1317 () posted 76 days ago by Moebius 76 days ago by Moebius +1323 / -6 346 comments share 346 comments share save hide report block hide replies
I kind of see this as a good thing.
Exactly. Jesus guys, I come here once a fucking week now and we’re defending chemicals in candies because we don’t like democrats. Fucking hell thank you everyone for reminding me why I’m not here daily anymore
You don't have to eat it. I certainly don't eat this processed crap but I hate all this banning stuff "for their own good" based on voodoo science.
Its voodoo science that declared this stuff food.
Humans drink literal poison because it makes them feel funny (alcohol). Don't tell me it's science that declared it when we eat everything bad that we shouldn't.
Alcohol isn't poison. Humans have been drinking for as long as civilisation existed. Jesus even valued wine at a wedding enough to performe a miracle.
The problem with alcohit is when people abuse and overuse it.
Moderation is key in these things and a few beers or glasses of wine is fine if you can do so in moderation. Even water is bad if you drink too much.
Wine was safer to drink than water back then.
They drank alcohol because it was poison and would kill any pathogens that might be in regular water
I'm sure they totally didn't enjoy it for its effects. All done for health reasons.
Alcohol is definitely toxic. If it wasn't, a lifetime of usage would not lead to adverse health effects. Stop excusing your vices and overcome them.
A good proportion of what we eat is toxic if you want to follow absolutes.
Im not giving up bacon or the occasional ice-cream either etc.
You need to live life, while keeping things in balance.
Moderation is drinking a glass once a week, not once a day
Downvotes are alcoholics.
Yes, but they are using a lesser evil as a scapegoat for a greater evil.
The one guy who supposedly got sick from it was practically swimming in it. We regularly test for it for water quality sampling and never see it. It breaks down too quickly to be an issue most of the time. The biggest legitimate gripe is Monsanto being a massive piece of shit.
Yup, they always can find something worse. Titanium Dioxide? The stuff is completely inert and reacts with almost nothing chemically. Guess they can replace this with some other white pigment like basic lead carbonate if they want.
Usually this shit gets banned a year or two before the chemical would go out of patent protection. Check what's happened with refrigerants used in AC units and fridges. The chemical gets declared environmentally dangerous, so only the original maker can make more. Then they patent a new chemical, which only they can make. A year before that patent expires it gets found to be bad for the environment, and again, only the original patent holder can make more.
Rinse and repeat.
The refrigerant scam cycle is a massive red pill about global warming (climate change, whatever) hoax in general. The thing that pisses me off the most about it is, of course as they ban the old refrigerants, we get lessor-quality replacements. Seeing as China regularly produces toxic chemicals, has no copyrights, and doesn't care in general. Do they still use old freons in their units? If we have old cooling units can't they be refilled from the CCP chemical dumps? At this point why are we still playing around when we know better?
Your can of worms looks might tasty - Klaus Schwab 2023.
That is a problem with "free gibs" in general. Government shouldn't be handing out anything.
Umm, maybe... The problem with HFCS is of course it is multitude times sweeter than anything else and dirt cheap (which could be reduced from reducing the corn surplus). But it would still have that "sweeter" aspect which is what the corporate overlords love about it. It's just easier, to use than regular sugar. They can use less of it, and it makes things many times sweeter (and more addicting to their cattle customer population who has come to expect it). Its a miracle chemical to the way corporations work. Making more profit with less investment. They don't care about any other factors other than the baseline of "more for less". And HFCS does exactly that on all levels. It's a hard sell to try and pull that from the hands of the grabblers.
Modern farming IS sustainable farming. The leftie faggots screeching about agriculture are doing so because YOU are the carbon they want to reduce.
Nebraskan here. Fuck Monsanto. That said, if they made a herbacide that only effects mulberry trees. I might sing a different tune lol. My hedge is constantly infested.
Good advice. I do that once or twice a year. My problem is the birds that love living in the hedge also love mulberrys. The seeds travel in their shit, etc. I would say I cut down 150 or so saplings each year. Got me A new stihl and took down a 26 foot last year. 👍 Cheers
sure, but fuck europe at the same time
Europe bans these chemicals because they're retards who foam at the mouth whenever the most basic of associations is drawn between "cancer"/"DNA damage" and a particular substance.
Literally everything is toxic if consumed in a large enough amount.
No, you being fucking stupid and not washing your food LIKE THEY SAID TO DO is why you deal with people having problems from Round-Up.
These bans are nothing more than justification for driving the price of common goods even higher.
Just returned from Amsterdam. On the fifth day it dawned on me: I had not seen a fat person for five whole days. Not one. Hit me like a thunderbolt.
