1387 Arizona rancher George Alan Kelly's murder charge downgraded to second-degree in shooting of criminal alien Mexican🇺🇸🥇 (www.foxnews.com) posted 102 days ago by MasklessMarvel 102 days ago by MasklessMarvel +1388 / -1 Arizona rancher George Alan Kelly's murder charge downgraded to second-degree in shooting of Mexican migrant George Alan Kelly, the 73-year-old rancher accused of shooting and killing a Mexican man on his Arizona property on Jan. 30, has had his murder charge downgraded. www.foxnews.com 211 comments share 211 comments share save hide report block hide replies
That just makes it easier to get a conviction.
In a sane world he wouldn't be charged with any murder, much less PREMEDITATED.
How do you premeditate killing someone who shows up suddenly?
Ohhhh...they'll try to say he had hate for muh migrants therefore he was premeditatively wanting to kill all of them. That's the angle.
Fuck these people. It's 'hate crime' shit once again.
Had the government secured the border, this illegal alien would not have been trespassing.
Lotta different fruit from this particular poison tree.
Illegally let illegals in
Prosecute anyone against it, even people defending themselves, as haters
What a world
Should go all the way up the courts.
The invader was not a citizen and this rancher was protecting the border, his land, and his people.
If they were Red coats, there would be no question about shooting em.
Yeah why do our legal protections extend to an illegal in the first place? This is one of those "a burglar got injured while robbing a home and sued the homeowner and won" situations. Only in America.
Sounds like Canada
somewhere some time he said he would protect himself, his wife and property by force, IE kill somebody, and the government is saying that anybody with a gun is doing just this, premeditated murder, it's their new fuck'n word play
Yep and self-defense in which one is prepared to defend their life is premeditated. Fuckin commie gobbledygook.
masters of semantics and interest rates
masters of semantics and interest rates
I studied an old case once where a man was convicted on two counts of premeditated murder for shooting and killing two teens who broke into his house. Apparently his house had been broken into multiple times prior, likely by at least one of the same teens which were killed. He sat in his basement, gun in hand, waiting for someone to break into his house. Apparently even made personal audio recordings (like a journal) in which he stated he was going to shoot them in the face, specifically in the eye or something like that. And the teens broke in that day and he shot and killed both of them, shooting one of them in the eye as he said he would. Apparently he also had tarps ready and wrapped up the bodies before calling police the next day because he didn’t want to bother the officers on the holiday (it was Thanksgiving day). So obviously some more planning went into that and it’s a different situation but if there was any additional information surrounding the situation like that, that could be why they were attempting to go for 1st degree murder.
Now, I personally don’t believe saying “I will shoot and kill anyone breaking into my house or trespassing on my land” and then doing it would be considered premeditated murder. If I say, “I’ll shoot anyone who pulls a knife on me” is that premeditated murder? I sure hope not.
It's not. Unless you record yourself for hours sitting on a chair in the basement rambling about how much you look forward to killing whoever is coming down those steps. Not shooting. Killing, specifically desiring to end their lives.
It also doesn't help if it's a 17 and 18 year old. With one of them being a woman. Then also being on the same audio tape with her crying and choking on blood. Crawling away from you whilst you're on tape talking about "a good clean finishing shot". And then you shoot an incapacitated woman that is bleeding out.
It's the same reason why the Taco shooting with the dude that shot the robber with the fake gun could get in trouble. Dude is lifeless on the floor, but he still pops a headshot, might be reflexive but there's good clean shoots and then there's executions.
Right of self defense does not actually involve killing others. It is to use whatever force is required to stop an imminent threat to you or others. An incapacitated or disarmed person is equally stopped as a corpse. When you make an incapacitated person into a corpse you're legally committing murder.
The audio tapes are available. Bryon Smith is the dude that did it.
the police arm themselves in anticipation of someone trying to kill them
they purposely go to places where they know violence is likely to occur
they have a whole support system and procedures in place in case they do have to off some dindu
they are totally ready to kill someone
so when some drugged up boogie behind a ghetto car wash at 3:00AM whips out a gat and they splatter him, is that premeditated?
No, but the cops are employed by a third party that requires them to perform that function. You could argue that because the supreme court held they have no actual duty to even respond to a call that means they in fact do choose it, but that same court has also held that it's a special role.
Difference is that the dude did it stupidly.
