1688 PARIS ....any Frens here telling us more? (twitter.com) posted 6 days ago by obar1 6 days ago by obar1 +1693 / -5 242 comments share 242 comments share save hide report block hide replies
They're mad because the government pension system is broke and they can't retire early any more from their 4-day per week jobs.
Broke because they keep taking in immigrants , kinda like here
yes, a result of being under attack, the weapon being migrants
We're allowed to name the weapon, but not who wields it...
I have a raging clew.
Hew’d you know what he is referring to?
Imagine if the protesters were armed.
All of them have arms
Clearly you have never seen a double amputee French mime.
His material was that.. bad... Poor Gaultier... They made sure he never mimed again.
But he showed them... He mimes with his feet now. Little more difficult to understand when he gets to the rope pulling part as he has to sit down, he just looks like a jellyfish.
Soros destroyed Europe and he is doing the same here through the puppet Biden and the compromised UniParty.
Early being the age of 62. They pushed through a change to 65 here and nobody batted an eyelid. They are routinely lowering our value of life and decimating our wealth and nobody is doing shit about it.
In France, they changed the age from 62 to 64 using Article 49.3 of their Constitution, which allows the President/Dictator, Macron, to pass a law without having to have it voted on in the French National Assembly (basically their Congress). Macron did this because he knew he couldn't get it through the legislature. The change did not have widespread support by the people nor legislators. The excuse for raising the minimum retirement age was to ensure the solvency of the government pension, i.e. their equivalent of Social Security.
Thanks for the explanation, very helpful. Disclaimer first, I'm not American, was wondering if this is in any way similar to your Presidential executive order as those don't seem to require due process by parliament.
We have a sort of similar secondary legislative process in the UK with things called statutory instruments. These are orders issued by department Ministers and are not usually debated or voted on before being passed into law. It is used to fill in the details of Acts (primary legislation). These details provide practical measures that enable the law to be enforced and operate in daily life.
Technically a Presidential "executive order" is just supposed to direct legislation in a passive way, suggesting a direction for the nation.
We've all forgotten about that, though.
Thanks, looks as though it's another abuse of power.
It is. Why congress has allowed it to morph is crazy. It needs to be addressed.
Executive Orders are similar in that they do not need legislative approval, but as the other commenter points out, they have been abused more and more with each president's term. They are just supposed to allow the Executive Branch to carry out the application of existing law.
Also, certain powers are specifically granted to each branch of the U.S. government, and Executive Orders are not in the U.S. Constitution. The French Constitution, however, directly provides for the President's ability to override the legislature, from what I understand.
I really enjoy learning new things, it is definitely one of the positives of this site. Grateful for your time to explain in detail.
Biden is doing the same thing here using Executive Orders. EO's were never meant to replace the process of creating laws or amending the constitution but that's what's been happening since at least Obama and possibly before.
I agree that he's overreaching using EO's but it's not part of our constitution. There's a difference.
you know, I didn't even register the fact that this was part of France's constitution. You're right, there is a difference. In the US there is just overreach and it's getting worse.
They’re going to have to deal with it one way or another. Social security/pensions fail with they don’t have enough contributing workers or when life expectancy rises.
Fuck macron but it’s just reality.
Clot shot is working on the life expectancy side but unfortunately also on the fertility side.
Honestly been thinking the deaths are really more of a miss. Same reason the AR round isn't designed to kill. You kill a solider everyone else in the unit fights, you wound a solider you take him out and two others. It's a resource game. God I hope I'm wrong.
Could be the case, but I personally know many people who have died suddenly since getting it.
Not enough for them though... That's why they went full stop tranny
Technological and process improvements like automation have drastically improved the productivity per worker, and it's not the number of workers but their productivity that should fund these things.
Sorry that doesn’t account for 8 times the number of workers funding a social security recipient at its inception to where we are now. Not even close.
How do you know? Did you run the math? Did you account for the complete lack of anyone even attempting to align the economy to handling this problem?
