I like it. I mean, I'd probably have voted to give parents more Right's, but I like his reasoning at least. That is, pass the bill, but also fight for abolishment.
Trump, however, does make good promises and tries to keep them. He has put abolishing the Department of Education on his list of promises. It's the only chance to get rid of it.
This will not pass the Senate and Biden would veto, so this was a great opportunity for Republicans to signal two things: parents rights and abolishing the DEA.
This also got the teachers' unions and Leftists on record for opposing parents' rights. That will matter in local elections in 2024.
Oh the slippery slope of government granting rights instead of those rights being reserved and the government restricting them. I suppose without abolition this might be as good as it gets but it sure feels like being lambs led into the corral.
It’s the same garbage argument for “free trade” that destroyed the manufacturing industry!!!
“Let the power of the free markets rob you dry” when China uses slaves to produce at low cost and cheat! Matt Gaetz would “let the children be abused by any blue state because.. let the states decide”. That’s what it looks like. I must read the bill before concluding, but my understanding is that it only reinforces the parents across the board and doesn’t centralize education. I might be wrong please say it.
Matt Gaetz vote wasn’t needed to push it through so he brought the end goal to peoples attention.
This bill makes it easier for parents to see what’s going on instead of blindingly trusting the system. The end result is more people providing input and helping fix the issues at their local level, thus helping end federals control. It’s a process and he’s playing his part.
It was a stupid reason to vote against it. This law applies not only to government schools, but private/ charter schools too. Even if the DoE is abolished tomorrow, everything in this Bill is just common sense. It was stupid to vote against it.
It was a stupid reason to vote against it. This law applies not only to government schools, but private/ charter schools too. Even if the DoE is abolished tomorrow, everything in this Bill is just common sense. It was stupid to vote against it.
If the government can be used to force you one direction you don't want to go, you think it is better to get a hold of the machine to push others to go the other way instead of eliminating the machine, so nobody can force anyone to do anything. That is why the uniparty wins, and we all lose.
Throw all the bandaids on your severed limbs you want. When these "rights" are edited by the demons don't be shocked when sterilization and anti-white teaching is mandatory. I'm not saying on the surface it doesn't look fine, for now. It will be subverted, and it will be used to everyone's detriment.
Getting rid of the department of education is not a libertarian idea it was something we were promised under Reagan. As for the attempt to spit on a huge base of our supporters: go fuck yourself. I'd trust a patriotic Constitutionalist over some dumb fuck with a big mouth any day.
Ya we need a legal expert with a quick TL:DR review of this bill. Hard to understand most of it seeing as it's partial amendments to existing bills which I'm not familiar of to begin with.
Assuring rights to parents is what the government should do. Protecting people's rights rather than making laws to trample the rights - that's upholding freedom, not increasing government reach.
no no NO! Government should NOT be granting specific Rights. Our founding documents don't grant us Rights in a way that are "positive Rights," that is, Rights that are dictated saying what we CAN do. Instead, we are granted Rights by 'negative Rights," that is, specifically limiting what the government can do.
Take the 2nd amendment. It doesn't say "People should be allowed to have guns." Instead, it says the government cannot infringe on the Rights of people to arm themselves. It is limiting the government, not the people.
Cool. It's fucking bullshit though. Remember when we had the house and senate, and they passed a repeal of obamacare over and over and over knowing Obama would veto. Then, when they had the actual power to kill it off completely with a Trump signature, they sabotaged it, McCain was the one to do it.
They pass bills like this to keep you donating so they can keep running. They know Biden will veto. They wouldn't be passing bills like this if Trump were in office, because they know he'd actually sign it.
House's time would be better spent on investigations and oversight. Try and take down some of the commie agencies.
McCain sabotaged it purely to keep Trump from having a win. He showed in that moment that he was a bitter, resentful old man who couldn't put country or even party over his own private vendetta. He proved to us all how unfit he was for any office, much less the presidency, by letting his own vindictive nature drive his actions at an enormous cost in freedoms and treasure to both his constituents and the nation at large.