1: He recorded himself. Never fucking do that! 2: He shot a woman who was incapacitated on the ground unarmed and then called it "a clean kill shot"
In short the idiot did everything he could to prevent himself from arguing self defense.
that does not go to premeditation but you are right, he acted totally stupidly
he should have offed all of them and just walked away without saying a word to anyone
CBP would have assumed it was more cartel violence and that would be it
instead he tried to do the right thing, which is always the wrong thing to do
and why aren't those witnesses in jail?
We are mixing up some wires. I'm talking about the dude that hid in his basement waiting for someone to burgle so he could shoot them.
That does go to premeditation in the sense that he decided that whatever burglar fucked around was gonna find out.
Premeditation in the legal sense merely means that you took an active and conscious decision to do something.
And he's on record mumbling to himself over and over and over just coaxing and saying how he's gonna do it.
That's the problem.
If he had be on tape going "Please just leave, come on there's nothing here to take just leave don't make me do this."
In this specific case all he needs is to keep claiming self defense. There is no recordings of him saying he's gonna pop some beaner's taco lid.
premeditation is based on intent
intent to kill the burglar would be buying a gun and leaving the front door open and putting a pile of cash where it could be seen from outside then blasting them as soon as they walked in, you clearly set out to kill them from the start because you laid a trap
simply buying a gun in case the burglar comes is not intent to kill them because it clearly leaves an option open for the burglar to surrender or run away
the mumbling you mention proves basement guy clearly intended to kill the burglar no matter what
in this case, there is nothing to prove the rancher was not in reasonable fear of a clear and present danger to his life
all we have is word of people who were committing an illegal act and who have a vested interest in the rancher going to jail
That guy actually hid his truck somewhere also to make it look like he wasn't home.
Correct. I forgot that detail as well.
I forgot that whole thing happened until you brought it up! That dude was serious about some murder. When keeping it real goes wrong.
That was a Dateline episode...and he set it up, just like the Asian guy who did the same thing years later (a second Dateline episode). Both of them fucked up by recording their premeditation...
They fucked up by leaving the tapes where the police could find them. Take that shit to a relatives or put them in a safety deposit box until the situation is legally resolved.
This retard user does not know what premeditated means. Disregard this retard and his obscurantist copypasta thread below.
lol, you got buried in the first thread so you start another lmfao
Holy fucking seethe
So genius, if intent to kill and premeditation are the same thing, why the distinction between first and second degree murder, where first has both intent and premeditation, but the second has just intent?
How does someone intentionally kill someone without having an action they intend to do it with, if any decision to use something to kill someone is premeditation?
What's the difference between intent and premeditation in your mind?
You've twisted yourself into a pretzel.
First degree murder requires malice aforethought
If you come home and find some guy banging your wife and, in a fit of rage, grab the gun in the night stand and blow his brains out, that is second degree- a crime of passion
But if you let him get away, go buy a gun, wait for him at the bar you know he hangs out at and blast him when he gets out of his car, that's first degree because you planned in advance to kill him
The real answer here is "it's up to the jury."
The prosecutors will argue that you can premeditate in a short amount of time, and yes that does tend to erase the distinction between first & second degree murder, but that won't stop them from arguing it if they want to.
I mean, does it matter if the guy goes to another room to get the gun after getting enraged by seeing the guy banging his wife? Or does he have to have the gun on him right then? How long is too long? There isn't some magic answer, it is whatever the jury decides it is. And the prosecutor can argue that he premeditated in any amount of time, even mere seconds.
Don't get me wrong, I have real doubts that they could convince anyone that he committed first degree murder here, but it's up to the jury and the prosecutor is basing things on what they think they can get people to agree with. They probably put forward higher charges to screw him on bail and to try to get him to take a plea and are now dropping it because they don't want to embarrass themselves trying to prove this.
But I'm not sure it makes anyone easier to convict because they can have the jury consider "lesser included charges" which here would be different kinds of murder or manslaughter.
it is not up to the jury
the prosecutor brings the charges and he is going to bring those that give him a greater chance of winning
in this case, he does not think he can make first degree stick
i am guessing his original intent was to make an example of the guy but public sentiment changed his mind
What constitutes "malice aforethought" or similar things is a jury question, it's not something the judge or prosecutor can decide in a case. The charges brought are up to the prosecutor, but the jury will also consider "lesser included" charges to avoid exactly the kind of scenario where they think the guy is actually guilty of a lesser crime than the one charged.
