1603 Failing Ohio School District Moves to 4-Day School Week to Avoid 'Burnout'... of Teachers (redstate.com) REEEEEEE! posted 70 days ago by TEXinLA 70 days ago by TEXinLA +1604 / -1 Failing Ohio School District Moves to 4-Day School Week to Avoid 'Burnout'... of Teachers Less school 'could save the profession of education.' redstate.com 217 comments share 217 comments share save hide report block hide replies
0 Days would lead to far more learning for the kids.... and far less Marxism.
Public school is child abuse.
We used to joke about how school felt like a prison.
Now, I look at it, and what else IS it but prisoner-training?
School to prison pipeline.
Educational incarcerational industrial complex.
No kidding right? Even the "playground" politics are the same. You get your recess too.
They threw me in with the "others" and let me fend for myself. Such a lovely system.
What earned you the cred with them?
Brick in the Wall was ahead of its time.
Remember the Covid plastic walls that made each desk look like a jail visit room without the phone?
I drove by a local high school last month and remarked school or prison? It was hard to tell?
Worked in a new 3 floor middle school, no one but you guys will believe me the ride on autoscrubber was designed for hallways and cafeteria of a prison.
That is exactly what this was! My high school didn't look like this. This is a high school was built less than 5 years ago. All it needed was bars and razor wire.
It’s basically prison masquerading as education, especially when they bus in wakandans that don’t pay taxes in your district.
They play the lottery. That’s a tax.
Yes - it appears that we have finally turned the institution totally upside down.
The only reason they care about seats being filled, truancy etc, is because they get $ for every seat they fill. Just like a jail!
Honestly, if it is a failing school district, it is probably a city district, where there is a culture of thuggery and parents that DGAF, so I am not sure there could be learning in the first place.
But yes, for the few that actually care and want to learn, this is probably a Godsend.
Oh, the parents will give a fuck about this news... most of them rely on the school to substitute as daycare.
Yeah this is racist against all the minorities who work 7 jobs and can't possibly take a day off to watch the kids. At least that's what they say for every other normal adult obligation they say if impossible for them to fulfill.
There are a few school districts in Texas that are going to 4 day school weeks. They say they are doing it to attract teachers. Lets see, teachers get spring break week off, the entire summer off, fall break and two weeks off at Christmas and these pricks stay they are overworked!
Like spending fridays with their dad, right? I’m sure that’ll happen and test scores will increase dramatically.
Really? You a lot of these kids have functional families? It will be a burden on working single mothers because now they will need to find a place for their kid to stay on Friday, since she is working. There will be no more family time, just more burdens on many families.
180 days of school, normal workers work 270 days a year.
They are already lazy as hell. If they would just teach reading writing and arithmetic and Skip all that other crap, maybe they could do a year of school in fewer days
I'm pretty sure teachers work part of the summer at least that's what they claimed during the early 80's / 90's while I was in school.
One of my aunt's worked in the school system years ago. I remember she got the summer off from school and would work other places in the summer. They did have the option to get get paid over the summer but that ment smaller paychecks during the school year.
Yep. Before I had my own kids, I worked being a gofer for a guy installing bath tubs. Unskilled, but even then worth $12/hr. Guy couldn't find anybody who would show up to work reliably and sober.
Some did, but a lot didn't, especially the female teachers. A lot of men would take a season job. I remember being at Old Orchard Beach ordering a slide of pizza and my English teacher working there. He was pretty young at the time, and where he lived was an hour north, so he was probably was staying down there for the summer and was chasing young tail.
They work on lesson plans and all of that for like 2 weeks. Instead of it being 3 months off it is 2 months off
Dont they generally re-use lesson plans? Most subjects don't have a ton of change from year to year
Need to start up children gangs.... 7 - 8 - 9 years olds get them into gangs early so they have some one that cares for them.
When I was homeschooled it took me about 3 hours per day to learn my lessons. Then 30 minutes to review the material with my mom.
I got a better education that year than my years in public school. The only thing public school did better was the amount of extra curriculars. Which, when you really think about it, is a waste of taxpayer money because it's not even education. Just about babysitting students longer after school.
This is the path forward.... Homeschooling and homeschooling networks. The Public Education system collapsed back in the 1970's when they stopped flunking kids.
The Teachers Unions are the biggest voting/donor block for the Dem party. End public schools all together and the Democrat party will suffer greatly.
From the article:
North College Hill City School District in Cincinnati, Ohio, recently ranked #597 out of 607 Ohio school districts, according to the state’s evaluation index.
