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"CHY-NA!" The Answer Was Always CHY-NA (twitter.com)
posted 83 days ago by TraitorJoes 83 days ago by TraitorJoes +1883 / -5
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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 76 points 83 days ago +77 / -1

Don't disagree, but I imagine it took a massive amount of behind-the-scenes negotiations to get an outcome like this.

Everyone voting the same does not happen spontaneously, something is up.

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– War_Hamster 44 points 83 days ago +44 / -0

The political calculation here is: "How can I justify keeping the origins of the virus I just spent 3 years saying is the worst thing in history secret?"

It'd be pretty easy to campaign against this.

Of course, if they shift all the blame to China, they're also going to make sure that the gain-of-function research done in the US and paid for by the State Department and DOD (among others) never sees the light of day.

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 10 points 83 days ago +10 / -0

How many of them voted aye because they suspect China is responsible and don't care what the intel actually says?

I'd say the majority.

Regardless there's already a money/paper trail on the US and Fauci and if those allegations are true then they are complicit either wittingly or not, and that will be China's rebuttal.

If Joe doesn't veto this it would not surprise me to see the CCP just cash in on all their Biden family kompromat and then invade Taiwan while all the chips are falling on the Biden maladministration.

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– gunteh 8 points 83 days ago +8 / -0

A unanimous vote means some political posturing on all sides is being done. There’s a win-win for the deep state somewhere in this vote, and it’s sure as h*ll is ugly to get everyone to vote on the same side.

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– DeadmanDracek 3 points 82 days ago +3 / -0

It's not complicated. China will blame the US, the US will blame China. Since they're blaming someone else, they themselves will never accept responsibility and nothing will be done about it.

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– gunteh 3 points 82 days ago +3 / -0

Doesn’t explain a unanimous vote in both chambers though. The truth is somewhere in between the two stories, naturally.

If anything, the clearest government-sanctioned evidence against China being the primary leaker will probably be presented, and China will say something along of the lines of “Fort Dietrich or some lab in NC created the virus” or something like that, but it’s a semantics game after that.

What we want to know is who leaked it, and if it was a US-created virus that was leaked in Wuhan at the behest of US interests against Trumps election, that would be a different story than if the US leaked the virus on its own people and then blamed China for leaking the virus.

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– War_Hamster 5 points 83 days ago +5 / -0

Your scenario assumes that China and the US Gov't haven't been working in lockstep the entire time.

I don't think that's a safe assumption.

And the implications of that get interesting. If the truth is getting out now, does it mean they've lost control of the narrative?

If so, we'll see people looking for lifeboats.

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

It does assume this, but was China working lockstep on the awful response to the virus that ruined millions of lives? I'm not so sure.

And so which did more damage? The virus, or the response?

The rest of the world had the initiative to control the response, and the methods were dogshit.

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– War_Hamster 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

You're asking the right questions.

Go down this rabbit hole with me please.

According to the link below, Matt Pottinger, a China desk veteran, was the driving force behind the botched US response that ultimately led the way for the rest of the Western Nations.

Please give this a read and then consider how all of the other lockdown pushers like Gates and the many NGO's also have deep China ties.

https://michaelpsenger.substack.com/p/matt-pottinger-the-intelligence-agent

Looking forward to your reply.

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

Interesting, thanks for the link.

The first part of the article talks about his concern for what he was seeing and hearing coming out of China, specifically the Chinese social media posts. To be fair I was watching a lot of that and was likewise very concerned. I did try to warn and convince people to take it seriously, and now some of those people who shrugged it off are still concerned about covid. With the two weeks to slow the spread scam I took a wait and see approach, and once I didn't see anything happening like the fake stuff out of China I knew we were being scammed.

So early in the article I figured he was just unwittingly duped into trying to save lives and what not while at the same time unwittingly pushing a CCP agenda. Maybe he wanted to gain favor with Trump and be the hero for being correct.

But then I read the bit about his wife, and, yeah, this dude saw dollar signs. He's connected to the pharma elite, maybe they paid him to do it because they saw dollar signs too. Not a stretch when everything is brought to you by Pfizer now.

Maybe the CCP groomed him while he was over there, or maybe they just kept tabs on him for feeding him psyops intel in the future, but I doubt he's some card carrying member of the CCP. It may just turn out that the information he was getting from there aligned with the simplest explanation.

The simplest explanation is that he's a narcisistic corrupt greedy goon like so many of the others and was looking to profit and climb higher in the club (hence the suggestion he's fit for a higher office). People like that might ally with communists to get their way, doesn't mean they're actual communists.

TLDR: He's probably just another garden variety snake grifting like most of the rest of'em.

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– deleted 0 points 83 days ago +1 / -1
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– RINOhunt 20 points 83 days ago +20 / -0

Everyone voting the same always means war is on the horizon. These lizards only agree on one thing.

