Replying for clarification that the pope mentioned above is jesuit pope francis. Not everyone is up to speed on the catholic situation with the antichrist jesuit pope.
Do you remember when "Is the pope Catholic?" used to be a way to say something was true? And now it's just an interesting thought experiment because the answer is clearly no.
He looks pissed. is it possible that 6 out of 10 boys he tried to bless this week by kissing their penis did not in fact have a penis. This shit has to stop. The man is busy and these fake boys are wasting his time
You guys have to understand, they can speak out of both sides of their mouth.
They will always speak fair and act foul.
The Pope is the most well-known Christian leader in the world, and he is wishy-washy on his own Catholic doctrine. Marxism is incompatible with scripture. The pope cannot fully condemn Marxism
I love Catholics but I dislike their central leader
I would recommend church hopping at this point.
Please post suggestions below for organized churches that have God as their foundation 👇
There already shooting up and burning churches. Look at what the antifa terrorist did to the jw church in germany recently, or what they did to churches who refuse infantcide
As someone who is totally ignorant on the matter but genuinely curious and wants to learn, can you explain to me what a Jesuit is? Thank you in advance
Jesuits are an order of religious men in the Roman Catholic church. Those who join orders take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. Jesuits also take vows to remain faithful to the Pope. Other examples of Orders are Benedictines, Franciscans and Dominicans.
Jesuits were started by St. Ignatius Loyola in 1541 along with St. Frances Xavior (not to be confused with St. Francis of Assisi that started the Franciscan order).
However, sometime in the 19th century, Jesuits started to stray from Catholic doctrine, disciplines and theology. They became enamored with a heretic Teilhard De Chardin and other post-modern philosophy. They started to develop a certain type of theological reasoning that is called Jesuitical. Although originally this sort of reasoning was an attempt to be fair and high minded, most people now consider it mental reservation, evasive and semantic arguing. An example of Jesuitical reason is when orders proclaimed that religious men and women should not smoke while they pray, a Jesuit asks "Can we pray when we smoke?" The point being, that a good Christian should be in constant prayer so therefore a good Christian should even pray while smoking so what's the problem with going to scheduled formal prayers (Liturgy of the Hours) and smoking.
In the 20th century, many Jesuits have been very Jesuitical about Marxist ideology, having developed a type of theology that is called Liberation Theology. It's basically a blending of Marxism with Catholicism. Eventually, Liberation Theology has influenced many Protestant churches and other religions to blend Marxism with their own religious beliefs. Jesuits led, encouraged and taught many Marxist things throughout Central America, South America, the U.S. Canada, Europe and Asia under the guise of Catholicism. Liberation Theology has been formally condemned as a heresy by the Catholic church but that Jesuitical reasoning has very much obstructed progress in rooting it out of the order and enabled work arounds.
Most informed Catholics consider Jesuits to be a Marxist order that has little interest in the Catholic faith but a whole lot of interest in promoting left wing agendas and ideologies.
Jesuits are basically the Pope's private army. They were founded in 1540 by Ignatius Loyola with the mission of conducting a Counter-reformation, and since then have engaged in espionage, murder, duplicity and sowing discord among nations that were formerly at peace with one another. Look at every president, prime minister etc and you will find Jesuits or people trained at Jesuit universities in either their cabinet or as advisors.
I can find no substantiation for the claim that Jesuits were militant against Protestants. Where do you get that idea? (Other than the Goan Inquisition)
Some answers here claim that Jesuits were militant in oppressing Protestants. I can find no substantiation for that. Instead, a secondary meaning of Jesuit is equivocating. They advance woke agenda. Hitler especially hated them more than other Catholics.
He clearly holds some conservative values, especially in regards to abortion and gender ideology. He’s also written criticisms about Liberation Theology (ie the catholic equivalent of the Unitarian movement in America).
I think he is just naive. He seems to be under the misguided notion that globalism and Christianity are compatible.
I stopped caring what this Satanic faggot has to say after he said there is no hell and that you can get to heaven on your works. If a religious figure contradicts the Bible, they are an antiChrist and/or false prophet.
Read ecclesiastes 9:5. The dead know not anything. When you die you go into the grave and decompose. Only when Jesus comes again are the dead raised. Read 1Thess 4:14-18.
