Could be, definitely there are a number of shills/fed posters, but most are legitimate people.
I'm most annoyed with how reddit influenced the (dot)wins are overall because it discourages intelligent discussion while promoting "clever" or funny comments as a priority.
That is a good question, and most any approach is going to have positives and negatives.
The chan model where posts just show up in sequence and quotes become a link to the original has the benefit that people will tend to scroll through to find the gems, but the negatives like how much easier things become tldr.
Typical discussion forums with just sequences with quoted posts benefit from following the flow of the topic, but comes with many repeats from quotes.
Reddit style was not designed by programmers thinking about a strong delivery of information (in many cases it has that benefit if questions are asked, the correct answers will tend to get more ups), but it was designed by psychologists to generate consensus based reinforcement. This lends itself to clever and short replies to get responses over stronger arguments, not because of accuracy but because people tend to like stuff that is funny. At the same time, most will avoid controversial comments to a greater degree because it will come with downvotes.
So, I can't say what the best approach is, but on the longer term, the reddit style of voting will become increasingly reddit like in the contributions people make.
It’s the worst. It pisses me off when I open a thread and top comment is just some little quip and I have to scroll down to see “Oh this didn’t even happen, or OP is grossly exaggerating.” Or just to find genuine discussion.
I just don't see the feds needing that many actors. They have sheep. Do you call the people who accepted the lockdown feds? No, you call then sheep. This site is not immune to it. Unless half the mods are feds, they are also sheep on a lot of issues. Especially when it comes to protesting. People see it as bad optics.
Man, the last handful of generations have been intrinsically raised on the notion that we shouldn't have to fight our own government. Revolution of a certain sense is always painted as bad by the media in any vector that is observed by the youth.
It's not that people choose to bend the knee, it's that they haven't realized they are on their knee by the time they reach high school and don't have the awareness to stand up, let alone fight. For many of the rest, standing up just isn't worth it without support. Bravery can only do so much when you are an unnamed body in an unmarked grave. People don't want to stand up unless they know they are standing with help. Keeping those that want to stand afraid of standing(J6 for example), just ensures the simulation remains intact.
Perhaps isntead of worrying about optics, we should develop our system until optics don't matter either way. Trump, for example, will use a system he doesn't like to his advantage if that advantage is inherent to the system.
My sentiments exactly. If one person can't stand up on their own then everyone with their same ideals should stand together until they can and keep going. A lack of support system among each other is what's going to keep us weak.
My sentiments exactly. If one person can't stand up on their own then everyone with their same ideals should stand together until they can and keep going. A lack of support system among each other is what's going to keep us weak.
I'll let you answer this one yourself. You know whether you're a fed or not. If you've been doing X and the result is Y. If you're not a fed for doing X then Y must be the feds.
Obviously, there's probably very little feds and it's just a bunch of dumbasses either way but just go with it for the shitposting.
Fed commie goons want everyone voting in a system they completely control and manipulate, to reach their desired outcome. Adding legitimacy to something that isn’t. Like the stock market.
2A is the reason they're not fucking around with regulation in the US, instead they just burn down your food processing plants, derail your trains, shut down your pipelines and fuck around, pretending it's all an accident.
Of course on both sides of the pond they also have fall guys who will get hanged once the people actually resort to violence.
I can still raise chickens, plant a garden, raise lamb and beef, etc.
There's going to be pressure for small land owners to begin actively using their land for food production. That pressure will come first from grocery store prices and second from coworkers, neighbors, etc. buying their excess produce.
No. The commies have social media and other forms of modern surveillance to closely monitor how far they can push, and who to stomp out whilst they are small.
The thing is, nobody can even point out how the industrial revolution has changed climate - when records of plants, factories, the material being burned etc are very well documented and preserved.
By contrast, cows and sustainable farming have been around for thousands of years continuously in the same locations. Are any of these pastures and farms toxic? Did the climate change for them? No?
If it didn't change for heavy industry, what impact will cows have?
Remember that time someone wrote about the huns killing a bunch of asians, and they pointed out the asian serfs were all rice fed beanpoles while the huns were giants who feasted almost exclusively on red meat?
They want to feed their people red meat, and feed anyone who isn't their people trash.
Fresh milk can be sold allover EU directly from the farms, large producers prefer to sell in bulk tho.
