That Ron desantimonious line is often misunderstood but he made an ad that was so over the top braggadocious that it really was frankly offensive to Christians. He had some gravelly voice cowboy talking about how God made him on the 8th day or some bull crap it was totally cringe-worthy
Have posted that exact thing here. There had to be a GOPe deal. DeSantis's judgment is clearly lacking, but there had to be a stick as well as a carrot.
there could very well be a stick, trump implied as much in the forms of accusers popping up
though the stick could simply be the knowledge that if you're not with the establishment you're against the establishment, like the mafia approaching your shop and asking if you want protection
Bottom line is that Trump defies that establishment whereas DeSantis apparently does not. You gotta be braver than that if you want to be the leader of the free world.
If he knew that, then it could be an issue of just that alone. Many times, the VP of the President that terms out is the front runner for the next election. Regardless, it's still foolish of him to run against Trump and he's not winning anyone over the way he's handling things. I don't like some of the things Trump has said either, but I think it's obvious DeSantis is getting some really rotten advice now.
There's only one name you can 99.99999999% trust in American politics, and that's trump. Everyone else, be very very careful with.. not saying Jordan or Paul or MTG are bad, but just question them and make sure. Actions are much more important than words.
I no longer trust anyone when it comes to MY health. And you shouldn't either. Once I found out hospitals were getting federal funds for COVID patients, it all clicked.
It's like in the wire, when the teachers can't help the kids learn, because they will lose federal funds if the kids do too well on the tests.
Barnes' theory is that Desantis bought into the line "we got him this time!!!" That the RINOs sold him and thought that Trump would be looking at prison by now
That could still be true (that Trump will not be allowed to run).
But it's a big gamble on Ron's part to believe it and act on it. Because anyone who would accept the nomination under those circumstances would be dead to Trump voters. Which means he couldn't win.
Paul Ryan shot himself in the foot with how he ran the speakership under Trump. Him blocking a lot of the Trump agenda is one of the reasons why they lost the House in 2018. There's always some loss in the midterm, but he also pissed off a lot of people who voted for Trump, so why vote for the people who are in the way of the President you voted for? You're not going to vote for the Democrat, so you just stay home.
Then why didn’t he just wait for that to happen, feign some concern for Trump, then take over the MAGA crown? Did he think he could actually win an election with only RINO and centrist Dems?
I think the hate was just to try to discourage him from letting his RINO handlers talk him into running. He could have avoided all that, by waiting his turn, and continuing to Make Florida Great. But since he’s now shitting on Trump and MAGA, he deserves all the hate he can get, IMO
You do know that Soros invested millions in a Trump real estate project right? Also tell me what RINOs D,Santis has worked with that Trump HASNT? Trump STILL endorsed Lindsey Graham.
Graham helped PRESIDENT Trump get his SCOTUS appointments through, therefore Trump endorsed Graham as a token of gratitude. See how that works? Presidents have to work with Congress to advance their agenda.
What is the national GOP establishment doing for GOVERNOR DeSantis other than offering him money for a presidential run?
It's funny because Rino DeSantis has always been a RINO, even when dumbasses were caressing his balls on this very forum. He was doing RINO shit right from the start, with a heaping helping of big talk nonsense. Just look at how he threatened Disney, then rolled over and surrendered to them. LMFAO
To be fair, he was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus. But if you read between the lines, he was always sort of an ambitious infiltrator. Not a lot of love for him from the other Rs he served in the House with.
I would like to especially clap for Jeb, for without his ridiculous false-start off the blocks in his support of Ron, we may not have picked DeSanctimonious out so quickly.
Yup, he was thinking too much about Chris Christy. Old Christy was popular in 2012 and decided to wait to just be anointed in 2016. But by 2016 he was persona non grata and nobody wanted to hear his bullshit.
DeSantis was worried his star wouldn't be so high by 2028 and so he'd capitalize now. But he forgot Trump. You're no Trump DeSantis, and we all know it. Fuck with the bull and you get the horns.
anyone remember marco rubio and ted cruz??? even paul ryan at one point!
and now desantis, all shining stars...
what do they all have in common? smooth talkers, polished and eager for higher office when they werent ready. its become predictable! the more polished they are, the more likely their performance is contrived. they're not telling us what they believe, they're telling us what we want to hear.
Man I haven't heard that name in a while. Father in law tries to tell me how good of a Republican that guy is. I don't let him talk to me as much as possible.