Align the economy=centrally plan when has the ever worked?
Yes I’ve looked at the math actually in 1945 it was 45 or so worked to oneretiree, now we are around 3 or just under.
I don't see productivity in your math.
Aligning the economy means no more immigrants, useless jobs, bailouts, etc. You can further up productivity by getting rid of dumb shit like DIE jobs, for example. You can have more money to pay social security if you stop bailing out the shitty banks that keep fucking shit up.
The economy has also been centrally planned for a long time. Central banks cause that.
But workers are dumb and don't own shit !
They will eventually switch social security to a means-tested benefit, making it essentially welfare.
Social security was passed as a "retirement plan", back when America was great and the idea of welfare was still unpopular - so the same benefits were given to everyone who contributed to it. Now that they've indoctrinated enough people into socialism, they'll change it to just another welfare benefit paid by the successful to fund the unsuccessful.
If they were only to decimate it. I could have probably lived with a 10% hit.
Only 10% are going to get this lol
We got yeeted to 67 with nary a pepe. Or a peep!
Pretty soon they'll just say work till you die then we'll throw your family a few bucks.
That means we deserve it
That sounds like a system that could work if it weren't for the mass human trafficking that's been happening.
Ponzi schemes all collapse eventually.
BTC to the moon!
Yeah I only trust GME. Not imaginary internet money.
GME going down, BTC going up. buy dip?
No, you sell low, buy high, like a good serf
that's an effective tax avoidance scheme
Greetings from a fellow ape. I'm a Scot and Jan '21 ape.
Of all the rabbit holes I've been down, the financial rabbit hole is the one that blew my fucking mind.
"Ken Griffin, Citadel. What a guy he is." - Donald J. Trump
They're trying to convert everything to electricity which grids can't handle.
Who maintains the Blockchain as global blackouts begin?
DARPA's Space-BACN, I suppose?
The French riot constantly, every time some shit law or regulation gets applied to their working class. Saw what you will about the people, but at least they have a spine.
The problem is that French don't revolt for freedom invasion or stuff like that. They riots only to work less and less. When covid was there, there was barely anyone pushing against the abusive mandates. When doctors and such got fired for being unvaccinated, nobody cared. But hey, suddenly, you talk about retirement age, and everybody's in the street before you said a word. Same stuff for our education system, it's decades behind, but try to do any change to it and suddenly all teachers are out in the streets. Unbearable if you ask me. I don't really support Macron especially since the "Fuck the unvaccinated" part, but I don't support the other side either.
Yeah, but they don’t actually destroy the buildings and people they should
Germany destroyed enough. They try to preserve what architecture they have left.
They are lazy cucks. They are rioting for having to work just a little bit. They don’t riot over their women being raped and murderers by Muslims. These are the same faggots that, if you look at the French Revolution, that gathered around and mass murdered conservatives. That’s what happened in the French Revolution. They aren’t admirable people.
There's been rioting in France pretty much non-stop for years. They have more balls than the right in America.
"For Sale: French Battle Rifle, never fired. Only dropped twice."
All the French should hang for being such lazy cucks honestly
No. It's because the Communist 68 generation that voted to bring in the Third World, all had/has cushy paperwork jobs, don't want THEIR retirement raised. They also kicked the working class out of cities to big towers with tiny apartments way out, and raise the tolls and mass transit costs in the name of Globaloney Warming for the actual French workers, while regulating their pay flat for decades. Meanwhile housing in the cities where the jobs are and the commutes are shorter and cheaper are full of refugees on one hand, and International Rich Pied a Tierre housing on the other.
The French working class is being gouged just to get to work.
Now they want to raise the number of years worked far in excess of what the fat Socialist retirees had to do, and slashing the benefits per year as well.
Their drone capablies are frightening... But I'm in...
You wouldn't even know it was there until your platoon gets wiped off the earth.
I have no doubt in my mind that the government who rules over us, would use advanced military technology to kill Americans because they will be labeled as "insurrectionists".
