Because the high is amazing and cheap..... Never makes a damn how dangerous a drug is if people are already addicted to the same class of drugs and this one's super effective and super cheap.......
When we had our last child, the hospital wanted my wife to have an epidural (IIRC .005mg fentanyl)... they wanted to charge $3k. My wife jokingly said she could probably ask one of the junkies in the lobby overdosing for some and get it cheaper. The nurse laughed. Then we declined. I'm not bringing newborn life into the world high on the deadliest pain killer known to man.
I've had an epidural every time I've delivered except once because baby came real fast. The kids are fine. I never felt doped up, just an itchy nose and numb legs.
Fentanyl is used in 99% of surgical cases. It has been used by hospitals for many years. Most patients receive on average 50-200 mcg of fentanyl intravenous to help with pain control/sedative effect. If you ever had a general anesthetic in the hospital, you have probably already been introduced to fentanyl. In small amounts it is a very effective drug. Is there a desensitizing process going on with fentanyl? Anything is possible nowdays. Since China is the world's producer of fentanyl, maybe we should be examing our products imported from China for other harmful contaminants and chemicals besides fentanyl.
it's ultra-heroin, synthetically manufacturered and shipped by the kilo from China, so there's no need for poppies.
dose is in the milligrams so you can hide it anywhere.
it's cheaper, more effective, widely obtainable in the US healthcare system, as it's prescribed.
but fox news people are still pronouncing it fent-oh-nawl and acting like the Mexicans have advanced pharmaceutical labs.
spez: obligatory "if Reagan says crack is so bad then why is the CIA selling so much of it??"
doublespez: chicoms downvoted me in under 2 minutes. educate your children, and buy some narcan, please. people are concertedly trying to take me down as a troll.
Keep a tool around specifically to save druggies from OD'ing
Naaaaaaaaah. Though even skin contact can cause intake of some of the crazy shit people are doing these days, so maybe you have a point in case of accidents.
I was bullshitting with a cop at a youth sports practice a couple weeks ago. This dude works in a town of about 2000. He said that in 2022 they exhausted their narcan budget by March. Fucking insane.
I don't think the narcon is for drug overdose, I think it's more accidental contact. btw my niece died of cocaine laced with fentynal... nobody was around when she took it, narcon wouldn't have helped.
Narcan is for drug overdose. That's exactly what it's for. Accidental contact through skin is made up BS to scare people. all those police videos eventually came out as staged.
Narcan most definitely is for opioid overdose. It’s just with Fetty Wap a lot of times it takes 2,3, sometimes 4+ for it to work. My friend racked some coke recently laced with Fetty, I turned my back for 20 seconds and things got eerily quiet. I called her name and turned around and she was over her laptop. I immediately picked her up and put her on my bed and gave her 2 Narcan shots and nothing. Called 911 and screamed into the phone “my friend is OD’ing I think fentanyl i gave her 2 Narcan shots and she’s not breathing!” And the 911 operator was super calm and collected about it, she was walking me how to give CPR over the phone and told me the paramedics were on the way. Those 911 operators are saints I can’t imagine the heartache they go through. I was sitting there screaming her name and to wake up while they’re counting the compressions for me and thank God almighty she woke up and I couldn’t stop sobbing. She had no idea what just happened and then the paramedics showed up and they gave her intravenous Narcan. If I could thank that 911 operator again I would my friend would have died that day without her.
At this point, I say let them die. Tell everyone how deadly it is, and if they insist on abusing it, then let them die.
Ignore the parents that try to sue, they are part of the problem. In fact, fine those parents for wasting everyone’s time and then arrest them if they try to lobby to get the law changed that does nothing but add more bureaucracy.
And especially don't take pills "from the street" !! DUH!
Sympathy for first responders who might accidentally touch the stuff -- Narcan budget for them.
Finally -- BOYCOTT buying anything from Chynah and Mexico.
That includes all the frozen fish at Safeway and Kroger -- check the damn labels -- all from China. That includes all the fresh produce from Mexico during winter.
This is a good answer. I was talking to some younger guys at work and apparently Percocets are popular now for whatever. Thing is, the majority of the ones available on the street are fake and are just pressed filler with fentanyl.
It's analogous to robbing liquor stores for a living and eventually getting shot by a proprietor with a gun then saying ban guns pr get a bullet proof vest...smh
No, because people are weak and make retarded choices.
Let them kill themselves. Good riddance. They kill their unborn, chip off their body parts, sterilize themselves, medically castrate themselves, and now they spike the George Floyd miracle drug?
At this point who cares? Drop off truck loads in their neighborhoods until they all OD. Then bulldoze the trap houses and rebuild without the useless dead weight.
Often times it's by accident, it gets disguised as pain medication and junkies think they're getting a pill they've taken thousands of and then drop dead.
I think the purpose of the counterfeit pills is to shave a teenie bit off, but since they're indistinguishable, accidents happen.
"Disguised as pain medication" .... that's ridiculous. " When's the last time you bough "pain medication" on the street corner from some sleaze ball? And who the fuck cares if some junkie offs himself?
I've never taken pain medication in my life, but that's precisely how my friends brother died a few years ago. Thought he was taking a Percocet and died in the back of a car.
I have no idea, I still ask myself the same question. I don’t understand the logic of mixing with coke. I can understand mixing with heroin, or other opiates, but coke?
Because the goal is death. They (the deepstate) mix it with all drugs so that people something like coke or another prescription drug and they fall dead....they know what they are doing. They are evil
Ask John Belushi Well, you can't. Because of Cathy Smith. She must have been something else, but looking at pictures of her, I just don't get it. Gordon Lightfoot wrote a song about her:
Sometimes I think it's a shame
When I get feeling better, when I'm feeling no pain
They probably put the correct amount for 5000 pills and made 5000 pills. The mix isnt perfect though so sometimes you get a hot one. All it takes is just a little more fent and a little less binder in a pill and you are dead. You might have got the only "strong one" out of 5000, but you're still dead.
yea hot spot exist, but they are definatly wayy stronger than normal pill.
All of these 5000 pill are all way stronger than normal stuff.
If you think they are regular one and take it as usual without reducing your dosage you will probably OD.
I think they do that on purpose to shoot up your tolerance so the other opiate barely do anything anymore and you now have no other choice but to take those fent presses or go through hell withdrawal.
Not everyone who likes to take a medium-strength opiate every now and then is a junkie. Irresponsible maybe, true, but not all of them are leftoids either. The fentanyl crisis is killing a lot of people and the Elites love it because it serves as a form of population control and the more they can keep people addicted and mentally broken, the more people can be more easily controlled.
Most "junkies" smoke fentanyl everyday and they don't usually overdose because their tolerance is so high.
But when some unsuspecting teenager gets what they think is Percocet from a friend at school next thing you know you have multiple 15 year olds not breathing or responding in the bathroom at school.
It’s usually from the way it’s mixed. About 3 milligrams of fentanyl will kill almost anyone. If one dose of something accidentally has a minuscule bit more than the other doses, then that 1 person is dropping dead, while everyone else who used the same batch will be fine.
I've seen statistics from pills they tested. A good 25% of them have an LD50 fatal dose. And some pills can contain up to 4x as much fentanyl as others in the same batch. You're right. Part of what makes them so deadly is how inconsistent they are.
We had batch of isotonitazene in canada that were very consistent, but also very strong, a quarter of those 8mg hydromorphone and you drop dead even with a tolerance.
In border areas it's very common, believe it or not. Before I got sober I bought weed from a guy that sold Mexican Vicodin for $2 a pill. That was 20 years ago, but it happens.
a lot of the FDA approved opiates were marketed illegally to MDs for ‘off-label’ uses which is illegal. See SubSys Yet the the fines the drug companies face is peanuts compared to potential profits, so there is no real incentive to reform
The entire pharma industrial complex needs to be dismantled and destroyed
true, but off label marketing is… and that exactly what the companies did. They targeted certain doctors, and bribed them to act as pushers, basically, with the intention that they would get their clients addicted. See again the case of SubSys
ive had my pelvic bone broken/crused into 2 piece along with my femur when i was 15(also meniere disease wich mean deafness/and vestibular broken at 69%), people have no idea what pain can make to you and your life.