Over the last few years a lot of new companies has plopped up, most of which are owned by the farmers themselves. Processing plants that pay a fair price for milk and cost a bit more in the store, but most consumers actually buy those brands to support the farmers. 👌
Transportation is also no issue as almost all truckers are owner operator, no central authority can deny the farmers transport of their milk.
And plenty of small independent grocery stores who buy product directly from producers and local farms instead of some central warehouse.
Sure consumers pay more for the food, but they also save a lot on gas not having to drive far away to a big box store every time they want to buy groceries.
A relatively small amount of milk is consumed as a fluid (beverage or household recipe ingredient) -- only about 22% of total milk fat and 13% of milk solids. In other words, about 80% of milk is purchased by large companies to make cheese, ice cream, yogurt, etc.
Those devils! Accusations and lies. "Peak polluter" my ass!
Look at that immaculate dairy farm! Have you seen the livestock kept in low-IQ countries?!? I am outraged by this criminal injustice. This farm was MURDERED.
They lost it? As in, they did not own the land? Or they could no longer operate it themselves since they were senior citizens and didn't have children who wanted to take over?
As in, they couldn't compete with corporate farms who received government subsidizing, putting family farms at a huge disadvantage. My Uncle was running it at the time, and my cousin still runs it, though it hasn't been a dairy farm for decades
My father in law ran his 70 cow dairy farm until he was too old to do the work. Nothing stopped him but age. He didn't then claim to have lost his farm like a whiny bitch.
Listen, people: you can always say no. Sometimes you have to say no. Yeah, there will be consequences, but there are damn sure going to be consequences for NOT saying no.
This is why you never give up your guns. Ignore their edicts and continue to run your farm. When they send their goons to harass you, confront them with appropriate force to stop their trespass. Form a local militia with surrounding farms so these assholes really start getting the picture. Make your entire region a "no-go zone." That shouldn't be a new concept for sissy Euro-gov types anyway.
How many milk inspectors are ready to lose their lives over this? Because if I had a milk farm and it was my life's work they were taking from me, I'd defend it down to the last cow. But maybe that's just me.
The Communists are gonna push us to the point of confrontation, prepare yourself for it.
Those are the feds. Just ignore them.
So 80 percent of this site are feds. It's easier to accept that most people are weak sheep.
I mean, 80% of this site could be bots used by the fed, sure.
FEDKILLR9000 has entered the chat
Beep beep boop beep.
The FBI's newest bot is the CockGobbler3000.
Could be, definitely there are a number of shills/fed posters, but most are legitimate people.
I'm most annoyed with how reddit influenced the (dot)wins are overall because it discourages intelligent discussion while promoting "clever" or funny comments as a priority.
Don't forget all the constant gaslighting...
There’s no gaslighting on this site, you’re just crazy….
/s
I’m sorry, I could only come up with a basic level “faggot” insult.
This place died awhile back. That’s just how it goes
How would you change it to prioritize more intelligent discussion, out of curiosity?
That is a good question, and most any approach is going to have positives and negatives.
The chan model where posts just show up in sequence and quotes become a link to the original has the benefit that people will tend to scroll through to find the gems, but the negatives like how much easier things become tldr.
Typical discussion forums with just sequences with quoted posts benefit from following the flow of the topic, but comes with many repeats from quotes.
Reddit style was not designed by programmers thinking about a strong delivery of information (in many cases it has that benefit if questions are asked, the correct answers will tend to get more ups), but it was designed by psychologists to generate consensus based reinforcement. This lends itself to clever and short replies to get responses over stronger arguments, not because of accuracy but because people tend to like stuff that is funny. At the same time, most will avoid controversial comments to a greater degree because it will come with downvotes.
So, I can't say what the best approach is, but on the longer term, the reddit style of voting will become increasingly reddit like in the contributions people make.
It’s the worst. It pisses me off when I open a thread and top comment is just some little quip and I have to scroll down to see “Oh this didn’t even happen, or OP is grossly exaggerating.” Or just to find genuine discussion.
Think about it. The average upvote count on this site is about 500 doots. And you're always one of those. Not odd?
Possible, considering there is probably only a couple thousand users at most it seems
Yes. There are shit feds and commie faggots all over this site.
Learn to recognize them, out them, mock them, and then move on.
Fedboi
I don't know, there's a lot of retards.
No but many are. And they're harder to spot than most think. Heck you could be one.
The only way you deal with that is the same as with any mole. And yes we all hope for someone else to save us. But there's no one else.
