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Progressives have always been fascists.
Even Noam Chomsky refuses to lie about this fact.
Edit: I love how triggered progressives get with these facts.
Edit: I love how triggered progressives get with these facts
Kills their muh Nazi narrative, and forces them to confront the actual fascist staring back at them in the mirror.
Yup. It's why they think down votes matter here (they live in a world of vanity), why they think lies work (that's what their inner monologue is, if they have one and many don't so they're far easier to lie to) and why they use personal attacks rather than defend the policies.
They've got nothing but damnation waiting them.
in before the ignorant start coming in an arguing how the nazis were not socialist
edit: and as predicted they showed up in force. Bet many of them also believe the holocaust wasn't real too. Too bad they are still wrong on both accounts.
"Socialism" was different back then, no free gibs to illegals, taxes still low enough to make work more profitable than living off welfare, animal and child protection laws in contrast to all the degeneracy we see today.
Also no central bank causing yearly inflation and eternal debt, benefits for white families having many kids in terms of home and car ownership.
You can cry muh socialism all you want but that makes you look like an anti white retard. Every western country of today is more socialist than NSDAP's Germany ever was.
found another one. Socialism is not some monolithic thing that is the same everywhere its implemented. What has been done in places like Canada is different than what is done in England and Australia for example. The Nazis were no different. They rejected the marx and bolshevik versions for their own unique version but the core tenants are undeniably socialist in practice and in writings. All you have to do to see this is read some of the writings of hitler and other members of the nazi party, their actions with land and business owners and even read contemporaries who studied Nazi Germany at the time. The truth is all out there if you wish to cure your ignorance. This bullshit that the nazis were not socialist nor left is just flat out historical revisionism. If you have any knowledge of the western left its clear why they would want to do this.
That is exactly what I said. Hence why "muh socialism" is a retarded argument.
they were still socialist though.
Yes, just like modern day Europe and modern day America.
But now we have fucking degenerates trying to molest our kids, herds of illegal immigration, ridiculously high taxation and inflation, too much corruption and a whole bunch of other fuckery.
Things where a lot better back then.
They weren't. The term socialist is only in the name. In fact, NatSoc allowed property owners just like here in the US now, they pioneered animal rights, and they pulled their country out of hyperinflation to become a powerhouse within a few years. All every one of you can say is "muh socialism" in the name and that seals it for you. How ignorant. But don't worry, your dear capitalism is run by bankers and is doing the same thing that happened to Germany here in the USA and all of Europe now, wait till 2024 and 2025 and you see how much basics cost compared to the nonexistent increase in wages. Perhaps when your kids go hungry because you can't afford the basics you'll realize that you've been had you ignorant boomer. I bet you think the Fed is a great institution don't you.
A private business in Nazi Germany was “private” in name only. The moment the owner stepped out of line, his company was seized and either unofficially nationalized or handed over to a more reliable party member, which was essentially the same thing. Look at Hugo Eckener of Zeppelin, who got the “non-person” treatment from the goosesteppers, or Hugo Junkers, who was killed in his home by the gestapo (allegedly he “died of natural causes” right in front of them) after the company he built was snatched out from under him because he didn’t want to play ball. Both of these were before the war started, so no “wartime needs” excuse. Other German businessmen saw this and took a hint (the fact that Hitler repeatedly professed his hatred of capitalists didn’t go unnoticed, either). Like all forms of socialism, your rights disappeared the moment you stepped out of line.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone could course correct Pfizer right about now? No? Yup that's free market capitalism, able to sell you poison and call it a cure and gaslight everyone who's against the idea.
They did pull the party out and then by 1937, were going right back into it.
We are conflating the original Socialist party which started to die out before Hitler, which the Fascism of Hitler thar took it over when ever he assumed power.
The original party was inspired by Boshlevism. I'm sorry. It just started losing over time and by the time Hitler rose, it was a pretty weak party and voter bloc. That's because Hyper inflation was essentially fixing itself by that point and the more well informed knew this.
The original Hyper inflation was actually on purpose and initiated by the Weimar to destroy their currency value on the exchange market. This was to rob the value of the exchange so that it soiled the Reparations Payments so ordered bybthe Treaty of Versailles. They needed to do this because the Treaty restricted so much of the export trade function of Germany that the payments were beyond the total GDP value that their economy could support. It would have permanently bankrupted the nation and thus the vultures in London and Paris would have basically 'bought' Germany for pennies on the dollar, the German sovereignty would've been destroyed.