Oh yeah, there are NO fat people in Europe!
You fucking retard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_De_Block#/media/File:Maggie_De_Block_2016.jpg
Why are you so literal and confrontational? Feeling targeted?
That's mostly because Americans eat prepackaged foods that have lots of added sugars and seed oils. Both of those massively increase your appetite. You will eat more and still feel hungry. If your mother eats that way you will be born fat, or primed to become fat.
Netherlands rate is about 20%. US's rate is about 36%. It varies of course across the subparts of the countries.
What a load of retarded, half-thought out bullshit.
Eh. I think using chemicals in food products for non necessity should be outlawed.
America had horribly low food quality. .I understand bot supporting too much regulation, but we also shouldn't allow cancer causing dye to be in our food for the sole purpose of adding color to make something more appealing.
It serves no purpose aside from advertising.
It shouldn't be legal to add these chemicals to ingestables.
Edit: ah, I see I'm down voted. I change my mind.
All regulation is WRONG. Fentanyl production and trafficking should be 100% legal, because that is called FREEDOM.
Who cares if the kids die. It's their own choice. Trump is anti freedom for wanting the death penalty for those trafficking fentanyl!
Give me fentanyl or give me death!!!!!!
Define "chemical", retard.
Dude you have problems... I'd love to see your work/education background to see how full of shit you really are.
Uh huh, so define "chemical", retard.
It's really simple, it's something of a uniform structure comprised of elements from the periodic table. Different structures with the same elemental composition are isomers (constitutional, stereo, etc).
Well, I'm clearly not talking about naturally occurring chemicals, such as h20... so how about you use your brain, retard.
If those chems leaked into a river or burnt into the atmosphere from a derailed train, you'd have a major issue with it. If hormone blockers shouldn't be advertised to kids, then chemicals which screw up DNA and hormone production shouldn't be marketed to them for eating either.
Sure, that's the same thing.
Just think of all the Skittles addicts committing crime to feed their addictions. All these Jelly Bean overdoses. Criminal cartels getting rich off of canned soup. People leaving HIV infected candy wrappers in playground sand boxes. All these ruined lives because of Sour Patch Kids.
You know what these ban-happy leftists also consider "junk" food? Meat, dairy, etc. You really think they're going to stop with this?
Hunter Biden enters the chat.
Way to be disingenuous. Let me know when a titanium dioxide addict attacks random people on the street.
I am for legalizing ALL drugs.
Only if they're laced with some sterilization chemicals. Day of the Rope!
Legalize Drugs and Murder? (it is an offshoot and understudy of Iommic Research)
Absolutely.... The herd will cull itself. Win-Win.
I like freedom, I'll take any freedoms I can get, whether I use them or not. Have fun being a slave you fucking backwoods faggot.
ITs not about your health its about control. I value dangerous freedom over nanny state slavery. If people wanna eat chemicals let them. Havnt we learned this shit with the war on drugs already? Were supposed to be about less government not more.
starting to notice...:/
Sure seems that way.
Cool what happens when the chemicals leak into your water supply and your drinking it too?
Everyone forgets that the FDA was initially created by popular demand and uproar.
I don't want people to be "free" to put bullshit in "food" and then tell me I can "just not eat it" while making the grocery store a case of Russian roulette.
No gay ancap shit, thanks.
it's more to do with the fact that california is a lawless hell hole beset with problems that politicians treat as their personal treasury, and instead of attempting to fix any of it, they do things like ban skittles and then nod in satisfaction- and that's annoying
but yeah, this isn't a defense of chemicals in the food
What California deems cancerous should be mocked until proven otherwise, and there's countless examples that demonstrate that (from sawdust to coffee)
What else would you like to ban, comrade?
You picked the exact perfect time to visit! Come back soon!!
Unfortunately idiot masses can't handle freedom of choice and will eat poison until they need medical attention and disability welfare which you will pay for as the tax payer.
Not commie. Just anti-democracy.
So I take it you are in favor of letting children take puberty blockers and cut off their genitals? Otherwise you're just another mindless hypocrite.
Well aren’t you a good little commie.
Not commie. Just anti-democracy.
So I take it you are in favor of letting children take puberty blockers and cut off their genitals? Otherwise you're just another mindless hypocrite.
Then the solution is to remove government programs - not to create more government.
depends on what those additives are but we all know we're being poisoned in a manner not allowed in most of the developed world.
The state that made it legal for people to pass AIDS to others without informing them tells you Titanium Dioxide is bad for you, because health.
Keep your filthy hands off my occasional skittles snack!