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– Amaroq64 3 points 82 days ago +3 / -0

The implications of China wanting the US to go to war with China are horrifying.

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– Zerocool777 3 points 82 days ago +3 / -0

Well... you're not wrong.... good point...

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– gunteh 14 points 83 days ago +14 / -0

Two possible outcomes, although a unanimous vote in both chambers leans strongly toward one outcome more than the other:

  1. Biden will be forced to pass a loyalty test: either to China or to Congress (by vetoing, he’s showing his true colors)
  2. They want to have a precursor to blame this on China before something else bigger comes up (like Pharma being behind a lot of the lockdown policies to sell more of the clot shot, or bribing officials)

Considering they got both Democrats and Republicans to 100% agree, it’s either something massive or they all want a war with China.

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– deleted 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0
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– gunteh 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Absolutely, the message to Biden is crystal clear, I’m just highlighting an additional objective that is probably going on in the background in case Biden is forced into an untenable position with his many, many conflicts of interest.

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 1 point 81 days ago +1 / -0

Interesting, and the thing is that only some people suffered from the virus, but everyone suffered the terrible response to it what with the lockdowns, masking, business closings, etc. They gonna blame China for all that too?

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– preferredfault 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

The something that is up, is Democrats know the American people pretty much all know that COVID was caused by the Democrats to destroy the economy and steal the 2020 election, and they're afraid to death about what the American people might eventually do about it once the camels back breaks.

With the J6 truth finally becoming publicly accepted (it always was privately accepted by a majority of Americans), it's even more obvious Democrats did a coup and then locked up political prisoners like this is a third world country. The lockdowns were partially to cover for and quell their BLM rioters, first the masks were to give them cover for committing crimes, and then the lockdowns were to keep them from getting out of control and turning on their masters. They turned people into rabid attack dogs, so they needed to leash the entire nation in order to cool things down after they got what they wanted. Not for the sake of the nation, but for the sake of themselves, because eventually their rabid dogs would have turned on them.

So the something that is up, is Democrats want this, and the GOP is playing into their hands once again, by allowing the blame that rests on Democrats shoulders, to go to China instead. Sure, China was involved. But the masterminds were the Democrats. The Democrats used China to attack this nation.

Democrats know they are a small minority in this nation. They know they can only sit behind a wall and scream so loud to pretend like they have more supporters on their side. And their biggest fear is that the gates get figuratively stormed and opened, only for everyone to realize Democrats make up a very small part of America's population, and for everyone outside to realize this castle of stolen power was virtually unmanned, yet purported to represent a majority of Americans.

And that's what Democrats fear the most. That everyone looks around and realizes they're not living in a world where Democrats have any real backing to be in power, but rather, that everyone looks around and says "Oh I'm actually surrounded by Americans just like me", and they're afraid of the unification such a revelation would result in, where Americans no longer feel divided, because they realize the "other" side was almost entirely made up by Democrats in order to divide and conquer.

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– swampwarrior67 5 points 83 days ago +5 / -0

Why would they ever vote to declas if it would implicate them? Of course they wouldn't, so whatever is being declassified will not implicate them.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

they think they can stay ahead of the narrative and trying to do so is their only option at this point

look for massive hilariously inept lying coming soon to a television near you

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 1 point 81 days ago +1 / -0

You make some interesting points.

I am somewhat skeptical that planned to release a virus for all of the reasons you stated, however it is obvious that they used it to do many of the things you accuse them of doing. The whole never let a good crisis go to waste thing.

Which brings me to this question, and that is if China did do this on purpose or otherwise, then why did the whole western world go into authoritarian mode? Would it not have been easier for them to blame China right out of the gate in order to rally people to do whatever was needed to thwart this viral weapon?

If it was an attack why would you censor people for trying to thwart said attack by recommending treatments or debating official policies?

China may have released this virus, which killed millions, sure. But it was the policies of the western governments in particular that ruined and damaged many millions more lives than the actual virus affected.

They vote in unison to condemn China while at the same time having used a virus to completely screw the entire public with their awful bullying and policies.

The response did far more damage than the virus, and they chose to respond that way. If they held a vote to investigate the damage of the response it would be 490 voting no.

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– preferredfault 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

I think they take advantage of all the ways they can benefit from releasing the virus. It's never just a singular reason, they utilize it in every way they can, and different parts of the same beast utilize it to their benefit in various ways that benefit them personally. The overarching motto is don't waste a good tragedy.