I just don't see the feds needing that many actors. They have sheep. Do you call the people who accepted the lockdown feds? No, you call then sheep. This site is not immune to it. Unless half the mods are feds, they are also sheep on a lot of issues. Especially when it comes to protesting. People see it as bad optics.
Sounds about right. There's no optics when your opponent control nearly all media anyway.
People will refuse to see that. The "bad optics" argument gives people an excuse to do nothing.
It doesn't matter what the mods here say. The MAGA movement is a lot bigger than patriots.win.
The mods also delete and censor informative comments that notice things.
It’s been said that society is split like this.
20% are Saints
20% are Free-Riders who want to game the system
60% are moralists who just do what everyone else is doing.
The 20% of the Saints need to be convinced of Revolution 1st.
Man, the last handful of generations have been intrinsically raised on the notion that we shouldn't have to fight our own government. Revolution of a certain sense is always painted as bad by the media in any vector that is observed by the youth.
It's not that people choose to bend the knee, it's that they haven't realized they are on their knee by the time they reach high school and don't have the awareness to stand up, let alone fight. For many of the rest, standing up just isn't worth it without support. Bravery can only do so much when you are an unnamed body in an unmarked grave. People don't want to stand up unless they know they are standing with help. Keeping those that want to stand afraid of standing(J6 for example), just ensures the simulation remains intact.
Perhaps isntead of worrying about optics, we should develop our system until optics don't matter either way. Trump, for example, will use a system he doesn't like to his advantage if that advantage is inherent to the system.
My sentiments exactly. If one person can't stand up on their own then everyone with their same ideals should stand together until they can and keep going. A lack of support system among each other is what's going to keep us weak.
My sentiments exactly. If one person can't stand up on their own then everyone with their same ideals should stand together until they can and keep going. A lack of support system among each other is what's going to keep us weak.
I've been called a fed for the exact opposite. Saying action needs to be taken.
What is it? Am I a fed if I say not to resort to violence EVER?
Or am I a glowie shill for supporting violence when its deemed neccessary??
The fuck is it then?
I'll let you answer this one yourself. You know whether you're a fed or not. If you've been doing X and the result is Y. If you're not a fed for doing X then Y must be the feds.
Obviously, there's probably very little feds and it's just a bunch of dumbasses either way but just go with it for the shitposting.
The last three years of our lives:
Panic
Betrayal
Tragedy
Fear
Chaos
Destruction
"Are ya winnin', son?"
Fed commie goons want everyone voting in a system they completely control and manipulate, to reach their desired outcome. Adding legitimacy to something that isn’t. Like the stock market.
"Let's be civil" while getting our throats cut
Those people aren't "on our side", they're faking it
Lol don’t you think we’re past that?
Not yet, 2A stands in the way
2A is the reason they're not fucking around with regulation in the US, instead they just burn down your food processing plants, derail your trains, shut down your pipelines and fuck around, pretending it's all an accident.
Of course on both sides of the pond they also have fall guys who will get hanged once the people actually resort to violence.
I can still raise chickens, plant a garden, raise lamb and beef, etc.
There's going to be pressure for small land owners to begin actively using their land for food production. That pressure will come first from grocery store prices and second from coworkers, neighbors, etc. buying their excess produce.
Correct. They're already doing it, they're just doing it remotely, anonymously, and safely for them.
No. The commies have social media and other forms of modern surveillance to closely monitor how far they can push, and who to stomp out whilst they are small.
they already have their Army
dude i just got his new grill, all the features! can’t wait for the NFL draft soon, so excited
beyond fucked ™️
I love how they got the mainstream to condemn farming. Its all fun and games until people start starving to death.
The goal here to for the governments to control farming so that you will starve unless your social credit score is high enough.
Ok. But they also want you to starve to death regardless.
The thing is, nobody can even point out how the industrial revolution has changed climate - when records of plants, factories, the material being burned etc are very well documented and preserved.
By contrast, cows and sustainable farming have been around for thousands of years continuously in the same locations. Are any of these pastures and farms toxic? Did the climate change for them? No?
If it didn't change for heavy industry, what impact will cows have?
Remember that time someone wrote about the huns killing a bunch of asians, and they pointed out the asian serfs were all rice fed beanpoles while the huns were giants who feasted almost exclusively on red meat?
They want to feed their people red meat, and feed anyone who isn't their people trash.
Communists love starving people. It's their number one goal
Now that I think about it, would would there be a way to not sell to the people who enable this?
Fresh milk can be sold allover EU directly from the farms, large producers prefer to sell in bulk tho.
