I was hired through a recruiter a week ago. I spoke to Hr for the new hire orientation she asked about my vaccine card and I told her I have a religious exemption ( she said nothing). A few hours later the recruiter who submitted my application and also has a close relationship with the CEO btw… called me. He said he made a mistake and was supposed to ask my vaccination status pre interview and if I said NO vaccine he wasn’t even allowed to submit my application. WELL HE DID NOT DO THAT and is now telling me to get the vax or the employer will terminate me. He also OFF THE RECORD” told me there’s a class action lawsuit from employees who were fired “it’s hush hush “ he told me. He is saying this Novavax vaccine doesn’t have aborted fetal tissue so I should get that COVID JAB because it doesn’t interfere with my religious belief. Apparently the NOVAVAX SHOT IS BEING TOUTED AS THE “Christian friendly shot” This is a six figure job and I haven’t worked in a year! 🚨🚨UPDATE THEY FIRED ME YESTERDAY 🚨🚨
Inform them in writing that it’s illegal to require you to undergo an experimental medical procedure as part of terms for your employment.
Don’t budge, Let them fire you.
Get it all in writhing.
Go do something else for a while and get ready to sue the shit outta them. The public perception continues to change in the right direction and you will be ready to collect. Don’t worry about finding a lawyer, they will be lining up when they realize how much money there is to be made on these suits in the near future.
Or tell them to write up an agreement that they will compensate you for any side effects you experience from taking an untested, unproven experimental vax, and pay for medical, lost wages, pain and suffering, etc.
Don't go through with it even if they do, but it will probably call their bluff.
Also... Since its being demanded of you that you be vaccinated from a communicable disease for the safety of other employees, you should demand to know if employees have any other communicable diseases like AIDS
This is also a good one. Aids/hiv and other communicable stds. HpV 3tc etc
Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 333 (1970).
United States Supreme Court ruled that the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the US Constitution protects not only religious beliefs and practices that are part of a formal, organized religion, but also those that are held as a matter of personal conviction and that are not part of any particular religious tradition.
The Court held that "religious beliefs need not be acceptable, logical, consistent, or comprehensible to others in order to merit First Amendment protection" and that the government cannot "compel affirmation of religious belief" or "penalize or discriminate against individuals or groups because they hold religious views abhorrent to the authorities."
Your personal held moral values constitutes your Religious Freedom!
This is not government that is discriminating against him. It would be government if they ordered this company to do this and that was the reason company was asking him to do it.
Your rights are not given to you by the government. They are granted by your creator and no entity may take them away.
Religious exemption also doesn't have anything to do with fetal tissue. You don't have to explain yourself or what church affiliation etc.
Doesn't matter, another person has no right to violate your rights either. ALL rights have a threshold to the point which they violate the rights upheld by another. To which point "government" (example: judge, police, etc.) is required to either intervene or reinforce...which brings back to what government is allowed to do. Your rights are secure to the point at which the "government" believes you are prohibiting the upheld rights of others.
The argument that "1st amendment doesn't protect you from me" is garbage. Mainly because there are shockingly broad range of things I can get away with to uphold my rights when you attempt to infringe on them and the government cannot intervene. Companies do not have the right to infringe in this way as has been determined by religious freedom. If they allow it at all, they must allow it in entirety.
Yeah....but you don't have a right to a job with a private company.
I filed for unemployment, after being fired for refusing to wear mask. And the state of Colorado accepted it when I used a religious exemption and my religion explained was essentially that I have fucking American freedoms and I’m going to stand up for them and they bought it.
Ayyyyyyee thank you for a clear explanation fren! Gonna copy this into my notes for the future
None of these are 'good ones'. Stop getting into the weeds with these people. They'll always have another BS answer.
"I wasn't informed that experimental genetic therapy was a requirement for this role. Pay me a severance or I'll have to go to a lawyer"
You're right. I just didn't take it ( the vax ) that's all. My job was against it and flat put told everyone that they were not going to make anyone take anything. I got lucky. Very lucky. It could have been me asking about religious exceptions
Or the flu.
And hepatitis and herpes
It will definitely call their bluff. They are looking for top down obedience and no friction.
I had to battle the HR at my last employer and they were trying to deny my religious exemption, but I fired back a salvo of questions including “please tell me what degree of liability ____ assumes in adverse reactions. Is _____ Inc giving me medical advice?”
