No it doesn’t. I did it until my free subscription ran out, I was already making very cool images. You could too, it’s extremely easy. People try to make it seem complicated, by adding parameters to prompts that don’t actually do anything. Just a little bit of photoshop to edit what the AI creates, and you too can be a Rembrandt.
It does take a learned skillset. I've been using gab.com/ai to generate Midjourney-v3 images and probably couldn't generate images like OP. Maybe he's using an 'oil paint' input or specific artist. While it's a real skill right now, it'll be phased out or evolve pretty quickly
I played around with mid-journey for the free 20 images or whatever, and it's beyond easy. Put in key words, put in art terms, wait, done.
To say it's on the same level as digital art is ridiculous. There are artists that take days and weeks to produce real art using photoshop and other tools. AI generated art is generated by the AI, the user is simply supplying the key words.
www.gab.com/ai allows you to generate 500 images per month, using mid-journey v3. It's pretty snappy. I'm looking into running img generation locally for more control. I played around with 'vqgan', you can google to see the types of images it produces. I should look into more recent tech though
sorry, AI isn't art -- its manufactured images -- don't mean to shit on the person who created this, it does look very cool, but if you want to be an artist, put in the effort to actually be one. This is meant at constructive criticism, not an insult.
I'm not trying to shit on him -- seriously! I'm just saying, if being an artists means that much to you, then you should be absolutely sincere -- with yourself -- about what you want to communicate, and that should involve every aspect of what you do, including the medium. I'm not saying that it can't be done using AI, as the medium, per se, but it's a BIG strike against you. If you just want to create images, then hell yay, have fun.
agreed -- the idea of using AI to truly create, not just have it make images for you, is interesting, but it just doesn't appeal to me to put the effort into exploring it
Yeah, it's a tool, great for rapid prototyping ideas to explore concepts. I could see this tech being used to improve the quality and imagination when "live-action" movies are developed from cartoons or games. It'll allow execs to engage more in the creative process and nail-down the special effects look they want.
There is an arguement outside of here if these neural neworks (I hate calling them "AI" because people conflate what AI is with many different things) constitute "art" or being an artist, so I can see why the thread got heated.
IMO, it does not. It's the new Antares AutoTune. There are VFX guys working with stable-diffusion frame by frame to turn green screen footage into them of anime looking people... It's interesting but if we overuse it, the quality of actual art will suffer dramatically.
All I hear in public is people listening to auto tuned "rap" (rap / singing?) which is 100% garbage bullshit. I haven't heard anything compelling.
These neural network and ML tools for images have the potential to do that for visual medium I think. Unless people posess for themselves a modicum of self control.
Do you remember being a musician was akin to joining the circus but bands actually practiced and composed on the road and wrote amazing stuff? They were actual near masters of their instruments and craft? That was quite awhile ago but alas, no more.
I'm sure there is legit uses -- I'm not attracted to it though. Too gimmicky, insincere, and a lot more like plagiarism. With that said, it can create cool imagery
AI is trained, by actual artists work. It's one of the topics of IP as AI is influenced by those who create, is it AI's work or the influencer? A lot of trouble in crediting actual artists when it comes to AI. Coaxing AI to create something is a creation in itself as well, it's a really complicated subject with no real good answer especially for those whose influence is creating new work they're never attributed for, or receive compensation for.
lol but I disagree. With that said, Trump is missing out on appealing to artists for votes. There are so many ways he could, but he doesn't seem to really understand artists, other than the popularity of them, and an appreciation for their creativity -- but I mean truly understanding artists as a demographic. Trump's been negatively lampooned by a shit ton of artists, and yet, I think he has a path to appeal to them. But, I'm done for the night.
then you think a man can get pregnant too? That's subjective, lol. True, people always argue art is subjective, and it is, but the idea of anything being art because it exists is not what any serious artist would call art -- otherwise, you could argue, nothing is really art because EVERYTHING is just the same matter so how can it be separate as anything, such as art, or a dog?
not a good analogy though. The AI is actually taking images from other artists to create a montage, for all practical purposes, which is more akin to plagiarism. The sculptor didn't take from any other artist. Now, if God ever makes an intellectual property right argument in court ......... he would win of course lol!