But the masks were definitely to cover up crime. If a person walked into a store with a mask pre-covid, they would have been suspicious as fuck. And that's exactly what was happening a lot right before masks got normalized, as BLM were robbing stores left and right across the country. Then almost all of the robberies after that, were done by people wearing surgical masks, because again, it was an easy cover. It's hard enough to find a criminal suspect on the street, even harder when they blend in with everyone else wearing the same mask. A big part of the point was to make it easier to enter stores to commit these crimes, and make it easier to get away with it.

"Would it not have been easier for them to blame China right out of the gate"

They wanted to bury their involvement under the rug. Blaming China leads back to Fauci. Then they realized people aren't going to let this go and want accountability, and now they are trying to use China as a distraction. Now that they are leaning toward openly blaming China, they can make anything China says seem like a deflection. So if China says it's the Democrats that actually caused the virus, they can just write it off as China trying to shift the blame, making it easier (at least in their eyes) to sweep everything under the rug. Basically Democrats want to muddle everything so much, trying to sort through it all to find out who is really to blame, becomes seemingly impossible.

They're trying to play old tired games, even though virtually everyone knows exactly who is to blame. But they feel if they don't play these games then they're definitely getting the blame. Which is exactly why they play these dumb games at all.

Same shit with Nordstream. We all know who did it, but they blamed Russia, and now Ukraine. It's finger pointing in an attempt to again make things soo convoluted that no one can seemingly sort out who really is to blame....at least that's how they want it to work out, even though everyone knows the US did it. They don't even bother with plausible deniability anymore, all they can do is just deniability.

Basically, our government is a bunch of morons who behave like children who think their lies actually work, because they're doing shit soo egregious that it's pretty much impossible for these lies to work.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

" something is up"

that ain't no shit

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– y_do_i_need_to_hide 9 points 83 days ago +14 / -5

Yep.

This was done by us with China as the fall guy.

Im surprisingly OK with it. :)

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– Wexit-Delecto 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

The divorce needs to happen, if it happens on false pretences, what difference, at this point, does it make (so to speak)?

However, I do not want to see this deflect blame from our own governments, police, judges, doctors, nurses, “experts”, etc. The list of guilty is very very long.

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– swift_water 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Why would they ever let you leave? Divorce implies you have the freedom to leave.

You don't.

So now what?

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

I meant the divorce between chy-na and the west. Looks like the left will implement the divorce President Trump wanted all along.

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– swift_water 1 point 83 days ago +2 / -1

Ah. Well here's the issue - that'd require manufacturing come back to the US which means two things.

You'd have to convince corporations to purposefully make less profit, and you'd have to ask the consumer to spend way more on their goods.

Way more. Easily 1400% more sometimes.

People struggle with 15% inflation. That'd wipe out everyone except the land owning and insanely rich.

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– Wexit-Delecto 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

There won't be a choice. President Trump's "Phase II" is long overdue to be introduced (in fact, it became clear that Chy-na wasn't going to honour its obligations under Phase I around Dec 2019... we all know what happened after). There's no way for Biden to roll it back. Much higher tariffs are coming for all Chy-nese imports.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

people can and will do without a LOT of shit when they have to.

The former Soviet Union population was in very bad shape for a while but less bad than when Stalin starved the Ukraine.

Putin remembers that phase of history well

the big question is will the globalists who want to starve us continue to destroy food production in the States ?

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– trannyqueef 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

I'm not OK with it.

The covid hoax was necessary to pull off the steal.

Without covid there was no mail in voting, which is where the bulk of the steal happened.

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– y_do_i_need_to_hide 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

I agree.

You think Biden is bad for us?

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– War_Hamster 4 points 83 days ago +4 / -0

They'll try to cover up the US involvement.

But Redfield's testimony earlier this week has already made that a very difficult task.

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– phzoe 3 points 83 days ago +5 / -2

The Chinese sprayed chemicals in the street.

The Chinese showed videos of people dropping dead.

We didn't make them do either one.

The COVID hoax was started by Chinese researchers publishing papers in China.

Fan Wu et al. got this ball rolling.

The US might have provided partial funding, but if you think Wuhan Lab only existed because of our cash, that is laughable. Our subsidies couldn't be more than a few percent of the operation at best.

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– y_do_i_need_to_hide 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

We saw movies that may have originated in China.

Wuhan makes a great story.

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– phzoe -1 points 83 days ago +1 / -2

I can distinguish Chinese speech when I hear it from other asian languages. The initial videos I'm talking about all came from China.

Wuhan has all the "experts" needed to create viruses in computer labs.

The magic RNA sequence that identified a "novel" "virus" was sent from Wuhan to Germany where Drostan made a PCR-based identification kit.

The power to choose which random sequence of molecules would be the next "virus" came from China and China alone. The rest of the world fell in line.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

my take:

the globalists who want the Great Reset sold it to the cabal in DC as necessary to reduce the footprint of the US empire for the sake of the New World Order

the traitors agreed as long as there was 10% for the Big Guy et al.