By my grading scale, that’s straight F-minuses across the board. The district’s preposterous excuse? The teachers are “all worn out.” Oh, noes!
Shockingly 8% white. Glad that grades out to a B for diversity
In these bad neighborhoods, these are essentially WINOs.
Actually it's far more pathetic than that. White kids try to fit in with the black kids but the best they can ever achieve in those social circles is second-class citizen.
I do fear we are missing the forest for the trees. The collapse of the black family precipitated the cultural black hole that they have become. It's started to pick up speed with white people, too. This isn't a school problem, it's a culture and family problem.
At some point you have to take responsibility for your own actions. That blacks can’t or won’t is in them at this point. I’m so r making excuses.
You have no idea how right you are. My workplace (for now) is about 75% black and it is the most toxic environment I have ever experienced.
Literally someone brought donuts last week and a coworker yelled "fuck this white people shit."
Reporting to HR doesn't seem worth my time since the HR lady (hyphenated name and all) thinks my coworkers should get paid time off to "endure racism."
Before the obvious question of why: I work with kids and I value the difference I am able to make in their lives but I don't get paid nearly enough to deal with the hostile racism day in and day out.
The system isn't irreparable, but they won't let you fix it.
Well said, friend. Proves the point.
What, are donuts are "systemically racist" or something?
I am pretty sure he (and others) think that "kindness, civility, and maturity" are "white people shit."
So, yeah, a nice gesture that he didn't appreciate was easy to blame on Whitey.
(He was mostly mad because he didn't think it was a very meaningful free gift. The Gibs are strong.)
I worked at UPS as a Corporate Internal Security Supervisor, so that meant I had to work directly in a sorting facility
It was about ~70% black and my direct team of 12 was 9/12 black... It's the most disorganized, undisciplined, chaotic working environment imaginable
I stopped bringing a box of donuts every Friday because how they would act (think: https://youtu.be/Tmrz28YZ2YQ)
I finally told them they could only take one so there was enough for the whole team, but they wouldn't listen... So, no more donuts 🤷♂️
I also terminated some employees for calling me "cracker", "white-y", and "snow bunny." But the all-black union board would bring them right back
Why in the actual fuck are you there?? Get out of there, man. God's sake...
I am working on it.
I did enjoy it for a few months, though. Before I made myself an easy target by being competent at my job to the point some black kids openly preferred me.
The school district in question is a small geographic area and has a high rate of turnover among teachers. I'm guessing it's where a lot of ohio teachers start as cherries. They stick around just long enough to get nut-punched by reality and find a way out and into another neighborhood/school district. The median pay and home prices in the area indicate that none of the college 'educated' teachers live in that neighborhood.
I'm going to wager a lot of the kids are being raised/exploited/neglected by single moms on benefits who got knocked up as a carreer choice and are now continuing the pattern of shit decision making and irresponsible behavior. All while encouraging thier kids to follow thier lead while blaming others for the mess thier lives have become. That does not produce kids who can readily be taught anything.
Schools can't fix problems at home. And government programs/scams only make that shit worse. Cutting the school week back to 4 days will only finish off whatever chance those kids had and guarantee the only teachers who stick around are the shitbags who will do it for the three day weekends and the lack of accountability. It's the same in every poor area dominated by single moms. Dad's matter and welfare is a life sentence for the mom and the kids.
The problem isn't unfixable. It's just that the blacks and the white feminists that infect all of social services have no interest in fixing it.
At work thev other sole White guy on the team and the Mexicans all listen to black rap.
I looked up my kids school for comparison Graded a C in diversity but mostly As
60% proficiency math and reading and our teachers make 20k a year less
They need to get to 0% white in order to get an A for diversity.
To be fair, I'd be pretty worn out too in that environment
Diversity is our strength.
black kids are absolutely beyond what you can even imagine.
There are so many “save the children” white guilt teachers who quit after a year or two. Even they can’t handle it
You would love this:
That seems very accurate. Especially the part with how loud they are
I’ll be in a class room with 5 black kids and 25 Latinos
You’d think it was 25 black kids with how loud they are
It’s really made me more and more racist as times goes on just seeing how they act. And this isn’t even an inner city.
I’ll bet you anything that the teachers in that district are all worn out because they have to teach in a toxic school where nobody wants to learn.
60% black population urban school district, and the teachers are burned out you say?
They should be fired, not given a vacation
At most jobs when someone is underperforming, they get fired, not more PTO.