You are clearly not those other people then. Some suffer from pain so bad and for so long that they get hooked regardless. When they are all better, they no longer require the meds but their body NEEDS them.
So a long dark path starts to form for them on how to get the medicine they think they still NEED. Lying to doctors, family members you name it. Then they meet Alpaca G, who gots what you need. Boom. Done fer.
Spelled out for you.
They put Fentynl inside of random sugar pills, sell it as Perks or Pain Pills. Cheap and everyone comes back for more. Pill poppers. Then they get a "Bad Batch" and Death
I've been following this over the past few months. This stuff is everywhere and is been trucked into the US by the tons. It's dropping people by the thousands and filling the gaps where their vax failed to reach.
Percs. Percocets. OP's probably typing on their phone or something. Percocet is a controlled substance because its an opiate. We had millions of people addicted, then Trump cracked down. Created a huge black market and Fentanyl was the drug that filled the vacuum. It's a synthetic opiate, though, and incredibly powerful. People OD because they don't realize this. Also, fentanyl in the presence of meth almost always results in cardiac arrest. Guess what George Floyd had in his system.
Trump did the right thing. But Pfizer filled the black market with Chinese made Fentanyl. Yes, Fentanyl is a Pfizer product.
Also, fentanyl in the presence of meth almost always results in cardiac arrest
Untreated with high enough dosage, or with enough chronic use it is likely. But the majority of the people intentionally and unintentionally using meth and fentanyl don't have an immediate cardiac arrest.
The meth alone can give you a heart attack. Stopping breathing for long enough from the fentanyl and your going to go into cardiac arrest. I've had hundreds of patients that have overdosed on meth and fentanyl at the same time, and the majority of them don't have a cardiac arrest. Without Narcan, at least half of them would be dead before they even reached us.
Using either drug recreationally is like playing Russian roulette.
I was citing a lab experiment with mice that I looked up in defense of Derek Chauvin. Floyd had 16 nG/mL of Fentanyl and 19 nG/mL of Meth in his system. I looked up lab tests of mice and when they had morphine introduced into their meth high, they died. I say cardiac arrest because all I could tell from the paper was that their hearts stopped but it could have been more in language I wasn't comprehending. While Floyd had morphine in his system, I was assuming Fent was simply much more potent and the lethal doses to the mice were smaller than the ratios George had after I accommodated for Floyd's size vs the mice.
Because it's an extremely powerful high, that doesn't take much to get. I was handling fent patches for my mom, when she was dying of cancer, and was walked through handling them by nurses - even the patches can mess you up handling them, if you touch the sticky side after the wrapper is removed. They were pretty hardcore about saying to never let that happen - and don't let kids near them. Fent can be extremely potent in even small amounts.
One nurse said they'd caught junkies a couple of times taking patches off patients in the cancer wing, they'd take them home and suck them.
Fent is "the good stuff" for junkies now. Cheaper than smack, easier to hide, comes in convenient pill form, and the high is way, way, way higher than other street drugs. Do you think junkies have even an iota of concern for dangers from what is the best drug on the street? If they were that rational, they wouldn't be junkies.
It is so prevalent, and so relatively cheap, that it is added to drugs like cocaine to make them cheaper to produce. Anyone who died of a combination of cocaine and fentanyl toxicity had no idea they were taking fentanyl.
I fucking worry about my 2 year old touching something at the park with fentanyl on it. Like that toddler in San Francisco who got poisoned by fentanyl while playing on a jungle gym.
That's the thing though. You don't have to take it. A tiny amount and contact with skin is enough for an effective amount to enter your bloodstream. Imagine you walk into work like you do everyday but the person who used the door in front of you managed to get a trace of fentanyl on the door. You likely won't even feel the fentanyl you touch, but congratulations, you will soon be overdosing.
I’ve known several people who became addicted to narcotics. Many were accidents (dr prescribed, or thought it was just weed) or unbelievably sad circumstances. It’s heart wrenching and not something to just brush off. Imagine suffering a terminal illness but without any support from your family and friends or anyone who cares?.
Why the hell can't people just be happy with a couple of beers with their burger, or a nice wine with their bolognese and call it day? After all these years, Nancy Reagan was right. There comes a point where you have to use the sense God gave you and just say no.
Or you wind up on Kensington Ave. It is what it is.
Got in arguments on Reddit for YEARS trying to convince people of this truth. If everyone would say no, nobody would be an addict and the cartels would be picking fruit or doing landscaping.
Agreed. The fork in the road is always there. How does someone put some crap off the street into their body? I just don't get it. Is moderation really that hard of a concept?
So many people are addicts. And many believe in God
There are definitely some people here who are addicts, believe in God. I know a ton of people who are absolute honest, hard working, God-fearing people who have addiction issues. This is human condition, satan's trick. Horrendous what drugs do to people. Not gunna hate them, but pray for them to find the right way.
There are a million different reasons why people take drugs, many being related to untreated childhood trauma. It really has little to do with how “smart” you are.
Not only that, to most people, mentioning who does it gets the person with facts in trouble.
China and India are making the stuff.
China and India are the top immigrant groups, and don't mind taking the land of those they have killed.
Mexicans, as always, happy to be criminals and transport the poison.
Pearl Harbor gets bombed, 2,469 people die, and rightly it is called an Act of War.
China, India and Mexico kill 100,000 American citizens every year with their planned attack with fentanyl, and most people who read about it are just careful they don't offend them. An Act of War.
President Trump the only one who cares.
Donald Trump backs lining up drug dealers in front of firing squads
Would certainly limit the amount of damage the Mexicans running over one border and the Indians driving over the other border and the Chinese just getting stuff delivered to their mailbox can do to the people.
Wow, you sound like a fucking leftist or a warmongering cuckservative "China and India are doing this." Blaming outside forces instead of calling these drug addicts to the mat for making fucked up decisions.
Nothing to do with other countries. If people stopped using, they wouldn't have a market to make it for. These individuals are weak. They make weak individual decisions.
Why did I have to scroll so far to see this logical post. As if China is forcing that pill in their mouth and stroking their throat like when you try to get your dog to take his meds. There is no more personal accountability.
I like your reply. I'd add to it that if someone is achy in their joints, drugs needn't be the cure. Simply cutting the crap out of one's diet can cut down on the pain. Cut sugar and Carbohydrates out of your diet and sugary drinks. The lessing of pain will be very noticeable within a couple of weeks. Drugs just mask the pain, but a great diet will kill the pain.
Think about it.....Adam and Eve didn't have drugs, but they had wonderful dietary choices. Thus the only pain they suffered was when they stubbed their toe or had a branch fall on their head.
Because your an idiot who speaks with zero understanding of chronic pain and diseases. Well a lot should not be given them to start, this tough it out mentality is childish. Can’t work because of the pain….well tough it out, can’t do that well you have to quit.
every day chronic pain is hell on earth it’s like a cancer always there reminding you life sucks. Trying to enjoy that birthday nope ruined
I know I would have offed myself year ago if not for pain management, nerve and muscle damage aren’t things you just walk off.
A lot of people here need to read about loving your fellow man, understanding that life isn’t black and white well alot abuse them…..let’s stop them for all. Done all fixed
I was with you until loving your fellow man nonsense. Because first thing I thought of is our government that wants us dead. I cannot love my fellow men when 50% of the country wants me dead because I'm straight, white, have a job and a family, and didn't get vaxxed.
So while I agree with your pain statement, the loving fellow man is impossible. We're at war. War equals casualties, casualties water the tree of liberty.
I don't take any joy in it, but we live in a society that is weak and tells you what you want to hear all the time. I'm telling you what you don't want to hear but it's true.
People have had pain for thousands of years and they got through it without designer, lab-perfected pain killers.