China was behind it all the time - the globalists are tools of the Chinese who used them

China's plan all along was to destroy the population of the USA with 5th Generation non-kinetic warfare and take our Lebensraum and natural resources

the NWO was a convenient stalking horse for the Chinese and even Schwab is a Baizuo to them, as is everyone who isn't Chinese or committed to destroying them

It's the wheel of history, man,

Fate of Empires , Sir John Glubb

this unanimous vote is the traitors, nincompoops and grifters in Congress realizing the handwriting is on the wall and they think they can get out ahead of what's coming

no one can get out ahead of this

"the beginning of strife is like the letting out of water"

I see a bad moon rising

strangely enough no matter what happens the answer is the same as it's always been: America first and no bankers / financiers running things

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– Faulkner 0 points 83 days ago +1 / -1

How you figure? Just before I read your comment, I was thinking I wouldn’t be surprised if US taxpayers paid every penny.

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– frogface 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

agreed

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– IncredibleMrE1 7 points 83 days ago +7 / -0

STOP ASIAN HATE

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– cherbui 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

lol ... easy start arresting them criminals start w/ nyc until then eh... the hate is ccp not the Chinese if thats what you mean

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– ERIC_CIARAMELLA 0 points 83 days ago +1 / -1

No.

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– TommyJarvis 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Yeah, if they are behind the "it came from China" line, then you should probably expect the whole THING is a lie.

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– UpvoteBot 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

You quoted this from my internal monologue. Came here to say EXACTLY this.

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– talltellmanson 47 points 83 days ago +59 / -12

Unanimous vote = unanimous lies.

This was released by the US via the biolabs in Ukraine.

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– Indianapede 15 points 83 days ago +18 / -3

Trying to control the narrative

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– NateBedfordForrest 1 point 83 days ago +6 / -5

Yes sir. Bingo, Bango. It's almost hegel^2

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– PROCIsAsshoe 12 points 83 days ago +12 / -0

If it was released by the U.S. via Ukraine then why did the PROC shut down domestic air travel to/from Hubei province while still allowing international air travel to/from Hubei province? I really don't believe that it was released in the UKR or, at a minimum, that it was exclusively released from that location. I don't understand why users seem to be repeating this all of the sudden on PDW and it's fishy.

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– talltellmanson 6 points 83 days ago +7 / -1

The fact that PDW are repeating this all of a sudden is because they just UNANIMOUSLY voted on it.

Covid has been the deep states most effective and brutal weapon against the American people and there is absolutely 0 reason to believe they've all of a sudden changed their perspective and "want to get to the bottom of it".

ZERO chance.

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– WhineTasting 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

I do t disagree with you as far as pointing out its effectiveness on Americans, but turned into a world wide concern.... Just pointing that out.

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– GuyOnABuffalo 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Created in Ukraine. Released in Wuhan at the 2019 Military World Game.

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– Sumarongi 0 points 83 days ago +3 / -3

It’s all smoke and mirrors

The CCP was set up by the same globalists (Rockefeller/Rothschild)

It really doesn’t matter ‘where it cabs from’. It’s a meme virus anyway to get people to take the depopulation bioweapon sterilization

The globalists want a conflict between Chyna and USA because they profit from it (selling weapons, getting countries into debt)

Actually they want the destruction of the USA because, even though they occupy the government, the people of the USA still hold onto this idea if ‘freedom’ (and they have guns) and that is standing in their way of global domination

That is one reason for the targeted vaccine genocide

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– jda70 -2 points 83 days ago +1 / -3

No they weren't. Stop making shit up.

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– Sumarongi 1 point 83 days ago +2 / -1

Someone doesn’t know their history.

Mao’s revolution and CCP was funded by Rockefeller. PBoC is a Rothschild bank. That’s not even historically debatable

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

It's the other way around.

TRUE, the Rothschilds have a world wide domination system and financed Mao etc, true, but they were outmaneuvered by the Wily Oriental Gentlemen who have a generational viewpoint.

They are using the Rothschilds to further their revenge for the 100 years of humiliation. The Rothschilds will not be spared.

"When the hunter gets captured by the game "

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– Sumarongi 0 points 83 days ago +1 / -1

https://www.nexusnewsfeed.com/article/geopolitics/china-the-rothschilds-and-the-global-rise-of-communism/

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– what_have_we_learned 0 points 83 days ago +2 / -2

It’s because it’s a jab at Ukraine. And anything that jabs at Ukraine and supports Putin gets mad love here these days.

Even Trump says China.

These fucks? Nah, choose the opinion that makes Putin look good.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

username is from burn after reading ?

fuck Hollywood but those guys make some pretty good movies

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– barwhack 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

It's pretty much a given, at this point, that politico-endorsement is a guarantee of a cover-up...

