GAETZ: If I were Governor of Florida, I would not allow any Floridian to be hauled before a Soros-backed prosecutor in a blue city over politics. I wouldn’t make an exception to not protect the President of the United States. (twitter.com)
posted ago by CyanScales ago by CyanScales +1309 / -4
Sadly, DeSantis took the route of a coward
A coward who obtains his orders from the RINOs at RINO Central.
Does anyone Really think Ronnie would stand up to real testing? Like the FBI hauls his family in for questioning, they raid his house, use every agency and governmental power illegally against him? No, he'd fold like laundry. Frankly unless you are targeted violently and threatened with prison I don't trust you. He is a shady politician who is allowed to agitate with loud but ultimately meaningless gestures.
This was his test. He failed miserably. He’s a faggot forever now.
And he will pay the price.
he did! "following the rule of law" is what jeff sessions did when he recused himself. its what pence did when he "certified" the election. its like... all you have to say is "its the law" and the rinos will lie down!
the constitution exists because of abuse of power by the government! desantis knows new york is abusing their power, yet he will go along with it because... its the law!
so whats makes anyone think he'll stop an abusive fbi or cia or nsa as president? when they take away our guns because of "red flag laws", he'll just stand by and say "well, its the law"
TBF DeSantis did say he won't be assisting the Soros DA in his quest, meaning no extradition
No he didn't. He said he wouldn't get involved.
He tried to play both sides with his answer that's why the soros DA comment was there.
The stupid part is that he nor any part of Florida law enforcement wouldn't be involved with this at all, since Trump has that Secret Service detail. If New York indicts, Trump turns himself over to his Secret Service detail and that detail handles everything from there. There never would have been any extradition because Florida law enforcement would never have arrested Trump in the first place, nor would NYPD fly down there to do it. That's what the Secret Service handles.
So, basically, DeSantis just tossed himself on that sword for absolutely no reason, and it's looking like he's flopping around on it now to drive it in further.
It's also stupid of Gaetz saying what he's saying now, since he should know this just like DeSantis has to have known this is how this works.
Seems Gaetz has chosen a side, let’s see where the others fall
DeSantis is fine, but only if Trump willingly endorses him.
Without the endorsement he will never get my vote.
No hes not fine.
If GEOTUS decided not to run for whatever reason, Rand or DeSantis are the only sane choices I can think of.
Jim Jordan would be good, but I don't think he expressed interest.
No desantis , get off his jock. Hes a deep state plant
DeSantis is deep state all the way. He is a skull & bones man and a globalist shill. They keep a stable of politicians and groom them when they are city councilmen or nobody's.
They keep many backups just in case. They look for shake n bake candidates that check boxes. Technically Hispanic but white enough, connected to globalist, shills for aipac, etc. They need to "look" right, preferably with some kind of military experience. They thought swalwell might be good but he is just incompetent. Dan Cringeshaw is another bs Playtriot.
That's disinfo from the deep state to divide us.
Look at his actions, not what the media tells you.
Wrong. Listen to him and his stance on Trump. Tells you all you need to know
His actions like almost immediately flying out to Israel to sign a copy of an antisemitism hare speech law florida passed once he was first elected?
My concern as I’ve mentioned often is this propensity to pass Laws, here’s another example https://www.propublica.org/article/desantis-google-teneo-video-big-tech-breakup
Remember, it was ‘Republicans’ that passed the Patriot Act and DHS who are surveillaning us today.
We Maga not republican. We wear the flayed skin of the GOP but we are merely being expedient.
Did he though?
He is not and probably never will be the gov of Florida. Easy to SAY something like this.
Doesn't matter. He's taking a shot at DeSantis. He is voicing support for Trump as well. This is exactly how it's done.
Bruh, he nominated Trump for Speaker of the House
He's chosen a side alright!
It actually does matter, since Gaetz knows that the Secret Service would handle this with zero involvement from the State of Florida. He's basically telling people what they want to hear when it has no basis in the reality of how things work when he knows how these things work.
I like Gaetz. I've donated to Gaetz even though he's not even in my state. This, though, is at best, disingenuous.
Gaetz isn't claiming authority he doesn't have, just giving his own opinion on DeSantis.