I understand your intent. It's a nuanced slope. I'm not arguing at all that people can't do this. I would just, perhaps never, consider them an artist. If they want to be artists, then they should be -- but pour yourself into it. We've seen what happens to creativity when an entire generation of "film makers" have just copied others -- the work is SHIT. We use to be the powerhouse of film making -- not anymore!
Have to agree with you friend. I'm a miniature artist and it's like someone comparing what I handmake myself with Chinese shit that's made with blow moulded plastic. Non-creatives don't really get it. Your point about the current makers of film is absolutely spot on. Human creativity is what separates humans from other animals.
authenticity is VERY important in art. I'm not just talking about art as in people who paint for the hell of it, etcetera. I mean for art that really has to make it in the market to be able to fund an artist to continue to work. People will buy an artists work because they are are certain of an artist's authenticity.
I will always pass on manufactured wood lol -- working on something with African Blackwood right now, as well as Purpleheart and other cool woods for different projects. But I don't think I'd pass on silicon lnockers!
Yep good points. Great art is much deeper than mere aesthetics. Good luck on your woodshop projects! Personally, Im more of a black walnut fan, love the grain.
lol, not seething, just saying lol. I wish our population would have a better understanding of art -- we use to be a powerhouse in creativity but our country has gone to shit in that realm as well as others. Everyone wants to "be" an artist, hardly anyone puts in the effort to truly be one -- hence the reason even almost ALL art students graduating with degrees, even Masters, never actually become living artists.
lol I worked as a graphic artist at a very young age and then progressed through a lot of other professions, all art-related, so I've literally made a living off my creativity my entire life -- no teaching jobs, no part-time barista jobs lol. It's hard, statistically. Very hard. However, people I've worked with have told me often that they wish they had my job -- I NEVER once replied I wish I had theirs!
A great definition of being an artist I heard once was from a well-known guitarist (and no, not gonna drop the name). Just off the cuff, one day when we were in his garage and collaborating, (him audio, me visual) he said, "I'm glad I make a lot of money doing this, otherwise I would be broke while I'm playing my guitar in the garage.)
The point being, if you're going to make it as an artist, you're going to have to be one -- always. The statistics of just getting lucky are even more depressing.
Just look at all the "pop" artists -- especially musicians -- damn near all of them are bought-off jacks that have no creative control over their own work! To me, that's just being someone else employee!
Well I learned a very long time ago that if you have a natural ability at something that you can be successful doing it. Some things like art and music are a mixture of natural ability and luck. Some people make it, but very few actually succeed at it. Those that do make it are usually connected or have real talent in the craft. I just couldn't believe the amount of arguing that took place for ten years, but once the starving artist working night shift at a hotel gets rebuffed by a girl for his choices in life and suddenly he actually wants to earn money. I've known music writers, producers and the talent in the country music industry, so I have seen some things. I still wish that my Dad was around to tell me what actually happened at the party he attended with Porter Wagner. All I know is that Porter said to him don't tell anyone what happens tonight. I do know that coke was involved though. LOL
funny, I want to know what happened that night now! People who have never really been around working artists don't have much of a clue as to what it means to be an artists. But, so what, what can you do. What I do care about though is the bastardization of the art industry by monopolistic wealthy people who actually deny creative people having a voice -- like ALL of today's "pop" artists in every medium!
I have the best job -- my entire life being creative, I come and go as I please, I wake up and go to bed when I please, NO ONE tells me what to do! And NO ONE can cancel me because I don't give a flying fuck if someone likes my work or not!
This is excellent, pede. That POTUS Trump appreciates your work is the best flattery. Well done!
I think more than anything the energy, the sensation exuded by the illustration embodies the scope of his heart and mind as to this War. It shows his investment in it. He is calling on the aid of Almighty G'd to carry through.
Fuck yeah!!! Congrats Pede!