They answered every question but these 2 and all of the sudden my exemption was approved. No company wants to be on the hook for this cluster fuck, they just want you to shut up and jab up with nothing connected to them.
That works if you're already employed. My wife had an interview about a year ago, everything was going great and wanted to hire her. Then the last question was asking her vax status. She asked if they took exemptions and the lady told her she didn't know because they hadn't even done one. Mind you this is a really high end resort. Lon story short she didn't get the job because no jab. Ridiculous
Happened to me, too.
Top candidate, but HR insisted on death shot.
Policy was not evenly applied and not in writing.
I wanted the job but I like my life more.
We were pretty bummed about it. Would've saved commute time and a substantial pay increase oh well. Now we are both self employed.
OP stated he was hired a week ago and was communicating with HR about new hire orientation.
I understand that. He slipped thru. The policy was adhered to for my wife. Hence not getting the position.
Those robots aren't worth working with.
What's VAIDS worth to you? Would you squirt some VAIDS into your heart for $10k. $100k. $100M. How much is myocarditis? $5M. To wake up dead tomorrow, how's that sound?
Never get the fucking shot unless you are suicidal
Yeah they can compensate your dead body. Smart!
Ask them if workers comp covers you getting hurt thru the vac.
Also...in the USA, court precedence states that "religious freedom" is freedom of thought and philosophy....it DOES NOT require a organized religious institutions or pre-established verified framework.
Your moral values constitute your religious freedom.
So long as they do not infringe on the freedoms of another, they cannot be mandated against (as that would then be an infringement of yours by someone else's).
Personally I applied by staying the importance of prayer to my life and my belief that God did not want me to take the shot.
It keeps it vague and there are no loopholes like of a vax claims no babies were murdered in its making
I told them “God told me no” while praying about if I should take it or not. 😊 they had absolutely no response and I got my exemption
They want you to quit, don't.
So many people quit over this stuff in the past and don't have any leverage to sue.
If they fire you, you'll have proof. Work hard, follow everything else, but that one requirement.
I don't know that I would do this specifically, but I would pay to have a lawyer right something up and have it delivered from said lawyer. Maybe something more along the lines of "you fucked up, I don't have to do shit. If you pursue this matter any further, there will be litigation."
I second that legal advice is the best way to go. I got help from a service called Legal Shield when I had problems with this. Before that I contacted about 20 law firms and not one would help me against my university.
I'm not associated with it other than being a customer, but it's an affordable way to get legal advice.
Clarifying note: Legal Shield is NOT a law firm, and employs no lawyers. They are just a MIDDLE MAN that connects you to a lawyer interested in your case, and via the agreement they have with law firms give you limited free advice, and discounts on actual cases.
Lawyers for anything? That's good to know
Especially after you were hired without needing it.
Don't even take a covid test
I do wonder about the tests. I took a bunch of them for work (required them weekly) before I quit that dump.
Those swabs are all made in China.
I never understood why a virus that is deadly from up to six feet away requires that you dig a swab deep into your nasal cavities to test if you have it.
..or your anus
Dont even buy their premise.
The 'tests' have no value.
The Novavax vacine used aborted fetal cells in its testing. Novavax is now denying that it used the aborted cells but there is a paper trail that shows they were used.
Sir this is 2023
As far as the law is concerned, Jesus still matters and is recognized as a decent excuse in 2023. For now.
yes, and it means just as much now as it did then. kinda like ill wrong to murder regardless of norms, same with monkeypox
None of them have the tissue in the vaccine. They used it for testing, though, so you can use that in the exemption.
Either way you can say it was used in the development of the vaccine.
You don't need a religious exemption. This is the folly people are falling for. You don't get to outline what my options for exemption are.
Testing AND development. The J&J used it directly in the manufacturing of the drug.
It’s like rat poop in cereal, there is an allowable quantity that finds its way into the final product.
Additionally, If aborted babies are utilized to test the ‘treatment’, or in any other way related to said ‘treatment’ than it’s no savior of mine.
Nancy Reagan says "Just Say No"......
Whether they used fetal tissue testing is irrelevant, though. It's nice to be able to add it as an objection, but it's not required. They're not entitled to know the precise logic (or lack thereof) you're using in determining taking experimental drugs is not in alignment with your religion.