He very much is claiming authority he doesn't have. If he limited himself to talking about extradition of regular citizens, that'd be one thing, but he specifically also mentioned the President of the United States. He fully knows that's not how that works because of the Secret Service details that former Presidents have. Florida wouldn't be extraditing Trump, the Secret Service handles all that. The governor of whatever state the President is in would have no say at all in the matter.
I like how you think you know more about legal minutiae than Gaetz. 😂
Everyone should know it by this point.
the dam breaks when leaks like this occur! it only takes one person to start the momentum. as more and more people start saying "why isnt desantis doing anything about this??" desantis will start feeling the heat.
he may continue on his path of stupidity, but it will eventually be clear to him that he made the wrong decision...
I see ALL I need to see about DeSantis. It's sad, really. I had such high hopes for 2028. No more. I will NEVER vote for him. He has shown who he is.
Nothing's happened yet, dickweed.
Wait to see what happens, and stop hyperventilating like a little girl.
Powerful shit from Gaetz. Nice.
Daily reminder DeSantis was groomed to be a neocon puppet, he is a skull and bones man, and is linked with all that shit going back to his youth. He may seem to be off the reservation but it's mostly just a show. He quietly let Disney continue their deals and such. Biggest red flag is all the wrong people like him.
Low Energy Jeb, his war criminal brother and Karl Rove might be advising DeSantis.
Like how Gaetz casually refers to Trump, at the current time, as "the President of the United States"
if I were governor of florida, I would focus on being governor of florida, not campaigning for another office
DeSantis fucked up
Won't ever get my vote.
Do you see this, Desantis shills? This is all your favorite Meatball had to do. This is all we required of him. And he’s so spineless that he couldn’t even say it.
I believe that Gaetz wouldn’t let that happen. But cuckSantis on the other hand.
This is all DeSantis had to say to convince people to vote for him. Unfortunately no, by not defending Trump DeSantis is literally telling you, that if you're accused of wrongthink and to be indicted, DeSantis won't defend you.
Maybe Trump wants this to happen, it is a great optics opportunity.
Honestly nothing has happened yet. For all we know, desanitary has helped in some way. Just because the media hasn't said something or blasts a headline that says he's taking shots at trump, which he didn't. He said I would be a good president and I can beat Biden. Piers Morgan, the man who thinks we should all give up every firearm, is the main source on this. Stop living headline to headline.
Hot air. He can't refuse.
lol. no extradition between states.
You are unbelievably uninformed.
All in all this psyop was extremely successful. Any way you look at it, it got a bunch of infighting in our group. All it took with some fat DA to say he was thinking about arresting Trump. Now watch Trump not get arrested, or get arrested and nothing come of it, either way, the damage is done and what was a great ally to Trump will probably never be a repaired relationship.
The Const. requires it.
A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime. U.S. Const. art. 4, § 2
He is being charged with a misdemeanor which is being elevated to a felony only on the basis of Drumph Bad.
Additionally, the statute of limitations has long run.
No illegal order need be followed.
Pure fan fiction. As long as probable cause exists- the state has no choice. Constitution is still the Constitution, whether you like it or not.
While t's likely the case would be tossed you can't deny there are some novel legal arguments here. To not even try and fight extradition is weak and stupid.
I humbly beg to differ. A smarter public-facing move for a presidential candidate is to say you cannot wait to get into court and expose this political persecution for what it is. It looks much better than trying to avoid the charges entirely. That makes you look weak or guilty or both.
Nothing in the current situation rises to the level of what The Constitution clearly spells out in the referenced passage.
Trump did not "flee from justice". Trump did not "commit treason or a felony". He wasn't "found while on the run in another state".
This is a patently obvious political persecution and DeSantis had an opportunity to prove he's who he says he is by refusing to allow such treatment to negatively affect a Citizen/Resident of the State of Florida.
He shit the bed when the simple answer would have been to tell NY to fuck off with their political witch hunt.
I have to wonder how the DeSantis camp is feeling today now that additional information regarding exculpatory evidence being withheld by the NY DA has come to light.
The DeSantis camp looks like a collection of utter retards for piling on Trump at this moment and deserve whatever blowback comes as a result. DeSantis' support has been plummeting since this debacle.
Everyone knows it's political persecution. That doesn't change a facially valid extradition request.