I already told you I'm perfectly willing to give people a pass that go through the shit. Modern medicine is amazing. Use it! I'm flexible... but I'm talking about abusing it...but here you are continuing to defend the abuse and making excuses for the abuse. Lemme spell it out for you again. If you're in pain... horrible bone crunching pain from cancer, back damage, whatever... then use some pain killers to get you through the worst of it, but you better be exploring every avenue you can to get off of them asap... you better be taking what your doc tells you about them with suspicion (docs have a horrible track record on pain killers) and you better treat them with a huge amount of respect. And don't fucking preach down to me... I grew up in one of poorest parts of KY. I know plenty about painkillers and how they're abused.
That isn't what the person was talking about. They were talking about generations being to that if anything is wrong, there is a drug for that to make you happy.
Or try sharing something within reason. Obviously I'm not talking about a bad medical episode or circumstance that requires short term pain medication.
A lot of people who got addicted to opioids (Oxycodone, etc.) were prescribed them after debilitating back injuries. You can addicted very quickly. And when you realize it and want to stop, you experience symptoms like the flu (except 100 times worse) that lasts for months. Its not easy, when you spend weeks puking, every bone aches, can't make your legs stop shaking, and experience extreme depression the urge to just take that pill to feel normal and be able to function again is very powerful. It impacted many good people, not everyone is some homeless, degenerate junkie.
Like I said, seems many here don't have any experience with it, yet talk like they are some moral authority.
Wow, tough guy, even throwing around insults. Now what would happen if you're an adult with bills to pay and a job to work? You're going to sit in bed in the same position for months?
Doesn't change the fact that you're a narcissist. No different than the tyrants in DC.
Pretty funny that a narcissist is calling people NPCs. I've known quite a few narcissists, and they are like robots. Incapable of empathy and think the world revolves around them and their needs. They like resorting to gaslighting and name-calling too.
Who can guess what drug is perfect for preserving organs prior to harvest? Next question: What percentage of fentanyl OD's have all their organs when their buried? https://tore-says-show.simplecast.com/episodes
Unless they die on a ventilator or are placed on one shortly thereafter, those organs are very unlikely to be suitable for harvest and transplant. They need perfusion (blood circulation and oxygenation)
This generation of young people are under attack in so many different ways. Fentanyl is just another way in which this attack manifests itself. “Just say no to drugs” was never as important a message as it is today. This crap is in everything from coke to weed. Parents better be on their “A” game until we can oust the open-border crowd from office
Parents need to show kids what’s at the end of the tunnel. “Just say no” is too abstract and unsubstantiated. Take the kids to a narcotics anonymous meeting. Walk them through the homeless neighborhoods. Find a way to show exactly what’s at stake. And how vigilant they actually need to be to defend themselves from an accidental addiction.
Other than locking your kid in the house with padlocks I’m not sure how you can control them outside of your presence. I know of kids from great families who have kids who became drug addicts. You can church and educate them and be the most loving, involved parents on earth and still have a kid who dies of drugs or alcohol.
True. There are those who slip between the cracks. Statistically speaking, kids from loving, functional, and intact households have a much greater chance of avoiding a life of drug addiction, or one cut short from drug abuse. My warning is for parents asleep at the wheel, or who are completely AWOL
There was a number of big busts here in TN, after fentanyl ODs suddenly shot through the roof. Like 80 people at a time were picked up.
Turns out a few big dealers, who were also tweakers, were cross-contaminating their weed and meth with fentanyl, by storing it all in one box, just all tossed in together. Thet then passed this along to a couple hundred street peddlers.
Within days, all the 911 calls started rolling in, and TBI got involved.
This is not going to be a popular comment, but shouldn't we just let natural selection take it's course? If you're going to be a junkie, then if not fentanyl it will be something else.
We should just let people OD instead of using billions in tax money for the "war on drugs" that our three letter agencies are actually helping to smuggle in.
I would instead love to see that money go into making as many rehab clinics as possible so that there is always a detox bed available for anyone strong enough in the moment to make that choice. Addicts are on a nearly impossible road but some people do escape. And if that was your lost son or daughter you would be so grateful.
Kids going to night clubs and raves think their taking ecstasy (mdma) and are instead getting fentanyl. This slides them into an opiate addiction for which fentanyl provides quick answers.
Not so sure. Almost all kids getting a hot dose of fentanyl with no history or chemical tolerance for opiates are dropping dead that same night. Only gateway this drug is leading kids to is the grave.
Heroin junkies and the homeless that have been using for years are mostly switching to fet now since it's 100 times more potent, cheaper, and more readily available.
Haven't seen a substance escalation like this since meth hit the scene in the early 90s and put cocaine out of style overnight for lower class and blue collar Americans.
A new drug is spreading through the Seattle area that is even more dangerous than pure fentanyl.
People are mixing fentanyl with xylazine, a tranquilizer used on large animals like horses and elephants, to create a mixture known as tranq.
Tranq is especially lethal because both xylazine and fentanyl are downers, which cause the heart to beat at a dangerously slow rate. In minutes, a person can slip into a coma and die.
Aw... poor kids. All they wanted was a little safe and legal molly but some big bad drug dealer tricked them and they wound up dead. Awww! Please Mr. Drug Dealer: don't mess up my illegal drug experiences by giving me a different illegal drug.
I've lost a lot of friends and family to this epidemic. All those lives lost while you just sit there smug and satisfied at the death being caused. Cheering on the destruction of our youth as if they deserved it. As if you did all you could, sitting there smug and gleeful at the destruction of innocent life. Just like an effeminate do-nothing leftist.
Fuckin narcissists on this site. Some of these people are exactly like the trannies who are so full of pride, they dance in front of small children half-naked.
Im an asshole too, but man, this dude's take is so shallow, so narcissistic, he's in the same category as these libtards.
How many of us have been touched directly by addiction, family friends, loved ones, or even ourselves? I will bet 1000 that this dude has a nasty addiction that he isn't mentioning, because WE ALL FAIL.
Its really pathetic. There's a lot of narcissists on here. I tried conveying the problem to a few in this post and was called "pathetic and weak." Purely narcissist behavior unable to empathize and understand the problem. According to them, anyone who even associates with anyone who ever took a drug (even prescribed) deserves to die.
Pride is the danger and we are all guilty of it. But the utter hatred and wishing for people to suffer and die is not what I'm about. Frankly I get grossed out by narcissists. Have some in my family and it is disgusting the level of self-absorption, heartless, no empathy these people have.
Not what I'm about. I would rather be friends with a lefty before a narcissist. That's how shitty they really are.
Same, also have some in my family and grew up around them. Some of the most toxic and insufferable people imaginable. They'll destroy lives. These are the same types running things in DC right now.
Many people are unable to empathize. Drug addiction impacts many different kinds of people. And it certainly didn't help that Big Pharma and doctors were handing them out like candy for years while saying they weren't addictive.
Many people went to enormous effort to resist taking drugs, to refuse to associate with drug people, to avoid places where they were consumed and sold, to try to tell others that the demand funded cartels and evil pharmaceutical companies. Funny how those folks are shit on for not shedding tears for people who made every lazy, stupid, misinformed and self-destructive choice offered to them and brought this on all of us.
Drug use is the soft underbelly of America. What kind of retard doesn’t understand that it was an inevitable target of our enemies?
Good for you. No one is "shitting on you." But what is your experience with drug addiction?
Simply disregarding the problem as "fuck them, anyone who got addicted deserves to die and its all their fault" isn't helpful.
With opioids, for example, can get addicted/dependent to something without even realizing it. Then when you realize it and try to stop, you encounter the worst flu symptoms (like the flu but 100 times worse) that lasts months. The urge to just take that drug again to feel normal and to be able to function normally is extremely powerful. Many people good people got caught up in that when dealing with painful back injuries. Calling them "weak and lazy" isn't going to solve the problem.
Things like alcohol, caffeine, nicotine and many other things are drugs too that many people are addicted to. I'd bet that many on here insulting anyone impacted by drug addiction has to have their glass of whiskey every night.
