Looks like it's showtime for Alvin Bragg. The city is preparing for a worst-case scenario. Barricades erected around Manhattan Criminal Courthouse. Until the actual order, Bragg has time to walk back from the brink. Every legal analyst not on Dem payroll has said it should be a misdemeanor at most. (hotair.com)
What though. What should be a misdemeanor?
awww, downvoted by m0ssad
And then he went even further than that. The governor of Florida said that innocent Floridians getting persecuted by woke leftist Soros DA's and weaponized judiciaries is not a real issue worth his time.
I knew he would puss out. He gave some lip service to weaponized judiciary and Soros prosecutors and then indicated he would do nothing to block extradition. I can't believe how many people are fooled by this guy.
Too many DeSuckass fluffers brigading this forum lately.
It's all the people that supported Lyin' Ted, Little Marco, Kasick, and Jeb! before they were finally forced to back Trump over Hillary. The brainwashing runs deep.
And with that, Trump 2024 is sealed.
We’ll see where we’re at in 2028 with desantis.
I was willing to consider voting for him in 2028, provided he turned his back on Paul Ryan, Ken Griffin, Rupert Murdoch, and the $200+ million in donations from the Wall Street oligarchs, and stayed out of 2024 (slim though that chance was). After his comments yesterday? He couldn't even get my vote for dog catcher in BFE.
Trump 2024 it is. Lurking rino losers and lefties can suck an EGG.
That's pretty much how I feel.
Why tf did you get downvoted???
A LOT of shills are gonna be here from now till the election.
TRUMP 2024, ya DINGLEBERRIES.
Desantis is already burnt. You’re an idiot if you still don’t think he’s an establishment rino cuck
Nowhere, DeScumbag is already dead politically.
Taking on flak? Take my upvote!
Look at the scum that immediately come down hard with the downvoting. lol.
Is the Jew in the room with you right now, Ilhan?
Why do you care about downvotes? Is vanity that important to you?
That's what I'm wondering. Trump didn't do anything. I thought this had to do with listing the payment to Stormy a "legal fee" and, in that case, it would something the attorney would handle. This is all so dumb.
The misdemeanor would be for falsifying business records. Which is a joke unto itself, because a good attorney could argue that these were indeed legal fees. And even if they were not, Trump himself would have had to explicitly direct his accountants to book them as legal fees and he would have had to have the knowledge that they were not legal fees. Yeah, do you think trump was standing over his controllers shoulder telling him how to classify a journal entry? No.
But even if you assume that the records were falsified deliberately (they weren't) the statute of limitations on that "crime" ran out years ago. So the only way you can still charge it would be to bump it to a felony. The only way you can bump it to a felony would be if the falsification was done to facilitate another crime. The DA, presumably, will argue that the falsification was done to further a violation of federal campaign law. Only problem with that is that the feds already looked at this several years ago and said that the expenditure wasn't campaign related. So no crime. But, even if you assumed that there was a campaign finance violation ( there wasn't), most legal scholars agree that a new York state law would have had to have been violated in order to bump this from a misdemeanor to a felony. Not a federal law.
So there you have it. You've got about five different ways even a scumbag hack public defender will absolutely get any conviction overturned at the appellate level. This thing stands no chance other than in front of a frothing at the mouth liberal trial judge and jury.
They know that. What they want is a headline and a photo.
And Trump took that away from them and replaced it with a legal debate, which they lose
The payments to Cohen happened in 2017 so Bragg is stretching time on the felony angle, too. The only way to keep milking this is an 11th hour indictment.
Getting a grand jury indictment is a rubber stamp, they could have done it years ago. I don't think Bragg has new information and I don't think he actually wants to go to trial and show what little they actually uncovered after 5 years of supposed investigation ("two more weeks"-ing, leaking, and book deals). An acquittal would be embarrassing, the statute of limitations angle leaves the door open for presuming Trump is guilty but narrowly escaped justice because he is rich and hired good lawyers. He gets to be the brave DA that stood up and indicted Trump, and that Trump (once again) weaseled out of justice on a technicality of law.
Perfect end game strategy for punishment by process.
The payments to Cohen are also problematic to the prosecution. If I remember correctly, Cohen submitted invoices, and the accounts payable team paid them. Now, your in trumps AP department. and invoices from one of Trump's attorneys come in? Where is the logical place to book those? Oh yeah, legal fees! So trump should be arrested because Cohen didn't itemize his invoices.
How can you do any business in New York if the new precedent is that one of your vendors can send you an incorrect invoice, and you can go to prison because your controller pays the invoice and books the entry?
Any CFOs or controllers in NYC should resign tomorrow.