Ron DeSoros is the best one I’ve heard so far. It has the right number of syllables and points right to the issue: he has sold out to our enemies (mainly RINOs) for donations and connections so he will never be MAGA when it matters most. I don’t know if he actually has any connections to Soros but the point is that he’s been bought by the wrong people
This fact alone is disqualifying. How can a guy be that ambitious and that stupid to blow his chances before he even turns 45?
But look at his timeline. Two years after getting into the House, he announced his Senate run. A year after that flamed out, he announced his governor run. Then starts running for president.
Hope he continues shaping Florida, but he's inexcusably RINO'ing himself in too many ways. Curious how much PAC money he's raking in (Club for globalist growth). Putin, muh war criminal.... DeSantis, where presidential ambition goes to die.
Ron is a RINO from hell, a yaley who I believe was in the same frat as both bushes. He is just a shake n bake politician just a dash of meaningless bluster and half of us are so desperate we get weak in the knees, even though it later is shown to be just flash. Just another lawyer yale-spy who was set up to potentially play his role.
I agree, but the point still remains that if Republicans stand a chance at ever taking back this country, they need to do it as a unified front, and stop being a bunch of crabs in a bucket.
It's the primary. It is a bunch of Republicans fighting over who gets the chance to be president. It is the most important fight imaginable.
You can call for unity in the general, but not the primary. Unity in the primary means going along with whatever the GOP leadership wants and they are not our friends.
I think you're missing my point, and the point of OP's post, which is that Ron had an almost guaranteed run for 2028. Instead he's got a bunch of neocons whispering in his ear, dragging him into this petty tit for tat with President Trump, that quite frankly is turning people like me off from the whole situation, and quite obviously turning voters against each other.
I agree that he had a guaranteed run for 2028. The responsibility for Ron listening to neocons is all Ron's. Since he has taken this silly and destructive path, we must now have a fight. I don't want the fight either but if we have to have it, let's have it now.
Lol he didn’t throw anything anyway, everyone seems to forget how short our memories are these days. He’ll never be Trump’s #2, he’s not built like that, but he will be our top MAGA rep once Trump retires…
The truly sad part is he probably has a better chance of becoming president now, if he went against the swamp he was done, by doing the swaps bidding he was probably chosen as the next Republican president.
Ron DeSantis: "Alvin Bragg is a Soros-backed DA and this is clearly a case of weaponizing the justice system. Soros DAs are creating havoc in this nation. In fact I went out of my way to remove one from office in Florida. We will not be assisting Bragg."
I'm not being pedantic. You made up a quote. He never said he "would not assist Bragg." He said he wouldn't get involved. Not getting involved could mean not fighting extradition at all, meaning letting Bragg do whatever he wants.
You had no business putting those totally made up words in quotes. Liar.
I had hoped that people around here were already familiar enough with his statement that they would recognize a summation when they see it.
I see now that I was wrong, because most people here seem to think that DeSantis is a Soros-loving cuck for not mobilizing the national guard in service of a guy who has never indicated that he would even try to defy an arrest.
An arrest which did not even occur on the 21st, as you know.
I had hoped that people around here were already familiar enough with his statement that they would recognize a summation when they see it.
Lol, nice try.
For the record, here is one more time the statement that you totally made up and put in quotes in order to make it sound like DeSantis said it:
Ron DeSantis: "Alvin Bragg is a Soros-backed DA and this is clearly a case of weaponizing the justice system. Soros DAs are creating havoc in this nation. In fact I went out of my way to remove one from office in Florida. We will not be assisting Bragg."
That's a pretty creative "summation" - a definitive statement: "We will not be assisting Bragg." He never said any such thing nor anything like it.
LOL, yeah, it's really other people's fault. You got called out for making shit up - just admit it.
He said that he wasn't going to get involved. That means he's not going to assist Bragg.
And considering that Trump and his lawyers, again, said that he had no intention of resisting arrest, I have no idea what DeSantis is expected to do.
You made up a quote. You don't get to put your words in quotes and attribute them to someone else.
It doesn't matter if Trump said he wouldn't resist arrest. What matters is that DeSantis said he would not get involved. You would have to get involved to fight extradition. That tells me a lot about DeSantis - namely, that he has no intention of helping someone who could possibly need his help in the future and who helped DeSantis in the past.
DeSantis was silent for five full days after the Mar-a-Lago raid, too. So it's a pattern.
