I'll be honest. As impossible as Trump is to joust against, the guy who most damaged DeSantis this week is Ron DeSantis. And the guy who baited DeSantis into self-immolation is this guy. A young rookie with no political experience. He showed how it is done, and taunted DeSantis into doing it badly! (media.patriots.win)
posted ago by PremAmerica ago by PremAmerica +1229 / -10
The mainstream political consultant view is never support an opponent. They think this was a bad thing to call for supporting Trump. But look what desantis did and his poll numbers just a few days later. The people realize this was a political hit job with serious ramifications. Desantis chose to cheap shot in an extremely serious situation.
DeSantis' problem is he's thinking about 2024. Rather, he should be thinking about 2028. His impatience will be his undoing.
His problem is he is a liar. A typical phony politician. How many times now has he used the line that he needs "to focus on Florida" in order to avoid talking about Trump? We all know he's scheming in the background and doing anything but focusing on Florida. What a lying fuck who just tries to tell people what he thinks they want to hear. Tries to get that sound bite like a sleazy journalist. He ran to be governor for four years, and a few months into his term and he's already focused on the white house. But you see he just wants to focus on Florida and do his job! What a selfish lying prick.
He's financed by all the shit birds who hate the US.
He has betrayed his constituents several times, sometimes behind the scenes, and he will continue to betray. I said this two years ago and got so much triggered vitriol here it was disconcerting- most on this site are ust as manipulated, brainwashed, and retarded as the left and the normies.
Prep and buckle up and pray to make it to the other side of the collapse that is coming, which is absolutely our fault for being lazy, stupid pussies.
Can I shake them salty titties a lil bit? All my normie friends can’t understand why I’ve disliked DeSantis for so long. Now they’re making excuses for him.
I am Retard.
Shake away, if you take the “Mike” and “Hairy” out of your screen name.
Thanks for not being manipulated. We are few, baby.
To be fair I don’t trust anyone these days including Trump, but I still support Trump whole heartedly and would need hard evidence against him of wrong doing to change that.
I love you- one person saying they don’t trust Trump. I live him too, for what he tried to do, but we all need to realize that he can’t be trusted now. Thank you.
Reminds me of Carcetti from the Wire
His problem is he’s listening to RINOs. That’s why his pills are tanking. Has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with DeSantis pivoting from MAGA light to Romney and Ryan brand RINO bullshit that the party rejected in 2016.
The thing is, if you think you have a shot at President, you take it. I understand that. Hard to fault him for it. And his attacks on Trump were far less personal than Trump's attack on him.
I still want Trump with all his bluster and ego. I like DeSantis but he is not an outsider, and will just be a better version of the same crap we have had for decades.
But boy oh boy, for Trump to use that lefty bullshit about "you killed people in covid".... yike. Come on Trump. Covid deaths were overstated at least 15x. Wake the fuck up.
Agree. That "COVID deaths" line of attack from Trump was terrible to see.
What utter nonsense. It seems to glorify the pathological greed for power that typifies bureaucracy.
DeSantis' problem is he forgot how he became governor. Hubris is his undoing.
It’s his wife. It’s always the wife.
I think you're on to something there
His political career is over.
Maybe this Vivek is actually quite intelligent and knows he will never win but can subtly angle for the VP slot as a visible minority
He’s saying all the right things from my POV.
He can build his reputation. He's not a serious candidate for 2024, but young, talented and based. If he's smart, he won't fight with Trump and raise his profile for the future.
Heard him speak in Ohio. He was preaching to the choir, but he was on point.
So you all believe polling now.
If one thing is certain it’s that no matter Republican or dem, people are still mindless idiots who go with the wind.
Stop being mindless retards.
Polls can have value. Many are intentionally manipulated, especially the ones the media carries. And those daily choose to actual voting.
But a 20 point swing in a week is not a faked result. They would have rugged it the other way than it ended up. Except this was a random week a year out, so there's no agenda they're engineering yet.
Polls for better or worse tell a story
Who gives a shit about a story? If it doesn’t tell the truth it’s worse than useless.
Polls were invented, so to speak, by the Tavistock Institute decades ago to steer public belief and opinion, not to reflect the pulse of the public.
Unless a clinic for trans-ing children in the UK were the first to invent polling, or there's another Tavistock Institute I haven't heard of, you're full of shit.