I asserted reprogramming my immune system with experimental drugs is not part of God's design and therefore I wouldn't abide it. It's also extremely important to point out your exemption requires the company to provide little to no special accommodations. (I work from home, so there was literally nothing they had to do special for me.) If they still reject the religious exemption, let them fire you, save all the documentation, then get a lawyer.
It's not used in the development. Which means no abortive tissue makes it in you. Very different than saying the testing method was unethical so you don't want to support them
The fact that aborted fetal cells were used in testing is all the reason needed to not get the shot when using a religious exemption. Makes absolutely no difference if it is in the vaccine or not.
In the eyes of the law, it does. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying you can't claim you suddenly have a religious objection to things tested on abortive cell tissue but NOT apply it to anything other than the vaxx. It becomes obvious you're just avoiding the vaxx. If, instead, you swear off all medicine that is produced by companies who test on abortive cell tissue... well you'd have an air-tight religious exception case. You also wouldn't be taking 99% of things you probably already take, because big pharma has been doing that for half a century now.
Yup. Doesn't matter though. Would you drive a car that burned dead baby parts to run?
Those aren't 'getting into you' either.
If he's morally opposed to something that has been tested on abortive fetal cell tissue, then they probably need to be living an amish lifestyle. That's how the Biden administration is disputing all the religious exemptions. If they object to the TESTING, then they point out all the drugs they take that DO use that testing. Objecting to the inclusion of tissue like the MRNA stuff does is a whole different argument and fairs better in court
Fine. Tell them you don't aspirin any more either. For the same reason.
"Yeah, no one knew that you ghouls used baby parts to test all these drugs before. Now we know"
You clearly have missed the point
Lmao this is where you flop your big unvaccinated cock on the table and say SCHLONGED
thats a classic me move
Lmao they'll even tell you it's "tasty" lolololol
Username checks out.
What’s fishy to me… is HR hasn’t said anything officially only the recruiter has. Btw they flew me out to headquarters for their NSM at significant cost. I am well into my employment.
Ok, I got a fairly large settlement from pretty much this situation.
One: Claim religious exemption, find a good template, make sure it works with other vaccines. My religious exemption was based on the Hippocratic Oath, Nuremberg Code, and Geneva Convention with a (true) oath to God that I would uphold them and that it violated consent in medicine to answer that question (I work in medical science). Do this in writing.
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: Read the civil rights act and title 12 for definition of religious beliefs. It includes, "non theistic beliefs held with the strength and conviction of traditional religious values." Claiming a moral objection to informing them based on coercion is what I did, and won.
Two: Document everything, save every email, record every conversation (secretly if you are in a 1 party consent state). Download their webpages, specially where they list their "legally compliant" covid policies, as their actions will likely differ from it.
Three: Make a time line with references for every action, event, and email.
Four: Never say you quit and always say you are willing to work. If they try some bull shit (like they did with me) claiming that you "withdrew your employment" show up and be ready to work as scheduled and document it.
Five: Attempt to rectify it through their HR department first. Cite CDC current guidelines that state vaxxed vs. unvaxxed should be treated the same. Ask them to clarify why "reasonable accommodations" cannot be made.
Message me with questions.
Also, never threaten or imply that you will go to a lawyer or something. Always be 100% eager to work and be expressly willing to work within accommodations, never be mad or angry. Smile and be as polite as possible even when they are being condescending liars. Also, every time they mention a false statement like "you withdrew employment" politely and immediately correct it. "per your previous communication I would like to clarify that I did not withdraw my employment."
I got 6 months salary + some.
This is the best advice.
Except the 'never threaten to go to a lawyer'.
There are ways to do that. And you should ALWAYS do it.
For example, "Well, I'm not quitting. You can fire me without cause if you want, I'm prepared to go down that road. It's up to you guys. I'm here to work".
Best advice. I did the same thing with both federal and private employer. Worked both times
This guy fucks.
Not many people get that, but I lol'ed
How can I get ahold of you? I’m in medical device selling into hospitals.
You can personally message on this site. Are you mobile or desktop?
Click the little “bell” and that will take you to your notifications page.
Then at the top bar (underneath trumps face and logo) there should be “create a message”.
Finally, you will put in u/footinmouth as your message recipient and then fire away!