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– sgttoporbottoms 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

That or they’re trying to shift the focus off Ukraine onto China and really ramp up a war there.

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– frogface 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

We don't need to fight China, we only need to stop feeding them.

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– Whoopies_tds 3 points 83 days ago +5 / -2

Anyone else notice there are NO independent thinkers in Congress?

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– BallotsOnRubysUSB 21 points 83 days ago +21 / -0

The bill now requires Biden's signature.

What about the Senate passing this as well?
Did they do this already?
 

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– Crappydatum 12 points 83 days ago +12 / -0

Thank God I'm not the only one who passed 4th grade civics here

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– covok48 5 points 83 days ago +6 / -1

laughs in Obamacare

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– TraitorJoes [S] 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Bypassing Senate Committees: Rule XIV and Unanimous Consent??

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– henri_derelicte 15 points 83 days ago +25 / -10

I believe it’s China, but we have a number of foreign propagandists trying to claim the US is somehow responsible for the virus. Giving funding to a Chinese lab to circumvent US policies is unethical, but doesn’t make us responsible for the virus

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– hellohellohellohello 18 points 83 days ago +20 / -2

I would put it at:

60% chance it leaked from China due to recklessness

30% chance China leaked it on purpose to quell Hong Kong and take out Trump

10% chance the CIA or Deep State basically framed China to take out Trump

Maybe there's a little wiggle room in the 30% / 10% for some kind of CCP/Deep State collaboration.

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– henri_derelicte 9 points 83 days ago +10 / -1

If I was going to hazard a guess, I would say negligence was the likely cause, with the rest from the deep state and China being “never let a crisis go to waste.”

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 3 points 83 days ago +4 / -1

Factor in a 1% chance that covid never existed, or if it did had similar virulence of previous viruses like H1N1 or swine flu, and that it was massively overblown to create a global psy-op.

The way that it was responded to along with all of the conflicting information lends at least some credibility to this possibility.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

" 1% chance that covid never existed"

explain my COVID toes in Feb 2020, and all the Long COVID symptoms since that track with all the other people like me who never got the jab-

tell me the atrial fibrillation and bone deep fatigue ( used to lift heavy and treadmill a like a motherfucker, my exercise tolerance disappeared overnight) is my FUCKING IMAGINATION

explain why the symptoms are going away with the FLCCC protocol, the world class researchers who figured out how to treat COVID

yes, most people didn't get seriously ill with it, because it is a cold

but some of us did, because it's also a bioweapon

FFS do some research

FLCCC.net

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– Build_Back_Bankrupt 1 point 81 days ago +1 / -0

Sorry you went through that, but glad the protocol is working.

Pretty sure that I had H1N1 when it was a thing, and it was maybe the worst sickness I ever had, considered going to the ER.

The only reason I won't rule out its existence completely is because I do know a handful of people like yourself who got very ill.

The inconsistency of symptoms is what gets me though, most people had it as a bad flu or cold, but the people who got it bad all seemed to have similar symptoms. I can't rule out that they lumped bad colds and flus in with the folks who actually got it to drum up fear and awful policies.

It may have been bad, but how widespread was it in reality?

It's like they might as well have diagnosed anyone with the flu or a cold as having measles.

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– Dereliction 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

CIA/Deep State + China cooperated to take out Trump. Remember the fake "dying in the streets" vids coming out of China?

There is no misunderstanding or mistake about those -- pure 100% fear propaganda to lead the global lockdowns, defraud the US about the election/Trump, and try to establish new social engineering.

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– talltellmanson 5 points 83 days ago +14 / -9

50% chance the US released this thing from within the Ukrainina bioweapons labs.

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– RedneckWhiteandBlue -1 points 83 days ago +3 / -4

amen! the only reason it got voted 419-0!

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– jda70 -1 points 83 days ago +2 / -3

100% chance you don't know what you are talking about.

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– Sumarongi 4 points 83 days ago +5 / -1

It’s a meme virus anyway. Doesn’t exist as any more of a threat than the common cold. The governments are just puppets controlled by the same people at the top.

It’s all a show.

In china they will blame USA and in USA they will blame China. That’s the point, to set the conditions for war in which they can institute the final ‘great reset’ for humanity (the actual destruction of USA)

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– firestorm117 4 points 83 days ago +5 / -1

.... Did we create it? Did we leave it in a hostile foreign country? Then yea, we bear responsibility. If not, then sure let's talk about the responsibility.

But it's like leaving a loaded gun around a child unsupervised and freely accessible. Only a liberal would say it's not their fault the kid blew his own head off with the gun when he wasn't looking.

