2340 “JUST IN: EU approves ban of fossil fuel cars by 2035” (media.patriots.win) posted 105 days ago by Vsid 105 days ago by Vsid +2342 / -2 310 comments download share 310 comments share download save hide report block hide replies
They'll be getting around by camel by then anyway.
Arabs will still be allowed to use oil because dey culcha
Big ol truck that runs on crude. Rollin coals all Ramadan long
Actually, IJN had to use unrefined crude, I think from Indonesia, during WW2 because the refinery was down. Crude oil often has a low flash point, so can be dangerous to run instead of bunker fuel which typically has a flash point of 140 deg F or higher. They had a number of fires because of it.
Be cool if trucks could run on it, but probably not. Though who knows, adds some cutter and you may be good to go.
RAPES FOR OIL!!!🔜
The leftists love to set bans of xyz by xyz date because they get all the libtard clout for doing nothing while knowing full well the goal can’t be met & the deadline will be extended when the time comes but by then their retarded lemming base will have forgotten & the cycle can repeat.
In this case, I'm willing to bet "fossil fuel" cars outlast the EU.
No way the EU even makes it to 2030.
Their banks are one hiccup from terminal point, and they lack the flexibility of the US to bail them out.
Decentralized international fiat currency is a fucking retarded concept. It can make some sense for some small countries to use a foreign fiat currency (Panama and the US dollar for instance) but the concept of the euro, central african franc or western african franc are retarded
I wasn't discussing the Euro, so much as the EU, but that's a dead man walking too.
But it is centralized, not decentralized as you may have misstated.
Also, in light of history, isn't it just about time for Germany to attack France again?
Cycles are cycles...
Do you mean is it time for the Brits to ensure that the German industrial machine gets bombed back to the stone ages again?
Nordstream pipeline was yet another blow struck against them. The last thing the Anglo-American oligarchs can allow is for Russia and Germany to actually cooperate on anything.
I'm German/Irish, so may be a bit biased.
Maybe, or you're just using common sense. Concerning my Dutch and agreeing with you. Germany/Russia would be much better for European stability and prosperity. Keeping in mind how much we Dutch profited and prospered from the trade with the Hanseatic League too. All the way from Novgorod to Amsterdam etc.
You're not the first one to mention this about the oligarchs, for I was able to speak and have been in contact with this Russian female expat from St. Petersburg sharing the same thing. And she is a professional Historian.
Points she was mentioning was of course how German had become the 2nd language in the Russian Empire, how the Czars and Royal Family and Aristocracy had a lot of German blood, including many politicians, generals and statesmen as well. Not to forget, the last Empress (Alexandra of Hessen) and the millions of German Russians having settled and living there, like the Baltic Germans and Volga Germans. Ranging in the millions.
Just redefine gasoline with real science. They love following science and oil sure as shit is not from dinosaurs. Call it what it is and the law is meaningless
If it still emits carbon, the building block of all life, it is still evil no matter where it comes from.
I second that bet.
It's amazing that people there don't realize that Hitler got what he wanted. LOL
One of the core components of that strategy is to hamper and eliminate investment. How can Ford/GM/Exxon/Shell/etc reliably invest in technology, people, and make capital outlays for long term business strategy in any sector when the government can simply eradicate their revenue or consumer sources at any moment.
That's how you collapse capitalism. You hamper savings & investment which are the CORE components of a productive economy. Then you promote Consumption and Debt the core tenets of destructive consumer health and corporate balance sheets
Governments will try to nationalize petroleum assets away from multinationals and will end up doing what Zimbabwe did to productive farming. I've dealt with people employed by state owned oil & gas. You always pray you don't get someone's son-in-law working in your corresponding position as good luck trying to get anything done.
Or some idiots son with a name like Hunter.