LIKE A BOSS
LIKE. A. BOWSE. - James "Privacy Jimmy" Murray
Wow the GEOTUS reads us. Love it.
Looks like he picked it up from ConservativeTreehouse?
That's one of my favorite places for a good read and great comments.
ConservativeTreehouse is where it’s at. Receipts for days
Should be mandatory reading
QFT
KUDOS OP!
Cool! You painted it or it's an AI prompt?
AI midjourney
Love it🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Impressive! I like the context. While Trump is in front leading, he’s still one of us. Especially vs. Joe “the fake working man”.
Nice.
Try StableDiffusion yet? Can train your own "models" and not be tied to someone else's idea of how AI art should work
It's AI but it takes real study of the AI prompts and methods to tell it how to do a great work of art.
Interesting.
No it doesn’t. I did it until my free subscription ran out, I was already making very cool images. You could too, it’s extremely easy. People try to make it seem complicated, by adding parameters to prompts that don’t actually do anything. Just a little bit of photoshop to edit what the AI creates, and you too can be a Rembrandt.
Since POTUS lurks here.. Just saying we love you...
Congrats on the key words you entered for AI to generate that art!
It does take a learned skillset. I've been using gab.com/ai to generate Midjourney-v3 images and probably couldn't generate images like OP. Maybe he's using an 'oil paint' input or specific artist. While it's a real skill right now, it'll be phased out or evolve pretty quickly
I played around with mid-journey for the free 20 images or whatever, and it's beyond easy. Put in key words, put in art terms, wait, done.
To say it's on the same level as digital art is ridiculous. There are artists that take days and weeks to produce real art using photoshop and other tools. AI generated art is generated by the AI, the user is simply supplying the key words.
www.gab.com/ai allows you to generate 500 images per month, using mid-journey v3. It's pretty snappy. I'm looking into running img generation locally for more control. I played around with 'vqgan', you can google to see the types of images it produces. I should look into more recent tech though
sorry, AI isn't art -- its manufactured images -- don't mean to shit on the person who created this, it does look very cool, but if you want to be an artist, put in the effort to actually be one. This is meant at constructive criticism, not an insult.
Yea, I've seen op and his art on here before. I thought like you too. Op said he was a disabled vet that can't use his hands like he use to.
I'm not trying to shit on him -- seriously! I'm just saying, if being an artists means that much to you, then you should be absolutely sincere -- with yourself -- about what you want to communicate, and that should involve every aspect of what you do, including the medium. I'm not saying that it can't be done using AI, as the medium, per se, but it's a BIG strike against you. If you just want to create images, then hell yay, have fun.
It's best to think of AI or these neural networks as a tool to actually do art.
They're like plugins or can be apart of a workflow but I agree with you.
Majority of modern music is made by committee these days and has been for quite some time.
agreed -- the idea of using AI to truly create, not just have it make images for you, is interesting, but it just doesn't appeal to me to put the effort into exploring it
Yeah, it's a tool, great for rapid prototyping ideas to explore concepts. I could see this tech being used to improve the quality and imagination when "live-action" movies are developed from cartoons or games. It'll allow execs to engage more in the creative process and nail-down the special effects look they want.
Here's a good example for the concept of an ice queen, if disney ever wanted to make a live action 'Frozen' movie: https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*jpaNv1hJ0ATGb-yIHws2dg.png
There is an arguement outside of here if these neural neworks (I hate calling them "AI" because people conflate what AI is with many different things) constitute "art" or being an artist, so I can see why the thread got heated.
IMO, it does not. It's the new Antares AutoTune. There are VFX guys working with stable-diffusion frame by frame to turn green screen footage into them of anime looking people... It's interesting but if we overuse it, the quality of actual art will suffer dramatically.
All I hear in public is people listening to auto tuned "rap" (rap / singing?) which is 100% garbage bullshit. I haven't heard anything compelling.
These neural network and ML tools for images have the potential to do that for visual medium I think. Unless people posess for themselves a modicum of self control.
Do you remember being a musician was akin to joining the circus but bands actually practiced and composed on the road and wrote amazing stuff? They were actual near masters of their instruments and craft? That was quite awhile ago but alas, no more.