Over the last few years a lot of new companies has plopped up, most of which are owned by the farmers themselves. Processing plants that pay a fair price for milk and cost a bit more in the store, but most consumers actually buy those brands to support the farmers. 👌
Transportation is also no issue as almost all truckers are owner operator, no central authority can deny the farmers transport of their milk.
And plenty of small independent grocery stores who buy product directly from producers and local farms instead of some central warehouse.
Sure consumers pay more for the food, but they also save a lot on gas not having to drive far away to a big box store every time they want to buy groceries.
A relatively small amount of milk is consumed as a fluid (beverage or household recipe ingredient) -- only about 22% of total milk fat and 13% of milk solids. In other words, about 80% of milk is purchased by large companies to make cheese, ice cream, yogurt, etc.
they have their factory farms to supply them.
Sounds like you should destroy your government then
Those devils! Accusations and lies. "Peak polluter" my ass!
Look at that immaculate dairy farm! Have you seen the livestock kept in low-IQ countries?!? I am outraged by this criminal injustice. This farm was MURDERED.
Another shining example of, “you will own nothing and be happy”, minus the “happy” part
When I was far younger and more naïve, it would have never occurred to me that a nation would starve their own citizens intentionally.
You know the sad thing, dairies got destroyed years ago in our country through lobbying and most of yall didn't give a damn about it
I was like 11 and watched my grandparents lose their dairy farm, but you're not wrong
They lost it? As in, they did not own the land? Or they could no longer operate it themselves since they were senior citizens and didn't have children who wanted to take over?
Ah " wetlands" good old federal government land grab
Corporate farm lobbyists priced them out of the industry. Super hard to operate a dairy, basically impossible to do it at small scale.
As in, they couldn't compete with corporate farms who received government subsidizing, putting family farms at a huge disadvantage. My Uncle was running it at the time, and my cousin still runs it, though it hasn't been a dairy farm for decades
In other words they didn't lose their farm.
By land, no, but they couldn't farm anymore. Are you kidding me?
My father in law ran his 70 cow dairy farm until he was too old to do the work. Nothing stopped him but age. He didn't then claim to have lost his farm like a whiny bitch.
So why aren't you farming it you pussy bitch
Destroy lives. That’s what government does best.
"We're just giving up. Please feel sorry for us."
This is exactly how I read it.
Listen, people: you can always say no. Sometimes you have to say no. Yeah, there will be consequences, but there are damn sure going to be consequences for NOT saying no.
Needs more killdozer
this is how they are made
Patton was right.
Yedolf was right!
Marxists after the kulaks.. Where have we seen this before?
Sad :(
Evil hates humankind
You speak of evil as if it's some separate entity. It is, and it isn't.
Exactly. It is and it isnt.
You never got violent which is why you did not effect change.
This is why you never give up your guns. Ignore their edicts and continue to run your farm. When they send their goons to harass you, confront them with appropriate force to stop their trespass. Form a local militia with surrounding farms so these assholes really start getting the picture. Make your entire region a "no-go zone." That shouldn't be a new concept for sissy Euro-gov types anyway.
How many milk inspectors are ready to lose their lives over this? Because if I had a milk farm and it was my life's work they were taking from me, I'd defend it down to the last cow. But maybe that's just me.
unfortunately anything less than hanging their charred bodies from overpasses will result in them coming back with a swat team.
damn right!
Starvation politics is whats on the table in Holland. I hope the Dutch like going hungry because that is what the glorious great reset offers.
Threaten them with a deadline where they all, on a certain date, destroy their entire crops
So, shoot them. Make ready, take aim and Fire!!!
Govt wants you dead.
Well fucking burn the government
Need more marvin and his killdozers.
So you're telling me protesting didn't accomplish anything.
Where did they go, would really like more on this farmer.
There were protests this weekend in Brussels by Dutch and Belgium farmers, so clearly this is not over, why is it over for this guy???
There are Many, Many More Dutch people than Dutch politicians. DONT LET THEM DESTROY YOUR LIVES.
https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1632471421514391560?s=20
Not sure why this is heartbreaking, we’ve known this was the direction for years/decades.
The farmer and Dutch did absolutely nothing.
Thankfully their land adds to the “enjoy owning nothing, eat bugs, etc…”-lifestyle. 🫠
Change your Government!!
one person that tries to come arrest you at a time
And yet he complies.
When voting harder daddy doesn't work......start shooting or accept your fate as a slave.
F