Let me know if you have questions/get lost
To send a message from a mobile device you can also click the username from a comment, then click the magnifying glass 🔍 (upper right side.) The next page will show their point score. Under the users point score it says “send a message.” Which is clickable.
I'll direct message you tonight after work when I get on my desktop. We can talk on discord or something.
This may be a tough field to get a pass on the vaccine requirement. Assuming you need to actually spend time in the hospitals, it may not be up to your employer whether you're allowed in or not, and if you don't have in-person access to your purchase decision-makers, and your products' competitors do, your sales results will be poor. From your employer's standpoint, this may be a case of "unable to perform job functions".
Literally just ignore the request.
I was told I had to do mandatory annual diversity training or lose my job and I haven't done it in 5 years.
They keep messaging me, and I just say "OK yeah I'll do that". Then I never do.
If they ever follow up, I just say oops yeah I'll sign up for the next one.
In the past couple of years I have realized the power of ignoring.
Signs on the store front requiring masks - IGNORED
Employee chasing me around, "sir you need a mask" - IGNORED
Wife's employer requiring her to get weekly china virus test - IGNORED
Little league liability waiver - IGNORED (I plan no doing this, I just forgot)
Batting cage liability waiver - IGNORED
It is the way. Ignore as long as you can. My head of HR is literally from the World Economic Forum and I have been fantasizing about going toe to toe with that asshole.
There is a vaccine/negative test mandate in our travel policy. I will not even reveal my vaccination status to them.
My previous boss told him (HR) to get fucked with a rusty chainsaw before he quit in front of the board and CEO.
I have scheduled vacation every fucking time my job tries to fly me anywhere and it always gets approved. One time they moved the team building event several times, so I moved my vacation several times.
If they eventually refuse the vacations and crack down, I will simply not go, or 3 days before the event, I will tell them I am sick and it is covid. I may even provide them with a positive test (a photo of one). They will still have no idea of what my vaccine status is.
I will not reveal my status and I am certainly not getting "vaccinated" they can fucking fire me (they wont, I am in high demand and they throw retention bonuses at me). Fuck it if they do, I'll leave.
I got the biggest retention bonus today that I've ever had in my life. I work in Pharma and am unvaxxed.
This is the way
Yeah I have been ducking it for years. Literally nobody aside from the automated emails gives a rats ass
Have you tried responding to the email with UNSUBSCRIBE ? lol
Same here. I and the rest of my team are what we in IT call... Fuckin Busy and have no time for bullshit 7 hour long video Mashups for diversity equity and inclusion... none of our team has completed it but we are like I said Fuckin Busy so no time for useless tasks.
Yep, no fucking time for that shit. I ignore computer policy signing and tons of other shit too.
Yes I actually read the diversity and inclusion statement lol
*mandatory anal diversity training
Apparently you can now shit in one of those lab testing boxes and mail it in to HR to complete you mandatory anal diversity training requirement.
This was the tactic I used when we were writing my husband's religious exemption. Multiple religious reasons for not taking it, and specifically citing the similarity to the mark of the beast in case they claimed there were no fetal cells used in development. As you say, there is nothing they can do to refute that belief.
Especially since their action specifically prove your assertion to be correct. You can’t buy and sell without a job, or be a member of society. Brilliant
Bingo. I left several paths. Akin to unclean dietary beliefs.
Personally, I say you shouldn’t budge. Let them fire you. If this was a condition of employment they should have notified you ahead of time.
And that’s the problem. The recruiter and the company screwed up.
You can sue them. Psychological damages could be huge.
Fuck that guy, lawyer up and record everything.
Don’t take the vaccine.
No job is worth it.
Also, it doesn’t work anyway.
Oh, it works perfectly! just not in the way we were told.
People think it's not going to require sacrifice to live through this period.
Stay strong. The day of retribution and vengeance will come, and there will be no mercy.
Tell them you’ll sue them for “fraudulent inducement of employment” if they tell you to take the vax or lose your job.
Nah, at this point talking to them about anything is just a waste of breath, asking questions, getting everything in Writing, and preparing to sue them is the best way....
We really need to push for the removal of Warning Labels, so we can easily Identify the Very Stupid....
dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy.
Yur fuckin right! I'd stock coolers at the Arab store before I'd let these goons penetrate me with the rainbow juice.