That's the thing. There is no way to tie anything illegal to Trump, at all, with this story. Even if it were all true, which it probably isnt. So it's 100 percent theater. If I were him i would not surrender peacably. If he goes into their custody he will get epsteined
New York no longer takes non-violent felons into custody. This is due to the moronic "Bail Reform" law the passed a couple of years ago. Looks like that one came back to bite them on the ass. The only loophole would be the "risk of flight" aspect, but given Trump's high-visibility and that he's actively campaigning again, that would be an almost impossible claim to make.
The whole prosecution is an impossible claim to make, but here we are
It's NYC. How hard do you really think it would be for them to "coincidentally" put the case before a far-left TDS-afflicted judge who will bend over backwards in order to be the one who puts Trump in prison?
Hillary recently paid a large fine for a campaign finance violation. Bet that violation was falsified in her campaign books too. In NY.
I dont see how an nda to someone wouldnt count as legal fees. Insisting your political opposition label their expenses the most damaging way possible is not a real criminal charge
Yeah, it's not like you're going to type "hush money" in the billing documentation.
Well, right. "Hush money" is a slang term for an nda. You arent required to use that term in documentation. An nda isnt even an admission of guilt. His attorneys might have advised him to pay her to be quiet because fighting her in court would have been more damaging to his campaign from all the sleazy publicity, even if he wound up being vindicated at the end. But also her "pay me or i'll talk" scheme could be construed as blackmail. So if anyone should be getting investigated and going to jail, it's probably her for trying to blackmail presidential candidates
They’re claiming that a 130k (or something like that) payment to trump’s attorney was actually reimbursing his attorney for hush money paid to horse face daniels. They’re stating that since the payment from trump’s business account to the attorney was marked as a legal expense, that it constitutes business fraud.
And that this alleged misdemeanor should be upgraded to a felony and that the statute of limitations, though expired, must be waived so Trump can be charged. The whole thing is mind boggling.
Paying someone to not lie about you. That's what they think the crime is.
Settling a nuisance claim enabled by a corrupt legal system and broken hookers raised without fathers. Trump is basically Hitler.
It should be a felony... for Bragg to still have a job
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I guess we'll find out once he's done snorting another bucket of KFC.
Stop spreading racist lies like this! He doesn’t snort “a bucket of KFC”.
He snorts the MSG that KFC uses to make their shitty chicken taste “good”.
He'll get what's coming to him. Probably via diabetes.
Yet more proof that diversity hires are a bad idea.
Its worse than that, Diversity hires are a bad idea because they are incompetent by definition, if they were competent you would have just hired them anyways.
Black hires are a bad idea because they see their primary identiy as black, not American, and thus use their positions of power to hand out rewards to black and punish whites, regardless of legality.
Unfortunately, a disproportionate number of blacks are just terrible people.
Most white people, who would be considered at least casually "racist" by the left (that is to say, they have reservations about interacting with blacks), would not be willing to condemn an innocent black person to imprisonment or death. The reverse is not true though, since everything is perceived through a racial lens by a disproportionate number of blacks.
I don't think they're terrible people, I think that they are rational self centered actors.
Blacks are by far the least intelligent, least capable race on the planet, its not even a contest. This means then that when blacks interact with any other race, an egalitarian system is a losing proposition for them. Therefore any given blacks best option is collective action along racial lines.
I don't fault blacks for persuing their best interest, I fault every other race (except Arabs who knew what was up and made sure that they didn't suffer a permanent black population despite their massive slave trade) for not realzing that blacks are not compatable with any other race.
You got everything right after the first paragraph
Eh I see where you're going, but I think its important distinction. Because if it's just horrible people, then you blame education, culture, media, the DNC taking advantage, and so on.
The crucial jump that the we-love-diversity Rs need to make is that all of that is bullshit. All of that is not the cause, all of that is just opportunists taking advantage of the unfixable systemic problem to which their is no solution except physical separation.
The ones living in places built by other races have ruined those environments, and the ones left to their own devices are still enslaving and eating each other. I think it's less opportunism and more general shittiness. The notion of "Opportunism" requires deployment of logic that I don't think most of them possess.
I don't think persuing self interest is a sign of deployment of logic. It's just looking at people the way we look at even basic single-celled organisms, basic response to simple feedback.
As for opprotunism, I was refering not to the actions of blacks by by others exploiting their collective nature to weaponize a black population against another group.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
He's not a diversity hire, he's a Soros plant doing a very competent job at what he was hired for.
Soros almost always throws money at blacks to get them in office. He did it with Lightfoot and Abrams and countless others. Luckily, we dodged Stay Puft so far.
Alvin Bragg is Andrew Weissmann in blackface and a fat suit. He's not smart enough to come up with this stuff, he's just the Soros mask the Lawfare crowd is hiding behind.