I'm not sure if you've ever discussed this issue with a Catholic but just like many other Scriptural "contradictions" this one is resolved correctly with context. Your first verse may have been a proper understanding of death in the OT but once Christ opened the gates of heaven this changed in obvious ways. As far as Thessalonians is concerned, these verses describe the raising of our corrupt bodies from the grave that they made be made incorrupt as God intended. The souls of the dead are not dead, death in this case refers to the separation of body and soul.
Is purgatory like the church impound lot or the line at the DMV? How much to get my gramps released? Does the church just take cash or can I mine some hell Mary’s? Is there a fast pass line if we pay extra? This idea like penance was invented out of thin air to squeeze money out of the congregation.
One unpunished pedo priest is like a cup of sewage in a barrel of wine. Nobody wants to drink it because it’s all sewage now. If the pope doesn’t understand the millstone around the neck, then he is just another pedo devil. All their words are just noise. Actions speak louder.
Christ teaches it in the gospels (esp. John) and His Apostles Peter, Paul and John teach it in the epistles. My Lord and his Apostles are not heretics but many of the men you venerate were, including all your antichrists claiming authority over The Lord's church.
Purgatory is real. It's the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. Evidence for it is found in Maccabees and the parable of shrewd unfaithful servant in the gospels. One of the earliest Christian martyrs, St. Perpetua wrote about Purgatory and the earliest Christians believed in Purgatory.
Maccabees has been part of the official Roman Catholic Canon since 400 AD when the Canon was approved. Before then, there was no official canon at all.
well, I suppose you're trying to point out that the second part of the Divine Comedy, Purgatorio is fiction and you don't know enough to make the point without referring to the first part of the Divine Comedy.
The entire Divine Comedy is fiction but it does incorporate a lot of the pious beliefs of the faithful. It also has a lot of errors from the RCC point of view.
So many people have been turned off to Christianity by this horrible and non biblical teaching of an eternally burning hell and punishment. Its sad. Probably millions of people being lost because of how the catholic church misrepresented God's character in order to garner obedience through fear. And sadly most protestant churches teach this heresy. A just and loving God does not punish a man for eternity for 80 years of bad decisions. They will burn, unfortunately that part is true. But it will be a short time and then they will exist no more forever. And even having to do that is painful for God. He calls it "a strange act"
Annihilationism was taught in the early Church, as a minority position. There has never been unanimous agreement on the topic. All we really know is all Judgment is given unto the Son.
The big communist nations, China & Soviet Union both, would not tolerate gays, nor later, trans. Even today they're forbidden school subjects. Even Putin, though a prolific liar, knows the great danger those views/lifestyles are to a society.
You can tell leftists are exposing their true selves when they push fascism here as if banning this one element of degeneracy makes an entire ideology legit.
When you tell them the commies did the same thing, they freak out because it reveals fascists and communists are way too similar for them to be diametrically opposed. The way capitalism is opposed to statism\central control like in fascism and communism.
Fascism evolved from Communism, after all. Mussolini used to be a Communist, until he decided that cultural identity was a more adhesive property than economic identity. So, because of that, he decided it was Italians versus non-Italians, rather than Factory Workers (and more importantly the "intellectuals" who shall lead them) versus everyone else.
The Fabian Society should be thoroughly understood by everyone here! It's easy to research they don't hide their motives. There also seems to be lots of overlap with Jesuits, so I wonder if they aren't behind it?
No he didn't. He's always been pretty clear on the issue, which is stunning given how meandering and unclear he can be on any number of other important issues.
I mean, his position on the zeitgeist of today is pretty clear - and not in line with satan. There are a thousand reasons to be upset with this papacy, but him being “the antichrist” isn’t one of them.
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church says that same sex attraction is inherently disordered and homosexual sexual behavior is a mortal sin. Show me another mainline Christian denomination in the U.S. that says that as part of their official teachings.
Most mainline protestant churches hold that stance. Just do a search of "XXXX church official position on homosexuality" inserting whatever denomination you want. No reason for everyone else to do your homework for you.