During the Hyper inflation, the original party was still promoting socialist agenda but failing as the circumstances for Hyper inflation made their approach pointless. The era was not conducive to hearing such boshlevism whenever they reason for their plight wasn't corporate greed or elitism locally, it was international vendetta after a brutal war.
It was pushed by the Frankfurt school which is where all the Communists of major renown came from. If you read any Commie books like I have, a lot of the turn if the century writers will eventually make their way to Frankfurt.
When Hitler arose, it was purely on the backs of Germans who had suffered the economic sacrifice and were simply impatient (honestly who can blame them) to see life return to something besides depression. However by 1930, the the Treaty's requirements were nearly all reversed. The payments were ordered stopped years prior as it was succeeding in pulling the French 'Frank's down with the Duetchmark and was collapsing Frances economy as well. To regain some of their monetary value, France sold back the Reinland which was the area of South Germany that contained most of the industrial base at that time.
Stupid decision on the French in hindsight, but since most of that land was populated by Germans, its not like they'd get it to work anyway. However with the re-addition of the Reinland, jobs started slowly coming back as inflation eased.
When Hitler arose in 1933, he was already beginning to lose popularity. The Weimar, a council of old men whom undoubtedly were tired of accusations and yelling from the masses who just suffered through the inflation in order to throw off the yoke of British and French control - capitulated to Hitler's demands after Hitler and his brown shirts had their fill going full Leftist. Lighting shit on fire and assaulting people. They hoped to quell him by playing appeasement and thus GAVE him the chancellorship role. To deal with the unrest and the fact that the global wave of depression started again, they gave him 'emergency power' to significantly sway the population that there was some one else to blame but them.
And they never needed to do this. 1932 was the highest voter support Hitler would ever see. He had actually peaked in that year and the NAZI party was again on the verge of decline by the time the Weimar reacted. Had they just enforced the law and kept the fucking faggot in jail, and kept going forward, the Nazi's would've continued to lose out and WW2 would've never have happened, nor another German depression, nor anything else that the idiot brought upon the people.
But instead, they handed it to him on a silver platter. Upon the death of Hindenburg, Hitler would never relinquish his Emergency powers that were intended for only 6 months.
With such powers and the move to be announced 'Furher', Hitler installed a state command economy much like Stalin or Mao at the time. Using the foundations of Fascism as outlined by Giovanni Gentile's book with Benito in Italy, Hitler installed a system that was little different that what Communism of the day proposed. There's little difference between Fascism and Communism at this time. Back then, Communism was still based on the Material Dialectic proposed by Marx, and so focused much on the material and economic circumstances of power. Fascism was very similar, arising from very similar thought. The difference was the views on cultural identity in which Giovanni argued that establishing such an identity was based in religion, and that a nation must install a homogeneous religion and embrace it. For Italy, this meant Christianity and for Hitler? Oh I don't know... read Mein Kampf 1 and 2 and tell me... I'm pretty sure it's the same...
This was the only real fundamental difference.
By 1936 however a new form of Communism was rising which involved Cultural Marxism, which is a Marxism inspired dipctrine based on Cultural Hegemony, a book written by Antonio Gramsci. This book married well with Lenin's concepts of what would become Cultural Marxism, a synthesis of Gnostic and Hermetic belief systems that resulted in a gnostic motivator and a hermetic Praxis.
Hitler was privy to this and while it was similar to his own fucked up belief system, the fact of the matter is that it was a rivalry. Or... 'my Fascism is better than your Fascism'. But of course, you cannot call the Commies, Fascists, because if you did, the jig was up when people would realize that you're effectively the same thing so... yeah...
Hitler ended up crashing the economy within a couple of years. He fired 3 different economic advisors because they were literally telling him to stop spending money they don't have. The mother fucker was going full Joe Biden about just using a Nazi form of 'Build Back Better'. These proclamations built things like the Autobahn and new Aerodromes, new factories INCLUDING VOLKSWAGEN, and the constant money printing to pay for this was causing inflation to return (big wow, much surprise...).