I work for a city near Boston. They hired a black, female, Navy vet for a custodial job. First snowstorm while she was there, she was SHOCKED that she had to shovel snow, even thoughshe was told that that's one of her responsibilities. 2nd snowstorm, she "hurt her back" while shoveling. Was out for 3 months...then she got 72% disability pay for the rest of her life. She was 35. They hired an under qualified (even to be a custodian) female who basically checks off every box on the "untouchable" list. They never did that again.
Let me take a wild guess: Was she also about 300 lbs.? I know you said "Navy vet", but I've seen a LOT of former military women who end up looking like they ate their way out of the service. Plus there was the "hurt her back" thing. All the markers are there that point to her being a lazy fat ass, so I figured I'd ask.
Correct! At that point she was 9 years or so out of the military, and turned that experience into working at a pizza/sub shop during that time. She was large. I used to eat supper with the custodians when I was on the late shift. She would come down to eat and be completely out of breath for the first 5 minutes of "lunch". She didn't have a very far walk to the break room either. It was hilarious! And God forbid the restaurant we ordered from put tomatoes or lettuce on her well done burger...you would have thought someone shot her cat.
The Georgie bitch that’s looking to file charges is a rigger too
bragg is a black supremacist, racist piece of shit.
he's the same fucker who charged that dominican immigrant bodega owner who defended himself on video from a jogger who ruthlessly attacked.
meanwhile, he's dropped over 50% of cases in NYC, downgraded 70% more, very disproportionately in favor of black defendants. he's just a racist piece of shit.
Ben Shapiro covered this really well yesterday. I don't know how to explain it as well aa he did, but the gist is that the NY statute of limitations for misdemeanor is 2 yrs, and for felony it's 5. Which means that for a 2016 "crime" of hush money payments, even the felony limit was two years ago.
The only way to make this work is to prove intent to defraud via campaign financing, or something like that. In other words, this is very low IQ legal strategy from very low IQ people. Ideological fanaticism will only take you so far.
Correct. IF Trump paid her off it was in a legal way by buying rights to her story or however it is done.
Yup. "Hush money" is a pejorative replacement for "non-disclosure agreement." Perfectly legal. And she broke her NDA and owes Trump for that. The actual offender here is horse face and her already-in-prison clown of a lawyer.
And IF he did and IF it was illegal, the statute of limitations is expired anyway.
Thats the whole thing I dont get. Ok paid hush money, time to go after every fucking celeb thats paid hush money and locked people behind NDAs for said hush money? Whether it came from him directly or through his attorney, it was his fucking money,not from the campaign coffers, the Feds even said as much and why they didnt pursue anything.
Lol. Are you goal posts on wheels?
IN before Yeah he paid the NDA though campaign funds but she was hired for campaign stress release.
Charging this will create an environment where elections are meaningless and women's groups can dictate the entirety of government by selectively backing and rejecting rape claims.
You might as well call it the United States of Femerica if you're going to make NDAs illegal. The FBI already admitted it wasn't campaign funds.
He wants the visuals of Trump in handcuffs and wants the mugshot so he can be considered a hero to the left. This is his opportunity to make a name for himself and get a statue in NYC. Even if the case gets dismissed according to the law he got what he wanted.
How else can he cement his job at MSNBC after his time as DA is over? By doing exactly this.
No, the guy who "got Trump" will have a political career in NY for quite some time. He'll be running for mayor or senator before he's off to MSNBC. That's where their has-beens and failures are put out to pasture.
He can't "get Trump" if the charges are thrown out to continue his career in NY politics. And it sounds like the case is weak, at best. Just being responsible for putting Trump in cuffs and perp walking him is enough to land him a MSNBC gig for eternity.
We're in agreement here. The arrest was all that I meant.
Or the book deal...or a "tenured" position at a university teaching one class a week for a six figure salary. It's always one of these three.
Yup. That's all this is about. This fat faggot knows this will fall through, but he just wants the optics.
The case would be illegal to bring even if there was a case (which there isn't), simply because the statute of limitations would be long since expired.
Probably a requirement to get a bonus from Soros.
Bragg is an appropriate name for him then. It's funny how many cases there are of the names working like this in clown world.
If he's arrested for paying money to a porn star to keep her mouth shut, then so should every other politician who's done the exact same thing.
Starting with Bill Clinton.
Justin Trudeau had a settlement to make something go away, the media in Canada doesnt seem to concerned about that for some reason
What about all those people in the House and Senate that had all kinds of shit swept under the rug and covered up with bribes and other methods probably up to and including murder?
Not even just the ones they paid off with campaign funds. Disclose the records of taxpayer-funded payoffs to those who have claimed sexual harassment against sitting elected officials.