The Episcopalians in the U.S. appointed the first gay bishop, who also broke his marriage vows to his wife, in the 1990's. The ELCA, the largest Lutheran denomination in America is officially not only permissive of homosexuality but married same sex couples. Methodists caused a schism in their denomination by adopting rules that allow same sex marriage. The reality is that most mainline protestant denominations do support same sex marriage and homosexual activity.
Most Lutherans in the U.S. belong to the ELCA. They are the largest Lutheran denomination. I agree that Episcopalians today are probably not Christian and are an apostate church however, officially, they maintain they are Christian and they do officially state they believe in the Holy Trinity and the Hypostatic Union which according to the Roman Catholic church are the two beliefs that are required in order to be recogniseable Christian.
I tried looking up numbers for the 3 Lutheran synods I know of. I couldn't find it so I didn't address the claim. Further, the only data I did find was for "baptized members," and I know that can include people who haven't attended in decades, moved away, might be duplicated in different parishes due to moving, etc. Weekly attendance might be a more valid indicator?
What info do you have? I found a little over 3MM ELCA and articles about declining numbers, but that's all.
I have no idea what point you're objecting to. I'm going to assume it's about the ELCA being the largest Lutheran group in the U.S.
In 2015, Pew Research estimated that 1.4 percent of the U.S. population self-identifies with the ELCA.[6] It is the seventh-largest Christian denomination by reported membership,[7] and the largest Lutheran denomination in the United States.[8] The next two largest Lutheran denominations are the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS) (with over 1.8 million baptized members[9]) and the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) (with approximately 340,000 members).[10]
Just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean Protestant Christians believe it. Most Protestant Christians don't really bother with the Bible anymore, or anything Christian beyond saying "I'm Christian".
Yes, it does because a Pope speaking unofficially and not ex cathedra, does not speak for the Church. This is also an official teaching of the Church. Furthermore, Pope Francis has not endorsed homosexual activity or same sex marriage. The most he has said is "Who am I to judge" which is not an abrogation from church teaching but simply an imprudent and ambivalent thing to say.
No one is dismissing the obvious shortcomings of Pope Francis or any other bad Pope Catholics have had. It's simply to say that Francis is a bad Pope and most of what he says is utterly ignorable.
correct...he was forced to do this, his clergy around the Western world are getting mighty fed up with the nonsense. The Vatican then comes up with a half assed comment in the hopes of not inflaming the mentally ill.
Hey Vatican! It's time to take a side and unequivocally declare the stance. The Church can no longer be a little bit pregnant on the matter in the hope of placating the mentally ill trannies and faggots.
Officially, the Church already has a stance. "Gender flows from biological sex and is not in contradiction to it." The Magisterium, the teaching office of the Church even says that those who change their baptismal names given by their parents are rebelling against the authority given to parents to name their parents and therefore are breaking the obligation to honor their father and mother. The Church is careful to make the distinction that this is not meant to include who with good reason find that they have to change their name or take a stage name or alias but those who are trying to take the role of creator by reinventing themselves in a way that challenges their innate nature as man or woman.
Trying to save his satanic soul here at the end of the age. I don’t believe God Almighty looks kindly upon this jesuit pope encouraging ~1.2 Catholics globally to take the low, wide road to damnation.
Idk why people downvoted that.. I would say yes, with a whole bunch of unnecessary ritual thrown in. And I don't say that to cast any shade, it's just that the bible clearly states that it's not through our works that we are granted access to Christ, but through his grace, love, and forgiveness.
If someone wants to engage in ritual practice as a symbol of their devotion to God, I have no issue whatsoever, but failure to perform any such ritual doesn't matter to God.
Lol no. It’s all part of the game the elites like to play.
hes been making that point a while, media just lied about it same way they lied about everything else.
As a Catholic, I completely concur. He's said so many things that full on directly contradict scripture.
Or is it the secular/FM media twisting his words?
Why not both??
They are trying to turn Catholics away from the Pope. Freemasons have been on this kick for a while.
https://politicalvelcraft.org/catholic-church-vs-freemasons-nwo/
-I- am trying to turn Catholics against the pope because I think he's a globohomo communist faggot sympathizer.
No idea what the freemasons are doing..
Column A & Column B
https://politicalvelcraft.org/catholic-church-vs-freemasons-nwo/
Methinks the Freemason media is up to no good.