Me too. Hunter Biden's dong is going to rot off from skittle exposure. If ever there was a man that needed to NOT reproduce.
Too many purples and you get Lindsay Graham.
In Germany, Haribo gummy bears are colored with vegetable-based dyes. They manufacture a special product for export to the USA that uses petroleum-based dyes that are known to, at minimum, exacerbate attention deficit disorder. Because it’s cheaper, and for some reason, legal to put in our “food”.
Jabs are unsafe, but so are the garbage additives.
Then don't take the jabs and don't eat the additives. I don't want the government telling me what not to eat any more than I want them telling me what to inject.
They put this shit in all kinds of things and people don't even understand that they do it.
I agree 100% with the libertarian approach whenever and anywhere a consumer can and does have 100% perfect knowledge, understanding and choice of alternative. When it comes to foods, that's pretty far from the case as they put all kinds of poisonous shit in American foods but the average person doesn't know it and can't simply choose to "not buy it" as they don't even have that level of observation.
I've seen a list of the most harmful and poisonous shit that gets put in American foods, and you know what? That's the only reason I even recognize most of the stuff on this list; these are a the types of poisons banned in other countries for use in food products, and for good reason.
The invisible hand of the free market doesn't work well when a handful of megacorps who hate American are allowed to poison our food. Maybe if they hadn't been allowed to get where they are today it'd be different, but that's not the world we live in.
I actually agree with this bill. It may sound like those candies will be banned, but I'm sure they can find a way to make them without the poisons instead and still make enough money to be profitable.
There this thing called an ingredients list on processed foods. That works for me, but I guess I'm a motherfucking genius and not the average person. I also prefer to not eat processed foods in the first place, but that's my choice.
You must be pretty excited about how things are going with the authoritarians banning and mandating everything. What a time for you to be alive, right? I'm sure your crickets will be sustainably raised and your pod will have all the government mandated safety features.
Man, I'm with you, but the problem is hard to solve. 95%+ of "food" in grocery stores contains ingredients I don't want to put in my (or my kids') body. And forget trying to eat healthy out! If our population wasn't so brainwashed, less people would buy and eat that garbage, and then, at least, there'd be options. It was pretty liberating only needing to watch out for seed oils while food shopping in Germany, knowing that HFCS, petrol-dyes, and glyphosate weren't lurking in the majority of products.
What really sucks that, like the jabs, kids are being subjected to these poisons. Then when they get fat or ADD, they get medicated. They're even pushing for surgery for obese 12 year olds!
Not that I want government trying to force good parenting, either... I do share your libertarian ideals, and despise most aspects of Germany's heavy-handed socialist governance. I sure wish the solution wasn't just having to buy organic and make everything from scratch. 1st world problems, right?
You mentioned gummy bears. There is a US based candy company called Albanese that makes delicious gummy bears that don't have any artificial colors or flavors. That's what I buy. But if people want to eat artificially flavored shit they can choose that. I assure you that I'm not a genius, and if I can find suitable food to eat, anyone else can too. It just takes a little effort, but instead of putting forth that effort, people prefer to trust the government and let them make the decisions. It won't end well.
I think we’re on the same page, for the most part. I don’t really want daddy government telling me what I can or can’t eat, or feed to my kids. On the other hand, I hate that innocent kids are being jabbed with poison, and having it fed to them by ignorant or careless parents.
It’s be nice if it didn’t take so much effort. I mentioned Haribo specifically because I figured it’d be “safe”, since it came from Germany. But no, the petroleum dyes must be so much cheaper that it’s worth having a whole separate product line for export to the USA. That, or there’s another agenda…
Ok, put your money where your mouth is and have your wife take thalidomide, paint your walls with lead based paint, and use asbestos as an insulating agent.
We will wait to hear back how you feel about governments removing dangerous compounds from the consumer product stream
He has a valid point, in my opinion. They're getting ready to de facto ban gas stoves for "consumer safety". I'd like to see dangerous/poisonous products labeled, but still have an option.
This is the dumbest response I've seen today, and the day's almost over.
Fuck shifty corporations that knowingly put toxic compounds into products because it's cheaper than being honest.
So don't eat them.
Alcohol isn't good for you either, but it is legal, as it should be.
Easy to say, and really hard to do, in practice.
Not for kids, it isn't. And they just looooooove putting tons of these synthetic dyes in kids' "food", candy, drinks, etc. Drives sales, 'cuz kids like colorful candy/cereal/whatever, and it also helps boost pharma sales of ADHD meds. Win/win!
