2154 Pelosi needed an “emergency” to suspend debate rules and force Biden through. (twitter.com) posted 84 days ago by KuzoKevin 84 days ago by KuzoKevin +2155 / -1 153 comments share 153 comments share save hide report block hide replies
that is why JAN 6th is such a freaking SETUP by the GOV
cause they know damn well that TRUMP WON IN A MASSIVE LANDSLIDE
they did this so they could throw a smoke screen and certify a STOLEN ELECTION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS!
In the middle of the night. Reminiscent of other things that got shoved down our collective throats when nobody was looking... coughs Federal Reserve cough
U.S. constitution... Cough Cough.
Settle down Patrick Henry LoL! Im pretty much on par with him now too when viewing our system. Antifederalism is the cure for this rotten system I believe.
The Constitution was a project to transfer money from taxpayers to bankers. But that's not a long-standing American tradition or anything.
This is the core of the argument, taken from the Q&A in the Treehouse article:
A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!
♦ Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?
A: Members were allowed to “vote” in proxy, remotely, not being present. You can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”.
Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification, because there were no motions of disagreements on the matter. So, in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!
Don't be antiseptic
Don’t look at the stolen election that we certified in the middle of the night… because…. Civil War x Pearl Harbor + War of 1812 to the 9/11th power!!! That’s how bad it was that meema’s got into the capital!
And the sad thing is that leftards eat that lie up like apple pie.
This was the coup that 1M people knew was happening and showed up to prevent on that day. They had to actually start shooting innocent people to force it through, and to this day there has never even been a TRIAL for that crime. This proves they are above the law.
We got outplanned. Right up to the start of Trump's speech there was no idea what to expect, except that it would be wild.
Had Trump laid out the importance of peacefully allowing the proceedings to advance, they damn well would have proceeded.
Trump didn't tell anyone what to do in advance that day. During his speech he just mentioned marching peacefully and patriotically to the capital to make our voices heard. Said he was going to march up there with folks instead he wasn't seen or heard from for hours.
Had Trump communicated a plan to get the legislative objections into the Congressional record, the planted pipe bombs would have had to be the sole cause for an emergency session. That backup ploy might have succeeded, as Sundance points out. But then we could focus on that hoax. Instead, the pipe bombers are a distant memory for most.
It was wild though. But 'wild' was not a winning plan.
The entire thing was hijacked from the start. I left just a few minutes after the speech (and a quick bio break in a disgusting porta-John). By the time I walked to the congressional building from the oval the tear gas canisters had already been tossed.
No way would Trump walk into that situation. On this occasion he was out foxed.
Hijacked from what plan?? That's the point here. Trump conveyed no plan for how the day would go.
I saw lots of plans here on PDW. None of them said lets make sure to let the session run its course while we listen and protest.
The point that Treehouse makes is that Pelosi needed an emergency session to bypass the motions that would allow future legal challenges to have standing.
Outfoxed doesn't even start to describe Trump's failure to communicate the course of action.
I’ll just put this here because I’m not so sure about either side on this one. I’m not a fan of this article.
Not so much because I don’t like the outcome of it but rather it creates a fantasy land I don’t really believe in.
Too much circular logic and incorrect framing.
That second point is really the bottom line here.
I say this as someone who hates the divisive accounts shitting on Republicans here all day.
The problem here wasn’t Pelosi. The problem was that Republicans who entered the chamber to contest the election ultimately were doing so under a false pretense to win political points.
So when the emergency session started the false pretense was put aside.
Personally I think it would have been more appropriate the challenge things at that point. Indeed it may have saved a lot of protestors time in jail if the same people who were protesting had some sort of real political support.
Instead a bunch of upset congresspeople decided that taking additional time out of their day meant that revenge was in order. Fuck. That.
This isn’t some coincidental bullshit that Pelosi took advantage of, any real challenge to the election would have taken place outside of Congress, and did. The Supreme Court let us down.
A similar challenge from Congress would have been treated the same way.
Democrats had challenges floored in past elections. Did that change the outcome of 2016 even though the DC establishment would have much more preferred that? Nope.
So I just think this is kind of revisionist history.
Yep and it was to run cover so the Uniparty republicans can pretend they "would have" protested
Contanewity of government was implemented.