Pope Carlo Maria Viganò
If that's the full name of the based bishop, I can think of worse options.
Replying for clarification that the pope mentioned above is jesuit pope francis. Not everyone is up to speed on the catholic situation with the antichrist jesuit pope.
I don’t acknowledge the Jesuit anti pope. That whole heretical order needs to be cleansed
"Mentioned above" as in the overall topic, not this comment chain right?
Is having a pope in scripture?
No. In fact, it contradicts scripture. Pray to God Almighty. Pray to Jesus.
RCs don't pray to the pope, so you're off track there.
Well, according to Daniel chapters 7 and 8 as well as Revelation 12 and 13 the papacy is the literal antichrist so you're not far off bro.
Do you remember when "Is the pope Catholic?" used to be a way to say something was true? And now it's just an interesting thought experiment because the answer is clearly no.
I just ask, "is the pope communist?" And everyone still says yes
Bears don't shit in the woods anymore, obviously.
My new one is "is Joe Biden a pedophile?" Even when bears stop shitting in the woods you can still count on Pedo Joe
Biden is a “catholic”. Clearly an antichrist just like this jesuit pope.
Kek!
He looks pissed. is it possible that 6 out of 10 boys he tried to bless this week by kissing their penis did not in fact have a penis. This shit has to stop. The man is busy and these fake boys are wasting his time
6 out of 10 Altar boys agree?
If an anti-Christ currently exists, then an anti-Pope must exist as well.
Clown World seems to be pretty strong evidence of an anti-Christ existing right now.
this jesuit pope is an anti-Christ for sure.
Yea no. Francis is a piece of shit, this is just theater. They throw a bone every once in a while to calm people down.
Probably referring to monetary value on the 2nd hand market, not spiritual value.
Yep. Fake basedness to fool the low IQ into accepting obvious marxists.
First church of the fake basedness?
You guys have to understand, they can speak out of both sides of their mouth.
They will always speak fair and act foul.
The Pope is the most well-known Christian leader in the world, and he is wishy-washy on his own Catholic doctrine. Marxism is incompatible with scripture. The pope cannot fully condemn Marxism
I love Catholics but I dislike their central leader
I would recommend church hopping at this point.
Please post suggestions below for organized churches that have God as their foundation 👇
Traditional Catholic. The "institutional Church" fell into heresy and outright apostasy long ago.
Fellow Catholic here, this is the answer
Jesuits are against Christ and do their best to sully His name.
It seems to go in cycles if history is corrct.
I've not seen that theory yet. The growth of the Church was linear until recently.
Orthodox church is still here, maintaining the tradition the Papists left behind for the shiny baubles of innovation.
You mean political power and the ability to wage war
Not all Orthodox priests are based. Be wary. Some are leftists in robes.
Being wary is always good advice!
In EO the human power of the church has always been the laity; servant leadership. Any woke Priest can be replaced.
Can confirm. This is definitely the way.
The Orthodox church didn't exist until 1054.
Good one
Great Schism, look it up.
Yep. The Pope was the first Protestant.
That's just dumb.
One step forward, two steps back. Sowing confusion and demoralization. The Vatican shuffle.
EO
oca.org
antiochan.org
Yep, now its gonna be #CancelFrancis
Pure Popium
Two more weeks? Two pachamammas?
This will get the antifa trannies firebombing catholic churches.
They're already firebombing churches in protest of the Supreme Court abortion decision.
They were firebombing churches before the Dobbs decision.
With government blessing and protection.
That's the plan. Comments meant to encourage hatred
There already shooting up and burning churches. Look at what the antifa terrorist did to the jw church in germany recently, or what they did to churches who refuse infantcide
Dude they already are lulz. Garland is clapping his peanut butter hands in glee.
They already do that
He has given good pro-life statements, too. Sadly, two correct points does not make him right about other things.
His stances on things are weird.
I think a correct term would be Globalist-Lite.
He’s a Christo-communist.
You misspelled “Jesuit”
You misspelled Luciferian.
As someone who is totally ignorant on the matter but genuinely curious and wants to learn, can you explain to me what a Jesuit is? Thank you in advance
Jesuits are an order of religious men in the Roman Catholic church. Those who join orders take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience. Jesuits also take vows to remain faithful to the Pope. Other examples of Orders are Benedictines, Franciscans and Dominicans.