They bring this up not because of the clot shot side affects, they bring it up as a way for these companies to pay their state Government a lot of money for not getting on the banned list. It is a tax.
A protection racket.
You can't have red dye #3 but you can chop your son's dick off and inject him with estrogen.
FD&C Red Dye #3 was the FDA approved solution to the FD&C Red #2 they said was bad.
I'm old enough to remember when there were NO red M&Ms for years after that happened.
Yep. Pepe Farms remembers.
All the fd&c dyes originate from petroleum products.
California the land of Fruits, Nuts, and Flakes mostly in the government !!
I guess Hunter will finally have to look for different candy to put on his dick.
It's all poison.
It's my right as a citizen to poison myself how I see fit.
Straw man and a false equivalency. No one is advocating for intentionally and secretly adding mRNA to food. We just don't want the government dictating what we can and cannot eat.
Half this shit is snuck in here because people: A) Don't know what the fuck it does in the food in the first place. B) Don't know how bad it is.
Your prior comments betray this one. Your logic, you should be alright with this, it's up to the consumer isn't it?
Yes, it should be up to the consumer. I'm glad you at least grasp that.
I honestly think you might be retarded, dude.
It's also your right to be made aware of what you eat or drink does to your body, which isn't happening.
Cane sugar is poison? So homemade bread is poison? Homemade pie is poison? Homemade candy is poison?
Both sugar and wheat are poisonous in the portions recommended by the government/FDA. Just as too much alcohol is poisonous and should not be consumed with every single meal.
You know what is not poisonous at all? Holistically raised animal products (meat, eggs, butter).
No, investigate the listed additives further and you'll change your thinking.
Yes if it’s in everything you eat. Bread, sugar and pie as a rare treat.
Homemade bread is better than store bought.
In fact, you don't have to put sugar in bread at all.
Now, the other carbs aren't exactly good for you either but still...
Every food has sugars in it, that means nothing
Some. But US bread typically has added sugar too. Often HFCS.
Sure. And added sugar is more.
I'll even add that even if there weren't natural sugars, the amylase in your saliva helps break down carbohydrates into sugars so you'd get them that way.
You forgot yeast, by the way.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted when you're right. Half these morons on here don't even know what a sugar is.
Is potato bread good or sourdough?
AFAIK, those are just things added to bread. Carbs generally aren't so great but not terrible in moderation. The main issue is that they're cheap* and food scientists have spent the last century making them taste good. The insult to injury is that they spike your blood sugar so leave you feeling hungry after (this used to be joked about with Chinese food).
*Though have you looked at the price of a bag of chips recently? More expensive per oz than steak.
With your slack jaw hanging open like that you should be wary of dihydrogen monoxide poisoning.
Remember, everything causes cancer in the state of California
califonria causes cancer in everything. FIFY
Especially the politicians.
Ever product you see these days points that out on the label...even if it doesn't.
Yup. Doesn't make it false though. One of the actualt truths in that state.
Most things in our daily lives that surround us in our homes cause health issue.
The plastics and petroleum products. I'm not against them existing for purchase.
But if it were up to me, plastic would be more limited, and we'd use glass more often, like the old days.
So put a warning label on them like cigarette’s and let people decide if they want to eat them or not. I don’t buy or eat that shit, but if retards want to they have a right to. I will say this, the gov has approved poison in food for decades now, so why the push ban them? Taxing big corp? Precedent for banning more foods including healthy ones?
They need to put a warning on cell phones, since those cause more addictive behavior than cigarettes.
There is a growing movement in California, and potentially elsewhere to cut out a specific list of poisonous ingredients. As this movement spreads people become more aware of it. Think all of our dem politicians here are geniuses? They aren't; they aren't any smarter than any other. This whole thing just sounds like finally somebody in power who actually cares found out about just how badly they are poisoning us and is trying to do something about it.
Most democrats actually mean well. They have some weird worldviews that ultimately end up backfiring but many of them genuinely want to do something positive within the context for their worldview. In this instance banning poison in foods most people simply aren't aware of isn't a bad thing.
Obviously it'd be better if most consumers were well informed and could make choices based on that, but I'm getting to be an old man now and I've never seen such things in any sort of significant portion of the population. If ever there was a good time for government to step it, stopping companies that hate Americans from putting poison in our food that people are unaware of sounds like it.
I agree with your sentiment, I too believe there are moderate dems out there who really think they are “helping and doing the right thing” and in this particular instance it would be a good thing. I guess right now it just feels so out of character considering the barrage of craziness we have been assaulted with these past few years. I find now, that I wear my cynical tin foil hat more and more these days, that I’m always looking for an ulterior motive.