Just a cunt-hair.
To be fair, poster is a caveman.
It's been going since 9/11
Longer. See the Federal Reserve.
Longer even. See Civil War.
all the Confederate loot went missing after their last meeting - kek
All the citizens that Lincoln locked up because they could've been "problems"
only president to suspend parts of the constitution somehow, and he didn't free any slaves.
More longer even. See whiskey Rebellion.
PAYtriot act. Gotta love it.
Contanewity = Democrat Season.
There's a tiger in the tight fittin' Depends!
Cue the family guy cut-away. . .
WHY WOULD TRUMP DO THIS?!
officer ventilates a civilian “how could MAGA do this?”
I’m confused. Days prior to J6, people on here were talking about how to get to DC with weapons by driving through Virginia. I saw multiple memes about how it’s our duty to go serve on J6 for Trump
On J6 I saw threads during the riot to hold the line and push forward. Are y’all delusional or gaslighting? Probably both
I remember that. People were posting "We're going to arrest the police and break into congress and this and that" and then literally not a single person brought a weapon.
It feels like we got played by someone who wanted all that to happen. Either that or we talked a lot of shit that we weren't willing to back up.
This handshake account says it was here to witness January 6th, and wants to know if "y'all" are gaslighting.
So, you automatically start out under suspicion, because handshake. Then you claim that we were calling for violence (we weren't, I saw and reported one post in new that was taken down). Then you call us "y'all" indicating you ain't one of "y'all".
Fuck off fed. Go suckle Zelensky's toes.
This is false. I'm not handshake. There was a fuck-ton of "cross the Rubicon" and "water the tree of liberty" shit. All purged just before the domain change to patriots .
Here's an archive with thousands of examples:
It's not a "brigade" when it's 80% of the userbase.
Which you already know.
Maybe you should go lie down.
Yeah you'll get downvoted because you're over target. It was a hot mess of shit leading up to it. Archives full of examples are available.
People wanna live in denial about it because they're embarrassed to take a political loss or learn anything from a fubar'd operation.
Link to article - https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/12/the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection/
Really good read. And it explains why we also had fake pipe bombs. And why the FBI has no interest in finding the people who set them out.
The article is a surprisingly good read.
Surprising especially in that 2 years later the difference in the legal ramifications of certifying the vote under emergency session rules.
Pipe bombs was a distant second preference, but they had 'em at the ready at the appointed time.
"Force" Biden through... as if there were more than one or two House members that would have stood up for democracy...
How many opened for debate just prior to the J6 “lockdown”? 6 or 7 was my recollection, and even then it was already a foregone deal for the majority.
It was Gosar and Cruz, The split second they all returned to chambers to debate the stolen election, The perimeters were broken.
Perfect misdirection to allow a farce for the sake of shutting down the discussion. It’s either the biggest red herring or the biggest “look over there!” Moment in living memory.
Seems both of our memories needed a refresher, as several others were involved, although Cruz and Gosar were the most notable:
Yeah it's not like he wasn't going through anyway, there are only a handful of decent representatives.
The crowd outside protesting was meant to put pressure on other members to do the right thing, stand with the people you represent who would have your back.
It very well might have worked too.
The point of the article is that the "No Standing" rulings come because Congress never heard a motion on objections.
Can't be legally expected to follow up on objections if the objections aren't heard.
They always tell us what they're going to do, I can't understand why we don't acknowledge and reciprocate.
We have no way to reciprocate.
Exactly what happened.. some republicans brought up election fraud.. they all got evacuated.. came back.. then Biden got pushed through
i mean, you know they're 100% not going to. what's the point in saying stuff like that? 'shoulds' don't really do much, dude.
The point of the article is that Biden got pushed through under emergency session rules.
If there could have at least been a motion brought up for a vote in the original session then the subsequent lawsuits could have had legal standing.
FTA, there was no motion voted on in the emergency session.
So treason has been confirmed for the 20th time. To subvert an election. This is cut and dry. Let's see if justice is delivered.
Thanks for the explanation!
It’s pedes like you that help change the world.
And that's why other countries laugh at our Shamocracy.
Not the ones who are streaming across our borders.
Hang the witch.