Good riddance to the scumbag. But, don't conflate issues. On this occasion, it was this petty old man that screwed us all, not the Republicans at large (for once).
Agree with you on your other points though. Republicans are happy to virtue signal when they know they'll lose. It's much harder to get anything done when they're winning.
The biggest disappointment isn't in the Republicans doing what they have always done. It's the braindead fucking retards who keep giving them money somehow expecting different results.
If these fucking dumbshits would stop giving the party money the fucking party would cease to exist. But they keep fucking giving them money!!!
Matt Gaetz wants the Department of Education abolished. He feels the bill just puts more government into the institution and more regulations. He's principled against growing government. At least he has a good reason based on his principles. I would probably have still voted for it if I were him because the two fights are not mutually exclusive. Fight for abolishment, but in the mean time, make it easier for parents to have control over their children's education.
From Wokeness to funding to bathrooms to Critical Race Theory, the federal government SHOULD NOT be involved in education. I don't want to strengthen the federal Department of Education. I want to abolish it. I don't want Congress more involved in decisions that are best made in local school districts. I want the Congress less involved. Therefore, I voted against today's Republican bill to establish a federal “Parents Bill of Rights.”
Thanks for finding his comment. I like his stance, I see what you are saying but I think it's more important to be principled. It's how we avoid getting to places like this in the first place and it's what we should be modeling for future generations. Besides this bandaid (while doing some good) isn't going to fix the gaping wound that is public education and might be a factor in convincing some not to homeschool, assuaging their consciences just enough. There are going to be casualties whichever path we take. I think a bit of accelerationism here might be better.
Also anyone with more than 2 brain cells would understand that the McConnell (D)-run Senate wouldn't ever pass it, and unless you rubbed a 6 year old's hair on it Biden wouldn't even touch the bill much less sign it so it never had even a snowball's chance in hell of ever becoming law.
Typical Republican dickless fucking bullshit. Make a stand on an issue that makes absolutely zero goddamned difference, and when they have the power to make changes they tuck their dicks so far back up their own assholes even they don't know what fucking pronouns to use.
I hate it when people post something like this and don’t actually include the content of the thing they’re posting about. What is in the “parent’s bill of rights”?
Any time 99% or more of a party votes in a bloc, there should be a forced itemized vote to put on record EXACTLY which items in the bill they do not agree with. No titles, the exact wording, item by item, in congressional record permanently.
every person that votes democrat is a pedo or supports pedo's.
be sure to let them know, just call it out to their face.
all those white suburban liberal women dont like being called that, they dont want to be confronted with their choices.
That's right. The 10 year plan is to run off normal Americans and use the power of
public education to dominate jobs and government, making it easier for world communism to take over the country.
So what! Everything we do in Congress is just political posturing. Nothing will ever pass the Senate, and if by some act of turtle farting it does,...it'll never be signed by Xiden. So it's all posturing. If Republicans had a Super Majority in House, Senate, Court, and WH...they'd still fuck us.
That horse faced cunt AOC had the gall to call it fascism. Yea, when I think of fascism I think giving parents more control and the government less control
Democrats prefer bans and mandates over rights.
5 republicans voted against
Fuckin RINOs!
wha? agreed. source?
I like it. I mean, I'd probably have voted to give parents more Right's, but I like his reasoning at least. That is, pass the bill, but also fight for abolishment.
The reality is that there will be no abolishment of the federal government's involvement in education.
I'm afraid you're probably right...
Trump, however, does make good promises and tries to keep them. He has put abolishing the Department of Education on his list of promises. It's the only chance to get rid of it.
It's a good stance that he took.
This will not pass the Senate and Biden would veto, so this was a great opportunity for Republicans to signal two things: parents rights and abolishing the DEA.