Because those companies are already all-in on the Leftist bs. They keep foisting the ev crap on people, regardless of whether there has been a law mandating it. These companies are paid off by the global elites, run by the global elites, and couldn't care less about the traditional tenets of Capitalism. This is a Leftist Fascism, in control of global events right now. It is succeeding with very, very little pushback, as distraction and propaganda pushed by their media propaganda arms, including controlled "opposition" like FNC, has the NPCs of the world totally subservient, and ignorant to the Truth.
Oh i totally agree - they've put their people in at the top of every major corporation. They're on the board, they run human resources, middle management, etc.
But they're all paper pushers. The people making financial decisions and doing the actual work are seldom in agreement/alliance with these folks.
If they were - the company would go under in a matter of weeks/months/years.
Leftist politicians are also heavily invested in so called green technologies. Its literal fascism.
This! I've been saying this for years!
Doing' worry - we are going to be landing many 'firsts' first fag, first trans, first women, first fist fuck in space, etc.
Weird, isn't it? NASA says they destroyed the technology to go to the moon and we just don't have the current tech to do it. But we can send satellites to jupiter. Launch a tesla into space. Hmmm
Why though, it's a sandbox.
Without a good reason it's pretty pointless.
testing technologies for colonization of mars and other planets?
If they think Brexit is bad, just wait. Their goal is to push climate BS and and the electric car agenda just like they did with COVID vaccines. They think if they can get 40 percent to voluntarily buy-in, then they can push a mandate on everyone.
How funny is that? The UK will have fossil fuel cars because of Brexit and the rest of the EU will not.
A lot of countries stay in the EU to milk the EU banks they are slaves to the subsidies of Brussels.
Lots of people throughout it are starting to wake up to it. I feel like potentially Italy will breakaway from the EU it simply doesn't have the resources or space to go completely electric. Of course the EU will offer aid for the change but this hurts small businesses and independent contractors. The aid goes straight into politician pockets while the cost of the change fall straight into the producting class pockets
Dear African Cobalt and Lithium Miners: Your 14 hour day just got extended to 16 hours. Unfortunately, you will make the same money because, you know, gotta make them shareholders happy. Thanks!
Imagine if the Ponzi Scheme stock market actually was valued at what the companies should be worth. Not bullshit 20x PE estimated earnings they may have in 10 years. Entire thing is a scam that only the rich really win at. Our 401Ks just prop it up. If everyone pulled their money and stopped putting their 401Ks into it, the entire stock market would collapse. It doesnt work unless there is constantly new money going in...a Ponzi Scheme.
A ton of people did pull their 401ks out of stocks in the last 2 years and put it all into bonds or zero risk accounts. Zero impact on the stock market.
You think the slaves in the mines get paid?
Yeah, no, those arent locals and they get pretty damn good wages.
...why the hell would they hire retarded illiterate locals to operate heavy equipment at strip mines? This is hard rock mining, not placer gold mining.
Because much of it is retarded illiterate work. They have kids and women working in those pits.
No it isnt
America is now post Presidential Elections. Hold on to your horses. We are in WW3 right now, and it does not involve conventional warfare. One thousand cuts. Commies never slept.
Some days you drive the camel. Some days the camel drives you.
Walkable cities are a scam
The medieval period begs to differ. Although the way things are going, they want us to be peasants, so makes sense
Medieval cities weren't full of apes like they are now, despite what the BBC would have you believe.
I agree that we are heading towards technofeudalism, but there are too many of us to be farmers. Either we “farm” something else or, as others have probably correctly surmised, we are the carbon to be reduced.
Work from home?
Consider what peasants ate back then... Now consider all the foods they have demonized vs the foods they encourage.
Spoiler: They want us all back on a peasant's diet
You do realize that cities were walkable for thousands of years before cars right?
Corporations ruined the cities and now they want us to pay for their mistakes.
And people lived in utter squalor. The wealthy had country estates and rarely traveled into the cities. Cities were for merchants and laborers. The car let everyone own a bit of an estate and travel long distances in speed and comfort.