Jesuits were started by St. Ignatius Loyola in 1541 along with St. Frances Xavior (not to be confused with St. Francis of Assisi that started the Franciscan order).
However, sometime in the 19th century, Jesuits started to stray from Catholic doctrine, disciplines and theology. They became enamored with a heretic Teilhard De Chardin and other post-modern philosophy. They started to develop a certain type of theological reasoning that is called Jesuitical. Although originally this sort of reasoning was an attempt to be fair and high minded, most people now consider it mental reservation, evasive and semantic arguing. An example of Jesuitical reason is when orders proclaimed that religious men and women should not smoke while they pray, a Jesuit asks "Can we pray when we smoke?" The point being, that a good Christian should be in constant prayer so therefore a good Christian should even pray while smoking so what's the problem with going to scheduled formal prayers (Liturgy of the Hours) and smoking.
In the 20th century, many Jesuits have been very Jesuitical about Marxist ideology, having developed a type of theology that is called Liberation Theology. It's basically a blending of Marxism with Catholicism. Eventually, Liberation Theology has influenced many Protestant churches and other religions to blend Marxism with their own religious beliefs. Jesuits led, encouraged and taught many Marxist things throughout Central America, South America, the U.S. Canada, Europe and Asia under the guise of Catholicism. Liberation Theology has been formally condemned as a heresy by the Catholic church but that Jesuitical reasoning has very much obstructed progress in rooting it out of the order and enabled work arounds.
Most informed Catholics consider Jesuits to be a Marxist order that has little interest in the Catholic faith but a whole lot of interest in promoting left wing agendas and ideologies.
Pope Francis is a Jesuit.
This guy prays
Damn son
Jesuits are not Christian.
They're not even Catholic. Hahahahahaha!
Jesuits love "social justice"
Jesuits are basically the Pope's private army. They were founded in 1540 by Ignatius Loyola with the mission of conducting a Counter-reformation, and since then have engaged in espionage, murder, duplicity and sowing discord among nations that were formerly at peace with one another. Look at every president, prime minister etc and you will find Jesuits or people trained at Jesuit universities in either their cabinet or as advisors.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
(Sounds very similar, including the capes and 'staches)
Jesuits were started as the military arm of the catholic church to put down the Protestant Reformation. Here is a photo of the founder, Loyola, stomping a Protestant with a Bible still on display at the vatican: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/rome-italy-may-founder-statue-st-ignatius-loyola-camillo-giuseppe-rusconi-left-nave-papal-st-peter-s-basilica-243782270.jpg
I can find no substantiation for the claim that Jesuits were militant against Protestants. Where do you get that idea? (Other than the Goan Inquisition)
Some answers here claim that Jesuits were militant in oppressing Protestants. I can find no substantiation for that. Instead, a secondary meaning of Jesuit is equivocating. They advance woke agenda. Hitler especially hated them more than other Catholics.
Best I can do.
This seems to be it. Jesuits amass power and do things i don't understand.
evil, jesuits do evil.
Evildoers, you might say?
you mean anti-semite, right?
Emphasis on the communist
I can’t call him a full communist.
He clearly holds some conservative values, especially in regards to abortion and gender ideology. He’s also written criticisms about Liberation Theology (ie the catholic equivalent of the Unitarian movement in America).
I think he is just naive. He seems to be under the misguided notion that globalism and Christianity are compatible.
This is, of course, wrong.
He's not naive. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's mocked the Faith since he was an altar boy.
Then why the based views on abortion and gender?
No based views. None.
But he literally said he was against Abortion and that there are only 2 genders.
Isn’t that based by our definition?
Provide some examples of him mocking the faith from the age of a child to current day.
anti-Christ jesuit pope
You mean anti-Christ communist jesuit pope, right?
He knows his audience would balk entirely if he went full globalist, so he's got to normalize it slowly.
He’s already gone to far. Anti-christ LARPing as a Christian.
Like his wearing the man boy love symbol on his robe for international children's day.
He supports pro abortion degenerates just not very loud about it.
Communist broken clock
exactly right!