This also got the teachers' unions and Leftists on record for opposing parents' rights. That will matter in local elections in 2024.
Very pleased with this "virtue signal".
You are so right my dude. sometimes that's that only option at hand but it should not be missed. never ever ever take a step back.
Its all about election time, Republican mafia family won this round, but it was still won by a mafia family.
He knew it would pass so he votes against it so he can talk about why.
I didn't consider that. If that's the case, I like it.
Oh the slippery slope of government granting rights instead of those rights being reserved and the government restricting them. I suppose without abolition this might be as good as it gets but it sure feels like being lambs led into the corral.
Governments don't grant rights.
The right to assemble and redress their grievances is already there. The bill builds on that God given right but doesn’t create one.
Exactly, pass this bill for the short term then get rid of the Department of Edjucation.
Jesus, the comments section on that tweet is pure cancer
This is the problem with Twitter.... the code is fine, the USERS are insane.
He's right. A better bill would have been to abolish teacher unions and 'associations' at any school that takes federal money.
Wont do it. Too much money gets spent and lost/laundered theough these apparatus.
Based
It’s the same garbage argument for “free trade” that destroyed the manufacturing industry!!!
“Let the power of the free markets rob you dry” when China uses slaves to produce at low cost and cheat! Matt Gaetz would “let the children be abused by any blue state because.. let the states decide”. That’s what it looks like. I must read the bill before concluding, but my understanding is that it only reinforces the parents across the board and doesn’t centralize education. I might be wrong please say it.
https://www.toddstarnes.com/politics/meet-the-republicans-who-voted-against-the-parents-bill-of-rights-act/
Andy Biggs AZ, Ken Buck CO, Matt Gaetz FL, Mike Lawler NY & Matt Rosendale MT
Yeah I’m confused
https://www.toddstarnes.com/politics/meet-the-republicans-who-voted-against-the-parents-bill-of-rights-act/
Matt Gaetz???
He wants to dismantle the department of education
Fair. I can understand that.
How I view this:
Matt Gaetz vote wasn’t needed to push it through so he brought the end goal to peoples attention.
This bill makes it easier for parents to see what’s going on instead of blindingly trusting the system. The end result is more people providing input and helping fix the issues at their local level, thus helping end federals control. It’s a process and he’s playing his part.
It was a stupid reason to vote against it. This law applies not only to government schools, but private/ charter schools too. Even if the DoE is abolished tomorrow, everything in this Bill is just common sense. It was stupid to vote against it.
It was a stupid reason to vote against it. This law applies not only to government schools, but private/ charter schools too. Even if the DoE is abolished tomorrow, everything in this Bill is just common sense. It was stupid to vote against it.
Seems like the no votes, on the republican side at least, want the federal govt out of it completely. Or at least that's what I'm gathering.
I can get that. So it’s like a Rand Paul vote.
I guess it’s some farty old lolbertarian impulse that “muh government too bigs”.
As it using government power for something good is a bad thing.
This is why we lose.
If the government can be used to force you one direction you don't want to go, you think it is better to get a hold of the machine to push others to go the other way instead of eliminating the machine, so nobody can force anyone to do anything. That is why the uniparty wins, and we all lose.
Oh okay so then let’s just let the left keep passing laws to get what they want while we quietly “tut-tut” from the back seat, right?
Throw all the bandaids on your severed limbs you want. When these "rights" are edited by the demons don't be shocked when sterilization and anti-white teaching is mandatory. I'm not saying on the surface it doesn't look fine, for now. It will be subverted, and it will be used to everyone's detriment.
Getting rid of the department of education is not a libertarian idea it was something we were promised under Reagan. As for the attempt to spit on a huge base of our supporters: go fuck yourself. I'd trust a patriotic Constitutionalist over some dumb fuck with a big mouth any day.
You lose because it’s hypocritical.
"It takes a Village" not Parents to raise a child (for adult snack time).