Yep he blew the 2024 VP slot and the 2028 nod
Yeah, totally shambolic sabotage of his political career. He took advice from grade A morons and shot his load on his own face
Its kinda sad that all of this unfolded in a week, but hey atleast we know he's a 2 faced globohomo rat now.
Its like a sudden breakup but oftentimes, its for the best
Better to find out now than, IDK, July 2024?
For sure. That's why the people who were butthurt that Trump fired that warning shot are off base. I want to know who the snakes are now, not later.
That Ron desantimonious line is often misunderstood but he made an ad that was so over the top braggadocious that it really was frankly offensive to Christians. He had some gravelly voice cowboy talking about how God made him on the 8th day or some bull crap it was totally cringe-worthy
Oh wow, I missed that. Sheesh.
People already knew months ago because of his OpenSecrets. But never check on your primary sources, because that would be plain uninformed. /s
He took advice from the same people that fooled dumb ass Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is like the dumb grasshopper in Bug's Life:
"They talked fancy to me."
I haven't kept with desantis, what's he done now
Changed his mind on Ukraine didn't defend Trump from political prosecution then told Piers Morgan Trump should have stepped down after January 6
I been saying it for years...
its more likely that he knew he would not be trump's vp through insider baseball, and he was presented with a deal,
you can be gop front runner in 24 if you accept our help, or you can try in 28 without our help
trump knew they got to ron its why he swung first
Have posted that exact thing here. There had to be a GOPe deal. DeSantis's judgment is clearly lacking, but there had to be a stick as well as a carrot.
there could very well be a stick, trump implied as much in the forms of accusers popping up
though the stick could simply be the knowledge that if you're not with the establishment you're against the establishment, like the mafia approaching your shop and asking if you want protection
It's all part of the same game, isn't it?
Bottom line is that Trump defies that establishment whereas DeSantis apparently does not. You gotta be braver than that if you want to be the leader of the free world.
If he knew that, then it could be an issue of just that alone. Many times, the VP of the President that terms out is the front runner for the next election. Regardless, it's still foolish of him to run against Trump and he's not winning anyone over the way he's handling things. I don't like some of the things Trump has said either, but I think it's obvious DeSantis is getting some really rotten advice now.
Is Biden going to get 100 million trillion votes this time? Biden sure brings those youngins out to vote that's for sure
There's only one name you can 99.99999999% trust in American politics, and that's trump. Everyone else, be very very careful with.. not saying Jordan or Paul or MTG are bad, but just question them and make sure. Actions are much more important than words.
I trust trump when he says the vaccine is safe and effective.
I no longer trust anyone when it comes to MY health. And you shouldn't either. Once I found out hospitals were getting federal funds for COVID patients, it all clicked.
It's like in the wire, when the teachers can't help the kids learn, because they will lose federal funds if the kids do too well on the tests.
I like listening to Viva and Barnes
Barnes' theory is that Desantis bought into the line "we got him this time!!!" That the RINOs sold him and thought that Trump would be looking at prison by now
Will they ever learn
That's what I said as well. He was told that he didn't have to worry about Trump because Trump will not be allowed to run
That could still be true (that Trump will not be allowed to run).
But it's a big gamble on Ron's part to believe it and act on it. Because anyone who would accept the nomination under those circumstances would be dead to Trump voters. Which means he couldn't win.
I mean how stupid is this guy?
Controlled Op is happy to be controlled for their price.
That's why Paul Ryan resigned. He thought he'd be picked as VP by Pence after Trump was impeached and convicted.
Paul Ryan shot himself in the foot with how he ran the speakership under Trump. Him blocking a lot of the Trump agenda is one of the reasons why they lost the House in 2018. There's always some loss in the midterm, but he also pissed off a lot of people who voted for Trump, so why vote for the people who are in the way of the President you voted for? You're not going to vote for the Democrat, so you just stay home.
Then why didn’t he just wait for that to happen, feign some concern for Trump, then take over the MAGA crown? Did he think he could actually win an election with only RINO and centrist Dems?
I think we don't know the whole story but the "current thing" is to hate DeSantis. I'm so fucking sick of it.
I think the hate was just to try to discourage him from letting his RINO handlers talk him into running. He could have avoided all that, by waiting his turn, and continuing to Make Florida Great. But since he’s now shitting on Trump and MAGA, he deserves all the hate he can get, IMO
He could believe that and still MAGA. Guess he was just wearing the clothes.