You don’t know how to read, I guess? You have to go a littler deeper than fucking Google, you regard. Did you search MSNBC, is that where you got your answer?
Do better work.
Thank you! Our side has become more unthinking and manipulated retards than the left. It is hopeless.
Well he is being Astro turfed by rinos so who do you think is advising him.
The first problem is Desantis viewing Trump as an "opponent".
Desantis showed his true colors for good. Many of us have had suspicions, since this whole beef with trump. Everyone said it was just noise, but seems like desantis is a FAGGOT. A FAGGOT who said a lot of great things, did s few good things, but ultimately, sold his soul.
This one really stings because desantis was popular even amongst normies. Normies don't usually know state level politicians.
McCain Romney DeSantis
Honestly "DeSanctimonious" is a retarded nickname.
"Romney DeSantis" would be much better
Meatball is best.
Con Desantis or Ron DeSoros both work.
All attempted DeSantis nicknames suck. Including "DeSactimoniuos". It's embarrassing. Please stop trying to make a play on his last name. Noting fits. Rather, try besting "Low Energy". There's the challenge.
Don't care lol.
I tried vacationing in FL when the lockdowns started and that asshat had everything shut down. Couldn't go to the beach, park, etc.... everything public was locked the fuck down. I'm a little bitter because I haven't had a decent vacation since. Things only intensified in my home state while Floridians were allowed to live free. I hope that they're prepared for a surprise shift in policy.
I’m sure all that legislation DeSantis has been SIGNING INTO LAW will magically disappear.
Lol... It is.
His title legislation was overturned.
What did Desantis do?
Nothing, that's the problem. Most was just talk. And he's being endorsed by the worst types of people, and afaik, he hasn't denounced them. No chance in hell Trump would ever be the Bush's pick or George Soros choice, ya know.
We're actually lucky though. If he had played along, endorsed trump next year, he'd have the republican party in his hands. But he seems adamant on running against Trump, and Trump is GEOTUS for a reason. They cannot buy him. Desantis is bought already.
George Soros never endorsed DeSantis. That's bullshit
Saying DeSantis is effective and ruthless isn't an endorsement you fucking retard
He did say RD is the next republican candidate in a very recent interview. If RD was really MAGA soros wouldn’t say that……
He just predicted that DeSantis would win the primary.
People are conflating a prediction with an endorsement, which is pretty damn stupid.
We're talking about a demon who puts billions into our political "elections", who just predicted Ronda winning the republican nomination...
He said he would like to see desantis get the republican nominee and Trump run 3rd party. Do you believe Soros is the type of man who gets what he wants? He has paid for countless district attorney's across American cities.
He obviously isn't gonna outright endorse desantis, he'd much rather have a libtard who he knows is already bought.
All desantis had to do was say he's waiting until 2028 to run. Or are you gonna tell me him and trump running against each other makes trump stronger? Desantis was pushed as a maga type, but they slipped up. He almost had us with the Disney stuff didn't he?
So Desantis showed his true colors by… staying out of situations not directly related to him? Don’t we want him to focus on FL and not the noise surrounding the swamp and their never ending witch hunts? I’m so confused. The post says the dude in the tweet did something to bait Desantis, but you’re saying that Desantis didn’t even do anything. How did Desantis get baited into something… without doing anything?
Has desantis went all in on the trump train yet?
Why not? Why hasn't he endorsed the most popular, loved republican politician in history, especially the guy who got him Florida governorship?
Instead, desantis does a FAGGOT piers Morgan interview. And I've seen desantis in a mask multiple times.
Karl Rove loves desantis. I hate everyone about Karl rove. You can have desantis, and it'll be early 2000s USA.
I want the entire thing blown up, and pre 1913 rules and lack of regulations and departments.
Disney still has special status and are holding the largest grooming event in history.
There’s no way this is referring to that… why even comment if you’re not adding to the conversation?
Lol. He did more good for his state than any other governor. You people are so fucked in your thinking.
I like DeSantis, but am suspicious.
He’s backed by the bush Cheney neocon group. Probably soros as well. He played his hand and thankfully revealed it to be all jokers for all to see.
Meanwhile in Florida they are convicting election fraudsters, empowering parents to get filthy books out of elementary schools, and focusing on infrastructure.
Only those idiots who are no longer useful.