I can almost guarantee that the military is getting training over this to condition them in believing they are fighting domestic terrorists.
Why do you think the military is driving out all the Trump supporters?
They only want soldiers who will "just follow orders" and fire on American citizens.
But how will I get the Insta likes with no phone????
How will I post on reddit that I'm doing my part?!?!
PSA: if you’re gonna boog, don’t tell anybody and leave your phone on the charger
The American government has a much more valuable asset. The fact that they know Americans won't do shit with their guns.
Guns are outdated to fight the tools tyranny now has available against the citizenry. They can shut down anyone's financial world, forcing compliance with anything they choose to mandate.
The people have to reach a point where losing their entire financial life is an acceptable cost. I don't think we're anywhere near that yet. Bread and circuses.
Twinkies and sportsball.
Social media and outrage.
At this point, who can deny it...
Yeah but how many f16s you got per f150?
And be careful who you talk to, including family members.
If they could deal with Louis XVI, they can deal with Macron.
When dark times come, humanity must shine to defeat the darkness. French and American revolutions were such times. Now both these countries are in the same problem together again.
The French Revolution was far darker and more disastrous than the monarchy it overthrew.
Our revolution isn't comparable.
Our revolution was bloody.. the French Revolution was fucking scary as HELL
Communist Revolution V0.0
It had a period called The Terror which featured non-stop public executions.
And ended because the guy in charge made the dumb decision to one day announce he had a list of people that were up for execution but not who, so suddenly everyone realized they could be next on the block and said "Why not the guy running the show with the list instead?"
Our “government” just came out and said they had a list. I think they said they were going after at least 1000 more people for the gov’t psyop.
It took then 5 republics before they got it somewhat under control.
Based on what
The French revolutionaries were proto-communists.
You mean GloboHomo Free-Masons sold out to their US "bros"?
"Restez calme, encore deux semaines, faites confiance au plan."
'Keep Calm' is a brit slogan. Nobody says that in France. As for "trusting the plan", that's murican Qshit. I'll leave these "two weeks" to your NJ mother.
one week ago someone told me 2 moar weeks! so dont know about you! but it is next week for me!
The French revolution was shit. Nothing like the American revolution. liberté, égalité and fraternité.
Too much collectivism baked in for the liberty part to work.
Kek. "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité" is a Free-Mason motto, FYI.
Brigitte oui grandma la spanking
I fear the ones who funded such activities are the ones funding said opposition now. I Pray I am wrong.
Notice how police are not your friend. Notice how they defend the globalists and not their own country. REALLY FUCKING NOTICE IT PLEASE.
Mercenaries do what they're paid to do.
Find out who from your high school class became a cop.
That's all you'll ever need to know about cops.
truth is French are lazy and hate work
They could say that Americans overwork but neglect the most important work of all, keeping the government under control.
Wait, the French are black?
they are now
Look at their Soccer team, there are like 2-3 white guys in it.
One of the best productivities in the world (plus creators of like 80% of the non-stupid English vocabulary). Buhbuh frogs fries monkey reeee.
Not historically. But they have grown dependent on the massive welfare state that was instituted here in 1946. Which itself was largely because of the political strength of Communism in France post-WWII, when everybody acknowledged that the USSR was instrumental in Hitler’s defeat.
Of course the French that are living now. Come on man, pension at 62 in a non productive economy? When was the last time the french produced something that the world wanted to have?
I’m not arguing to keep it. I’m just explaining the state of mind. If you ask me, the whole welfare state needs to be abolished. But no party in France supports that, because it’s wildly unpopular. Just like abolishing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
France exports account for 30% of its GDP, US exports for 10%.
As for what we produce, the same goes for most smallish nations. UK, Italy, Spain… What do they contribute exactly? Germany you could say cars and machine tools, what else? China does EVERYTHING.
I didn't meant to trash France because I like the culture and real French people in general but this pension age riot is ridiculous.
No offence taken, fren. I am french and happen to agree.