Its more likely the case that they couldn’t possibly succeed given their “customers”
Yep. It’s impossible to perform well in that job. It’s like expecting a dentist to have patients with zero cavities when those patients refuse to develop any form of at-home hygiene habits. Or a truck driver not delivering goods when his truck is broken down and company doesn’t assist with repairs. Or a data analyst expected to create a dashboard given missing data fields. They could double the salaries of teachers and they would not perform any better, plus they would still have teacher turnover because the job sucks.
They have job security in that NOBODY wants to teach anymore. The women who flocked to make a difference in the world and have a steady job until they have their own children are now going into nursing because the job checks similar boxes but still pays better. If you fired underperforming teachers, you would have 80% layoffs and nobody to replace them.
Just lower your expectations and view schools as tax payer funded babysitting that happens to help a minor amount with reading and math while you earn a living and supplement their education at home. If you have the means, then homeschool is better, but most of us need 2 incomes to survive in US today.
They have some of the highest teacher salary at that school too, yet 60% of the students are eligible for free food.
That is how teacher pay works. Nicest neighborhoods with best students pay is low, worst neighborhoods pay is high. Good teachers will work for less when they enjoy their job, whereas the only way to keep an adult in the room in certain areas is money.
School choice, no teachers union, and let the money follow the student. The free market solves this issue very easily. Thats why I say the teachers union is the only systemically racist institution, yet its the only one the woke never talk about.
The teacher's union is destroying the public school system.
Who authorized this bullshit 'change everything over a fake pandemic'?
Not only that, its the only systemically racist institution. They all but ensure a child has no choice but to stay in his shitty school. Who do you think that effects more?
No, They should get a choice. An excellent student will chose an excellent school. Those schools will do well because there is financial incentive. The money follows the student. Shitty teachers can be fired. Just applying the free market to education. Instead of our current situation where the school keeps getting more money, even when the kids graduate without being able to read. A student who could actually do something with their life gets dragged down and drowned in the squalor of their school. The teachers union is the largest lobby in our country and the single worst problem for black America. look into it.
So they will have no problem taking a reasonable fair and corresponding 20 percent pay cut. They only work 9 months a year or less anyway
Thats not how communism works
Yep. Commie bitches
I’d ask for property tax reduction
Would be a good counter. But probably lost on most who are in the conversation there.
What percentage of the teachers do you think are on anti-depressants?
All of them.
This has happened across Missouri to many schools. The legislature is considering over ruling them and forcing 5 day school weeks as state law.
It's a primarily black area... The High School has pro reparations posters on their walls. Super woke!
I agree with your sentiment, but this isn’t just a teacher issue. It’s is a culture issue. This is what happens when students receive no home guidance and parents dump their manner-less children off at school 5 days a week for babysitting services. In decades past, schools retained the ability to discipline poorly behaved students. We’re witnessing the real time self destruction of the public education system as it’s hamstrung itself to the point of failure.
wiki: The racial makeup of the city was 49.0% White, 46.6% African American
all you need to know
Census says 60% black, wiki is behind the curve.
I used to feel sorry for teachers because of what they have to put up with, and how their hands are tied, in so many ways, regarding discipline and course curriculum.
Now that so many are teaching our kids to hate their country, question their gender, and blame white people for everything, that sympathy has dropped to zero.
Send them to Ukraine.
wiki about North College Hill, Ohio:
2000 census: The racial makeup of the city was 76.20% White, 21.69% African American
2010 census: The racial makeup of the city was 49.0% White, 46.6% African American
so it's fair to say, in 2023 there are hardly any whites left in that shithole from over 75% a mere 20-something years ago!
2020 data: The 5 largest ethnic groups in North College Hill, OH are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (59.9%), White (Non-Hispanic) (32%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (7.5%), American Indian & Alaska Native (Non-Hispanic) (0.247%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (0.247%).
In other words, they’ve been ripping off the school budget for years, the last few years especially. Now charter schools and home schooling are cutting into their budgetary scam. They have to further cut costs because they stole all the money that was supposed to go towards education.
Reduce the pay then
It’s (mostly) not the teachers… it’s the lack of parents willing to spend time teaching their kids at home and working on homework etc with them. The fact there are terrible family demographics in black homes is a major part of the problem.
Homeschool! Fuck the teachers and their forearm meat tubes…
Student body is 79.4% black. Nice stock photo you ((( the article))) got there shlomo.
>>> LoL <<<
You just can't make this shit up. Even the geniuses at Babylon Bee shake their heads in awe.
