I fail to see how conceding a rigged election is putting the interests of the Republic ahead of your own.
You are exactly right !!!!
George Washington was 65 when he peacefully stepped down from leadership of our new Nation, but he had lived through the injustices of an unresponsive and unscrupulous government. He endured the burden of leadership with all the attendant hardships and uncertainty. He watched his soldiers, young and old, go ill-equipped and hungry into battles, then buried a lot of them when the battle was over.
And you, Ron DeSantis, can know this: If there was even half the evidence of election fraud, or if enough citizens had been able to convince their State to petition the Supreme Court to examine the evidence of fraud, and the Supreme Court (to its everlasting shame) turned up its nose and refused, George Washington would never have allowed power to be transferred until the matter was settled, Ron.
That is why Chief Justice John Roberts and everyone who sat watching what they all knew was the usurpation of the right of the WE THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT to self-governance are TRAITORS.
And so are all who know the truth and still lie to We The People. Who dares to think the peaceful transfer of power is more important than an honest election - or worse - to use the idea of a peaceful transfer of power as a cudgel to make us sit down and shut up.
The British had a republic back then. The monarch was the executive and they had a House of Lords and a House of Commons as their legislature in the 1700s.
The British government in the 1700s was a republic. We were a British colony. Therefore, George Washington did kick "the republic", as it would be at the time of the revolution since it was the only government he's ever lived under, out of the colonies because he at least agreed with some of what Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence.
You should go back and read the Declaration of Independence, and I'm not being insulting. There's a whole lot of what Jefferson wrote about King George's governance that can be compared to what's going on today. It's pretty crazy how many things ring true today as they did back in 1776.
So, DeSantis' claim that George Washington would step down if he were in Trump's position as President in 2020 when his biggest historical act was to be the general of the Revolutionary Army which drove the British out in the late 1700s is, at best, questionable.
Washington was a bad motherfucker backed by other bad motherfuckers. Not like today’s pussies who are more interested in their wallet then we the people.
Don't think for one second that the nig money and power back then didn't back the war. Look into it.
I would've fully supported it as well, but it was the wealthy backing it, as usual (plantation owners had the wealth back then).
That, and people fought wars with muskets, cannons, swords, and some other weapons.
It was nothing like today. The numbers of fighters were so much lower, and every day men had the same weapons on the field as the world's strongest militaries.
It's a whole different scenario nowadays.
But yes, Washington was a badass.
I read from accounts written by some British government people in the day looked up to Washington, and had to fight him, even though they respected him as a man.
I guess Washington was a brute, the kind of man who enters a room and it was all eyes on him.
Couldn't put his men at risk and gave up every chance of winning
AND still hasn't learned his lesson
He needs to organize the mob in order to use it
but nobody will step up now because he wouldn't do anything and left his supporters to rot in jail, be tortured and executed while they destroy the country
do you really think a vote is going to do it?
They're going to steal again
Do anything they have to in order to continue their path
SO like to men proud of destruction, just wait two more weeks to draw your sword
Unfortunately, Donald Trump is our Tiberius/Gaius Gracchus.
A wealthy elite who wants to fix a corrupt system to help the little guys, but only wants to do it through the system itself, a system that at a fundamental level is totally against him.
The Gracchi’s attempt at legal reforms ultimately ended with the patrician senators illegally murdering Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus.
They even used a lie (they are trying to crown themselves as kings) to justify their illegal killing of the Gracchi brothers.
Too bad its unlikely you'll revisit this guess and consider other possibilities than ones predicated on "he choked". In Trumps case, the truth that can be known is so much more fascinating than polifi fantasies.
" AND still hasn't learned his lesson".
Paraphrasing Hemingway's famous title, "Ask not who these words are for, these words are for thee".
Actually he is talking about how Washington refused to accept the Crown of "King of USA" after he won, before he even became president. He had an army, he had no enemy forces in the continent, and he could have seized Philadelphia or NY or wherever the 'Capitol' was or would be.
Rather he went back to private life while the Articles of Confederation were tried.
Later in life Washington did step down after 2 terms, as he was also asked to serve president for life, but he was a man of character, and was ready to move on.
Yes. The point is, Trump "allegedly" attempted a coupe, right? And Ron says that is wrong. When Washington didn't committ a coup, but a war against his own government for independence.