I stopped caring what this Satanic faggot has to say after he said there is no hell and that you can get to heaven on your works. If a religious figure contradicts the Bible, they are an antiChrist and/or false prophet.
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=works
Consider please.
There is no purgatory. Either Christ has saved you by grace through faith, or you will be judged eternally for your works of darkness. Romans 8
Purgatory doesn't save. It purges the saved.
The damned are damned.
Read ecclesiastes 9:5. The dead know not anything. When you die you go into the grave and decompose. Only when Jesus comes again are the dead raised. Read 1Thess 4:14-18.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/do-the-dead-know-nothing
Please read and consider the above.
I'm not sure if you've ever discussed this issue with a Catholic but just like many other Scriptural "contradictions" this one is resolved correctly with context. Your first verse may have been a proper understanding of death in the OT but once Christ opened the gates of heaven this changed in obvious ways. As far as Thessalonians is concerned, these verses describe the raising of our corrupt bodies from the grave that they made be made incorrupt as God intended. The souls of the dead are not dead, death in this case refers to the separation of body and soul.
Is purgatory like the church impound lot or the line at the DMV? How much to get my gramps released? Does the church just take cash or can I mine some hell Mary’s? Is there a fast pass line if we pay extra? This idea like penance was invented out of thin air to squeeze money out of the congregation.
When protestants argue like atheists...
Do you really not know what the Church teaches or are you just repeating misrepresentations of doctrines we hold? We can go from there.
One unpunished pedo priest is like a cup of sewage in a barrel of wine. Nobody wants to drink it because it’s all sewage now. If the pope doesn’t understand the millstone around the neck, then he is just another pedo devil. All their words are just noise. Actions speak louder.
That does not answer my question even a little. Any Christian sinner poisons the well if you want to take that line.
There is purgatory.
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=purgatory
The early church did NOT teach this. This is heresy.
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=works
Christ teaches it in the gospels (esp. John) and His Apostles Peter, Paul and John teach it in the epistles. My Lord and his Apostles are not heretics but many of the men you venerate were, including all your antichrists claiming authority over The Lord's church.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/why-james-says-faith-without-works-is-dead
Faith without works is dead.
Purgatory is real. It's the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. Evidence for it is found in Maccabees and the parable of shrewd unfaithful servant in the gospels. One of the earliest Christian martyrs, St. Perpetua wrote about Purgatory and the earliest Christians believed in Purgatory.
Maccabees? You mean the book that is part of the apocryphal texts which the Catholic church left out of the official Canon? Got it.
PROTESTANTS removed books from the Bible, not the Catholic church.
Nice try.
https://www.catholic.com/qa/didnt-the-catholic-church-add-to-the-bible
umm, no. Maccabees is part of the official canon and was always part of the Christian Bible until Martin Luther decided it wasn't in the 1530's.
Isn’t that what he said
No.
Martin Luther did no such thing. Getting digs in based on falsehoods helps nothing.
yeah, he did.
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/why-did-martin-luther-remove-books-from-bible
He removed Tobit, Judith, and 1 Maccabees and 2 Maccabees. Wisdom of Solomon and Wisdom of Sirach (also known as Ecclesiasticus).
Martin Luther also attempted to remove Peter, James and Jude.
Read it for yourself:
https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/martin-luther-james-bible
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/the-epistle-of-straw-reflections-on-luther-and-the-epistle-of-james/
Maccabees has been part of the official Roman Catholic Canon since 400 AD when the Canon was approved. Before then, there was no official canon at all.
Dante’s Inferno is not fiction.
well, I suppose you're trying to point out that the second part of the Divine Comedy, Purgatorio is fiction and you don't know enough to make the point without referring to the first part of the Divine Comedy.
The entire Divine Comedy is fiction but it does incorporate a lot of the pious beliefs of the faithful. It also has a lot of errors from the RCC point of view.
Well he's right. There is no hell
FAFO
So many people have been turned off to Christianity by this horrible and non biblical teaching of an eternally burning hell and punishment. Its sad. Probably millions of people being lost because of how the catholic church misrepresented God's character in order to garner obedience through fear. And sadly most protestant churches teach this heresy. A just and loving God does not punish a man for eternity for 80 years of bad decisions. They will burn, unfortunately that part is true. But it will be a short time and then they will exist no more forever. And even having to do that is painful for God. He calls it "a strange act"
Where is this quote?