If you have any possible way to make it work, please home school your kids or a find a non-public school offering. Fight like hell to make state funding follow the child, including home school, and not just get tossed in the dumpster fire that is our public schools.
Wah wah wah victim victim victim!!! Pussies!!!
I’m not saying there aren’t a LOT of shitty teachers, because there are; but if you look at a failing school, look at the admin first.
I taught in the poorest zip code in Philly for 6 years. 4.5 if those were tough, but tolerable. But the tough as nails principal got a better offer. After she went, so did the strong teachers. Then they brought in a new team of literal woke faggots - more concerned with making a gender neutral bathroom than kids safety or reading level. Then the rest of the good teachers left snd it became straight up toxic and dangerous.
So yeah there are teachers who say “best part of teaching is June July and August!” but there are an equal number of pencil pushers who teach for 5 years, suck the right ladypenis, then fail upward to run a school into the ground.
That’s o e way to get more kids homeschooled.
It’s not just black; it’s also poor. We now test everyone and can see the issues. When there is trauma or problems in the home, it affects how well students learn. The more parental involvement, the better a student succeeds. In poor communities, you have broken families, drug use, crime, etc. The Left knows this, and what have they been doing for the past 60 years? Pushing divorce, working parents (women’s Lib), higher costs of living, defunding police, abortion (instead of marriage and commitment), and releasing violent criminals. But they don’t have the ability to evaluate if their worldview or past decisions have worked or failed. They just assume they are right and keep creating more problems. Teachers cannot discipline a student misbehaving. This is another problem of why teachers are burned out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do that job. If we went back to 1950’s discipline, trust me—these kids would shape up quick or be kicked out.
Poor east Asian-Americans don't have this problem. Poverty does not account for cultural differences and lesser cultures.
I think the more important question is what is causing teacher burnout? Surely lengthening the school year, or piling the same amount of curriculum into less time won’t help with the fact that they have to deal with little shitheads all day long that don’t receive any parenting at home and the parent doesn’t support their child's education once they leave school. Most public schools have been reduced to a daycare at this point.
Yes. Let’s not bash the teachers and schools for every aspect of failure, like meaningless test scores that detail more about economics than student achievement. We should do what we can to prevent grooming by activist teachers, be more efficient with our money and remove wasteful practices such as increased bussing costs using odd routes to balance the racial demographics, and policies that enable/encourage failure such as 50% grade minimums even if the student skips the assignment altogether.
Also, Obama-era pressure towards schools with disproportionate school suspensions of certain demographics has led to schools having a 2-tiered justice system that ignores behaviors from some students while over-punishing others based on skin color to cook their discipline books. This has had the opposite impact of the intended goal, in that those demographics seem to behave even worse. I’m not saying that from an outside/ parent perspective either, I witnessed these changes first-hand, and attended the professional development trainings when they first began pushing “equity” instead of equality.
Parents with no respect for education and out of control children.
Along withe CRT and out of control paperwork.
Everything is related. Mom and Dad have to work 5 days a week and kids go to school 5 days a week. Now, kids go to school just 4 days but parents still have to work 5 days. Who watches the kids on the 5th day? Parents scrambling with their schedules? Hire more daycare? It is gonna be a mess.
^^This is true..^^
Now parents will be forced to find babysitters for one day every week
So much to say here, but how does this effect funding? Also, one day for a kid to be home means one day a parent needs to figure out a babysitter, or some other service to watch their kids. Will this reflect the amount the school system gets funded? Do Teachers take a financial hit by taking another day off?
If you love your children, take them out of public schools.
The CCP is destroying our country from within and those greedy, lazy bitches are just fine with that.
How about the people of Ohio cut the salary of the teachers and administrators to match?
Those who can't do, teach.
I'm sure the kids will use that day at home to study instead of running the streets. /s
Public School = Child Abuse ☠️🔥
Underperforming due to negros. Just put negros everywhere and everywhere will be average
laughs in growing up with a 4-day school week when I was in school
If the school actually cares to educate the students and optimizes the system, a 4 day school week can actually have some great results with students. Then again, my class in particular had a lot of students that cared about their education as well.
So less days more hours. To many parents don't raise their kids. You got the poor schools that are nightmares. Administrators are evil lazy asshats. Young teachers are brainwashed. Old teachers counting down the days to run. Good teachers get ran out in 5 or less years. The ones that want to make a difference and teach. They get it from other teachers and administrators. Education needs a complete make over with no administrators or government oversight. There's more to life than a kid sitting for 8 hours a day to take a test on Friday and forget it all.