The colonists came to a point where many saw war as the best option to follow their pursuit of happiness.
To say our government isn't tyrannical, worse than the British empire in its day, would be a bold faced lie.
All western governments are even worse today than a few hundred years ago, which is crazy. Governments always go to shit eventually.
And I think you misunderstood Jack. It's not knocking Washington. It saying it's not always wrong to fight the powers that be.
President Trump chose portraits of two former Presidents to look over his shoulder while he sat at the Resolute desk in the Oval Office; Andrew Jackson and Thomas Jefferson.
An evocative choice? Imo, very evocative.
They definitely don't despise Trump because of his mean tweets. Perhaps they despise him because they understood Trumps portrait comms?
The leftist media and people here are becoming one and the same and while some of us here understand that, the people listening and still watching Fox News will pick sides and will refuse to budge which guarantees a democrat president in 2024.
Why is this so obvious to me and so few others?
We KNOW President Trump goes after the greatest threats to his goals, and then when they’re out of the way it’s back to buddy old pal but his followers don’t seem to understand this.
It’s tactical warfare and a winning attitude but it isn’t a direct personal attack.
Trump admires and respects DeSantis, we know this, President Trump knows this, even the pundits attacking DeSantis know it but the people listening to them don’t and will not be able to be brought back over if DeSantis ever needs their vote again.
"Trump admires and respects DeSantis, we know this".
" We" == ???
"We" =/= me.
If you can read Trumps mind, rather than posting here, perhaps try convincing Team Ron to hire you? They're definitely flush with cash and, based on their actions, increasingly desperate.
Its being interpreted as a lame jab at Trump made by DeSanctimonious. Rather than invoking St Reagan to jab Trump, Rons script writers decided to use General George which demeaned Washington while it revealed Ron.
Both of these things are true. I don’t get the point that is being made here. American leader that put the idea of what America could be in front of everything and led an army against the british government to overthrow their rule so that American values could flourish.
Excuse me, but George Washington as a general was good, only because of his faith but not his defeats. As a president ? He allowed Hamilton to form the national bank against Thomas Jeffersons genius opposition. Ron Desantis is a turd
Agreed.
There wasn't a republic when George overthrew the British. At least, not right then.....
Indeed. With each passing day, DeSantis's own words are sinking him faster than a dot com in the '90s stock market meltdown.....
You are exactly right !!!!
George Washington was 65 when he peacefully stepped down from leadership of our new Nation, but he had lived through the injustices of an unresponsive and unscrupulous government. He endured the burden of leadership with all the attendant hardships and uncertainty. He watched his soldiers, young and old, go ill-equipped and hungry into battles, then buried a lot of them when the battle was over.
And you, Ron DeSantis, can know this: If there was even half the evidence of election fraud, or if enough citizens had been able to convince their State to petition the Supreme Court to examine the evidence of fraud, and the Supreme Court (to its everlasting shame) turned up its nose and refused, George Washington would never have allowed power to be transferred until the matter was settled, Ron.
That is why Chief Justice John Roberts and everyone who sat watching what they all knew was the usurpation of the right of the WE THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT to self-governance are TRAITORS.
And so are all who know the truth and still lie to We The People. Who dares to think the peaceful transfer of power is more important than an honest election - or worse - to use the idea of a peaceful transfer of power as a cudgel to make us sit down and shut up.
The British had a republic back then. The monarch was the executive and they had a House of Lords and a House of Commons as their legislature in the 1700s.
There were ducks and chickens at that time as well.
So?
The British government in the 1700s was a republic. We were a British colony. Therefore, George Washington did kick "the republic", as it would be at the time of the revolution since it was the only government he's ever lived under, out of the colonies because he at least agreed with some of what Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence.
You should go back and read the Declaration of Independence, and I'm not being insulting. There's a whole lot of what Jefferson wrote about King George's governance that can be compared to what's going on today. It's pretty crazy how many things ring true today as they did back in 1776.
So, DeSantis' claim that George Washington would step down if he were in Trump's position as President in 2020 when his biggest historical act was to be the general of the Revolutionary Army which drove the British out in the late 1700s is, at best, questionable.
Make sense now?