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– Wexit-Delecto 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

It was the flu. Don’t tell me you believe those videos that “leaked” out of Chy-na showing people dropping dead on the streets.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

no, it was a coronavirus, with spike protein added.

most people fought it offf.

some people like me got really sick - the alergic reaction to the spike protein in the alveoli

I survived bacuese I never went to the hospital where they would have killed me with a vent tube

3 years of Long Covid, just had the worst atrial fibrillation so far the other day

the FLCCC.net protocol is really helping

I'm still exhausted

I used to lift heavy, treadmill like a madman

it all disappeared overnight in Feb 2020 after a Trump rally.

2 months, could barely get out of bed

then I had a halfway decent couple years then about a year ago the bottom fell out

people who deny it's real just didn't have a bad case or know someone who did

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– Wexit-Delecto 3 points 82 days ago +3 / -0

Sorry this happened to you, but statistically speaking, no more people were disabled or killed by covid than by any prior year's flu. It was a totally normal cold and flu season until the vaxx was released, which is when all cause mortality started to go up.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

It's obvious you have no clue, because you are not arguing from ALL the evidence, just the little bit you've looked at. You don't understand the entire situation and all the relevant data. Do your homework, because you sound like an ignorant jackass.

You don't understand the damage you are doing with your self important blowhard bullshit

No i don't believe the videos Of people dropping dead in the streets. from COVID, and I didn't say i did so why tf would you bring that in ?

you REALLY need to work on your intellectual skills because you are embarrassing yourself.

the ones of people dying suddenly from the jab, those are real.

You are suffering form a common dysfunctional thinking error in the Internet age: you have access to a lot of information but think that means you understand a subject and are justified in speaking authoritatively because you have SOME FACTS. You don't understand and you're not an authority.

you are wrong when you say no more were disabled than by the flu. long term post viral syndrome is uncommon with the flu. we don't know the prevalence with LC but it's real, it's not small, THAT"S WHY THEY USE IT TO HIDE VAX INJURY

if it wasn't real, if it's just from the vax, it would have been totally absent during 2020 before the vax came out.

My LC STARTED IN FEB 2020, and I'm not the only one.

you re right, all cause mortality went up after the jab. BUT I'M NOT SAYING LC IS FATAL, except for the people who give up and commit suicide - which is something you would learn about if you were willing to do your homework, which so far you refuse to do.

The proof COVID is not fatal is that no one I can find died of COVID at home. all the COVID deaths were in hospital. I'm not saying it's fatal.

FFS do your homework, and stop arguing from your half baked theories to the evidence. Look at ALL the evidence, then build a model and IF SOMEONE COMES UP WITH A COMPELLING COUNTEREXPLANATION, LOOK INTO IT. that's basic intellectual honesty, and the opposite is teenage ego.

go to FB and look at the long hauler groups. many of the people in those groups are vax injured, but many are like me, unjabbed.

you really need to do your homework before you spread any more disinformation

the number of people who like me are never jabbed and disabled by Long Covid is not tiny

I survived because I didn;t go to the hospital and the people who died with COVID in the hospital were killed by the vent, and remdesivir and incompetence (no steroids to address ARDS)

Most of us with LC have it because high dose corticosteroids were suppressed by the establishment. Chetty et al. didn't figure it out until it was too late for me but people who got COVID and had the allergic propensity to organizing pneumonia, AND got high dose prednisone on the 8th day of symptoms have NO LONG COVID.

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

you are wrong when you say no more were disabled than by the flu. long term post viral syndrome is uncommon with the flu.

It is also uncommon with covid.

we don't know the prevalence with LC but it's real, it's not small,

Long flu was real before too. At the same rate.

THAT"S WHY THEY USE IT TO HIDE VAX INJURY

We agree on this point. Cases of long covid/long flu exploded after the vaxx came out.

if it wasn't real, if it's just from the vax, it would have been totally absent during 2020 before the vax came out.

I didn’t say “it’s not real.” I said “it was just as common during covid as before, and only went up when the vaxx came out”.

you re right, all cause mortality went up after the jab. BUT I'M NOT SAYING LC IS FATAL, except for the people who give up and commit suicide - which is something you would learn about if you were willing to do your homework, which so far you refuse to do.

LC also went up after the vaxx came out. Before then it (long covid/long flu, same thing) was flat for years.

The proof COVID is not fatal is that no one I can find died of COVID at home. all the COVID deaths were in hospital. I'm not saying it's fatal.

This is also true of the flu, which covid is.

FFS do your homework, and stop arguing from your half baked theories to the evidence. Look at ALL the evidence, then build a model and IF SOMEONE COMES UP WITH A COMPELLING COUNTEREXPLANATION, LOOK INTO IT. that's basic intellectual honesty, and the opposite is teenage ego.

Same to you. Covid was the flu. There are zero compelling counterarguments.

go to FB and look at the long hauler groups. many of the people in those groups are vax injured, but many are like me, unjabbed.