They took teachers union money just like every democrat that voted against this.
The teachers union is the political woke's slush fund.
Yup I'm here looking to see who they are?
Ban laws and mandate freedom.
Careful. These guys will label you a libertarian and roast you.
Nothing any retard authoritarian wouldn’t do.
They prefer that the government raises your children, same way any communist group does.
You and your family, you're all just soulless pieces of property to them.
They prefer the term "human resources."
"mandates", more like man-dates.
Those too.
Democrats are communist in everything but the name.
Name the 5.
Matt Gaetz? Something tells me this bill has more pork than a Chinese restaurant.
Rosendale is also solid so this smells
Ya we need a legal expert with a quick TL:DR review of this bill. Hard to understand most of it seeing as it's partial amendments to existing bills which I'm not familiar of to begin with.
All those Rs should be Ds. Fuckin uniparty faggots.
So... you don't care why the voted no.
Sounds like you're the fag.
Protecting people's rights isn't government increase, overreach.
More laws don't increase government? The only law that does not increase the government are laws to abolish existing laws.
Assuring rights to parents is what the government should do. Protecting people's rights rather than making laws to trample the rights - that's upholding freedom, not increasing government reach.
no no NO! Government should NOT be granting specific Rights. Our founding documents don't grant us Rights in a way that are "positive Rights," that is, Rights that are dictated saying what we CAN do. Instead, we are granted Rights by 'negative Rights," that is, specifically limiting what the government can do.
Take the 2nd amendment. It doesn't say "People should be allowed to have guns." Instead, it says the government cannot infringe on the Rights of people to arm themselves. It is limiting the government, not the people.
Like the patriot act.
Lefties said the same thing about protecting 'women's rights' and 'trans rights'
Maybe you like the department of education?
Yep, I can guess a couple of them but I want the list.
Biden will veto. Dems want to screw your kids.
If it even gets through the Senate.
Spoiler alert: it won’t.
Yeah know, I was surprised that paragraph ESG bill got through the Senate to Biden's desk.
Manchin and Sinema
Classic Republican strategy, paper tigers
literally and financially
How much pork went to butt sex for Ukrainian Muslims ????
Not enough. That's why they voted no.
Cool. It's fucking bullshit though. Remember when we had the house and senate, and they passed a repeal of obamacare over and over and over knowing Obama would veto. Then, when they had the actual power to kill it off completely with a Trump signature, they sabotaged it, McCain was the one to do it.
They pass bills like this to keep you donating so they can keep running. They know Biden will veto. They wouldn't be passing bills like this if Trump were in office, because they know he'd actually sign it.
House's time would be better spent on investigations and oversight. Try and take down some of the commie agencies.
McCain sabotaged it purely to keep Trump from having a win. He showed in that moment that he was a bitter, resentful old man who couldn't put country or even party over his own private vendetta. He proved to us all how unfit he was for any office, much less the presidency, by letting his own vindictive nature drive his actions at an enormous cost in freedoms and treasure to both his constituents and the nation at large.
Good riddance to the scumbag. But, don't conflate issues. On this occasion, it was this petty old man that screwed us all, not the Republicans at large (for once).
Agree with you on your other points though. Republicans are happy to virtue signal when they know they'll lose. It's much harder to get anything done when they're winning.
The biggest disappointment isn't in the Republicans doing what they have always done. It's the braindead fucking retards who keep giving them money somehow expecting different results.
If these fucking dumbshits would stop giving the party money the fucking party would cease to exist. But they keep fucking giving them money!!!
I do not and will not associate with pedophiles, I mean Democrats.
And 5 faggot RINOs
Is Matt Gaetz a faggot rino now? This sounds good but has anyone read what's in the save our nation's puppies bill yet or are we going by the title?