Even the riot police. Some of those cops are clearly women - LOL.
Vote of No Confidence coming soon...
Macron: Someone has to work longer to pay for all the migrants we are importing into the country!
That's all western countries at this point. Reverse colonialism.
The migrants are allowed in because we need workers to fund pensions, because we don’t make babies, because women don’t want the burden if they can avoid it, and men decided to let them do it to gain a temporary political advantage. Ain’t democracy wonderful ?
Why are the people erupting?
Macron is being a faggot again, this time raising the retirement age claiming pensions will be gone if they don't.
Just more globohomo slavery on the masses.
They're setting the stage for this here. For banks they have trillions, for SS they don't. It will start with the establishment Republican types like Mitch and Lindsey and get just enough "responsible" Democrat votes to pass.
Almost a trillion for Ukraine, billions for Afria and Israel, but it's your tax money and they don't have any to pay you back for SS you paid into.
Except that trillion isn't actually going to Ukraine. Our own government is looting our country and laundering it through Ukraine. They're lining their own pockets.
Millions of foreigners pulling down the economy given everything can't help.
Plus, higher energy prices due to the B.S. "climate change" agenda and the retarded Ukranian-Russian war can't help either.
Behave guys! How else is France supposed to support Muzzies?
Their retirement age is consistently insanely low
Why are we against raising the retirement age?
I'll retire when I'm dead. Until then I'll work.
Because I’ve been forced to pay into social security for decades with the threat of jail time and I want my money back when I don’t feel like working anymore. That’s why!
Thank you for placing your due diligence in to humanity’s collective hand.
Oh, so now feefees are important here too or something? What if someone "feel like" not working at 40, are you fine with that? Or just, feel like they just never want to work at all? Yeah sorry, I'm not buying your argument, cause that's just something people will exploit to not work, because humans are naturally lazy.
The world only works if people work. That's it. And when the life expectancy keep getting higher and higher, I think it's only fair we raise a little bit the retirement age as well. Not just that, work is generally less and less physical, with most jobs being sitting in front of a computer or something. Yeah buddy, if your body is a wreck even though all you do at work is type on a keyboard, that's purely on you.
By the way, if you make enough money, you can technically retire anytime you want. So if you want early retirement, just work hard and smart.
You are a weak man if you think you're owed what you paid into the system. Work. People counting on FDR's system are the problem. Work like a man.
Amazing, you don't even know what they're taking from you. Go ahead and work while your handicap, have cancer, arthritis, and can't pay your bills, etc. just remember what you've said here.
I'm actually surprised so many here assume people that just love working are tax slaves. How far this community has fallen to see they actually count on being paid out on time for their Social Security. Definition of weak men.
Not expecting to be paid back on the money you were taxed, specifically when that was the purpose of the tax, is the biggest definition of being a tax slave! Our forefathers fought a war over not being represented in return for being taxed. Do you even know what this place is or why you're here?
If you love working, work. For the love of God, do something you enjoy as a hobby in old age and do your best to not give that money away to the government. You must be a teen, cause you'll be singing a different tune when you're physically incapable of working without pain, or at all.
You sound like someone desperate to get the money back that you paid into a ponzi scheme. Which Social Security is. I'll take the compliment that you think I'm a teen. I'm a very old codger, who likes laboring with my hands. It brings me vigor. A life that peons who count on Social Security for their retirement will never have. Weak people count on others for their wellbeing. Whether or not you were extorted during your working years is a moot point.
I could collect Social Security, but have no desire to. I'll leave weak men to collapse the system. I crave a real life. Most people I see posting here are posing as something that they never intend to aspire to. A strong man.
By that, you mean paying taxes? You didn't / don't pay taxes? haha. I have plenty of decades ahead before I even think about retirement. I'm just not dumb enough to think I'm not owed what I paid into, and have a big enough sack to at least fight for it, rather than be content with its redirection to Ukraine and corrupt politicians.