Annihilationism was taught in the early Church, as a minority position. There has never been unanimous agreement on the topic. All we really know is all Judgment is given unto the Son.
The Pope is the legitimate leader of Christ's Church
It is blasphemy to mention Jesus Christ and this anti-Christ pope in the same sentence.
Pachamamma
All commies are faggots though.
And all faggots are commies
commies work for satan
Communists aren't even people ;)
The big communist nations, China & Soviet Union both, would not tolerate gays, nor later, trans. Even today they're forbidden school subjects. Even Putin, though a prolific liar, knows the great danger those views/lifestyles are to a society.
Yup.
You can tell leftists are exposing their true selves when they push fascism here as if banning this one element of degeneracy makes an entire ideology legit.
When you tell them the commies did the same thing, they freak out because it reveals fascists and communists are way too similar for them to be diametrically opposed. The way capitalism is opposed to statism\central control like in fascism and communism.
Fascism evolved from Communism, after all. Mussolini used to be a Communist, until he decided that cultural identity was a more adhesive property than economic identity. So, because of that, he decided it was Italians versus non-Italians, rather than Factory Workers (and more importantly the "intellectuals" who shall lead them) versus everyone else.
How aware of Fabian socialism are you?
The Fabian Society should be thoroughly understood by everyone here! It's easy to research they don't hide their motives. There also seems to be lots of overlap with Jesuits, so I wonder if they aren't behind it?
Hitler was also in the communist party, imagine that.
Communist nations are already under complete globalist control, no need to demoralize them with trannys.
Now he sees what tolerating degeneracy does? Too late faggot.
https://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2023/03/11/pope-francis-declares-gender-ideology-as-dangerous-to-civilization/
He knows he’s gone to far and is now trying to save his ass from eternal damnation.
He has to pretend to be Catholic at least a couple times a year.
Easter is upon us
Username checks out!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeGLtLayNUc
What a fucking scammer. He's said the opposite not more than a few months ago
No he didn't. He's always been pretty clear on the issue, which is stunning given how meandering and unclear he can be on any number of other important issues.
this anti-christ supports and promotes a satanic agenda.
I mean, his position on the zeitgeist of today is pretty clear - and not in line with satan. There are a thousand reasons to be upset with this papacy, but him being “the antichrist” isn’t one of them.
Further explanation and discussion about that is warranted.
Prove it.
Saying no to gender ideologies but being okay with homosexuality is pretty lol worthy.
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church says that same sex attraction is inherently disordered and homosexual sexual behavior is a mortal sin. Show me another mainline Christian denomination in the U.S. that says that as part of their official teachings.
Most mainline protestant churches hold that stance. Just do a search of "XXXX church official position on homosexuality" inserting whatever denomination you want. No reason for everyone else to do your homework for you.
The Episcopalians in the U.S. appointed the first gay bishop, who also broke his marriage vows to his wife, in the 1990's. The ELCA, the largest Lutheran denomination in America is officially not only permissive of homosexuality but married same sex couples. Methodists caused a schism in their denomination by adopting rules that allow same sex marriage. The reality is that most mainline protestant denominations do support same sex marriage and homosexual activity.
Very convenient that you omit that Lutherans split over the issue and only ELCA does anything like that.
Episcopalians? Apostate.
It is convenient. It's also true and the ELCA is the largest Lutheran denomination by more than half.
Most Lutherans in the U.S. belong to the ELCA. They are the largest Lutheran denomination. I agree that Episcopalians today are probably not Christian and are an apostate church however, officially, they maintain they are Christian and they do officially state they believe in the Holy Trinity and the Hypostatic Union which according to the Roman Catholic church are the two beliefs that are required in order to be recogniseable Christian.
Speaking as a Lutheran, you are WRONG.
I tried looking up numbers for the 3 Lutheran synods I know of. I couldn't find it so I didn't address the claim. Further, the only data I did find was for "baptized members," and I know that can include people who haven't attended in decades, moved away, might be duplicated in different parishes due to moving, etc. Weekly attendance might be a more valid indicator?