Yea,I'm not slamming you, I feel the same. I just didn't consider the legitimate uses for AI art.
I'm sure there is legit uses -- I'm not attracted to it though. Too gimmicky, insincere, and a lot more like plagiarism. With that said, it can create cool imagery
It is art
It IS art - it's someone elses art.
AI is trained, by actual artists work. It's one of the topics of IP as AI is influenced by those who create, is it AI's work or the influencer? A lot of trouble in crediting actual artists when it comes to AI. Coaxing AI to create something is a creation in itself as well, it's a really complicated subject with no real good answer especially for those whose influence is creating new work they're never attributed for, or receive compensation for.
nope
If GEOTUS truths it, it's art. End of discussion.
lol but I disagree. With that said, Trump is missing out on appealing to artists for votes. There are so many ways he could, but he doesn't seem to really understand artists, other than the popularity of them, and an appreciation for their creativity -- but I mean truly understanding artists as a demographic. Trump's been negatively lampooned by a shit ton of artists, and yet, I think he has a path to appeal to them. But, I'm done for the night.
I don't know, looks like art to me. An art is subjective last time I heard.
then you think a man can get pregnant too? That's subjective, lol. True, people always argue art is subjective, and it is, but the idea of anything being art because it exists is not what any serious artist would call art -- otherwise, you could argue, nothing is really art because EVERYTHING is just the same matter so how can it be separate as anything, such as art, or a dog?
The image was always in the AI, the OP just "brought it out".....
vs
The (beautiful sculpture) was always in the marble, the artist simply "brought it out"...
not a good analogy though. The AI is actually taking images from other artists to create a montage, for all practical purposes, which is more akin to plagiarism. The sculptor didn't take from any other artist. Now, if God ever makes an intellectual property right argument in court ......... he would win of course lol!
I understand your intent. It's a nuanced slope. I'm not arguing at all that people can't do this. I would just, perhaps never, consider them an artist. If they want to be artists, then they should be -- but pour yourself into it. We've seen what happens to creativity when an entire generation of "film makers" have just copied others -- the work is SHIT. We use to be the powerhouse of film making -- not anymore!
Have to agree with you friend. I'm a miniature artist and it's like someone comparing what I handmake myself with Chinese shit that's made with blow moulded plastic. Non-creatives don't really get it. Your point about the current makers of film is absolutely spot on. Human creativity is what separates humans from other animals.
its like saying manufactured wood is real wood. its like saying silicon knockers are real boobs.
they have worth, sure... but they aren't the same.
authenticity is VERY important in art. I'm not just talking about art as in people who paint for the hell of it, etcetera. I mean for art that really has to make it in the market to be able to fund an artist to continue to work. People will buy an artists work because they are are certain of an artist's authenticity.
I will always pass on manufactured wood lol -- working on something with African Blackwood right now, as well as Purpleheart and other cool woods for different projects. But I don't think I'd pass on silicon lnockers!
Yep good points. Great art is much deeper than mere aesthetics. Good luck on your woodshop projects! Personally, Im more of a black walnut fan, love the grain.
that is beautiful wood. Good luck to you too pede
I understand the seethe.
lol, not seething, just saying lol. I wish our population would have a better understanding of art -- we use to be a powerhouse in creativity but our country has gone to shit in that realm as well as others. Everyone wants to "be" an artist, hardly anyone puts in the effort to truly be one -- hence the reason even almost ALL art students graduating with degrees, even Masters, never actually become living artists.
Son: I want to get a degree in graphical design.
Me: So let me get this straight, you have no natural art talent and you want to be an artist and try to make a living doing that?
Son: Yes, I want to work in the gaming industry.
Me: ???
Over ten years later...
Son: Dad, how do I get started in IT?
lol I worked as a graphic artist at a very young age and then progressed through a lot of other professions, all art-related, so I've literally made a living off my creativity my entire life -- no teaching jobs, no part-time barista jobs lol. It's hard, statistically. Very hard. However, people I've worked with have told me often that they wish they had my job -- I NEVER once replied I wish I had theirs!