I agree, and I even said in a prior comment the other day that I don't see any way of making the charges stick. But that's because most people want some indeterminate "cooling off" period before they call something murder one and the fact that most people think this is why they're not bringing such charges.
But note the danger. Remember how leftists are always redefining words and memeing things like "it's not okay to defend property"? If those ideas reach critical mass and these are jury questions... well, a jury full of leftist brain-rot is going to convict people. See why I keep insisting on the realist position that it is whatever the jury says it is (even when that makes no sense to us)? Because the brain poison is a real danger.
And they do try to meme that it can be first degree even in an instant, because a jury that believed that could convict and nobody could stop them.
This is why our side needs to know that during voire dire, you are the one who decide if you can be fair as they have no real way to question this, you just answer the question that "yes, I believe I can be unbiased" and you're likely to get passed for cause in general.
I think it was to screw him over on bail and put up a strong front so that maybe they can pressure him into a plea bargain. And he did get a $1M bail because of those charges, so they already screwed him on bail. I agree that it's basically posturing.
You completely embarrassed yourself in the last thread, and got some ignorant idiots to upvote you by talking out of your ass.
So I took the time to look up the legal definition. It’s plain as day that I was right about pre meditation not requiring any significant amount of time. There’s nothing controversial about this case being tried as second degree murder, you made up the controversy based on not understanding what second degree murder even means.
You’re a poorly educated retard. Just come to grips with the fact.
He was originally charged with 1st degree murder. "Get off your ass" and look up the statute handshake faggot!
That is not what premeditated means. You watch too many movies.
Premeditated only means you consciously made the choice to kill someone. It could happen in one second, it doesn’t matter. It just means you thought about purposely killing them before you actually killed them.
It’s distinguished from a situation where, for example, you hit someone on the head with a pan, not trying to kill them, and then they die anyway.
Thought OUT or PLANNED beforehand.
Thinking you want to kill someone then shooting them one second later is 2nd Degree Murder.
Thanks for playing, try again tomorrow. If your smoothbrain take was true, 2nd Degree murder would have no reason to exist on the books, now would it?
Damn, you beat me to it.
That's what I get for being longwinded and spending too much time typing =(
Actually, I recalled the information from one of the college courses I took as part of my Law Enforcement Intelligence degree.
I used Google to confirm that the information I recalled was applicable in Arizona, since murder laws are state-specific and, unlike you, I'm not a drooling retard who uses uncorroborated information as the basis for an argument.
Get a refund on your degree. You’re a barely-literate arrogant fucking idiot and you wouldn’t last a day in any real law school. What you received was a crash course for half retarded cops.
You’re confusing premeditation with deliberation, because you’re a halfwit talking about issues you know nothing about.
good point DCP
Here you go you fucking retard.
You’re too dumb to know what any of these words mean, or notice that the definitions you provided agree with me, not you. I’m not going to argue with a retarded child. thAnKs fOr PLayInG.
Well, I can't help but shovel a few more mounds of dirt on you.
While YOU said:
Seems that it's you who severely lacks reading comprehension. What you described is THIRD degree murder, a malicious action not intended to kill, but does kill.
First degree murder: Premeditated.
Second degree murder: Intentional, but not premeditated.
Third degree murder: Malicious act, but not intended to kill (but does kill).
Once again, thanks for playing. C- for effort.
third degree murder aka manslaughter
Sigh. Please shut your mouth you arrogant dipshit.
This is what you said. This is not how it works. At all. This is a retarded analysis. The government is not saying he is guilty of premeditation because he hates migrants. (Wtf are you even talking about?) they are saying that he made the decision to kill, thought about how he would kill, and then did so.
I was simply explaining that “premeditated” does not mean you have been planning to kill them for a while. It means you considered killing them (even for a moment) and then did it. It can happen almost instantly. Any dipshit kid who has taken a pre law class knows this.
States vary on what defines as first degree, second degree murder, voluntary manslaughter, manslaughter… it’s all way above your pay grade. But one thing is for sure: you have no idea what premeditated means.
According to your OWN QUOTE you pulled:
You don't form intent and consider the act you intend to do in one second, moron.
Otherwise second degree murder would have no reason to exist, because second degree murder IS ALSO INTENTIONAL. You are conflating intent with premeditation. They are not synonyms.