Two milligrams of fentanyl can be lethal depending on a person’s body size, tolerance and past usage. DEA analysis has found counterfeit pills ranging from .02 to 5.1 milligrams (more than twice the lethal dose) of fentanyl per tablet.
42% of pills tested for fentanyl contained at least 2 mg of fentanyl, considered a potentially lethal dose.
Drug trafficking organizations typically distribute fentanyl by the kilogram. One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people.
At a parade on Saturday (it is Mardi Gras here) paramedics were trying to revive someone suspected to have overdosed on fentanyl. Also my mom's neighbor son (31) died to fentanyl 2 weeks ago. It's a huge problem.
One thing I think is way misrepresented is that people don’t know what they’re getting. From people I know, they know exactly what they’re messing with. One of them OD’d too
I agree. They know they're buying stepped on junk street drugs.
What else does a person need to know? Even the most low-down homeless junkie knows that drugs you buy on a street corner aren't the reference standard for purity in pharmaceuticals.
They know damned well. It's just that we're supposed to feel sorry for them, because the west has become consumed with performative compassion for every sad sack loser who can present their wretchedness before the public.
The problem is this stuff isn’t killing only dope heads. It’s killing children who think it’s cool to pop a pill, and never know it’s laced with 2mg of fentanyl and kills then.
Drug wars don't work. They were unable to keep out weed. They were unable to keep out coke. They were unable to keep out meth. They were unable to keep out heroin.
I don'y know why anyone is expecting a different outcome with a new drug that is even more addictive, more powerful and easier to smuggle.
I'd be interested to hear what you think would stop it. There have been a lot of good people who have done their level best to stop the avalanche. Alas... it has never worked.
The narcos would simply recruit mules in places where life is cheap. And the parade would continue. Plus we are not going to execute illiterate peasants for carrying an ounce of fentanyl across the border in their assholes.
A new drug is spreading through the Seattle area that is even more dangerous than pure fentanyl.
People are mixing fentanyl with xylazine, a tranquilizer used on large animals like horses and elephants, to create a mixture known as tranq.
Tranq is especially lethal because both xylazine and fentanyl are downers, which cause the heart to beat at a dangerously slow rate. In minutes, a person can slip into a coma and die.
This is what caused me to quit doing coke. I know it’s going to have disastrous effects, but maybe it will cause a cultural shift too—maybe it will curb casual use of drugs like coke and pills.
Have they thought of sensible fentanyl control? Maybe targeting and controlling assault fentanyl? Registering fentanyl owners? Taking away pistol brace fentanyl dispensers? How about restricting the number of fentanyl injections in a single syringe? I am sure that will all work
After all the bad press Fentanyl has gotten, why would anyone want to take it?
Because the high is amazing and cheap..... Never makes a damn how dangerous a drug is if people are already addicted to the same class of drugs and this one's super effective and super cheap.......
This is the only reasonable answer I've seen.
I place some blame on advertising and the lack of drug criminality laws in democrat stolen states as well.
Advertising fentanyl NYC https://patriots.win/p/15IEF4AdSz/this-is-real-from-the-nyc-depart/c/
China intentionally poisoning us with fentanyl Republican Senator claims https://patriots.win/p/16aADmwSVm/top-republican-senator-communist/c/
Brought to you by J&J Fentanyl https://patriots.win/p/15HuxiVYeO/fentanyl-is-manufactured-by-john/c/
Media covers pox over fentanyl https://patriots.win/p/15HvUXAHDE/jimmyfailla--fentanyl-crossing-o/c/
18-45 More fentanyl deaths than covid 2020 https://patriots.win/p/140vMIfuzt/also-made-in-china/c/
Fentanyl used at hospital https://patriots.win/p/141YIiPnFL/hospitals-are-death-zones-guy-wa/c/
Enough to kill every American 8x over https://patriots.win/p/15JnG7ttn5/enough-fentanyl-seized-at-the-us/c/
When we had our last child, the hospital wanted my wife to have an epidural (IIRC .005mg fentanyl)... they wanted to charge $3k. My wife jokingly said she could probably ask one of the junkies in the lobby overdosing for some and get it cheaper. The nurse laughed. Then we declined. I'm not bringing newborn life into the world high on the deadliest pain killer known to man.
I've had an epidural every time I've delivered except once because baby came real fast. The kids are fine. I never felt doped up, just an itchy nose and numb legs.
Fentanyl is used in 99% of surgical cases. It has been used by hospitals for many years. Most patients receive on average 50-200 mcg of fentanyl intravenous to help with pain control/sedative effect. If you ever had a general anesthetic in the hospital, you have probably already been introduced to fentanyl. In small amounts it is a very effective drug. Is there a desensitizing process going on with fentanyl? Anything is possible nowdays. Since China is the world's producer of fentanyl, maybe we should be examing our products imported from China for other harmful contaminants and chemicals besides fentanyl.
it's ultra-heroin, synthetically manufacturered and shipped by the kilo from China, so there's no need for poppies.
dose is in the milligrams so you can hide it anywhere.
it's cheaper, more effective, widely obtainable in the US healthcare system, as it's prescribed.
but fox news people are still pronouncing it fent-oh-nawl and acting like the Mexicans have advanced pharmaceutical labs.
spez: obligatory "if Reagan says crack is so bad then why is the CIA selling so much of it??"
doublespez: chicoms downvoted me in under 2 minutes. educate your children, and buy some narcan, please. people are concertedly trying to take me down as a troll.
yes.
Naaaaaaaaah. Though even skin contact can cause intake of some of the crazy shit people are doing these days, so maybe you have a point in case of accidents.
A person's child might experiment with drugs.
Or simply try a drink from a friend.
If you don't want the $4 tool that could save that child's life, I don't know what to say.
Speaking as an uncle of a pre-teen child who died. please.
this OP is literally about how it's EVERYWHERE now. this isn't the 80s.
accidental contact or deliberate poisoning...
How? They didn't willingly ingest it themselves?
I was bullshitting with a cop at a youth sports practice a couple weeks ago. This dude works in a town of about 2000. He said that in 2022 they exhausted their narcan budget by March. Fucking insane.
Having a Narcan budget is the crazy part
THIS. If we let the druggies die, the problem solves itself.
I don't think the narcon is for drug overdose, I think it's more accidental contact. btw my niece died of cocaine laced with fentynal... nobody was around when she took it, narcon wouldn't have helped.
Narcan is for drug overdose. That's exactly what it's for. Accidental contact through skin is made up BS to scare people. all those police videos eventually came out as staged.
Good to know... So much is staged...
Narcan most definitely is for opioid overdose. It’s just with Fetty Wap a lot of times it takes 2,3, sometimes 4+ for it to work. My friend racked some coke recently laced with Fetty, I turned my back for 20 seconds and things got eerily quiet. I called her name and turned around and she was over her laptop. I immediately picked her up and put her on my bed and gave her 2 Narcan shots and nothing. Called 911 and screamed into the phone “my friend is OD’ing I think fentanyl i gave her 2 Narcan shots and she’s not breathing!” And the 911 operator was super calm and collected about it, she was walking me how to give CPR over the phone and told me the paramedics were on the way. Those 911 operators are saints I can’t imagine the heartache they go through. I was sitting there screaming her name and to wake up while they’re counting the compressions for me and thank God almighty she woke up and I couldn’t stop sobbing. She had no idea what just happened and then the paramedics showed up and they gave her intravenous Narcan. If I could thank that 911 operator again I would my friend would have died that day without her.
wow, incredible story, you know YOU saved her life, right. Blessings... :)
That saves a trip to Canada for legally offing yourself.
I mean, I have no problem with the CIA selling drugs to joggers...
fuck em.
Is Narcan the same as Naloxone?
I know a few people who keep it on hand.
Yes
I should buy stock in the company that makes it. Probably Pfizer tho...
The problem and the solution...brought to you by Pfizer.
yep, just the 'name brand'.
China is the; if not a top contender for being biggest producer of RC's and legit synthetic chemicals.