Washington was a bad motherfucker backed by other bad motherfuckers. Not like today’s pussies who are more interested in their wallet then we the people.
Don't think for one second that the nig money and power back then didn't back the war. Look into it.
I would've fully supported it as well, but it was the wealthy backing it, as usual (plantation owners had the wealth back then).
That, and people fought wars with muskets, cannons, swords, and some other weapons.
It was nothing like today. The numbers of fighters were so much lower, and every day men had the same weapons on the field as the world's strongest militaries.
It's a whole different scenario nowadays.
But yes, Washington was a badass.
I read from accounts written by some British government people in the day looked up to Washington, and had to fight him, even though they respected him as a man.
I guess Washington was a brute, the kind of man who enters a room and it was all eyes on him.
Washington achieved badassery status while he was fighting for the British!
Don't forget about the Americans wanting to keep their slaves. There's a lot of history to read up on.
This is all you need to know about Washington.
Presidents get 2 terms if elected as such.
President Trump has only served 1
He really didn't get to serve the 1 he got
No he didn't have the support.
yes he did
but he pulled a McClellan and choked
Couldn't put his men at risk and gave up every chance of winning
AND still hasn't learned his lesson
He needs to organize the mob in order to use it
but nobody will step up now because he wouldn't do anything and left his supporters to rot in jail, be tortured and executed while they destroy the country
do you really think a vote is going to do it?
They're going to steal again
Do anything they have to in order to continue their path
SO like to men proud of destruction, just wait two more weeks to draw your sword
Unfortunately, Donald Trump is our Tiberius/Gaius Gracchus.
A wealthy elite who wants to fix a corrupt system to help the little guys, but only wants to do it through the system itself, a system that at a fundamental level is totally against him.
The Gracchi’s attempt at legal reforms ultimately ended with the patrician senators illegally murdering Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus.
They even used a lie (they are trying to crown themselves as kings) to justify their illegal killing of the Gracchi brothers.
😂😂😂
Thank God you're profoundly mistaken.
Too bad its unlikely you'll revisit this guess and consider other possibilities than ones predicated on "he choked". In Trumps case, the truth that can be known is so much more fascinating than polifi fantasies.
" AND still hasn't learned his lesson".
Paraphrasing Hemingway's famous title, "Ask not who these words are for, these words are for thee".
Put down the opium pipe and get a job, hippie
A tyrannical government, Pos.
Yup. Washington didn't even want to be president to begin with, but everyone pushed him to do it.
Actually he is talking about how Washington refused to accept the Crown of "King of USA" after he won, before he even became president. He had an army, he had no enemy forces in the continent, and he could have seized Philadelphia or NY or wherever the 'Capitol' was or would be. Rather he went back to private life while the Articles of Confederation were tried.
Later in life Washington did step down after 2 terms, as he was also asked to serve president for life, but he was a man of character, and was ready to move on.
Washington also led troops to crush the veteran rebellion when they asked for what they were promised.
And rightfully so, what's Jacks point? Sometimes this guy misses so fucking bad it's hard to keep up.
Yes. The point is, Trump "allegedly" attempted a coupe, right? And Ron says that is wrong. When Washington didn't committ a coup, but a war against his own government for independence.
The colonists came to a point where many saw war as the best option to follow their pursuit of happiness.
To say our government isn't tyrannical, worse than the British empire in its day, would be a bold faced lie.
All western governments are even worse today than a few hundred years ago, which is crazy. Governments always go to shit eventually.
And I think you misunderstood Jack. It's not knocking Washington. It saying it's not always wrong to fight the powers that be.
You sound vaccinated.
You can’t read i take it?
"You can't read I take it".
Comment to someone who " cant read" is made in words that have to be read.
Kek.
Because Trump didn't in any way, shape ir firm attempt at coupe.
What he did was attempt to use the law to build a case for overturning the election.
Very different. A coupe would mean using illegal means to obtain power.
You must not be capable of reading. Sorry you’re a retard.
Go to reddit, I think with you're amateur sense of humor/lifestyle you'd fit in better there.
Ps, I love you.
"you must not be capable of" communicating authentically so instead deploy generic and souless tween tourist /pol/ bantz.
No sign of sentient life is detected.
Meatbot? Bot?
you should have been aborted
oh, I can hardly wait.