PRE-MEDITATE. To consider an action carefully before you do it. It's right there in the fucking word.
You are a 100 IQ midwit who thinks he's a genius. Try humility for once.
So, ban all assault pans? 🍳
Ban fully auto armor-piercing assault eggs too.
This is a great example of both weaponized ignorance and weaponized stupidity.
You could have easily read something other than Wikipedia and realized that this information was wrong. For example: https://www.shouselaw.com/az/defense/laws/homicide/first-degree-murder/
You could have exercised your brain for a few seconds before posting and realized that murder planned out in advance would be considered much more serious than a decision to kill made in the heat of the moment. Have you ever heard of a "0th-degree murder"? No? Then how could a deliberate-but-spontaneous killing be 1st degree?
Even if you failed at the aforementioned intelligence check, surely you should have realized that legal parlance wouldn't utilize the word "pre-MEDITATED" to describe any sort of spontaneous act. Do you have no idea what the word "meditate" means?
You are clearly too stupid to belong here. Go back to your Democrat peers.
Midwit syndrome / Dunning Kruger effect
The word you’re looking for is “deliberation” not “pre-meditation” you retarded half wit.
Deliberation is required for first degree. Pre meditation for second degree. Intent for voluntary manslaughter.
Now please, shut the fuck up you retarded pretentious child. You don’t know the first thing about this subject you faggot larping lawyer.
premeditation means malice aforethought
If you come home and find some guy banging your wife and, in a fit of rage, grab the gun in the night stand and blow his brains out, that is second degree- a crime of passion
you did not plan to do it, you just reacted to the situation
But if you let him get away, go buy a gun, wait for him at the bar you know he hangs out at and blast him when he gets out of his car, that's first degree because you planned in advance to kill him- it is premeditated
that's all very nice but the point is that there was no malice aforethought in the first situation
for there to be malice aforethought there has to be an intent to kill, an intent to inflict serious bodily injury or an extremely reckless disregard for the value of human life
they guy did not come home with the intention of finding the guy doing his wife and killing him
TPTB want to make an example of this guy as a warning to others who might try to interrupt the flow of Biden's drug and trafficking money
so the prosecutor is brining in "witnesses" who are criminals with a vested interest in lying
the media is, of course, spinning it like he was out hunting hapless immigrants, came along a group of them and just started blasting away
the guy did not grab the gun when he left the house with the intent of killing people
he knows the dangers out there and took it for self defense
i am not believing for one second that at least one of those did not have a gun or that no aggressive moves were made toward the rancher
there are too many stories to make that believable
there was no malice aforethought, things just got out of hand and the rancher got scared
You still have no idea how any of this works.
yup, you're a liberal
you think you are right just because you call someone else wrong
Exactly. This is kangaroo court bullshit.
The cartels own the cops and the judges, and the prosecutor they own the whole county!
Hell still die in prison if convicted. He did nothing wrong
It will get to the point that there will be no reason to surrender to police after defending yourself against a criminal.
I mean even cops are already being tried in the public arena for defending themselves or stopping people from resisting by using approved police tactics. I'd say we're there.
It's all meant to slowly degrade and destroy our country. We are forced to sit here and watch it be raped and murdered in slow motion.
It’s certainly at the point were you don’t call them after handling a situation on your property.
Much easier to dig a hole.
That was his problem in the first place. Nobody was going to report the criminal illegal alien as a missing person. He would have just quietly disappeared and rotted away. The two criminals who came forward saying they would testify against him likely only did so because the police got involved and they either saw it as a way to get their own criminal activities overlooked or to cover their own asses because they were the ones that actually killed the other illegal.
He might get killed in county jail if they don't give him bail. After all, "if you mess with one bean you get the whole burrito" is a thing.
From the story: "Kelly, 73, was released from custody this week after posting bond on Wednesday."
Still better watch his back. The media put a target on him.
Of course. I had the same thought. The Left will have paid activists doing everything they can to elicit a reaction from him to taint the jury pool even further.
Side note: Funny, isn't it how when Patriots like ourselves get jury duty it's never for cases like this?
do you actually think they verify jury lists against p.win membership?