Well, it is and it isn't. Trump's lawyer, Joe Tacopina has admitted that Trump falsified a business record. He has done it on television a number of times. So there is little question that Trump violated the law. The question is whether this would be prosecuted if his name wasn't Trump.
Trump was not involved at any level.
Cohen said he didn't tell Trump, and didn't use Trump's money.
Why don't you google "Joe Tacopina interview" so you can hear Trump's own lawyer admit that Trump was involved; and while Cohen put up the money- Trump reimbursed him for it. DO you not remember that Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator in Cohen's indictment? GO back and read Cohen's indictment and you can see exactly what the government knows.
Political persecution violates the 14th ammendment. So no.
Except it isn't, so...
Good luck with that.
You're a delusional imbecile. What do you think the term "other crimes" refers to? Fleeing justice is limited to eluding the cops, crossing the state line and then flipping them off. Under you idiotic assertion- I could embezzle from my employer, and then six months later move to another state. Then six months after that and at the annual audit my crime is discovered. According to you, I cannot be extradited because I didn't flee, I moved? Are you sure you want to go with that?
How is Trump going to campaign? What happens when he goes to Democrat-held swing states that he needs to win? Do you seriously think that he won't be arrested and locked up without bail because he is a fugitive from justice? How does he win the Presidency from his cell? You dolts need to stop larping. We need to win normies over, not illustrate how stupid we are.
Resisting governmental overreach under color of law is "imbecilic".
Your need to lash out at me with your reductio ad absurdum examples of how the actions of the DA are justified seem to completely ignore the trasparent abuse of power present in what is being done.
If Trump has to worry about being arrested in every single blue-run shithole across the country while he's campaigning then this whole discussion is moot anyway.
Accepting lawlessness from those in charge of enforcing the law is not going to "win over the normies". It is, however - exactly how we've gotten to where we are now.
Let's all be concerned about the "optics" and whether people that already despise us and want us dead "think we're stupid" - I'm positive that will yield a different result...
Get a load of this faggot...
You are certainly very rational in your defense of the DA's actions.
I'm quite certain you have a rational explanation for why Trump and only Trump seems to be the focal point of extreme prejudice from our Media, Intelligence Community, and our Judicial System for any and all supposed transgressions against the rule of law.
The Bidens can and will get a free pass for any and all crimes, regardless of how well documented. For Trump? Accusations and innuendos are ample enough evidence for being drawn and quartered.
Your calm demeanor regarding the repeated outrages and miscarriages of justice is quite telling. Thankfully, they have all been a swing and a miss - very likely including the one we're discussing now, which is why it seems all the more odd that you seem so sanguine about the concept of Trump being railroaded when it is coming to light that significant amounts of exculpatory evidence was withheld by the Commie DA in question.
I'm sure you think it's just "business as ususal" that this issue is suddenly cropping up now - along with Georgia piling on with their supposed prosecution related to "election interference" dating back to the 2020 STOLEN election.
And today, it was leaked that a Federal Judge will be hearing "new evidence" that Trump "broke the law" with the documents held at Mara Lago. We sure seem to be covering an awful lot of previously trod ground in a gasping - grasping attempt to prevent Trump from running for office.
And your answer is to worry about the normies thinking we're raving lunatics for noticing what is happening...
Fuck off, shit stain. I'm not defending a political prosecution- I am simply telling you why what Bragg is doing is within the bounds of the law and why your attempts to depict them as not being so are a fucking joke, doomed to fail and reflect negatively on our attempts to bring normies to our side. Stupid, short-sighted losers like you is why MAGA will fail.
LOL - whatever you say, faggot!
The diabolical scheme could be to arrest him, no matter how specious the charge, so that he be released from custody with stipulations on his mobility and speech - the true goal. It's a scheme to prevent him from campaigning, not to convict.
The only way he would get those kinds of restrictions is if he played the idiotic, "you cannot extradict me" game that various dolts are pushing on PDW. Then a judge will be completely justified in denying him bail and/or restricting his movement and ability to comment of the case. Frankly, I think no matter what happens- at his arraignment, Trump's own lawyers will ask for a gag order just to shut him up.
I think the goal is to convict him. By Bragg, by Willis and by Smith. The knives are out. And, like-it-or-not; there is a lot of material to work with.