By 1939, Hitler had convinced his Generals that they needed to invade Poland despite their explanations that if they started war too soon, they'd be destined to lose because they don't have enough stock piles fuel, oil, weapon systems, ect. However by the 3rd advisor, Hitler finally realized he fucked over the last 5 years and was trying to correct it with 'Lebensraum', which is similar to what Putin is doing to Ukrain. 'We are going to annex these border lands because the people are actually German/Russian ethnically and they want it!'
However to give Putin credit, he's not looking to enslave the people like Hitler did. Hitler was literally looking to slavery by this point and his version of Crimea, Austria, was an example of that. Austrians willingly sided with Germany and in his ever so greatful open arms, Hitler enslaved them. Needed them for cheap labor because it was the only way to try and stop the inflation but still keep building the war machine HE COULDNT AFFORD. Because just like Russia, he had sanctions at this time. He had no China to do business through on exports like Russia does today, so slavery was the best bet.
And a lot like the Communists, indoctrination of children was already recognized as the best way to install a new Culture so guess what, Austrian schools converted to Hitler youth centers had pictures of Hitler that they prayed to everyday. Women would required to get pregnant to ensure future population growth in that same system and the men were put to work in slave conditions in mines and other hard labor.
The government provided everything for them BUT YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW HITLERS FASCISM IS NOT THE SAME AS MAO'S OR STALINS COMMUNIST REGIMES, THEN YOURE A FUCKING RETARD.
The invasion of Poland began as economic pressure still mounted. At that point, Hitler figured the best way forward was to take new labor and land by force, and be in a position to siege towards modern day Georgia where more Oil would be secured, fueling the war reserves.
Hitler was fucking dumbass.
You are a real idiot. Everything you wrote is completely incorrect. Fascism and National Socialism are not the same things, and both are completely different than Marxist Socialism aka Communism. Bolshevism is a Jewish invention, funny how in your entire wall of text you failed to mention that. I wonder why.
"A National Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. Our adopted term "Socialist" has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property, true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, individual effort, or efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, and achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property and that I am an atheist. Both charges are false." - Adolf Hitler, September 28th, 1930
The nazis were a unique form of socialist, rejecting Marx's and Russias vision of it, but still socialist. You can deny that all you want but like many here you would be flat out wrong if you do.
Yes they allowed property owners (many socialist countries do) and they allowed business owners to own businesses but they were not free to do what they wanted with that property or business. The state was king, the nazis controlled the state, and they dictated what you could do based on what was best for said state, even in business. The needs of the many outweighed the individual in Nazi Germany. This is just one example. If you want more there is tons of reading you can do from hitler and other leadership in the nazi party that reinforces the socialist angle even more.
EDIT: we got a taker on the "nazis were not socialist" bit
Yeah, the state enforced that the business owners and movers and shakers first and foremost took the consideration of the FOLK into account rather than PROFIT. How do you not understand that this is better? In Capitalism, PROFIT and $$$$$ are above the welfare of the people, it will never change. Look at East Palestine and how the companies downplay the disaster in hopes of it not costing them as much. Obvious smooth brain. This would have never happened in the 12 years Germans were free because even at the highest levels of the corporations the people wanted good things for their country and people. Our corporations from the Auto industry to Pharma, do not even consider the welfare of the country and the people what so ever. Only profit, and welfare of the people so long as it is profitable, which it never is.
and we found the commie. Get bent. Capitalism has done more good raising people out of poverty and self reliant than any socialist or communist implementation EVER.
Holy fucking shit you're dense. Watch Europa The Last Battle and then get back to me. Seriously, give it a watch. You obviously have your heart in the right place, but you are just working with half the information. If you're not willing to watch that and invest the 12 hours to watch this documentary, then you are failing your ancestors, and what a shame.
does not change the fact that the nazis were socialist commie.
I find the idea that the nazis were saving europe from communism laughable at best. I also find the views presented in that documentary about the holocaust disgusting as well. Let me guess that you are in the ignorant crowd that believes this never happened
It didn't happen. You have obviously only watched Hollywood movies and read books written by Jews about this subject. Sad really, shitting on your ancestors like that when you are so ignorant of what actually transpired. Give Europa The Last Battle a watch because you are working with false information. Hows is capitalism working out for you now that corporations have so much power consolidated at the top in the hands of a few? Are you enjoying the fact that all our politicians are bought and paid for, and all the media is owned by the same corporations that use it as a propaganda tool to get you to consume their products? Are you happy that our people were coerced into taking the death jab and NOONE is held responsible? Yeah, introspective is a thing you know.