Is that more valuable than statistical evidence showing hospital admission rates, ICU admission rates, etc., were flat until the vaxx came out?

the number of people who like me are never jabbed and disabled by Long Covid is not tiny

It’s also not higher than those who experience the same outcome from the flu in years prior. The rate of such issues only went up when the vaxx came out.

I survived because I didn;t go to the hospital and the people who died with COVID in the hospital were killed by the vent, and remdesivir and incompetence (no steroids to address ARDS)

We agree on this point. Smart thinking not to go to a death centre.

Most of us with LC have it because high dose corticosteroids were suppressed by the establishment. Chetty et al. didn't figure it out until it was too late for me but people who got COVID and had the allergic propensity to organizing pneumonia, AND got high dose prednisone on the 8th day of symptoms have NO LONG COVID.

Of course, this was standard procedure for severe flu/pneumonia in years prior.

I can definitely agree with you that irrational changes to established procedures accounts for any additional deaths during the pre-vaxx covid crazy times. I mean, remember NY (and many other places) moving flu patients from hospitals equipped to deal with them to care homes unequipped to deal with them to make room in hospitals for a wave of patients the obviously defective models said was coming?

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

"we don't know the prevalence with LC but it's real, it's not small,

Long flu was real before too. At the same rate."

prove it

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

There have always been long term injuries from flu cold and pneumonia.

https://www.nurse.com/blog/pneumonias-long-term-effects-comparable-to-mi/

Were you born in 2019? Do you have zero recollection of life before covid?

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

"LC also went up after the vaxx came out. Before then it (long covid/long flu, same thing) was flat for years."

bullshit

I have had the flu many times and never had 'long flu'

and no one I know ever had it either

how do we know this ? because it was never named as an identifiable syndrome

you are just making stuff up now, it'snot a good look

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

Well of course not. The odds of anyone sustaining a long term flu/cold/pneumonia injury was always low. If you had received a long term flu injury then got long covid, odds would be very good you’re very old.

how do we know this ? because it was never named as an identifiable syndrome

This is precisely right. Since hospitalization rates, all cause mortality rates, ICU admission rates, etc., were flat before and after covid, we can only conclude that they changed the way they categorize illness. Long term pneumonia etc., injuries didn’t have any media attention or a snappy name. So, brainlets like you just assumed they didn’t exist.

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

the flu, which covid is.

enough independent labs around the world have sequenced the DNA and found that its a coronavirus, not an influenza, with HIV inclusions and produces a spike protein with affinity for ACE-2 receptors which abound in circulatory epithelium, which accounts for the clots and chronic peripheral hypoperfusion

this is getting boring, you're no good at this

you're not a serious person

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

Enough independent scientists and doctors lied repeatedly about every aspect of covid to make this argument utterly worthless.

Trust the experts

Lol fuck.

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– Sivispacem 12 points 83 days ago +12 / -0

Something doesn't feel right about this. A unanimous vote to support something they have mocked, ridiculed, fired, banned and blacklisted anyone who has questioned the media and state-backed narratives for the past 2 years?

This is perhaps the most dysfunctional generation of congress in history acting in UNISON on something. That alone should be a massive red flag.

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– CommieCucker 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

Incoming gaslighting

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– RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

yeah not only that but I've shitposting about this on FB for years but TODAY when I went to lay ot all out - profile can't post - silenced. today

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– ProudConservativeNY 1 point 82 days ago +3 / -2

THIS! 💯%

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– yurimodin 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

This ☝️☝️☝️☝️

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– cptKloss2 9 points 83 days ago +9 / -0

they vote together, only because they're desperate to stop China joining forces with Russia - the only reason this is a thing so "suddenly"

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– IncredibleMrE1 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Correct.

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– Thelongrun 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Astute observation.

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– TommyJarvis 6 points 83 days ago +6 / -0

I suppose "It was a totally, super real virus and it came from a lab in China" is preferable to "It was a psyop built around mundane influenza to get rid of Trump and kickstart the Great Reset".

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– BadManOrange91 6 points 83 days ago +7 / -1

This is precursor to WW3. When it's THIS bipartisan, you know it's theatrics.

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– Owmyballz 5 points 83 days ago +5 / -0

I wonder what people are going to do when they find out the US financed the development of Covid in the first place....

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– FinsterBaby 0 points 83 days ago +1 / -1

Don't tell OP, he'll shit his Depends diapers.

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– MythArcana 5 points 83 days ago +6 / -1

Incoming veto because Hunter is involved.

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– yebs_nightstand 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Probably pulling on his dick somewhere on camera too.

"Thanks Pop, can you wire me another $50 grand?"

