE FUCKS!!
I feel like he will be more like a neutered bull. He doesn't seem to have the fire he had in 2016. This is something I hope I am wrong about.
Yeah. It gets me downvoted to oblivion here (which, I get it, this is The_Donald), but I do prefer DeSantis to Trump.
He's standing up against the grievance culture and performing very well. He got the majority of votes for latinos (or close to is) his last election. That's unheard of. And he did it all by buying anti-communist and pro-capitalism.
For DeSantis, his iron has never been hotter. He really has to run, as you can't wait another 4 years to run, he'll be forgotten by then possibly.
I get where you are coming from, but I really don't think DeSantis can play in the national level yet, the mud in DC is too thick for him.
he will also be a bull in a Ukraine shop
This
My question is why is this even hard?
last two elections?
He's probably including the midterms.
AFAIK they stole one election and that is not over yet
I'm w/ this guy
I whole heartedly agree with this. I do like DeSantis, but Trump for 2024. Nobody else
Solution:
Trump DeSantis 2024!
DeSantis is in his what, early 40s? He could run Florida for another 20 years before running for President.
You realize as governor he is limited to 2 terms.
Am I an idiot for having thought the most logical move would’ve been Trump/DeSantis ‘24…that has always seemed the obvious choice since post 2020 but now for some reason they’ve become astro turfed enemies and i don’t get it.
VP is useless. Desantis would be an excellent AG though
Who would you like for VP?
Idk but desantis as AG would much more fitting for him
Endorsed Kevin and Ronna. No longer aligned with the base.
If DeSantis gets greedy and fucks Trump over like Obama did with Hillary, it will fuck up the timeline for possible longer control of the Executive branch. Of course, that’s assuming elections actually mean something, at which point he can just do whatever the fuck he wants, because it won’t matter anyway.
Let them battle it out in the primaries, and may the best Man win.
I'm waiting to see how Trump will deal with fraud in 2024, since we were robbed in 2020 and 2022. I've yet to hear a convincing response about how 2024 will be different.
Floridians are still waiting on Constitutional Carry, one without a permit, and DeSantis is still green enough to need that done first.
Trump has these years to use as a fulcrum for '24, in comparison to his years before WuFlu invaded, on top of people being aware of the differences now.
If DeSantis can fix Florida in time, and he's not in league with the Uniparty, then he might get my vote in '28. Until those are settled, it'll be Trump.
Agree with Rogan 1000%
If voting mattered, I would agree. Plus it would still leave DeSantis for ‘28. However, in this timeline we call reality, it won’t matter who runs unless we can restore election integrity.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd love to see desantis in 2028
They are both great, no need for division
Trump DeSantis 2024!
DITTO
If Trump win the nomination I've got his back, just like I did in 2016 and 2020. But I have to be honest. I don't think the man has the right mindset to carry this movement forward.
Donald Trump fashions himself a Julius Caesar type. Like Julius, Trump seems to think if he can just break through to the people, he can right the ship. Like Julius, he's constantly being stabbed in the back by people who profit from the list.
We don't need Julius. We need Augustus, who came into power knowing what had happened to his predecessor and that polity had no answer for it.
I support President Trump but neither of them will be allowed to win. Every citizen in the country could vote for Trump and they would still print enough fake ballots for him to lose and as obvious as the results would be, no one would have standing to contest it.
Trump DeSantis 2024 solves this! DeSantis doesn't have to resign until 2025 thus he only loses one year. Plus DeSantis is the most based governor there is, and we need based MAGA around Trump! We don't need 4 more years of wishy washy MAGA people and RINOs! That was the problem for his first term!
Just hold out Ron, keep racking up those wins. Don't do anything stupid and wait your turn.
Solution:
Trump DeSantis 2024!
Win win if you ask anyone, but trump first
Look into who funds DeSantis. It ain't our allies people, I'll tell ya that.
I will vote for Donald John Trump for President in 2024. The only way I'll vote for anyone else is if DJT agrees that he lost by legal means in the primary. If I suspect ANY FUCKERY from the Republicans this time around AGAIN, I'll stay home on election day. Fuck all you eGOP globalist UNIPARTY bastards!
So we're just going to pretend like 2024 is suddenly going to be a free of massive fraud? Cool. Guess that's why we're talking about a match up that is based only on speculation.
Last I cared to hear is DeSantis said he isn't interested in running in 2024. If I were him I wouldn't come out every other day to put stupid rumors to bed either.
This "but its Trumps turn" bullshit is just as annoying as it was when the left was saying it about Hillary.
Lastly, why the hell are people so scared about Trump having competition? If I were DeSantis I would run simply out of spite and contempt for the assholes pretending to be constitutional conservatives.
No one is asking this ginger about anything. Who the fuck is this mooch? Seems like he's trying to worm his way into big con
But he won’t be robbed in 2024? What changed?
My thoughts exactly