No need for poppies? No wonder the CIA had us pull out of Afghanistan so fast, the soldiers didn't have to defend the drug fields anymore
At this point, I say let them die. Tell everyone how deadly it is, and if they insist on abusing it, then let them die.
Ignore the parents that try to sue, they are part of the problem. In fact, fine those parents for wasting everyone’s time and then arrest them if they try to lobby to get the law changed that does nothing but add more bureaucracy.
Many pills are laced with it. People don't know they're getting it. Pay attention.
And especially don't take pills "from the street" !! DUH!
Sympathy for first responders who might accidentally touch the stuff -- Narcan budget for them.
Finally -- BOYCOTT buying anything from Chynah and Mexico. That includes all the frozen fish at Safeway and Kroger -- check the damn labels -- all from China. That includes all the fresh produce from Mexico during winter.
Check the label and BOYCOTT their crap!!
This is a good answer. I was talking to some younger guys at work and apparently Percocets are popular now for whatever. Thing is, the majority of the ones available on the street are fake and are just pressed filler with fentanyl.
It's analogous to robbing liquor stores for a living and eventually getting shot by a proprietor with a gun then saying ban guns pr get a bullet proof vest...smh
No, because people are weak and make retarded choices.
Let them kill themselves. Good riddance. They kill their unborn, chip off their body parts, sterilize themselves, medically castrate themselves, and now they spike the George Floyd miracle drug?
At this point who cares? Drop off truck loads in their neighborhoods until they all OD. Then bulldoze the trap houses and rebuild without the useless dead weight.
Is it amazing when you're slumped over folded in half on the street? Somehow it doesn't look amazing.
Often times it's by accident, it gets disguised as pain medication and junkies think they're getting a pill they've taken thousands of and then drop dead.
I think the purpose of the counterfeit pills is to shave a teenie bit off, but since they're indistinguishable, accidents happen.
"Disguised as pain medication" .... that's ridiculous. " When's the last time you bough "pain medication" on the street corner from some sleaze ball? And who the fuck cares if some junkie offs himself?
I've never taken pain medication in my life, but that's precisely how my friends brother died a few years ago. Thought he was taking a Percocet and died in the back of a car.
My buddy’s brother died because the coke he bought was mixed with fent. He had no idea and died after a line
Sorry to hear that. The stuff seems to be everywhere.
Ugh sorry. Why would they mix fent in the coke? Don't they go in opposite directions?
I have no idea, I still ask myself the same question. I don’t understand the logic of mixing with coke. I can understand mixing with heroin, or other opiates, but coke?
It’s a shame really
Because the goal is death. They (the deepstate) mix it with all drugs so that people something like coke or another prescription drug and they fall dead....they know what they are doing. They are evil
Coke dealers will say “this shit is really good, it’s fish scales bro, you can sleep and eat on it, that’s how you know it’s pure.”
because
Ask John Belushi Well, you can't. Because of Cathy Smith. She must have been something else, but looking at pictures of her, I just don't get it. Gordon Lightfoot wrote a song about her:
Sometimes I think it's a shame
When I get feeling better, when I'm feeling no pain
Sundown, you better take care
If I find you been creeping 'round my back stairs
He was murdered. Whoever put enough fentanyl in a counterfeit Percocet to kill someone is a murderer imo.
They probably put the correct amount for 5000 pills and made 5000 pills. The mix isnt perfect though so sometimes you get a hot one. All it takes is just a little more fent and a little less binder in a pill and you are dead. You might have got the only "strong one" out of 5000, but you're still dead.
yea hot spot exist, but they are definatly wayy stronger than normal pill. All of these 5000 pill are all way stronger than normal stuff. If you think they are regular one and take it as usual without reducing your dosage you will probably OD.
I think they do that on purpose to shoot up your tolerance so the other opiate barely do anything anymore and you now have no other choice but to take those fent presses or go through hell withdrawal.
Dude, this is rampant, and the fact that you think it’s not happening everywhere showed how out of touch you are
Not everyone who likes to take a medium-strength opiate every now and then is a junkie. Irresponsible maybe, true, but not all of them are leftoids either. The fentanyl crisis is killing a lot of people and the Elites love it because it serves as a form of population control and the more they can keep people addicted and mentally broken, the more people can be more easily controlled.
Fent is getting laced into about every illegal street drug now. Cocaine, heroin, even weed. Not a good time to experiment with drugs people.
Show me Fent laced weed. 0 dealers are wasting fent on weed and its the stupidest shit ever.
No it’s not stupid, it gets people hooked on it.
The deepstate is doing it to kill people
Most "junkies" smoke fentanyl everyday and they don't usually overdose because their tolerance is so high.
But when some unsuspecting teenager gets what they think is Percocet from a friend at school next thing you know you have multiple 15 year olds not breathing or responding in the bathroom at school.
It’s usually from the way it’s mixed. About 3 milligrams of fentanyl will kill almost anyone. If one dose of something accidentally has a minuscule bit more than the other doses, then that 1 person is dropping dead, while everyone else who used the same batch will be fine.
I've seen statistics from pills they tested. A good 25% of them have an LD50 fatal dose. And some pills can contain up to 4x as much fentanyl as others in the same batch. You're right. Part of what makes them so deadly is how inconsistent they are.
We had batch of isotonitazene in canada that were very consistent, but also very strong, a quarter of those 8mg hydromorphone and you drop dead even with a tolerance.
And the more stress that is placed on our economy and our social welfare systems.
In border areas it's very common, believe it or not. Before I got sober I bought weed from a guy that sold Mexican Vicodin for $2 a pill. That was 20 years ago, but it happens.
It's common in most states.
I have lived near the border, or way out in the country most of my life, so I only know the one area from experience
People get hooked on pills by the doctors, then when they can't get anymore because the Dr. won't Rx them anymore, they go elsewhere.
^this
a lot of the FDA approved opiates were marketed illegally to MDs for ‘off-label’ uses which is illegal. See SubSys Yet the the fines the drug companies face is peanuts compared to potential profits, so there is no real incentive to reform
The entire pharma industrial complex needs to be dismantled and destroyed
Off label use is not illegal
true, but off label marketing is… and that exactly what the companies did. They targeted certain doctors, and bribed them to act as pushers, basically, with the intention that they would get their clients addicted. See again the case of SubSys
ive had my pelvic bone broken/crused into 2 piece along with my femur when i was 15(also meniere disease wich mean deafness/and vestibular broken at 69%), people have no idea what pain can make to you and your life.
You are clearly not those other people then. Some suffer from pain so bad and for so long that they get hooked regardless. When they are all better, they no longer require the meds but their body NEEDS them. So a long dark path starts to form for them on how to get the medicine they think they still NEED. Lying to doctors, family members you name it. Then they meet Alpaca G, who gots what you need. Boom. Done fer. Spelled out for you.
They put Fentynl inside of random sugar pills, sell it as Perks or Pain Pills. Cheap and everyone comes back for more. Pill poppers. Then they get a "Bad Batch" and Death
I've been following this over the past few months. This stuff is everywhere and is been trucked into the US by the tons. It's dropping people by the thousands and filling the gaps where their vax failed to reach.
And who exactly buys there "perks" and "pain pills"? And where to they buy them? And what do they think they're buying them for?
Percs. Percocets. OP's probably typing on their phone or something. Percocet is a controlled substance because its an opiate. We had millions of people addicted, then Trump cracked down. Created a huge black market and Fentanyl was the drug that filled the vacuum. It's a synthetic opiate, though, and incredibly powerful. People OD because they don't realize this. Also, fentanyl in the presence of meth almost always results in cardiac arrest. Guess what George Floyd had in his system.
Trump did the right thing. But Pfizer filled the black market with Chinese made Fentanyl. Yes, Fentanyl is a Pfizer product.
Untreated with high enough dosage, or with enough chronic use it is likely. But the majority of the people intentionally and unintentionally using meth and fentanyl don't have an immediate cardiac arrest.