That's a terrible idea that would effectively give women control of Congress.
The only reason for barricades is a show. The organizers of any riots will be our FBI
It’s a yawn.
Abuse of power like this should have this douche locked up.
In a pine box
With fire ants.
Diversity hire and a racist also
Even if this supposed "offense" occured, the statute of limitations has long expired.
It can’t be a misdemeanor because the statute of limitation for a misdemeanor have passed.
Wait, so they can just magically change it to a felony because the SOL lapsed on the misdemeanor?
They are claiming the payment was recorded wrongly in business ledger to conceal a campaign finance violation. The felony comes in when the business transaction was wrongly recorded to conceal another crime.
This speculation is based on what’s been said hard to know for sure until the indictment comes. If they are pursuing what I stated above it is complete bullshit with not even an ounce of legitimacy.
I see. Interesting. Saw on another post that the felony violation has a 5 year SOL. Any truth to that?
My understanding is a felony could be charged and not be passed the sol. I don’t know what the sol is though.
There is a section that elevates the offense to a felony if committed in furtherance of another crime, which is what they're alleging.
of course the main crime is "orange man bad"
Changing it to a "felony" doesn't matter. The statute of limitations has expired on that as well.
It can't be a misdemeanor either. The statute of limitations has expired. They're really desperate.
Is this a good time to discuss Congress's "slush fund" to cover sexual harassment claims?
It should be nothing at most.. statute of limitations has run out AND that sleaze Stormy Daniels paid three hundred thousand dollars TO TRUMP in a case she lost for this very thing!!
She admitted they did not have sex.
There's no "there" there.
Political kabuki theater over a nothing burger that the statute of limitations has already expired.. The fact that this campaign contribution issue happens with hundreds of politicians every 4 years and a fine is paid or corrections are made and that is the end of it is mute with these TDS riddled magots.. All part of the never ending smear that has been going on for 7 years now..
The MSM is going to write about what a hero he is lol. I can’t wait to see how badly this backfires against them- in fact I’m surprised they trying this at all.
They've got to try for a basis to get him off the ballot in a few states. Just cheating (like last time) might not be enough.
This is going to be the most expensive photo shoot of ALL TIME!
It is a 'Federal Statute'... State of NY nor NYC - has actual jurisdiction.
Tucker explains this well - via Treehouse
At worst, Trump should have to pay back taxes on the $150,000. This could be solved with a letter in the mail, from which Trump could respond by mailing a check.
Lots of NYPD (including legal observers) posted outside of JP Morgan on Madison & 47th. Strolled by TT and there were a couple of masked glowies holding a Let's Go Brandon banner with a dozen press video/photographers getting shots.
The Penninsula hotel is swarming with Feds, concrete barriers and NY sanitation trucks (often used for bomb and vehicle protection).
A mob of undercover feds are ready to "protest"
so, walls work?
Bongino said they are waiting til next week now 😂
The extradition process will cost millions and take years.
Thing is, I don’t see why Trump shouldn’t have written off some expenses regarding his ND settlement with “Stormy” as campaign expenses, considering how hard the media/Dems tried to sink his campaign with that girl and her lawyer’s BS. Seems like the Stormy shit has always been a politically motivated nothing-burger, so yes, a campaign expense to fight the establishment trying to ruin the outsider’s campaign.
there is NO crime
Maybe he won't get charged and they fear the wacky left rioting
If the grand jury returns a true bill, the prosecutor isn't going to just drop it. And, as is well known, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich. If a NY grand jury is like other jurisdictions' grand juries in this respect, all they need is a simple majority for a true bill.
Trump isn't even in New York though.
I've been wondering about this. A felony warrant could be served anywhere. They just need to make arrangements for him to have a bond set, so that he can get right back out when he turns himself in for processing. There's no reason for him to go to NYC for it, unless it's a no bond warrant. Then he could make that interesting if he wanted to fight extradition from Florida because DeSantis would have to sign off on it.
that would be very '4D-chess'
I’ve seen a bunch of people saying he would turn himself in if indicted. I haven’t seen the source for this though but enough people have said it so it may be true.
Again, I haven’t personally seen the source though so who knows.
I'm willing to bet the DNC is pressuring Bragg to do this and the DNC was pressured to do this by the FBI. The FBI want this to happen because they will assasinate Bragg and blame it on Trump supporters. It's not as if the US three letter agencies haven't assasinated US citizens and political figures in the past.
Supposedly delayed until next week. Sounds like they're coordinating to make less advantageous to Trump.
It can’t be a misdemeanor. The statute of limitations expired on that. That’s why he’s charging him with a felony - the statute of limitations isn’t up yet. It’s a ridiculous charge.
He should be on Trump's payroll. Helping him secure the 2024 election.