Paying taxes that wants to kill the population isn’t fun either. Death is permanent but I am all for seeing patients are dying from the jab putting on vests and going to the people who lied to them or forced them to getting the jab and taking some of them with them.
The Outlaw Josey Wales.
It is just like talking to cops - don’t do it. Your religious exemption is between you and your God. They don’t need a name, they don’t need specifics, they don’t need to know about before or after. All of those are violation of US Code. They only need to know that today you won’t get a vaccine because your God told you not to.
Yep. I said O prayed about it and God told me not too and it would be a violation of my deeply held moral conviction.
Yeah, don't get into the weeds with them.
University tried this by retroactively expiring everyones existing religious exemptions a semester after the coof shot was mandated (they started requiring the flu shot a year orso before the coof shot, I said no thanks and got an exemption). When resubmitting exemptions they made a new requirement that "a dialogue must be had with the person after they submit their exemption request" which I'm positive was intended to trip people up so they could deny them. I recognized this immediately and ensured i stayed firmly in religious territory, declining to answer the questions they asked since I had already told them why I was requesting an exemption. I helped a bunch of other people write their exemptions and nobody was denied. I would have left uni if they said take it or you get the boot. Fuck those cunts
Yup, just keep bringing them back to the basic premise. Don't get into details with them.
There can be many personal reasons for obtaining a religious exemption. Aborted fetal tissue is only one.
Not wanting to be a faggot is another
Exactly. You don't have to provide a breakdown of your beliefs
Fuck a "religious exemption". Still playing by their rules. Tell them to fuck off.
And you can change your reason at any time.
Don't take the vax.
Everything will be fine if you stay strong and keep fighting. It should anger you to no end that they are using income and livelihood to force people to get the jab.
Mark of the beast
Obviously, don’t get jabbed with anything labeled covid vaccine. Just say no thank you and document on a legal pad date time and conversation and if your state laws allow recording without the other parties consent record everything.
Record it anyway... whether the "state" "allows" it or not.
Hire a lawyer to write a letter to HR. This lets them know you have counsel and are prepared to fight this in court. They are already fighting one lawsuit; they are probably not apt to fight two.
(note, this might not work in a Right-to-Work state)
They are in CA and I am an at will employee. That being said nothing that I can see in the employee new hire packet states I was required to have the vaccine. I believe that’s why they had the recruiter call me V a email or phone call from HR. Something tells me I have opened them up to more litigation or potentially helped the other lawsuit by mistakenly being hired without a vac card.
That's a very strong position to be in.
Try to research that class action.
Then you have two choices (maybe more):
go to the employer and flatly refuse starting out with that condition of your employment. Name drop the law firm. Let the employer know that you can contact the lawyers representing the class action if they fuck with you
Go to the lawyer right away and get them on retainer. I'm sure they'd love to fight to keep you employed as it would help their other case.
I’m having issues finding the actual lawsuit but I’m looking.
Is the recruiter a contractor? Even if he’s an employee, he is most likely not in a legal position to terminate your employment. Kind of sounds like he fucked up and is trying to avoid the consequences.
If it were me, I would force them to fire me and get everything in writing along the way
Yes. And apparently he’s is relaying everything to HR. I’m getting my ducks in a row before I reach out to HR via email Officially
if you cave just join the dems because that's what you're doing.
Talk to this guy. Religious beliefs aren't strictly about the contents of the vaccine. He used to have a free letter to send for religious exemptions. It covered every angle. Make them fire you he might be able to help you there too.
That's the other problem. They can fire you in PA for any reason they want.
No legal requirement to be consistent, just believe it violates your faith
Here's the exemption letter I liked:
"Therapeutic proportionality is an assessment of whether the benefits of a medical intervention outweigh the undesirable side-effects and burdens in light of the integral good of the person, including spiritual, psychological, and bodily goods."
There's a PDF link on that page that links to the sources.
Tell them you had a dream and your dead grandfather said an angel told him to tell you that God did not want you to take the clot shit. Or similar - whatever works by you. Religious, specific to this shit, can not be disproven.
I told my ex employer that I had objection on telling them either way, as it was the NAZI thing to do and to assist them in the process would be harming other objectors and that I would feel shame before God if I did that. More or less religious. I also jumped ship to a no-mandate job as soon as possible as I now viewed my mow ex employer as evil.