The meth alone can give you a heart attack. Stopping breathing for long enough from the fentanyl and your going to go into cardiac arrest. I've had hundreds of patients that have overdosed on meth and fentanyl at the same time, and the majority of them don't have a cardiac arrest. Without Narcan, at least half of them would be dead before they even reached us.
Using either drug recreationally is like playing Russian roulette.
I was citing a lab experiment with mice that I looked up in defense of Derek Chauvin. Floyd had 16 nG/mL of Fentanyl and 19 nG/mL of Meth in his system. I looked up lab tests of mice and when they had morphine introduced into their meth high, they died. I say cardiac arrest because all I could tell from the paper was that their hearts stopped but it could have been more in language I wasn't comprehending. While Floyd had morphine in his system, I was assuming Fent was simply much more potent and the lethal doses to the mice were smaller than the ratios George had after I accommodated for Floyd's size vs the mice.
Isn't this theirs?
https://www.pfizer.com/products/product-detail/fentanyl_citrate
They make Fentanyl Citrate, the liquid version.
I didn't say they manufacture it, though. It's Chinese made. It all is.
Fentanyl is not under patent. Anyone can make it
Aw shit. Aight, then.
Dear lord. How naive are you?
Is this a serious comment? Welcome to the opioid epidemic
Because it's an extremely powerful high, that doesn't take much to get. I was handling fent patches for my mom, when she was dying of cancer, and was walked through handling them by nurses - even the patches can mess you up handling them, if you touch the sticky side after the wrapper is removed. They were pretty hardcore about saying to never let that happen - and don't let kids near them. Fent can be extremely potent in even small amounts.
One nurse said they'd caught junkies a couple of times taking patches off patients in the cancer wing, they'd take them home and suck them.
Fent is "the good stuff" for junkies now. Cheaper than smack, easier to hide, comes in convenient pill form, and the high is way, way, way higher than other street drugs. Do you think junkies have even an iota of concern for dangers from what is the best drug on the street? If they were that rational, they wouldn't be junkies.
It is so prevalent, and so relatively cheap, that it is added to drugs like cocaine to make them cheaper to produce. Anyone who died of a combination of cocaine and fentanyl toxicity had no idea they were taking fentanyl.
Oh...but it's OK that they thought they were snorting coke. I see.
Did I say snorting coke was good? I'm a medical examiner, just stating a fact here.
Don’t do that. People are asking how it gets delivered.
What happens when the suppliers start adding it to the marijuana, shrooms or acid?
They're gonna lose alot of customers.
It's literally creating zombies out of people. It takes so little to kill someone it's essentially a mass bio weapon.
Right, I don't consume narcotics, but I'm concerned about this shit just getting into everything including non-food or drug products.
I fucking worry about my 2 year old touching something at the park with fentanyl on it. Like that toddler in San Francisco who got poisoned by fentanyl while playing on a jungle gym.
Rightfully so! It's been OD'ing cops that are simply feeling around in criminals pockets from the stuff now. Scary shit.
Enough of it could be weaponized rather easily I’m guessing.
It isn't making a zombie out of me ... cuz I don't take drugs. :)
That's the thing though. You don't have to take it. A tiny amount and contact with skin is enough for an effective amount to enter your bloodstream. Imagine you walk into work like you do everyday but the person who used the door in front of you managed to get a trace of fentanyl on the door. You likely won't even feel the fentanyl you touch, but congratulations, you will soon be overdosing.
It can even kill just being airborne.
Honestly who cares. Whoever is dumb enough to take it just dies off. It’s natural selection.
I’ve known several people who became addicted to narcotics. Many were accidents (dr prescribed, or thought it was just weed) or unbelievably sad circumstances. It’s heart wrenching and not something to just brush off. Imagine suffering a terminal illness but without any support from your family and friends or anyone who cares?.
Why the hell can't people just be happy with a couple of beers with their burger, or a nice wine with their bolognese and call it day? After all these years, Nancy Reagan was right. There comes a point where you have to use the sense God gave you and just say no.
Or you wind up on Kensington Ave. It is what it is.
Got in arguments on Reddit for YEARS trying to convince people of this truth. If everyone would say no, nobody would be an addict and the cartels would be picking fruit or doing landscaping.
Agreed. The fork in the road is always there. How does someone put some crap off the street into their body? I just don't get it. Is moderation really that hard of a concept?
It made sense in the 80s when we had jobs and a housing market that didn't rape people.
Now, you really need to ask "why wouldn't they say no?"
That's harder to get at.
Seems odd that people who are struggling to pay rent have all this disposable income for tattoos and drugs.
it didn't make sense in the 80s either. it's just that it is way more dangerous now.
there wasn't fentanyl out there in the 80s, but every town had businesses that got snorted up the proprietor's nose.
These people don’t believe in God, and all they know is how to get high.
I know addicts who believe in God.
So many people are addicts. And many believe in God
There are definitely some people here who are addicts, believe in God. I know a ton of people who are absolute honest, hard working, God-fearing people who have addiction issues. This is human condition, satan's trick. Horrendous what drugs do to people. Not gunna hate them, but pray for them to find the right way.
There are a million different reasons why people take drugs, many being related to untreated childhood trauma. It really has little to do with how “smart” you are.
Everyone doesn't care.
Not only that, to most people, mentioning who does it gets the person with facts in trouble.
China and India are making the stuff.
China and India are the top immigrant groups, and don't mind taking the land of those they have killed.
Mexicans, as always, happy to be criminals and transport the poison.
Pearl Harbor gets bombed, 2,469 people die, and rightly it is called an Act of War.
China, India and Mexico kill 100,000 American citizens every year with their planned attack with fentanyl, and most people who read about it are just careful they don't offend them. An Act of War.
President Trump the only one who cares.
Would certainly limit the amount of damage the Mexicans running over one border and the Indians driving over the other border and the Chinese just getting stuff delivered to their mailbox can do to the people.
The cartels are now buying the precursors and making it themselves. Hencho en mexico.
Wow, you sound like a fucking leftist or a warmongering cuckservative "China and India are doing this." Blaming outside forces instead of calling these drug addicts to the mat for making fucked up decisions.
Nothing to do with other countries. If people stopped using, they wouldn't have a market to make it for. These individuals are weak. They make weak individual decisions.
Why did I have to scroll so far to see this logical post. As if China is forcing that pill in their mouth and stroking their throat like when you try to get your dog to take his meds. There is no more personal accountability.
This would never happen anywhere else because American politicians want their people dead.
Here's a solution. Stop being a little pussy faggot and stop taking substances to kill your pain.
Eat the pain, embrace the pain... face your humanity and shake hands with the reaper.
I like your reply. I'd add to it that if someone is achy in their joints, drugs needn't be the cure. Simply cutting the crap out of one's diet can cut down on the pain. Cut sugar and Carbohydrates out of your diet and sugary drinks. The lessing of pain will be very noticeable within a couple of weeks. Drugs just mask the pain, but a great diet will kill the pain.
Think about it.....Adam and Eve didn't have drugs, but they had wonderful dietary choices. Thus the only pain they suffered was when they stubbed their toe or had a branch fall on their head.
I'm not kidding. Our society is so fucking weak. Any pain or sorrow we have we deaden it with drugs or addictions.
Being human is filled with sorrow, joy and pain... embrace it all, experience it all.
Easy to say when you're not suffering in pain.
How do you know I haven't had pain?
Because your an idiot who speaks with zero understanding of chronic pain and diseases. Well a lot should not be given them to start, this tough it out mentality is childish. Can’t work because of the pain….well tough it out, can’t do that well you have to quit.
every day chronic pain is hell on earth it’s like a cancer always there reminding you life sucks. Trying to enjoy that birthday nope ruined
I know I would have offed myself year ago if not for pain management, nerve and muscle damage aren’t things you just walk off.
A lot of people here need to read about loving your fellow man, understanding that life isn’t black and white well alot abuse them…..let’s stop them for all. Done all fixed
Agree with you totally. Pain management is definitely needed for people.