Democrats and RINOs always end up believing their own bullshit. It happens every time.
lmao at Trump "supporters" who still haven't figured out that Trump is liked because a) he really is funded by the people and b) he has integrity.
GotPantses forfeited his chances as soon as he took RINO money.
You do know that Soros invested millions in a Trump real estate project right? Also tell me what RINOs D,Santis has worked with that Trump HASNT? Trump STILL endorsed Lindsey Graham.
Graham helped PRESIDENT Trump get his SCOTUS appointments through, therefore Trump endorsed Graham as a token of gratitude. See how that works? Presidents have to work with Congress to advance their agenda.
What is the national GOP establishment doing for GOVERNOR DeSantis other than offering him money for a presidential run?
Now I really get the sanctimonious reference. He seems to present himself as above the fray/squeaky clean. Not smart.
Cruz playbook. In fact Cruz's campaign manager was just hired by the DeSantis PAC.
The "DeSanctimonious" reference was coined after that cringe video that implied that Meatball was a gift from God.
It's difficult to be MAGA when the GOP establishment owns you
It's impossible. DeSantis knows it and the GOP establishment knows it. Some people still have yet to figure it out, though.
It's funny because Rino DeSantis has always been a RINO, even when dumbasses were caressing his balls on this very forum. He was doing RINO shit right from the start, with a heaping helping of big talk nonsense. Just look at how he threatened Disney, then rolled over and surrendered to them. LMFAO
To be fair, he was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus. But if you read between the lines, he was always sort of an ambitious infiltrator. Not a lot of love for him from the other Rs he served in the House with.
I would like to especially clap for Jeb, for without his ridiculous false-start off the blocks in his support of Ron, we may not have picked DeSanctimonious out so quickly.
Yup, he was thinking too much about Chris Christy. Old Christy was popular in 2012 and decided to wait to just be anointed in 2016. But by 2016 he was persona non grata and nobody wanted to hear his bullshit.
DeSantis was worried his star wouldn't be so high by 2028 and so he'd capitalize now. But he forgot Trump. You're no Trump DeSantis, and we all know it. Fuck with the bull and you get the horns.
Meatball gonna meatball
anyone remember marco rubio and ted cruz??? even paul ryan at one point!
and now desantis, all shining stars...
what do they all have in common? smooth talkers, polished and eager for higher office when they werent ready. its become predictable! the more polished they are, the more likely their performance is contrived. they're not telling us what they believe, they're telling us what we want to hear.
They can't get there honestly and they know it. Their only hope has always been that no one else who can will be allowed to.
Rhonda Santis. Ron DeSoros.
Following the footsteps of John Kasich?
Man I haven't heard that name in a while. Father in law tries to tell me how good of a Republican that guy is. I don't let him talk to me as much as possible.
"was" a good republican and now a great deep state stooge?
Yeah. He tries to get me to read his book and I question why I would waste my time with it, etc. etc.
Ron DisMantle-us
Ron DeSabotage
I dunno those are kind of weak, trying to think of better ones.
Con Disanstis.
Let's try it out:
Trump is not a politician, yet Con Disanstis is nothing but.
Ron Dededee
it's work in progress, but let us know when you have a good one.
Ron DeSoros is the best one I’ve heard so far. It has the right number of syllables and points right to the issue: he has sold out to our enemies (mainly RINOs) for donations and connections so he will never be MAGA when it matters most. I don’t know if he actually has any connections to Soros but the point is that he’s been bought by the wrong people
This fact alone is disqualifying. How can a guy be that ambitious and that stupid to blow his chances before he even turns 45?
But look at his timeline. Two years after getting into the House, he announced his Senate run. A year after that flamed out, he announced his governor run. Then starts running for president.
He tried to hitch a ride on the MAGA train to propel his ambitions, but forgot that the train has no brakes and fatally injured himself jumping off.
Ron DeSoros 😆😆
Hope he continues shaping Florida, but he's inexcusably RINO'ing himself in too many ways. Curious how much PAC money he's raking in (Club for globalist growth). Putin, muh war criminal.... DeSantis, where presidential ambition goes to die.
Right? Threw Trump under the bus….i would love to see his face when he realizes the bus stalled.
Ron is a RINO from hell, a yaley who I believe was in the same frat as both bushes. He is just a shake n bake politician just a dash of meaningless bluster and half of us are so desperate we get weak in the knees, even though it later is shown to be just flash. Just another lawyer yale-spy who was set up to potentially play his role.