In atheistic and pagan countries sure.
Wealthy buying large land has been tradition since history was being recorded. It allowed them to produce their own food, wine, and other goods. There were still poor people in the countryside but the difference is that rural homes grew their own food and cities did not. Both had their weaknesses and strength.
The car is a useful tool but it didn't change anything regarding estates. In fact people got stupid and decided to build suburbs which are the worst of both worlds. A suburb can't produce its own food and goods but it's so far away from a market that a vehicle is required.
They're nothing like an estate and become a major burden if there's a serious food or fuel shortage. Cities will suffer too but unlike suburbs they have industries and skilled workers that can trade with farmers.
To clarify, I don't think cars should be banned. I just think the cabal and corporations turned cities into a cesspool so it takes longer for a city to recover from a crisis.
My area is developing new developments a breathe taking speed. Hundreds of houses or townshomes in each new development.
Not a single development has any sort of store, restaurant, or primary school built in to it. The neighborhoods connect only to highways, with no alternative route, even by foot. Even if you wanted to bike, you'd be on a major highway as soon as you left the neighborhood. You need a car for anything and everything.
Howver, Most driveways can only fit 1-2 cars. The roads are too narrow for street parking, and the city will ticket over $100 you if you park on the street. There is no nearly public parking, meaning you can't have any visitors over though.
Modern suburbia is the worst of all worlds. They're starting to make it anti-car but everyone still requires cars.
Corps didn't ruin cities. Government zoning laws did.
The only reason you have a commute to work to begin with, is because city governments dictate that houses must be built on one side of the city and businesses on the other. It would make far more sense to have housing and business intertwined naturally wherever they are demanded by a free market of construction.
Admittedly, much of this is due to voter stupidity and selfish behavior. People in houses demand things like "keep that noisy factory away from my house" and it eventually devolves into a regulation that says "keep every business away from every house".
The government contributed to the problem but guess who lobbied for laws that would force people to commute?
Before 2020 I would have placed most of the blame on the government but after the clot shot mandates by private businesses and the enforcement of masks, it's obvious that corporations cause a lot of damage.
You do realize none of those people had refrigeration, right?
People built cities around their own desires. The Corporations didn't ruin anything, they just moved all the jobs that used to be in those cities overseas.
depends on the city
if you drive a car in LA you're a retard
travel 270 miles east and you're in vegas, where if you don't have a car, you're fucked
Try running out of gas between LA and Vegas. It was a rental vehicle and i wasn't paying close attention. I found a closed down gas station - looked straight from the Walking Dead - with a phone number scrawled on one of the pumps. A man in his late 70s early 80s with a hearing aid brought out 5 gallons for $65 on a motorcycle. Said his son goes into town once a month and they keep gas in supply at the house for idiots like me. Well he didn't call me an idiot. But given that I was 54 miles from the next town over with about 20 fluid ounces in my vehicle - he would have been right to call me one.
You're lucky he was there haha, why would you leave for that drive without a full tank? It's some of the hottest and most barren desert in the world
I was an idiot in my youth. I'm still an idiot now - but I was then, too.
Imagine not having a car in LA
Imagine being able to freely walk somewhere instead of sitting for an hour at each stop?
I can't imagine that, as I live in Southern California. Very few places are so close that you can just "freely walk somewhere."
I've lived in Los Angeles without a car for 4 years and I love it. I recognize it's not for everyone, but here's how I'm able to make it work:
Traffic is so bad here that if I needed to get a car, I'd probably move.
LA is the least walkable major city what are you taking about? The public transit is also a joke not even a way to the airport.
At least you can fucking get somewhere in LA if you walk, which was the point ,
Everyone in and around LA is telling you you're wrong, and you're standing your ground lol.