Unfortunately, many treat their psychological or emotional trauma with some of the same substances.
Trauma is Satan's greatest trick. Take a beautiful soul, and traumatize them with another "former" beautiful person. The cycle continues. Fuck Satan.
Glad you found treatment. I know what chronic pain is, it is horrible and life-ending.
God bless you.
I was with you until loving your fellow man nonsense. Because first thing I thought of is our government that wants us dead. I cannot love my fellow men when 50% of the country wants me dead because I'm straight, white, have a job and a family, and didn't get vaxxed.
So while I agree with your pain statement, the loving fellow man is impossible. We're at war. War equals casualties, casualties water the tree of liberty.
Found the addict...
Easy to play victim when all you are is a pussy.
Oh bullshit. Ever had bone cancer? Autoimmune disease that turns your muscles and tendons to cement? Yeah. I thought not.
Yeah I had it yesterday. Took an aspirin and got over it.
Of course I'm not talking about terminal or near terminal illnesses fucktard.
What an asshole you are. Were you born that way or do you just practice real hard?
I don't take any joy in it, but we live in a society that is weak and tells you what you want to hear all the time. I'm telling you what you don't want to hear but it's true.
People have had pain for thousands of years and they got through it without designer, lab-perfected pain killers.
I already told you I'm perfectly willing to give people a pass that go through the shit. Modern medicine is amazing. Use it! I'm flexible... but I'm talking about abusing it...but here you are continuing to defend the abuse and making excuses for the abuse. Lemme spell it out for you again. If you're in pain... horrible bone crunching pain from cancer, back damage, whatever... then use some pain killers to get you through the worst of it, but you better be exploring every avenue you can to get off of them asap... you better be taking what your doc tells you about them with suspicion (docs have a horrible track record on pain killers) and you better treat them with a huge amount of respect. And don't fucking preach down to me... I grew up in one of poorest parts of KY. I know plenty about painkillers and how they're abused.
So have a nice day.
That isn't what the person was talking about. They were talking about generations being to that if anything is wrong, there is a drug for that to make you happy.
I grow and smoke weed because I like it. Granted, I have a family, home, full time job, and a family business. So I'm a productive pothead.
Try injuring your back so badly that you can't even stand up without blacking out and tell someone to "suck it up and embrace the pain"
Or try sharing something within reason. Obviously I'm not talking about a bad medical episode or circumstance that requires short term pain medication.
A lot of people who got addicted to opioids (Oxycodone, etc.) were prescribed them after debilitating back injuries. You can addicted very quickly. And when you realize it and want to stop, you experience symptoms like the flu (except 100 times worse) that lasts for months. Its not easy, when you spend weeks puking, every bone aches, can't make your legs stop shaking, and experience extreme depression the urge to just take that pill to feel normal and be able to function again is very powerful. It impacted many good people, not everyone is some homeless, degenerate junkie.
Like I said, seems many here don't have any experience with it, yet talk like they are some moral authority.
You got a narcissism problem. Sucks bro, hard to treat that.
Wow, tough guy, even throwing around insults. Now what would happen if you're an adult with bills to pay and a job to work? You're going to sit in bed in the same position for months?
Completely ignored my point.
You sound like a narcissist. Enjoy your NPD.
Doesn't change the fact that you're a narcissist. No different than the tyrants in DC.
Pretty funny that a narcissist is calling people NPCs. I've known quite a few narcissists, and they are like robots. Incapable of empathy and think the world revolves around them and their needs. They like resorting to gaslighting and name-calling too.
I’m certain that 100 percent of the demand for fentanyl is people with debilitating back injuries.
Who would have thought enabling drug use would lead to exponentially more drug use???
Who can guess what drug is perfect for preserving organs prior to harvest? Next question: What percentage of fentanyl OD's have all their organs when their buried? https://tore-says-show.simplecast.com/episodes
Since when?
Got some other medical sources for that beyond some random looking podcast?
Wanting to harvest the organs of major drug addicts is a fucking retarded notion.......
I guess the plan is to get them hooked to death fast enough that there isn't any time for real organ damage to set in..?
I don't think we need to tack on an organ harvesting conspiracy to what is ultimately just China returning the favor from the opium wars.
Fentanyl is a Pfizer product.
China have memory long time.
Fuck China, that was England. The US only ever wanted to trade with them.
Unless they die on a ventilator or are placed on one shortly thereafter, those organs are very unlikely to be suitable for harvest and transplant. They need perfusion (blood circulation and oxygenation)
This generation of young people are under attack in so many different ways. Fentanyl is just another way in which this attack manifests itself. “Just say no to drugs” was never as important a message as it is today. This crap is in everything from coke to weed. Parents better be on their “A” game until we can oust the open-border crowd from office
Parents need to show kids what’s at the end of the tunnel. “Just say no” is too abstract and unsubstantiated. Take the kids to a narcotics anonymous meeting. Walk them through the homeless neighborhoods. Find a way to show exactly what’s at stake. And how vigilant they actually need to be to defend themselves from an accidental addiction.
Just say no is perfectly simple and easy to explain.
And easy to ignore.
If someone is that stupid, I wonder how you think a more substantiated approach would reach them.
You sound like one of those refer madness moms from the 60s and 70s. Lol. "OMG, IT'S AROUND EVEEY CORNER!"
Just don't raise your kids near a big city and you'll be fine. And by big, I mean 2,500+
Other than locking your kid in the house with padlocks I’m not sure how you can control them outside of your presence. I know of kids from great families who have kids who became drug addicts. You can church and educate them and be the most loving, involved parents on earth and still have a kid who dies of drugs or alcohol.
True. There are those who slip between the cracks. Statistically speaking, kids from loving, functional, and intact households have a much greater chance of avoiding a life of drug addiction, or one cut short from drug abuse. My warning is for parents asleep at the wheel, or who are completely AWOL
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Made in chyna. Shipped via Mexico over our nonexistent border.
What??? Where did you hear that??? Do other people know about this!!?? Outrageous!
A Fentanyl death a day keeps a vaxx death hidden away.
Clever!
Wrong... Fentnyl in MA , ME and NH is up like 1000%
And it sounds like you would know.
I hope your children die from a fentynl overdose
You know when Trump announced he would seek to have drug dealers get the death penalty, it sounded really extreme to me.
Not anymore.
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There was a number of big busts here in TN, after fentanyl ODs suddenly shot through the roof. Like 80 people at a time were picked up.
Turns out a few big dealers, who were also tweakers, were cross-contaminating their weed and meth with fentanyl, by storing it all in one box, just all tossed in together. Thet then passed this along to a couple hundred street peddlers.
Within days, all the 911 calls started rolling in, and TBI got involved.
This is not going to be a popular comment, but shouldn't we just let natural selection take it's course? If you're going to be a junkie, then if not fentanyl it will be something else.
We should just let people OD instead of using billions in tax money for the "war on drugs" that our three letter agencies are actually helping to smuggle in.
I would instead love to see that money go into making as many rehab clinics as possible so that there is always a detox bed available for anyone strong enough in the moment to make that choice. Addicts are on a nearly impossible road but some people do escape. And if that was your lost son or daughter you would be so grateful.
Kids going to night clubs and raves think their taking ecstasy (mdma) and are instead getting fentanyl. This slides them into an opiate addiction for which fentanyl provides quick answers.
Not so sure. Almost all kids getting a hot dose of fentanyl with no history or chemical tolerance for opiates are dropping dead that same night. Only gateway this drug is leading kids to is the grave.
Heroin junkies and the homeless that have been using for years are mostly switching to fet now since it's 100 times more potent, cheaper, and more readily available.
Haven't seen a substance escalation like this since meth hit the scene in the early 90s and put cocaine out of style overnight for lower class and blue collar Americans.
The comparison to high grade crystal meth is spot on.
And now this:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/new-tranq-drug-spreading-through-puget-sound-region/HFPTTGIJANCLBHOYBA2UVEV7FY/
A new drug is spreading through the Seattle area that is even more dangerous than pure fentanyl.