Matt Gaetz wants the Department of Education abolished. He feels the bill just puts more government into the institution and more regulations. He's principled against growing government. At least he has a good reason based on his principles. I would probably have still voted for it if I were him because the two fights are not mutually exclusive. Fight for abolishment, but in the mean time, make it easier for parents to have control over their children's education.
You both make good points
Thanks for finding his comment. I like his stance, I see what you are saying but I think it's more important to be principled. It's how we avoid getting to places like this in the first place and it's what we should be modeling for future generations. Besides this bandaid (while doing some good) isn't going to fix the gaping wound that is public education and might be a factor in convincing some not to homeschool, assuaging their consciences just enough. There are going to be casualties whichever path we take. I think a bit of accelerationism here might be better.
Also anyone with more than 2 brain cells would understand that the McConnell (D)-run Senate wouldn't ever pass it, and unless you rubbed a 6 year old's hair on it Biden wouldn't even touch the bill much less sign it so it never had even a snowball's chance in hell of ever becoming law.
Typical Republican dickless fucking bullshit. Make a stand on an issue that makes absolutely zero goddamned difference, and when they have the power to make changes they tuck their dicks so far back up their own assholes even they don't know what fucking pronouns to use.
YEA! The Bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/5/text
Reading through it, I don't see anything in it that could be construed as controversial.
The 'against' voters are all groomers.
All of them are groomers
okay and what was in it?
the name of a bill doesn't mean jack shit
Democrats are evil, incarnated.
Remember this, the next time any commie puke dares to cry about "muh rights."
Every single Communist voted against it, they have no interest in negotiating terms.
Democrats are the enemy of the American people.
Needs more money for ukraine
Cool, can't wait to see it breeze through the senate and land on Joe Biden's desk where he will promptly sign it into law... 2 more weeks pedes!
Every democrat would vote against the bill of rights
I hate it when people post something like this and don’t actually include the content of the thing they’re posting about. What is in the “parent’s bill of rights”?
And a handful of retard RINOs almost sentenced the bill to death immediately.
I'll withhold opinion because I don't know what's in this bill. Just because it has a flowery name doesn't mean it's not shite.
Any time 99% or more of a party votes in a bloc, there should be a forced itemized vote to put on record EXACTLY which items in the bill they do not agree with. No titles, the exact wording, item by item, in congressional record permanently.
Democrats are pieces of shit just like their leader.
Because kids belong to the government, not parents, right Dems?
every person that votes democrat is a pedo or supports pedo's. be sure to let them know, just call it out to their face. all those white suburban liberal women dont like being called that, they dont want to be confronted with their choices.
Democrats want groomers led by khazarian teachers unions to raise your children for You
More importantly, who were the five faggot rinos that voted against it?
Andy Biggs AZ, Ken Buck CO, Matt Gaetz FL, Mike Lawler NY & Matt Rosendale MT
To Communists the children belong to the state.
That's right. The 10 year plan is to run off normal Americans and use the power of public education to dominate jobs and government, making it easier for world communism to take over the country.
Yes, tell parents they have no right to know what their kids are learning in school. Hope they are investing in more ballot printers for next year.
When did the party officially change it's name from Democrat to Democratic?
Fuck C-SPAN too
So what! Everything we do in Congress is just political posturing. Nothing will ever pass the Senate, and if by some act of turtle farting it does,...it'll never be signed by Xiden. So it's all posturing. If Republicans had a Super Majority in House, Senate, Court, and WH...they'd still fuck us.
True. And my ass is really getting sore...what to do, what to do?..🤔🇺🇲
It Takes a Villiage... to rape the villiage's children.
This only proves congress is to large and needs an modern day cleansing...
Looks like the Democrats let it pass. 10 NV. It is a sad day. To think this bill didn't pass 435 to 0.
That horse faced cunt AOC had the gall to call it fascism. Yea, when I think of fascism I think giving parents more control and the government less control
Well... they are a bunch of baby killers. I am not surprised they don't like a parents bill of rights.