"In all he says and does, man is obliged to follow faithfully what he knows to be just and right. It is by the judgment of his conscience that man perceives and recognizes the prescriptions of the divine law: "
No need to make up dreams. It's simply a sincerely held belief that the clotshot is harmful.
I bet if you put in a requirement that the company puts in writing that it'll cover any harm suffered from the clotshot they'd drop it in a hurry.
Nah, just say “No.” so sick of everyone claiming “religion” on all of this. It’s an experimental drug that does not work (in it’s claimed fashion) and we should deny this all on principle.
Except what if it wasn't an experimental drug that doesn't work? What if it was a tried-and-tested drug that did work? They still shouldn't be mandating it.
I was in this situation as well and in the end, I just told them God told me not to take the shot because he would protect me. I was worried about follow up questions and this seemed like a solid strategy to keep it as simple as possible and its not like they could ask God lol. They followed up with several questions along the lines of Did God also tell you not to take any other vaccines? I said nope just the Covid one. The questions were contradictory and full of traps looked like a team of lawyers wrote them. I am glad I kept it simple with the God spoke to me strategy. 3 weeks later they approved me. Lol my wife told me I was a dumbass for going this route and to just use a template which might have worked too but this is what worked for me.
Should have made it all vaccines, though. Gonna be tough to pull the same shit when the next outbreak drops. And with all trust in the medical establishment being destroyed, you're likely not going to want to take that one either.
Yeah. I said I don't take flu shots or any vaccines as it would violate my deeply held moral belief. God told me after much prayer and contemplation and through many signs that I should not take it.
“Bodily goods”, that sounds kind of funny. I like it.
My body is my temple therefore I must use the highest level of discretion concerning what I put into it. I can't tell you what you need to do but I must at least tell you that I suspect all vaccines are harmful. I refused vaccine mandate and never got fired. YMMV
It’s not about aborted cells. It’s your body, and maybe you believe “with the strength of traditional religious values” to not put your body at risk by taking a medication for a sickness you don’t have. Your belief does not have to be tied to any specific religion or practice. It’s a moral / deeply held personal belief. Nothing more, and they have no right to question you.
Let them know you would obviously consider taking a proven medicine to treat it if you were sick, but it’s wrong to take an experimental drug as a preventative or to appease an employer with a misguided policy.
I thought we’d be done with this BS by now.
Sounds to me like they had you sign a contract under false pretences.
Open and shut case if they fire you and it goes to court... Bare minimum it is the fault of the employee who gave you the interview.
Keep going to work. Make them fire you.
E: I'd also alert the recruiter to this and start looking again.
Just say "No, thank you", give them the business card of your lawyer, and walk back to your work desk. Say or do no more.
If your employer contacts your lawyer, authorize your lawyer to inform your employer that he will bill them directly for any time spent communicating with them on this or any other related issue.
Tell them to eat shit!
Don't cave. Stand your ground.
Absolutely under no circumstances get vaccinated. This is the hill to die on, so to speak. If it comes to that, go ahead and let them fire you. And if/when they do that, they can look forward to the legal action that will follow.
Regardless of whether this new job is wonderful or not, no job is worth dying for over a useless mRNA injection that will eventually kill you.
Get yourself comfortable with being willing to be fired over this. In fact, I would just start looking now to be as prepared as possible for the day when you are fired.
It's just a job, you can get another one.
They're starving for people who will work. Don't give in!
Religious exemption. It is your legal right.
I would prep with a lawyer beforehand but until you actually hear from a company representitive i would just continue to go to work. Seems your recruiter justs wants the easy route to get his commission by you getting a jab. Fuck him.
They can't require your medical info - that's a HIPAA violation. Plus why would they know whether or not you've already had shots and why would you tell them? None of their business.
Tell them you spoke to God and he told you didn't want to take it. Then tell them you will sue them for violating civil rights act title 7. You do not need to explain your religious beliefs as that is discrimination.
Next up - Forcing you to have a sex change!
Your castration is Tuesday at 2pm Rm 4398.
Tell them you've observed the animal trials and concluded the vax is neither safe nor effective.
Tell them it’s not a vaxx it’s an experiment. And you don’t need it.
Hold the line bro. Better opportunities will come.
I know someone who used this as a religious exemption, "I prayed on it and God told me not to take it."
It's that simple. Your beliefs
I said that too. And added a ton of other things plus scripture quotes.