People are mixing fentanyl with xylazine, a tranquilizer used on large animals like horses and elephants, to create a mixture known as tranq.
Tranq is especially lethal because both xylazine and fentanyl are downers, which cause the heart to beat at a dangerously slow rate. In minutes, a person can slip into a coma and die.
Aw... poor kids. All they wanted was a little safe and legal molly but some big bad drug dealer tricked them and they wound up dead. Awww! Please Mr. Drug Dealer: don't mess up my illegal drug experiences by giving me a different illegal drug.
I've lost a lot of friends and family to this epidemic. All those lives lost while you just sit there smug and satisfied at the death being caused. Cheering on the destruction of our youth as if they deserved it. As if you did all you could, sitting there smug and gleeful at the destruction of innocent life. Just like an effeminate do-nothing leftist.
That faggot doesn't care about anyone but himself.
They knew the street name of the drug.
Fuckin narcissists on this site. Some of these people are exactly like the trannies who are so full of pride, they dance in front of small children half-naked.
Im an asshole too, but man, this dude's take is so shallow, so narcissistic, he's in the same category as these libtards.
How many of us have been touched directly by addiction, family friends, loved ones, or even ourselves? I will bet 1000 that this dude has a nasty addiction that he isn't mentioning, because WE ALL FAIL.
Gross. Disappointed in some of these people here.
Its really pathetic. There's a lot of narcissists on here. I tried conveying the problem to a few in this post and was called "pathetic and weak." Purely narcissist behavior unable to empathize and understand the problem. According to them, anyone who even associates with anyone who ever took a drug (even prescribed) deserves to die.
No better than those libtards we all hate.
Pride is the danger and we are all guilty of it. But the utter hatred and wishing for people to suffer and die is not what I'm about. Frankly I get grossed out by narcissists. Have some in my family and it is disgusting the level of self-absorption, heartless, no empathy these people have.
Not what I'm about. I would rather be friends with a lefty before a narcissist. That's how shitty they really are.
Same, also have some in my family and grew up around them. Some of the most toxic and insufferable people imaginable. They'll destroy lives. These are the same types running things in DC right now.
Many people are unable to empathize. Drug addiction impacts many different kinds of people. And it certainly didn't help that Big Pharma and doctors were handing them out like candy for years while saying they weren't addictive.
They made billions. President Trump says we should give the death penalty to drug dealers. Okay but let's start there.
Many people went to enormous effort to resist taking drugs, to refuse to associate with drug people, to avoid places where they were consumed and sold, to try to tell others that the demand funded cartels and evil pharmaceutical companies. Funny how those folks are shit on for not shedding tears for people who made every lazy, stupid, misinformed and self-destructive choice offered to them and brought this on all of us.
Drug use is the soft underbelly of America. What kind of retard doesn’t understand that it was an inevitable target of our enemies?
Good for you. No one is "shitting on you." But what is your experience with drug addiction?
Simply disregarding the problem as "fuck them, anyone who got addicted deserves to die and its all their fault" isn't helpful.
With opioids, for example, can get addicted/dependent to something without even realizing it. Then when you realize it and try to stop, you encounter the worst flu symptoms (like the flu but 100 times worse) that lasts months. The urge to just take that drug again to feel normal and to be able to function normally is extremely powerful. Many people good people got caught up in that when dealing with painful back injuries. Calling them "weak and lazy" isn't going to solve the problem.
Things like alcohol, caffeine, nicotine and many other things are drugs too that many people are addicted to. I'd bet that many on here insulting anyone impacted by drug addiction has to have their glass of whiskey every night.
Still safer than the fake vaccine. And at least it gets you high
Two milligrams of fentanyl can be lethal depending on a person’s body size, tolerance and past usage. DEA analysis has found counterfeit pills ranging from .02 to 5.1 milligrams (more than twice the lethal dose) of fentanyl per tablet.
42% of pills tested for fentanyl contained at least 2 mg of fentanyl, considered a potentially lethal dose. Drug trafficking organizations typically distribute fentanyl by the kilogram. One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people.
True, we know what fentanyl does and how it works. We know how much is dangerous and how much is safe. Neither can be said for the vaccine
At a parade on Saturday (it is Mardi Gras here) paramedics were trying to revive someone suspected to have overdosed on fentanyl. Also my mom's neighbor son (31) died to fentanyl 2 weeks ago. It's a huge problem.
I find it weeding out the weak.
Let the junkies die, and refocus the funds towards keeping the non-junkie public safe from both the drugs, and the users of them.
If we stopped coddling these people this problem would sort itself out quick.
One thing I think is way misrepresented is that people don’t know what they’re getting. From people I know, they know exactly what they’re messing with. One of them OD’d too
I agree. They know they're buying stepped on junk street drugs.
What else does a person need to know? Even the most low-down homeless junkie knows that drugs you buy on a street corner aren't the reference standard for purity in pharmaceuticals.
They know damned well. It's just that we're supposed to feel sorry for them, because the west has become consumed with performative compassion for every sad sack loser who can present their wretchedness before the public.
If dope heads want it give it to them chancea are good they will not amount to anything, just a drain on society.
The problem is this stuff isn’t killing only dope heads. It’s killing children who think it’s cool to pop a pill, and never know it’s laced with 2mg of fentanyl and kills then.
Im okay with that. Thats the new version of the kid that hopped the fence to fuck with a bull.
Biden did that
Drug wars don't work. They were unable to keep out weed. They were unable to keep out coke. They were unable to keep out meth. They were unable to keep out heroin.
I don'y know why anyone is expecting a different outcome with a new drug that is even more addictive, more powerful and easier to smuggle.
The way the overreacted to ivermectin makes me think they could do a whole lot more about illegal drugs—they just choose not to.
Good take. Underrated comment
^this
I'd be interested to hear what you think would stop it. There have been a lot of good people who have done their level best to stop the avalanche. Alas... it has never worked.
It’s basically legal in Oregon. Not sure it helped given the stats in that article.
I completely agree. But Republicans always torpedo it.
The narcos would simply recruit mules in places where life is cheap. And the parade would continue. Plus we are not going to execute illiterate peasants for carrying an ounce of fentanyl across the border in their assholes.
This didn’t require the /s
They never tried keeping them out. The deep state made money shipping in that poison. And as a bonus killed us
You seem a bit short on specifics.
Did this rapid rise happen in the past 2-3 years or is that a fact we're supposed to ignore?
Been happening for 10 years and heroin itself was already becoming an epidemic for the 10 years before that
And now this:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/new-tranq-drug-spreading-through-puget-sound-region/HFPTTGIJANCLBHOYBA2UVEV7FY/
A new drug is spreading through the Seattle area that is even more dangerous than pure fentanyl.
People are mixing fentanyl with xylazine, a tranquilizer used on large animals like horses and elephants, to create a mixture known as tranq.
Tranq is especially lethal because both xylazine and fentanyl are downers, which cause the heart to beat at a dangerously slow rate. In minutes, a person can slip into a coma and die.
This is what caused me to quit doing coke. I know it’s going to have disastrous effects, but maybe it will cause a cultural shift too—maybe it will curb casual use of drugs like coke and pills.
Understand. Neither democrats or republicans will shut down the border
Saint Floyd would be proud.
Am I the only one who doesn't really care about increased usage? Let all the addicts kill themselves off. Or am I missing something?
OPEN BORDER...
Senate silent.
House almost silent.
White House - giggling.
opium wars, and don't think our kids are safe at school without putting in the work.
Have they thought of sensible fentanyl control? Maybe targeting and controlling assault fentanyl? Registering fentanyl owners? Taking away pistol brace fentanyl dispensers? How about restricting the number of fentanyl injections in a single syringe? I am sure that will all work
Where's the Brandon did that sticker?
I sure wish there was something that could be done about it…..🤡🌎
Brandon did go to Ukraine so I assume he had a big hand in this.
If the war on drugs isn't working then can we stop waging it?
When was it waged? Someone declared it and most of the mainstream public refused to fight.