I guess I have to respect that, somewhat.
they're not in LA, that's the thing
if they were in LA they would know that you don't drive in LA because of all the fucking traffic, you could be at the same light for 30 fuckin minutes waiting to turn
Have a comment above about this, but I'm an Angeleno and agree with Bernier4Canada here -- life in LA is so much easier and less stressful if you're able to make it work without a car.
Government zoning is a scam
I mean there's a bunch of them in Europe and Japan for example, and they're great. It's just that the globalist tyrants want our cities to really be prison centers and we are no longer allowed to travel outside of them.
But they also hate nuclear. That's how you know they don't really care about a solution. They just want control.
My favorite excuse they give is that nuclear takes too long to build. Should have started building them decades ago then, ya fuckheads.
I’ve never gotten far enough into the conversation to mention that. My tinnitus is bad enough as is, I can’t be exacerbating it.
You're saying that a coal fired power plant can be "converted" to nuclear?
Endless anti-nuclear activism makes construction too long
This and decades of successful lobbying from the oil industry and green activist have made nuclear almost completely unsustainable and extremely difficult to set up unless your a billionaire ready to hand over your fortune. The amount of scare mongering that still goes on with nuclear is astounding.
And honestly the panic knows no party. It's an old fear for boomers and gen-x'ers
Foresight is a foreign concept to Government entities. They can't see past their nose.
It is expensive. Literally the single most expensive form of power
There is a ton of room for improved reactor design and then less burdensome regulations.
Less burdensome regulations also results in cheaper power of all kinds
You are mistaken. France is building even more nuclear plants. Very different within the EU.
They only hate nuclear when they're the ones producing it. When they purchase nuclear and even coal power from neighboring countries it is clean all of a sudden.
And they hate natural gas too, despite that being the most obvious form of power right now
Nuclear is literally the single most expensive form of power
Only because of political red tape and lobbying efforts. Remove that and nuclear falls to the cheapest source of power on the planet. Add in modernized reactor designs that take advantage of other nuclear materials and it gets cheaper still. The problem is that nuclear provides a cheap and efficient solution but governments can't tax you as much for cheap and easy solutions.
Bullshit, with free fuel and the government training an unlimited army of 20 year old men to go work in the private sector, without opening any new facilities, it is still one of the more expensive options
this faggot loves burning coal, he lets his daughters and wife burn the coal too
JUST IN: World approves ban of EU by 2035.
Right. Can we move that up? Show of hands?
California is exporting its stupidity to Europe
Just in: Western and Central New York secede from the rest of the state, and join Ohio (or Pennsylvania.)
Why would Western and Central New York want to become targets of future chemical attacks by the government?
Western New York is basically Buffalo and it's suburbs. It's a jogger filled leftist shithole with no redeeming factors whatsoever, they wouldn't want to secede.
President Trump took Western New York by about 45,000 votes in 2020, even including Buffalo, so you're absolutely wrong.
Oh shit, I didn't know that at all. I guess I stand corrected.
You think Cali is bad, this shit was borne in Western Europe, Cali is a good decade behind their stupidity.
Cali already banned new sales of gas cars by 2035 last year
In some ways yes, but never underestimate CA as a leader in innovation, especially when it comes to idiocy.
Or have they been importing their stupidity from Europe? 🤔
We don't have tranny story hours and tranny surgeries for kids yet
The WEF and globalism are being exported at full speed. The government wants control of your transportation by 2035.
Or is it the other way around? Probably a two way street of idiocy.
Invest in horses! To the moon!
This just in: Horses fart almost as much as cows and should be banned (except for at the posh country clubs, of course).
The EU is California. The goal isn't to do away with gas cars. The goal is to make you unable to drive a personal vehicle of any kind.
It's to make cars a luxury of the rich. The rest of the peasants will walk or use public transportation.
It even has the same unreliable/expensive electricity supply right now too, which makes this proposal 100 times worse.
All they want to do is take away our freedom to roam. Start teaching your kids what it is to be human right now.
This is the way.
Any bets the Germans that love their sports cars are going to riot?