He looks "a bit like a big fat blathering CovidCabal obsessed moron".
" He" == thee?
Sleep walking, mirror gazing and posting too. Impressive.
However, its time to wakey, wakey.
"There are only two interpretations" that you can come up with. Fortunately, both are incorrect. If at first you don't suceed......
Tip: binary, either/or choices =/= all possible choices. Perhaps expand the think?
"Whats Jacks point?" Whatever it is, its "fucking bad".
Kek.
Not a POSO fan, however....
Asking a rhetorical question rather than a real question is reminiscent of the kind of questions pharisees used to ask Christ.
Putting the Republic over his own interests is exactly what Trump has done.
So Ron looks at the state of the country today and thinks it's not in the republic's interest to have Trump as president? Interesting.
Why doesn't De Sanctimoniuous put the Republic before his own aspirations and just stay the fucking governor of Florida?!!
He overthrew a King... the over saw the establishment of the Republic.
Washington was a land speculator. His Presidency made him rich.
This does not belittle the man. What he did was common in his day. He was still a great patriot.
Neither was Washington perfect -- he preferred Hamilton -- I am more inclined towards Jefferson -- Aaron Burr is a personal hero.
"I am more inclined towards Jefferson".
Me too.
Trump too?
President Trump chose portraits of two former Presidents to look over his shoulder while he sat at the Resolute desk in the Oval Office; Andrew Jackson and Thomas Jefferson.
An evocative choice? Imo, very evocative.
They definitely don't despise Trump because of his mean tweets. Perhaps they despise him because they understood Trumps portrait comms?
So now we’re shitting on George Washington?
No, it's complimenting Washington and Trump.
What do you mean, GW fought a tyrannical government to establish a republic. What we have now is a tyrannical government.
Created a borg. Named your borg, "the media". Then claimed you'd read your borgs mind as a way to white knight for Ron.
Unusual simp so kudos for creativity. However its not persuasive cuz its not true.
What Rons saying aren't digs on Trump, they're akchually digs on "Biden and the Biden crime family". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So true
The leftist media and people here are becoming one and the same and while some of us here understand that, the people listening and still watching Fox News will pick sides and will refuse to budge which guarantees a democrat president in 2024.
Why is this so obvious to me and so few others?
We KNOW President Trump goes after the greatest threats to his goals, and then when they’re out of the way it’s back to buddy old pal but his followers don’t seem to understand this.
It’s tactical warfare and a winning attitude but it isn’t a direct personal attack.
Trump admires and respects DeSantis, we know this, President Trump knows this, even the pundits attacking DeSantis know it but the people listening to them don’t and will not be able to be brought back over if DeSantis ever needs their vote again.
"Trump admires and respects DeSantis, we know this".
" We" == ???
"We" =/= me.
If you can read Trumps mind, rather than posting here, perhaps try convincing Team Ron to hire you? They're definitely flush with cash and, based on their actions, increasingly desperate.
You retard.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?471585-1/president-trump-meeting-florida-governor-desantis
I genuinely don’t understand how anyone here is interpreting this as a jab at Washington. That literally makes no sense.
Its being interpreted as a lame jab at Trump made by DeSanctimonious. Rather than invoking St Reagan to jab Trump, Rons script writers decided to use General George which demeaned Washington while it revealed Ron.
DeSantis, as great as he is as the governor, is starting to slip up. Yeesh.
Nino’s been right all along about DeSantis.
Establishing a republic WAS his personal interest.
Kind of a dumb comment from poso. He obviously doesn’t mean the British
England was not a republic.
Both of these things are true. I don’t get the point that is being made here. American leader that put the idea of what America could be in front of everything and led an army against the british government to overthrow their rule so that American values could flourish.
Let's also ignore the Whiskey Rebellion.
Ron: George Washington set the standard for American leadership "because he always put the Republic before his personal interests".
Consequently, according to Ron,in terms of American leadership:
Orange Man Rad. Florida Man bad.
I agree!
Excuse me, but George Washington as a general was good, only because of his faith but not his defeats. As a president ? He allowed Hamilton to form the national bank against Thomas Jeffersons genius opposition. Ron Desantis is a turd
And then he lead an army - as President - to put down the Whiskey Rebellion. So he and his pals could make bank on the C and O canal project.
Kek.