No...I don't. I do think it's odd that in cases like this Patriots never seem to get on to juries, except maybe in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, and it wouldn't be hard for them to stack a jury pool with a bunch of Leftists. I guarantee there were no Patriots on the Fentanyl Floyd jury but we know there were rabid Leftists. If we want to get Patriots on these juries, we'll have to start lying better during voir dire. That's if Patriots manage to sneak into the jury pool at all, instead of having their time wasted getting stuck on purse snatching cases.
how do you know patriots never get on juries?
it's not like people's politics are listed on the tax rolls
in that part of AZ where towns have been ravaged and property destroyed, there are not going to be too many sympathetic farmers and ranchers
this is hard working rural America, not downtown San Fagcisco
the prosecutor will have a hard time getting the jury he wants
Never heard that one
I grew up in San Diego. I saw it on T-shirts.
Fuck I need one
It's extra fun to wear when your a 6'2 viking looking white boy. My Mexican buddies used to laugh their asses off
nothing wrong with hunting dangerous trespassers on your land
jury nullification - let's hope
if a jury convicts him AZ needs to be nuked
He's going to be convicted it's already in the cards
Needs to be downgraded to littering
on your own property?
Good point. Sorry sir, charges dismissed
Needs to be dropped, and him given a medal for doing the gov's fekin' job.
how about upgraded to giving him a medal.
"defense of the border"
super rare medal!
So why is he waiting in jail? Alec Baldwin never spent 5 minutes behind bars.
He’s a landowning white man from a red state and is not an elite globalist. He’ll be railroaded, eliminated from the system, and no one but his family will remember him.
It’s how the game is played.
Sad. You're right, but let's hope it's different this time.
Yes, surely this time out of the unending litany of preceding instances will be the one to buck the trend
Alec Baldwin is a powerful man in an industry that brings a lot of money to the state where he committed his crime
New Mexico worked hard to make itself look cool with Breaking Bad
Not good enough. Dismiss the charges
And award a medal for service to our nation
Appoint him to head of the CBP
The state has 2 drug smugglers testifying on their behalf saying they weren’t armed. They went into mexico to get their testimony. I think there needs to be an investigation into the local government in Santa Cruz county and see who’s on the take from the cartel.
Who's not ... if the secretary of state is allegedly on the take everyone is compromised
where the fuck is Wheels Abbott?
Probably in Texas, where he is the governor. This is Arizona.. Their governor is Ducey, I believe.
No it’s Hobbs who stole the election from Lake. If that hadn’t happened this would be going differently.
That's right. Still, it isn't Abbott
i know that but why isn't he, the staunch defender of the border, speaking up for this guy?
Here’s an idea and i know it’s gonna sound crazy, if you don’t want to end up dead, don’t illegally break into another country and sneak across someone’s private land while threatening the landowners rights. 🤷♂️
He should be paid a bounty by the federal government.
Fuck them. Release him... oh wait.. AZ is controlled by money laundering through deeds and mortgages politicians and cartels.
…and faggot Tranplantofornians
I'm stealing this term
No chance of a riot. “Muh job. Muh friends. Someone else will do it.” This man will be resigned to the dustbin of history like the J6 prisoners.
Yup. We shit on doomers all the time, but at some point we need to recognize that they are kinda right.
Where was the rioting when Chauvin got thrown into a dark cage for the rest of his life for doing his job?
Where was the rioting when the McNaulty brothers defended themselves against an innocent jogger who just tried to kill them?
America is already over. Most cuck Americans will just turn on Monday Night Football and vote for Desantis and pretend they’re winning because teachers can’t rape their kids until 4th grade.
This is a surprisingly insightful comment for someone who otherwise presents himself as an angry, retarded child.
Do you actually understand the implications of this, or is this just a case of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day"?
edit: fixed a typo
You dont even know what pre meditated murder means. Humble yourself and stop projecting you retarded angry child.
Cartels bought the charges. They want no one intercepting their mules
Should be no charges
If you are going to fire your weapon, aim to kill. His main problem is he left witnesses that will lie through their damn rotten ass teeth for a deal.
He should have put them down and tossed their asses in the Rio grand or whatever the most convenient place would be.
All of this is bullshit. All of their intentions were criminal in nature. He had a reasonable fear for his life and family. This is another reason why the government never wants you to fully own your own land.
Tldr; dead men tell no tales.
if they had found a pile of roaches wiped out by an AK, they would have assumed it was because of some beef between the cartels and moved on
You can be rest assured that this is probably the norm. The fact you don’t hear about it should be testimony, for every story you hear about killing criminals who lived to tell the tale, many more go unreported and buried.