A great definition of being an artist I heard once was from a well-known guitarist (and no, not gonna drop the name). Just off the cuff, one day when we were in his garage and collaborating, (him audio, me visual) he said, "I'm glad I make a lot of money doing this, otherwise I would be broke while I'm playing my guitar in the garage.)
The point being, if you're going to make it as an artist, you're going to have to be one -- always. The statistics of just getting lucky are even more depressing.
Just look at all the "pop" artists -- especially musicians -- damn near all of them are bought-off jacks that have no creative control over their own work! To me, that's just being someone else employee!
Nonetheless, good luck to your son!
Well I learned a very long time ago that if you have a natural ability at something that you can be successful doing it. Some things like art and music are a mixture of natural ability and luck. Some people make it, but very few actually succeed at it. Those that do make it are usually connected or have real talent in the craft. I just couldn't believe the amount of arguing that took place for ten years, but once the starving artist working night shift at a hotel gets rebuffed by a girl for his choices in life and suddenly he actually wants to earn money. I've known music writers, producers and the talent in the country music industry, so I have seen some things. I still wish that my Dad was around to tell me what actually happened at the party he attended with Porter Wagner. All I know is that Porter said to him don't tell anyone what happens tonight. I do know that coke was involved though. LOL
funny, I want to know what happened that night now! People who have never really been around working artists don't have much of a clue as to what it means to be an artists. But, so what, what can you do. What I do care about though is the bastardization of the art industry by monopolistic wealthy people who actually deny creative people having a voice -- like ALL of today's "pop" artists in every medium!
"get a real job" REEEEEEE
I have the best job -- my entire life being creative, I come and go as I please, I wake up and go to bed when I please, NO ONE tells me what to do! And NO ONE can cancel me because I don't give a flying fuck if someone likes my work or not!
Times are changing!!!
they are -- but its still not art lol
Oh shit it sure is GREAT JOB patriot!
Holy Frijoles!
Cool.
This is yuuuuge. Way to go.
That is AMAZING! You must be feeling so fantastic right now!!
Cool image, but all of these AI created pieces of art look the same.
This is excellent, pede. That POTUS Trump appreciates your work is the best flattery. Well done! I think more than anything the energy, the sensation exuded by the illustration embodies the scope of his heart and mind as to this War. It shows his investment in it. He is calling on the aid of Almighty G'd to carry through.
Congrats Pede, well done. You did a lovely job with the AI, it evokes real emotion for me. You must be over the moon right now. :)
MAGA!
Excellent. Well done.
congrats. im super jelly
Very cool, congrats!!!
Congratulations!
Midjourney's art, not yours homie.
So excellent. Whoop! Love the expression in our president's eyes, btw. Keep making art, and upvotes.
Who are the people in the crowd behind Don representing ?
muggles
OP, extra nice work for triggering the dowvote homosexuals in this post. KEK.
This isn't Reddit, retards.
Well, when you're good ,you're good.
When you're retruthed by GEOTUS, you're F***ING FIRE!!!
Congrats lol - GEOTUS likes your work, well done!
You are aware you cant make money from AI art now?
I've heard of people doing it. Best to think of the "AI" or neural network models as tools, or a plugin is in a DAW and use it to go from there.
Yooooo that is badass!!!! Very happy for you!
I’m surprised Midjourney will even let you generate “Trump” images. Guess it’s not a liberal diarrhea-pit like ChatGPT (yet).
NICE! 🔥🔥
Wow!!! That’s awesome
Hell yeah!
Congrats, but now MidJourney is frantically recoding it’s algorithms to never produce another flattering of Trump again
It's an excellently drawn picture but it does give me vague zombie-invasion vibes.
Yeah it was my early work
I like it, great job!!!
This will save future elections, No doubt
Why not. It's good art.
I came for the snark... I stayed for the ART!™
Hello Fren,
I remember when your cavalcade of original artwork first dropped and how I was saving all the pictures to my phone LOL.
Congratulations and much respect.