McConnell is equally guilty.
i don't know why you bother saying stuff like that. she won't hang or see a nanosecond of jail and you know it. it's never worked like that here.
This is the most important article I’ve read in the last two years. It’s utterly sickening.
Pence and Pelosi need to be hanged. Fucking Traitors. We need all of their Communications for the month leading up to January 6th
J6 gave a way to shut down the inauguration being open to the public where no one was going to show up. 81 million votes and 81 voters showing up doesn't look good. They keep us gaslighted to believe we're a 50/50 nation of left and right. Honestly it's probably 65/35 right.
She needs to be forced through rehab.
Forced through the wood chipper.
^This shit right here.
Might make sparks. Combustion risk.
Let the mash cook for 4-6 hrs.
I'm beyond ready to give these traitors a prescribed dose of rope and bullets.
Pipe bombs were the back up plan in case trump supporters physically restrained the false flag antifa and deep state plants. There was no stopping their plot.
Correct. Pence could have counted faithless electors just as Biden did. However, Hillary didn't have enough faithless electors to win... Trump did. There's a big difference.
Bro they just straight cheated. Just call it like it is.
Quorum. They didn't have it.
Congress had been asked (as required) by at least 2 members to allow the States time to investigate the allegations of election fraud. The constitutional process for the investigation was initiated by the 2 members call for the investigation.
Then Ashli was shot. The congressmen went and hid. When they returned they all had the same pre-prepared speech, "I will not let violence intimidate me. I vote to (install) Biden and confirm the election results".
That was the coup. It was Pelosi's plan all along. The capitol police report to HER. A capitol policeman shot Ashli.
There were max 6 or 7 Senators who asked for some debate/discussion on it, and they were all forced into abandoning the plan after the “insurrection”. One of the sadder moments of US History when a serious topic that deserved discussion was basically forum-slid into the trash can.
They were intimidated by their collegues. I'm sure they were told they'd be tarnished forever and their family named Mudd. You could see it all in the body language of Kelly Loeffler R (GA) who pledged to object to the electors from the contested states and flipped that night after the "insurrection". She's just the example I remember. Thre were others. God bless Josh Hawley and the REAL MEN who stood up to the feckless COMMUNISTS. aaandd a big fuck you to Mike Pence. History was calling Mikey!
Evryone's got some dirt, cept maybe Truimp.
josh hawley a 'real man' LO FUCKING L. that puny pencil-neck soy faggot isn't even a real Missourian. he claims a room in his sister's house and has never lived there. right after he raised his bony ladyfist for a cool dude photo op, lil guy was pushing all the old ladies out of the way like George Costanza so he could be protected by the Capitol pigs. he's a total fucking coward and a pussy.
And this is why Republicans will always fail.
Because good is dumb.
Says she was shot in the left shoulder which is a blatant lie! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ashli_Babbitt
Even if you believed a conspiracy theory about her not really being dead or whatever, why would you trust Wikipedia as a source about January 6th? The left have fully twisted it into calling it a violent terrorist attack and everything.
Pence also spread like the good faggot he is as well. Ditto with the Military. We only had one friend in Washington that day and in turn he had none but us to stand with him.
What law did she violate by causing a riot to usurp the process?
Your an uninformed idiot. Hey mods! Deport
Hey fucktard I asked a serious question. Maybe if we had less fucking stupid ass morons like you on the right we would have long ago defeated the cheating. “Your”…lol you’re a bottom feeding cousiN fucking moron.
Did you READ the article or just another idiot that couldn't figure out a link existed? Fucking Communist piece of shit
Yep, Pelosi enacted a violent coup to prevent a debate over electors. She even had bombs planted near the Capitol. Q Shaman works for her too. He needs a retrial, this time for treason. Right next to Pelosi, Schumer, and Schiff. AND PENCE.
NOTHING was going to stop the certification of that election. Even if Jan 6th never happened.
Pence was in on it was so was the majority of the republican party. Once the media announced Joe as President elect, it was over, done & dusted.
yeah....blame the patriots. LOL
dc has no fucking rules you faggot
Only one way to end this
How do you message users again? I forget the format
CIA changed votes once the ballots were scanned and went to adjudication.
No shit Sherlock...
Amazing that people are now just realizing