Any place and time but NYC in 2023 I'd agree.
Sorry, but Gaetz is a grandstanding cuck. How does he get past the Constitution?
"Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2: A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime."
As long as probable cause exists, Florida would have no choice. If it refused, then New York would simply sue Florida in Federal court and Florida would lose there and get fined too.
This guy seems a bit too eager to see his name in the paper every day.
Bullshit. Virtually everything the Left does is unconstitutional, treasonous and against the law.
Well, there is the plain language of the U.S. Constitution in front of you. How is extradition of anyone from one state to another unconstitutional? It literally happens every day of the week.
A competant attorney could easily argue that Article IV does not apply because President Trump did not flee from justice so the standard does not apply. He is a resident of Florida and is domiciled there. Further, statute has tolled and nondisclosure agrrements are legal contracts. This person would argue about the definition of the words flee and justice. A really good litigation attorney would take it further and would argue the meaning of the word "from."
There is no legal precedent of a former President being extradited. You cannot rely on prior case law since it does not exist. Strict construction has been nearly dead legal theory in the judiciary for 50+ years. Democrats would view this as a case of first impression. They would push and push and push against the Constitution. They are unrelentless. In this situation, you want to court to decide so Republicans can go after former Presidents later, if need be. Plus, politically you want to make it difficult for Democrats to carry out asymetric politcal and economic warfare. Make them have to defend this action. It may not result in a court win but you don't put up no fight and say whelp the constitution or precedent says we cannot do this so we will just stay out of it because we have better things to do. You need the Democrats to expend capital and resources in having to defend their actions. Republicans need to show they will take on every legal battle because you don't know what will happen. We cannot get court victories unless we go to court. The law gets exceptions added to it all the time. This could be one of those instances.
Don't waste your time on this faggot - DrAhjitMDrawrz will continue to argue the minutiae of this situation while ignoring the fact that the entire proceedings were put on hold due to the revelation that the DA withheld exculpatory evidence.
This guy is clearly not a Trump supporter and also entirely retarded. He seems to think we should continue to be good little boys and play the game that has been rigged by the same faggots that will not be prosecuting Biden for taking money from China while he was VP.
Boy oh boy.... you really are a moron, aren't you?
"A competant attorney could easily argue that Article IV does not apply because President Trump did not flee from justice so the standard does not apply. He is a resident of Florida and is domiciled there."
So if I am at my vacation home at the beach and I defraud 10 shopkeepers by writing bad checks totalling thousands of dollars. But I leave town and go back to my principal residence in another state- I am somehow not subject to extradition to face charges in the state where these criminal charges are pending? You are out of your fucking mind.
"Further, statute has tolled and nondisclosure agrrements are legal contracts. This person would argue about the definition of the words flee and justice. A really good litigation attorney would take it further and would argue the meaning of the word "from.""
This is gibberish. The charge is that Trump falsely claimed that this was a legal expense. His own lawyer, Joe Tacopina admitted on television that Trump paid off Stormy Daniels. Maybe you should watch the interview before you embarrass yourself any further.
"There is no legal precedent of a former President being extradited. You cannot rely on prior case law since it does not exist. Strict construction has been nearly dead legal theory in the judiciary for 50+ years. Democrats would view this as a case of first impression. They would push and push and push against the Constitution. They are unrelentless. In this situation, you want to court to decide so Republicans can go after former Presidents later, if need be. Plus, politically you want to make it difficult for Democrats to carry out asymetric politcal and economic warfare. Make them have to defend this action. It may not result in a court win but you don't put up no fight and say whelp the constitution or precedent says we cannot do this so we will just stay out of it because we have better things to do. You need the Democrats to expend capital and resources in having to defend their actions. Republicans need to show they will take on every legal battle because you don't know what will happen. We cannot get court victories unless we go to court. The law gets exceptions added to it all the time. This could be one of those instances."
Do you know what the legal status of a former US President is?
It is called "ordinary private citizen". And as such, enjoys only the same rights and bears the same responsibilities as you or I. BTW, "unrelentless" means the opposite of what you think it does.
Don't worry, DeSantis says he will do nothing and not protect Trump. Just like all the other RINO faggot traitors.
Also it sounds like SS is already setup to hand him over. And no one is going to stop the SS from doing it.