If people were so retarded that they were to run out of fuel constantly, it would already be a problem.
This will drag on much longer than 2035 since you can still buy used cars. Lets see. Will be interesting what happens to car sales shortly before 2035.
The market for older cars without electronic crap is at an all time high. Go price something like a rust free Chevy C10 or an older F150. The M1009 went from a $2000 vehicle to now $30k+ for a nice one, because people want the diesel.
They made registration of old cars so expensive no one can afford it.
They will be in Smart Cites by then. If they riot their CBDC account will disappear.
I want to see the first electric Le Mans. There's no way they can possibly do that without changing out the battery pack, which basically means dropping in a whole new chassis.
F1 which is gaining traction is going to be pussified too. They are trying to make it going heavy electric hybrid by 2026. Nobody wants to watch a silent electric whine go cart. Nobody.
I guess you could say the EU is going, Pedal to the Metal 🙂🕶️👌😎
This is the dumbest shit
The 2035 date is completely arbitrary. There is no scientific basis for banning gas powered cars. The whole reason they’re looking at mandates in the first place is due to climate fearmongering that we have little time to act. To be honest, the US and EU don’t need to do anything, we can just force the burden of reducing/containing emissions on the global south
Well the world is already going to be destroyed in 10 years from (insert current date), so this won't even help.
Poor people should be up in arms about this. The used car market will die off. Electric car batteries hardly last 100k. New ones cost 12-15k alone.
This does nothing but hurt poor people. Where are all the SJWs to stop it? Guess they're too bust sucking on more "climate change" globohomo propaganda.
The poors should be stacked up in the 15 minute city. They don't need no cars. It the rural the pays the price. Forced into the city by lack of fuel and super expensive long range batteries.
Been wondering how they are gonna get everyone to the cities. Honestly thought they would just steal our homes out from under us somehow but I guess this works too.
I read a horror story a few months ago about a girl who turned 16 and bought her first car with savings and birthday money.
$7k used electric vehicle.
About a month later the battery died - and would have cost over $10k to replace. She was not able to replace it though - because no one even makes or stocks those batteries anymore.
They are warrantied for longer than that.
The Model 3, the most popular electric car in America has a battery warranty of 100k. Even within that 100k, the warranty states the battery capacity can drop 30% during that time.
Show me an electric car battery with over a 150k, and I'll show you a battery that needs to be replaced. Even if they lasted 200k, that is nothing. Well made combustion engine vehicles can last 400k with proper maintenance.
That geralt guy is a shill.
I've seen plenty of gas powered cars over 300k miles, including one I own, original engine with basic maintenance.
Also, the battery does not only degrade with mileage (charge cycles), it also loses capacity over time, when it's charged when it's too cold, when it's discharged when it's too cold, and many more variables, so it's even worse than you think.
Controlled obscolescence at its best
You weren't kidding. This guy is mentally deranged. It's no wonder he is in love with electric car mandates.
He is, and he is really making this place suck more over the past week. He just won't shut up now.
I have a scrapyard of old 12 valve dodges, trust me, I know.
I hate internal combustion engines in cars more due to blown trannies than the actual engines. That being said diesels also hate dynamic loading and I hate gasoline cars period because they just beat themselves to death at those RPMs. I much preferred one diesel generator under a static load hooked up to an alternator then running my equipment off the alternator.
Also changing out a battery is pretty fucking easy. Only issue is the cost. Look at the average 18 year old and tell me that you would trust them to change out the engine on your car - I haven't been able to say that for 50 years. But a battery, anyone can do that if instructed
Whoever figured out the combusion engine was a pretty sharp dude. If you remember to change the oil - it works really well - basically forever.
If you forget to change the oil - it still works really well until it doesn't.
Batteries are the nut low compared to combustion engines.
Diesel engines might get 400k (although usually less than 300k), with petrol engines it's not gonna happen in most cases.