Only progressives say this. They try and distance themselves from their extensive similarities in policies, their collaboration before and protection of Nazis during the war. Not to mention protecting them after the war.
Only leftists and progressives say what you're saying.
At least Von Braun was useful. He wasn’t as bad as he’s popularly made out to be these days—of course, he wasn’t as innocent as he liked to claim, either.
Heisenberg was a shameless ass-covering piece of shit.
Rocket men didn't design policy or change nations. They made weapons and space travel. Not really who I'm talking about. He's just the most famous.
But he also understood morality, from what I've seen him saying.
You’re right, though he did go along with it. At the end of the day, Von Braun just wanted to launch rockets into space, and unfortunately wasn’t too picky about who funded him to do so. By the same token, he wasn’t a hardcore nazi, either. He wasn’t lily-white, but he didn’t need to hang at Nuremberg either.
What was the quote? “I make sure the rockets go up. Where they come down is not my department.”
Bunch of people in the MIC right now thinking the same thing.
Yeah, you just say stuff without any proof. "Just trust me bro doesn't work".
Nope. I extensively cite what I say and say what can be backed up.
Direct opposite of what you're doing.
Gnash those teeth some more, ilhan!
Defend progressives harder daddy
Hate the Jews?! Not their political donations....
Nazi's had plenty of guns. How else were they going to fight a war? Throw swatsika shaped throwing stars?
Those guns saved a lot of women and children I've been told by German refugees, who would have otherwise been raped and killed by Mongolians and other communist degenerates invading Germany, just like back in the Wiemar days.
The nazis were smarter and more insidious than commies when it came to gun control.
All privately-held firearms in Germany were registered with the government. A nazi party member in good standing could have all the guns he wanted. But if you were less “politically reliable” or came from an “undesirable” ethnic group, then you were a threat to public safety and would be disarmed by the authorities. After that, they could and would do as they pleased with you at their leisure.
As any sane country would.
If you arm the enemy too you're gonna end up with a unsafe shithole where everyone is forced to be armed at all time for their own protection, where kids can never go out alone, shootouts happen all the time and nobody trusts anyone.
I know this would be seems as very controversial by American standard, but for Germany it worked great.
Yeah, zero resistance as the einsatzgruppen loaded the cattle cars.
So to be clear, you’re good with government disarming citizens who don’t toe their party line exactly? Which, by the way, is completely incompatible with the US Constitution…
Just as fine as you are with not allowing prisoners in all the "correctional facilities" and jails to have guns.
And what makes you think the Wiemar republic had gun laws similar to the US? That's peak retardants, the Wiemar republic has very strict gun control and didn't allow anyone to carry.
But I guess that's okay because they where commies and trannies... See this is why nobody takes America seriously anymore.
So you’re good with the government making that decision? Cool, so you won’t complain or resist when ATFags are busting your door down and shooting your dog and/or wife. Got it. Real sound logic you have going there.
And I didn’t say anything about Weimar Germany. That’s just you trying to move the goalposts. What I said about nazi Germany is objectively, verifiably true, though.
ADL works double shifts I see. Pathetic.
Nazis didn't ban guns people. Under Hitler hand guns were actually easier to obtain. What the Nazi party did was make owning a rifle illegal for anyone who wasn't enlisted.
When Bernie Sanders was still a thing I'd ask his supporters which one of his policies was NOT also a nazi germany policy.
They'd either respond with something about the night of the long knives as if the free healthcare and college ended the next day (it didnt) or misunderstand my question altogether and list nazi policies Bernie didnt have.
Nazis were socialists with some nationalism sprinkled on top. Had to be german to get the socialist benefits.
And to think theres a lot of people out their that really believe he convinced his country to go to war and genocide people "because he was really good at public speaking."
Nazis and Democrats are equally evil
What did the jews do to garner German's disdain? Seek the answer. I dare ya. I'll give you a tip...look out your window.
The noticers aren't going to like this one lol
Progs going hard in the paint in this thread. They get so triggered, so easily.
God bless Germany.
This is gonna piss off the goatfuckers 🤣 they believe their deception is working