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– deleted 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0
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– Coprolite 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Won't it go to the Senate then Biden's desk? Didn't Mitch McConnell "fall" and fetterman is in the "hospital" so Kamala is still the tiebreaker.

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– suitwo_wtr 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Unanimous votes mean this is something they want, and while on the surface that sounds stupid I think everyone here realises how suspicious it is for even the Democrats to look more into something they've said for years was a fake narrative.

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– bigrex64 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

this is where the world finds out how compromised Biden is, when he vetoes this.

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– bigrex64 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

yeah, but my point is if he DOES try to veto it, it will show who controls him.

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– TheFountainhead 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

When the entire chamber is unanimous, assume war is coming.

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– CT2099 3 points 83 days ago +4 / -1

Either A) they've decided they're gonna go after China for global reparations so they can get more money or B) the deep state has already destroyed what evidence there is of the US involvement and they're trying to keep us from finding out

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– Margej 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

Oleksiivshchyna, Ukraine - a village just outside of Kyiv near an area that Russia occupied for a month.

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– Wexit-Delecto 3 points 83 days ago +3 / -0

No, it was always just the flu. This is the zog’s response to Chy-na backing Russia in Ukraine.

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– TheSpeakerfortheDead 2 points 83 days ago +11 / -9

WRONG!! It was the US

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– RedneckWhiteandBlue 7 points 83 days ago +7 / -0

just like nordstream

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– HiGoodnightEverybody 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

The permanent bureaucracy will just ignore it, and no one will do anything about it. This is all just lip service.

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– CCwatcher 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Biden vetos it anyway.

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– catsfive 2 points 83 days ago +3 / -1

Pocket veto incoming

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– catsfive 2 points 83 days ago +3 / -1

(pocket veto is me trying to guess that Biden won't sign it and just let it lapse into law

ChatGPT:

A pocket veto is a legislative veto exercised by the President of the United States by taking no action (not signing or vetoing) on a bill passed by Congress during the final days of a congressional session, effectively killing the bill. Here are some examples of successful and unsuccessful pocket vetoes used by U.S. presidents:

Two most famous instances of a president using a pocket veto successfully:

In 1947, President Harry S. Truman used a pocket veto to kill the Taft-Hartley Act, which would have restricted the power of labor unions. In 1975, President Gerald Ford used a pocket veto to kill the Energy Policy and Conservation Act, which would have imposed price controls on domestic oil. Two instances of a president using a pocket veto unsuccessfully:

In 2006, President George W. Bush attempted to use a pocket veto to stop the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, but his veto was deemed invalid because Congress was still in session. In 1996, President Bill Clinton attempted to use a pocket veto to stop the Line Item Veto Act, but his veto was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court because it violated the presentment clause of the Constitution.

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– Trump-16-20-24-28-32 1 point 80 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the context! I forgot about this.

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– Not_your_King 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

I don't trust anything that has unanimous democrat support.

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– fponick 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

Nothing will happen. There are no CONSEQUENCES for criminal behavior anymore.

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– Ocineaa 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

The answer is China AND the US government through Peter Dasick and EcoHealth Alliance

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– Floppyseconds 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

I think it was made in ukraine with the help of Obama/Faucci. Chyna knew this so they had a scapegoat as well. In the end Trump doesn't become president, China quells their protest, massive start for the great reset and no one can actually be blamed with 100% certainty because everyone colluded together. Everyone always forgets Moderna had the patent on the virus years ago. China didn't need to develop anything. China was spraying the shit in the streets and also with drones. The us made the vaccines and distributed them through trump and operation warp speed. Trump then pushes back against Faucci but still brags about the vaccine. Seems kinda fishy everyone has an out. In the end the NWO gets what they want. Power, depopulation, war and the beginning of a dystopian one world government where only the civilians are held accountable.

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– dakin116 2 points 82 days ago +2 / -0

The real crime is how our own country responded to a pandemic, with arbitrary rules and pointless mask mandates. Not to mention shutting down business and crashing the economy. We never needed any of that, and then they take it a step further with the Clot Shot. All for Covid which was a rebranded Flu

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– Itscrazytime 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah why the sudden change of heart, and by every single person at that.

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– Bitchincamaro 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

They will all say it was Trump's fault.

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– TraitorJoes [S] 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

FYI:

The last bill to pass 419-0 was regarding the Chinese Spy Balloon.

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– Tefl0nDon 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

seems fishy, some fuckery is afoot

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– MemeWarsVet 2 points 83 days ago +2 / -0

If it's unanimous, it's rigged.

It. . . IT CAME FROM MAR A LAGO!

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– k_the_c 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

Something fishy about this.

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– DarkRiver 1 point 83 days ago +1 / -0

Senile Joe won't sign it.

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– MyOathNeverEnded 1 point 82 days ago +1 / -0

"requires Bidens signature"....

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