I can't wait for the next primary poll when he's going to be in 3rd behind Pence 😂
Rand Paul 2028
What did he do?
Rhonda Santos
This infighting is really unwise since Ron is still the most obvious and probably best 2028 candidate.
I’m sure we can find at least one other decent candidate in 5 years. I think Rand Paul would be even better.
i’m hoping they reconcile after the election
Yeah I don't know what the hell is going on right now. The last thing we all need to be doing is fighting amongst each other.
Exactly the opposite. The fight needs to be had, and it needs to be had NOW. Snakes need to be purged sooner, not later.
I agree, but the point still remains that if Republicans stand a chance at ever taking back this country, they need to do it as a unified front, and stop being a bunch of crabs in a bucket.
It's the primary. It is a bunch of Republicans fighting over who gets the chance to be president. It is the most important fight imaginable.
You can call for unity in the general, but not the primary. Unity in the primary means going along with whatever the GOP leadership wants and they are not our friends.
I think you're missing my point, and the point of OP's post, which is that Ron had an almost guaranteed run for 2028. Instead he's got a bunch of neocons whispering in his ear, dragging him into this petty tit for tat with President Trump, that quite frankly is turning people like me off from the whole situation, and quite obviously turning voters against each other.
I agree that he had a guaranteed run for 2028. The responsibility for Ron listening to neocons is all Ron's. Since he has taken this silly and destructive path, we must now have a fight. I don't want the fight either but if we have to have it, let's have it now.
Lol he didn’t throw anything anyway, everyone seems to forget how short our memories are these days. He’ll never be Trump’s #2, he’s not built like that, but he will be our top MAGA rep once Trump retires…
The truly sad part is he probably has a better chance of becoming president now, if he went against the swamp he was done, by doing the swaps bidding he was probably chosen as the next Republican president.
Where is that quote? Link please. The FULL quote.
Here you go. Please don't be pedantic about being verbatim.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/desantis-blasts-da-bragg-as-a-soros-funded-prosecutor-in-trump-probe/
I'm not being pedantic. You made up a quote. He never said he "would not assist Bragg." He said he wouldn't get involved. Not getting involved could mean not fighting extradition at all, meaning letting Bragg do whatever he wants.
You had no business putting those totally made up words in quotes. Liar.
Not getting involved entails not helping Bragg.
Stop being pedantic.
I had hoped that people around here were already familiar enough with his statement that they would recognize a summation when they see it.
I see now that I was wrong, because most people here seem to think that DeSantis is a Soros-loving cuck for not mobilizing the national guard in service of a guy who has never indicated that he would even try to defy an arrest.
An arrest which did not even occur on the 21st, as you know.
Lol, nice try.
For the record, here is one more time the statement that you totally made up and put in quotes in order to make it sound like DeSantis said it:
That's a pretty creative "summation" - a definitive statement: "We will not be assisting Bragg." He never said any such thing nor anything like it.
LOL, yeah, it's really other people's fault. You got called out for making shit up - just admit it.
Have you listened to the Peirs Morgan interview yet?
Which one? The one where Trump derided Putin as genocidal?
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/trump-blasts-putins-use-of-the-n-word-on-piers-morgans-new-show/
LOL shills don’t work here but luckily you will get your paycheck from Shariablue all the same! Get fucked loser.
Yeah, that's it, you got me.
I've been posting here in defense of Trump for years but I'm seeeeecretly a Bill Kristol-retweeting Wine Aunt.
My cover is blown. And I fabricated Trump's "genocide" quote.
You fabricated the DeSantis quote.
That's not all he said
He didn't even say that. I saw nothing about "We will not be assisting Bragg" anywhere.
He said that he wasn't going to get involved. That means he's not going to assist Bragg.
And considering that Trump and his lawyers, again, said that he had no intention of resisting arrest, I have no idea what DeSantis is expected to do.
You made up a quote. You don't get to put your words in quotes and attribute them to someone else.
It doesn't matter if Trump said he wouldn't resist arrest. What matters is that DeSantis said he would not get involved. You would have to get involved to fight extradition. That tells me a lot about DeSantis - namely, that he has no intention of helping someone who could possibly need his help in the future and who helped DeSantis in the past.
DeSantis was silent for five full days after the Mar-a-Lago raid, too. So it's a pattern.