Probably true. I still feel bad for that man. Can't even protect your property in the US. I'm sure just shooting the one has probably been tormenting him much less taking them all out. If it were me and I made the choice to have land on the border there would never be witnesses and I'm accurate up to 700 yards (so far).
I've actually considered getting some land there because you can get a massive amount of land for around 30k.
Next time just bury them and keep your mouth shut!
How about downgrade to self defense and give him a medal and a parade instead...
Plus a huge financial reward.
Archived link: https://archive.is/fuHz9
FOX is still enemy media. Note that they refer to the illegal as "a Mexican national" and the gang of illegals as "eight unarmed migrants." Fuck off.
has anyone figured out how to use you?
There have been a few theories floating around, but they were nothing but shit.
don't give me that crap
i read the real story
the guy that thought them up is the ultimate troll
Fuck them. They should give this guy a medal.
the down grade is because this guy he shoot was on his proerty with no conection with him, so murder would be very hard to prove, he's already admitted to shooting him so not it's up to him to prove why?
HE SHOULD BE JUST LET GO OF, but they will drag him through the dirt
Did he admit to shooting them or just shooting at them?
From the article: "Kelly’s attorney has said Kelly did not shoot and kill the man, but Kelly acknowledges that earlier in the day he fired warning shots above the heads of smugglers carrying AK-47 rifles and backpacks on his property."
either or, it doesn't mater to them, that's why they are reducing the charge, oops I didn't mean to hit him, they just want to hang him as bad as Kyle just to say we don't have the rights to protect ourselves
It doesn't matter to them, but if during his ill-advised phone call to the police he didn't actually say, "I just shot someone" (or words to that effect) then they'll have a hard time proving any intent to kill. Then all murder charges are off the table. Assuming of course there's at least one juror with a brain.
It sounded initially like he actually admitted to shooting the criminal illegal. If his lawyer's defense is that he never did, I hope he's doing so because Kelly never actually claimed to have shot anyone at all, which is what it sounds like based on actual, reliable media sources. The lying prosecution's argument is based solely on the word of unvetted illegals who came forward two weeks later and, in my opinion, are more likely to be the murderers. However, "law enforcement" won't do their due diligence and look closer at these scumbags.
sentence: Medal of Freedom
Illegals aren't people. They are not US Citizens, nor here on any kind of VISA, so they should not be considered under the Rights and protections of the Constitution, or the Laws of the land. When it comes to illegals, it should be a free for all. Come at your own risk. You could be enslaved, murdered, raped, etc. DON'T COME!!!
they are armed foreigners who come into the country with the intent to kill Americans
how is that not an invasion?
Now, switch places with everyone that charged, arrested and has him on trial.
How is self defense against armed illegal drug dealers murder. Oh right a hispanic judge and activist DA. That's fine. Now everyone knows to kill them all and dump the bodies in the desert.
I think if the governent takes and charges somebody for a crime and looses they must pay thriple to the person they charged and it must be paid by the judges and prosecutors not the TAX payers, and that goes for every charge they file, so they hit you for 6 different charges and they get one to stick like J-walking instead of murder or resisting arrest instead of murder they pay you triple and you only have to serve 1/10th of what they give you for those charges.
This would drop a lot of these bullshit charges from ever being filed even the left would like this one
Should be given an award.
Just like the left/RINOs kept branding January 6 an insurrection, everyone needs to refer to the southern border as an invasion. Just defending.
Not good enough yet, Keep going....keep going.....
Arizona just a substate of california
Is the FBI going to try their BS ballistics analysis to prove the round came from his gun?
Elections have consequences
Dude should be labeled a hero. Shit! He was protecting himself and his wife from an ILLEGAL invasion!
He’s going to be cleared in days if this cartel rico evidence on everyone in Arizona keeps breathing.
It's a crime this man is charged with anything. Any one of us would've done the same damn thing. I guess we have to save one bullet now for ourselves when the Stasi come for us. Dirty commie bastards!!
Why is he being charged with anything? Doed Arizona not have a law where you can shoot people on your property?
why are non-citizens, let alone criminals, allowed to be witnesses?
Donations through givesendgo covered his bail. I would think donations will come to make sure he is able to get a good lawyer to appeal any sentence he gets.
And if they lawyer makes use of the docs that woman presented at the Election Hearing, they may be able to get a legit judge or a mistrial.