LOL. Are these guys for real???
This is regulation out of control.
Agreed. Mcdonalds burgers should last 10+ years without getting moldy, but those dick heads thay exposed made them change their recipe so they groe mold after a few days!
Thats so wrong. I want our food to be pumped full of junk to last FOREVER!!!!
Then don't buy the "crap."
This same logic could be used to bring back prohibition. No thanks.
Eat ze bugs!
Brominated vegtable oil is also an ingredient in Mt. Dew. No way they are going to ban Pepsi products.
Dew, Jelly Beans and Coffee kept me alive on my Multiple Deployments...
Because the state is running so damned well that we need to worry about this stupid shit.
Tax, ban, mandate, tax, ban, mandate. That's all these assholes do.
It's the authoritarian way.
Countless Californians die every year from the effects of dihydrogen monoxide, but they're more concerned about skittles...smh.
Oh yea. Humans are composed of as much as 80% of Di-Hydrogen Monoxide. 78% of the Earths Surface is completely polluted with it. That's how rampant it is. :)
Water molecules are racist
That retard bait doesn't seem to be working here. Not surprised. LOL
LOL THE SKITTLES ARE TOXIC? HOW MANY FUCKING SKITTLES DO YOU HAVE TO CONSUME FOR THE SUGAR PEBBLES TO BE BAD? CALI IS FUCKING HIGH AS GIRAFFE PUSSY
About a handful.
Causes cancer in Laboratory Elephants...
Same thing with Sodium Cyclamate artificial sweeteners.
The FDA admitted they were wrong but they never rescind a ban...they just double down.
Ban Skittles because of the PTBGLQ+ propaganda, grooming, and child abuse they are involved in.
Taste the Rainbow...
One the one hand this is insane. On the other hand what the big food companies are selling is slow poison. You shouldn’t be eating this shit anyways.
But all the ingredients are FDA approved...just like the Clot Shot...
Something to ponder that someone said to me years ago...
"If all these things in food are bad for us, why are we living significantly longer and more active lives than those that ate all-natural foods just decades ago? And why does life expectancy continue the upward trend?"
I'm not saying it's good for people to eat junk as a main diet, but on the other hand, those claiming it's something really bad defies and runs contrary to the science and data...
I will always be a firm believer in moderation when it comes to most 'unhealthy' foods...
People were living longer...until that DNA altering Jab...
Well, that is an entirely different topic...
Actually I included it in my Post...
What isn't "known to the state of California to cause ___ " ? That seems to be their whole schtick.
I was unloading a trailer and it had a bit of small signage on the side about not being legal to be hauled through the state (California) for what I presume to be some regulatory reason(s).
Anything with Lead Solder is 'Prohibido'...
it's so common on packaging that no one cares anymore. some products will just put it on the label because no one cares anymore and it's cheaper and lower liability to put it on the label than actually get the product tested.
I freakin hate California. Such a scumbag state.
not to mention that awful fake meat chemical garbage they push.
That lab grown meat Gates is pushing is literally a fuckin' Tumor...
Yep the lab grown meat. The other soy processed shit is nothing but solid estrogen.
Can we make it required to post the link and not some screenshot. This is what the properganda pushes tend to do. Outrage headline but heaven forbid people can read the actual detail.
I did post a link. I always do.
Thanks, my apologies, I didn't see it in the thread.
is Hunter's dick DNA OK?
According to California it's a legitimate medical procedure. So yes it allowed.
No, no not jelly beans. Especially not the red ones. No, what will I do? And right at Easter. Fudge.
So which politican son is going to get rich running a black market ring in California?
It's time to ban California.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammo...
You're right. Screw banning them. Let's just go take it away from them.
Huh, they must have some spike protein antidote priorities.
Nah...they're just Faggots.
Meanwhile Kraft mac and cheese has completely synthetic yellow dyes that cause cancer and are banned in every other country and no one gives a fuck.
i can understand the candy because are already banned in other countries due to the chems used to make them. But why campells soup...
I'm convinced it's not the soup - it's an extortion attempt.
Probably colorings they use.
I eat very healthy. No medications at all. Maybe 1 six pack a month. But I do like jelly beans. In moderation of course.
We need to get the shit out of our food. Start by not buying the shit.
You really shouldn't be eating that processed trash anyway. It's designed to keep you addicted to sugar and seed oils, made by ESG commie corporations that hate you, and is where they'll start sneaking in the bug meal as a 'protein additive'
Literally banning chicken soup, while mandating gene therapy.
In a twist, on April 1st this year the legacy media will report factual news