Don't collect it, fine by everyone else! We'll do the fighting for our own while you're terminally ill and working 40+ hrs a week.
That’s mixing one mindset with another, even though I agree.
Thanks pede. Judging by the reaction to my comment, most here are weak men, who expect their Social Security handout for their time served. To be completely honest, this was a shock to me. People here talk big, but in the end, most of the people here are pro-gov boomers who want their handout. I'm leaving this cesspool. Wish you the best though.
Spoken like a good little cattle. You go, tax slave!
Who said anything about paying taxes? I like work. You go, FDR New Deal Social Security faggot!
It’s not like you even can do that here, at least in most professions. They force you out, unless you are self-employed. Raising the retirement age does not make people work longer, since companies push you out anyways. What it does is REDUCE PENSIONS. In other words, you get less bang for your buck in terms of what you pay into the system.
Anyways, fuck the whole thing. My country has been decaying for a long time, and 90% of those protesting fuckers wanted me to wear a mask and take the clot shot. Let them clash with the riot police, then be robbed by the migrants, they all deserve each other.
he raised retirement age form 62 to 64
That's only part of the issue: he passed that law using emergency powers, bypassing voting by representatives.
Understood but from my understanding it was legal
Legal as long as Dominion was counting the votes, Fren.
they are acne
The irony here is that Macron is trying to roll back the social net, which is part of the MAGA platform in the US. But when Macron does it he's a 'faggot'.
Macron was always a faggot.
From my limited understanding, he used emergency powers to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, affecting people that earned it and not affecting the dindus and gibsmedats. So, calling it a rollback of the social net is inaccurate.
The French riot about everything. They even riot when they win a soccer game. Saying "there are riots in France" is like saying "it's cloudy in the UK."
They do that in LA and Philadelphia too. For basketball and other sportsballs.
I know the "men" who guard the French Senat building are not French. And they are dumb as rocks. First hand experience with them. So the politicians have their own guards.
Macron raised the retirement age to 70 without anyone voting on it.
So far the worst thing to happen is their trash hasn’t been picked up. They riot there every week over something. I’ll be impressed if more than this happens.
Electricians also cut power to politicians' homes.
Jesus is the answer. Always has been.
bum rush, they outnumber the commies
It does not matter. This is all for show. The Workers Unions that organise these protests work hand in hand with the politicians. The riot police is well prepared, and the French have been disarmed since WWII. Also Macron cannot be fired.
Trust me, Macron will not lose any sleep tonight.
France is no longer France.
Looks weak compared to our “summer of love” in George Floyd’s honor.
Seems like all the western world leaders want civil war. It helps them bring about globalism.
Storm the Bastille
The French might finally be willing to fight...over early retirements. No further comment. Except Kek. Go Frogs!
Casual French weekend tbh
will burn a city to protest having to work an extra year but do nothing to stop from being replaced through immigration. interesting.
Give him war
Was a migrant killed?
I dont know about that, but it was a French revolution motto and it's fucking stupid.
The American revolution was an economic revolution as much as anything. "Equality" held no place in our slogans and mottos. Property rights were at the core of our version of liberty, not this "equity" based liberty where faggots have the liberty to fuck with your kids because "equality" and shit. The French revolution ideology was a precursor to the globalist Satanism we have today.
I don’t know what they are rioting over besides the principal of the move to do it the way macron did. 62 is way too low for the state to start handing out pensions.
These are leftist organizations
I like the pile of flaming bicycles. That's showing them good.
For Sale: French Battle Tank, low miles. 1 forward speed, 6 reverse gears!
Lol, when they tried to run at the crowd
Either cultural enlightens or more Yellow Vest protests. The French have more courage than we do.
Looks mostly peacef.. oh wait.. white people.. REEEEE VIOLENT FASCISTS!!!
If you outnumbered your opponents and they have superior weapons, you can counter their rush by doing a pincher move, split your group into threes and when they move forward, you start surrounding them from another block, the goal is to completely surround them when they are in the center.
When isn't there protests in France?