What info do you have? I found a little over 3MM ELCA and articles about declining numbers, but that's all.
I have no idea what point you're objecting to. I'm going to assume it's about the ELCA being the largest Lutheran group in the U.S.
Lutherans in MCLS and WELS are sane. Pick on LCMS though, gotta pump those numbers up!
Most Lutherans that don't belong to the ELCA are pretty good as far as social conservatism goes.
Seventh Day Adventists.
It’s in the Bible so pretty much all of the Christian religions support this. It is part of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean Protestant Christians believe it. Most Protestant Christians don't really bother with the Bible anymore, or anything Christian beyond saying "I'm Christian".
Doesn't matter when the pope contradicts all that.
Yes, it does because a Pope speaking unofficially and not ex cathedra, does not speak for the Church. This is also an official teaching of the Church. Furthermore, Pope Francis has not endorsed homosexual activity or same sex marriage. The most he has said is "Who am I to judge" which is not an abrogation from church teaching but simply an imprudent and ambivalent thing to say.
Good to know that anything and everything any pope ever says is so easily dismissed 👍
No one is dismissing the obvious shortcomings of Pope Francis or any other bad Pope Catholics have had. It's simply to say that Francis is a bad Pope and most of what he says is utterly ignorable.
correct...he was forced to do this, his clergy around the Western world are getting mighty fed up with the nonsense. The Vatican then comes up with a half assed comment in the hopes of not inflaming the mentally ill.
Hey Vatican! It's time to take a side and unequivocally declare the stance. The Church can no longer be a little bit pregnant on the matter in the hope of placating the mentally ill trannies and faggots.
Officially, the Church already has a stance. "Gender flows from biological sex and is not in contradiction to it." The Magisterium, the teaching office of the Church even says that those who change their baptismal names given by their parents are rebelling against the authority given to parents to name their parents and therefore are breaking the obligation to honor their father and mother. The Church is careful to make the distinction that this is not meant to include who with good reason find that they have to change their name or take a stage name or alias but those who are trying to take the role of creator by reinventing themselves in a way that challenges their innate nature as man or woman.
Good so tell the pope that.
Hard to take anything serious from the CEO of pedos.
satan’s mouthpiece this jesuit pope.
The Europeans are finally souring on the "gender affirming care".
Francis is in Europe.
Sorry Pope. You can't be an a la carte Marxist.
Commie pope is accidentally right..
Fuck you Pope Proletariat the 1st.
I'm an atheist and am more Christian than this Marxist prick
I’m catholic and I view this as classic “walking back” strategy to appear as the good guy
Trying to save his satanic soul here at the end of the age. I don’t believe God Almighty looks kindly upon this jesuit pope encouraging ~1.2 Catholics globally to take the low, wide road to damnation.
He's selling this as a feature, not a bug
Is the pope Catholic?
Really though, like, is he?? Cause I have my doubts.
The question should be are Catholics Christians?
Idk why people downvoted that.. I would say yes, with a whole bunch of unnecessary ritual thrown in. And I don't say that to cast any shade, it's just that the bible clearly states that it's not through our works that we are granted access to Christ, but through his grace, love, and forgiveness.
If someone wants to engage in ritual practice as a symbol of their devotion to God, I have no issue whatsoever, but failure to perform any such ritual doesn't matter to God.
Many of the ~1.2 BILLION Catholics globally are Christians. Not this jesuit antichrist.
He’s still a Commie pope, hate to break it to ya!
God forbid they start sending them altar girls by mistake.
This is the anti-christ that pushed vaccines and homosexuality.
No, he’s wearing a dress and believes that he is the one and only human representative of God.
When he really represents satan.
Get bent, you child fucking communist anti-pope.
He’s still a pedophile protecting, satanic pope.
Broken clock right twice a day? What am I supposed to glean from this Marxist piece of shit's pronouncement here?
Fuck the pope
Even a blind squirrel gets lucky and finds a nut sometimes.
It's a feint!!!!
This reminds me that people care what he says. I'm happy for his red pilling and/or self preservation tactics.
it blurs nothing to the mentally stable. the root issue is the degeneracy trying to push it.
Same pope that just said we need to tolerate LGBT a few weeks ago?