And what is the average warranty period for an engine or transmission?
Show me a transmission with over 150k and I will show you one that needs replaced.
With a new engine and transmission, sure.
Working on cars is a hobby of mine. If your transmission is going out at 150k, you probably think Chrysler makes good cars. Also, you can buy a performance transmission for less than $2 grand. The most basic Tesla battery replacement is $13 grand.
Honestly, you sound like a fucking retard who doesn't know a single thing about cars.
He is exactly that. In past threads where he's shilled for EVs, he's gone on and on about mechanical fuel injection in gas engines and how unreliable it is, where it's only ever been used in a couple of models ever, whereas carbs can be very reliable and the best, most desirable pickup diesel engine out there is the full mechanical 12 valve Cummins that will literally last a million miles. He's an ignorant fool.
My first car was a '98 Accord. I sold it in 2009. I got about 160k miles and I think my total out of pocket expenses on maintenance were about $850 over the entire life of the vehicle. A Maaco paint job, timing belt, and routine oil changes.
I spent close to that every 3-6 months maintaining my BMW 3 series.
A $13k random expense would have crippled me. Anyone who signs up for that kind of nonsense better be wealthy.
Just tow heavy.
You are comparing used material cost to new with installation
You can get a new tranny installed for $3500. But like most Gen Xers, we were taught in high school auto shop how to install a transmission.
Installing a new battery in a Tesla requires a hydraulic lift that 99.99% of homes don't have. On top of that, you basically have to take apart the entire bottom of the vehicle.
But you're also ignoring the fact to purchase just the battery alone for a Model 3 cost $11k. Higher end EVs cost twice that.
Again, you are a fucking retard.
Not new. You are still comparing it to new. Used batteries exist
350 at harbor freight
And you are presuming that it is a whole new battery rather than certain cells being bad
Also, because you're an ignorant faggot. The impact of cobalt mining promotes slavery and devastation of the environment on the front and back end. The quarries are pure destruction and the ability to dispose of the 1000 pounds of depleted lithium-ion batteries in each car is almost as bad nuclear waste. It's pure poison for the ground and drinking water. Now times that by 150,000,000. What do you think that is going to do the environment? You morons who fall for democrat propaganda never see the big picture.
That is false, those are thieves who should be shot.
Shove in a pit and forget about it, a complete non-issue. Hell I would gladly have them all dumped on my dump property outside of Cheyenne Wyoming.
How am I wrong?
I love it. Let the Arabian Union go back to the Stone Age.
Good on one hand. On the other hand, we will still need plenty of oil for chemical production. So many things depend on starter chemicals from oil.
I'll take one of you're too good for it, yabba dabba doo motherfucker.
The EU is an unelected, globalist cabal that needs to be abolished.
Everywhere around the world, same date. How can you not be aware that a world government that want total control of our freedom is already in place?
Hope people will go hard against this.
Joke's on them. Oil is NOT a fossil fuel.
Say goodbye to your gas stoves. If regulation doesn't force you to switch the astronomical rise in price as the EU becomes entirely reliant on US exported gas will.
Brussels can take its mandates and jam them up its collective dictatorial rectii. They are not doing what the people want but what the unelected elite claim is needed. That is, they do not have the people's consent to mandate this.
So, just like the West Coast, Canada and whatever screwed up shitholes in America.
Love your post - but please Tell me more about these "strip club" car designs. I'm in the market for a new vehicle.
Has nothing to do with the climate either. Same old power and control bs.
thats 5 years late for the 2030 agenda
very disappointing for klaus
I thank Trump for their delay.
Lol, good luck with that.
RIP the power grid
Laughs in Lamborghini/Ferrari/Porsche/Mercedes/Bugatti/Koenigsegg
(Angry Andrew Tate noises)
As my father just said, "They'll all be murdered by then".
I fuckin hate europe. Worthless commies.
And just like that, electricity rates will skyrocket.
Why not by 2024?