Yeah Desantis is definitely endorsed by Soros, who he's publicly called out multiple times, despite removing one of his prosecutors from power
Well soros himself said Ron’s the next contender. Remember these guys are all pandering to the retards who wear masks and have 7 booster shots so there is heavy manipulation involved.
Saying DeSantis is effective and ruthless isn't an endorsement you fucking retard
Sorry I don’t listen to gay dolphins. NEXT
There’s nothing wrong with being suspicious!
But listening to media pundits and idiots here repeat the same bullshit about DeSantis running when he hasn’t announced it and actually believing them is getting old.
A healthy dose of skepticism is healthy. Listening to astroturfing is not, and it’s the SAME ACCOUNTS spreading the same shit.
I was always suspicious. Now I know he's on the SWAMP payroll.
GW Bush actually did a lot of good things in Texas when he was Governor too.
They do good just long enough to get elected. It's a very Muslim thing. Pretend to be one of your enemy until you can cut their throat.
Good deeds aren't some account you can withdraw from or use as an excuse for present mistakes. You have to fix your errors directly.
How would you recommend "fixing" Operation Warp Speed? By bragging on it? By pretending you had no other choice? Maybe throw out another "Art of War" quote....yeah....that's the ticket!
Vivek is a graduate of the WEF global leader program. His info has since been scrubbed from the website, but it’s out there.
He’s an insert globalist in camo.
The only politicians we can trust are the ones attacked by the media or the DOJ. If the establishment isn’t attacking a candidate, that candidate is a fraud.
Yea his statement here rubs me the wrong way too. He makes it sound like a former president shouldn't be arrested for ANY reason.
If they ACTUALLY committed crimes and it can be proven absolutely they should. Sounds like he's trying to get this idea in people's heads that any arrest by the ruling party is un-american. Very suspicious
All patently true. He and his wife also went to Yale, for what it's worth.
You can spam that link all you want; he still got the Soros fellowship and went to Yale. He's been paid for from the beginning.
Thus is true. I just want people to look at this and come to their own conclusions instead of group think.
Trump had ties to WEF too and even spoke at one of their big meetings while he was president.
As for the Soros thing I am skeptical but I think it's important to clarify that this is NOT George Soros, but it is his older brother. And it's only stated requirements pre 2020 were that you were an new American immigrant or born to American immigrant parents. Basically just a diversity thing which is not great but not the worst.
I know he talks a good game up against WEF and is one of THE MOST vocal on this issue and that has me interested.
Eh, Meatball damaged Meatball the most this week when he walked back his Russia comments. The people are not going to vote for continued war in Ukraine; the Republicans, at least. Democrats are super dumb.
And the fact that President Trump is innocent - which goes beyond partisan politics
Vivek realizes this is only one of at least three different ways they plan on arresting Trump, right?
Why is this guys name on this WEF "Young Global Leaders" list?
He has responded to this. https://mobile.twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1628231811770855426
Space Lizards have infected every organ of the American body politic.
We need mitigation systems.
I support Trump but I like Desantis too, I thought it was stupid and counterproductive for them to quibble over BS, with that said Desantis shit the fucking bed on this Trump indictment thing, this was Desantis' first big test on the national stage and he failed spectacularly, this proves he will buckle and buckle pretty easy to establment pressure, this Vivek guys response on the other hand was perfect, never had heard of him until this happened, he put himself on the map
He needs to shake off his globalist friends and he would have a chance post-Trump. He needs to do this sooner than later, otherwise he's toast. I was a fan, but I'm not sure he'll make the turn-around needed.
If Democrats had principles that would be right. They have goals. To take complete power and subjugate anyone that doesn't toe the party line.
Yeeeeeah but I was a big vuvek fan Boi when he was making the rounds UNTIL I found out he is one of Klaus Schwab's bois
Of-fucking-course he is. It's like a default now a days to be connected in some way to the globalist cabal.
Isn't this guy out of the WEF global leader program?
Yes. Even got a fellowship from Soros.
bullshit. Its easy to pretend to take the high road when you have no polling support to lose. He is just an open boarders free trader that will wash us in more H1BS stealing our high paying jobs. Andrew Yang can even almost makes sense on an issue here or there. Stop trying to be honest. Stop declaring that now you will be honest before you write something. Very sketchy.
This guy didn’t do anything. Mountains out of molehills
I don’t even understand what this post is referencing. I’m in the dark on this one.
Trump plays 12 D chess, he got ahead of this and forced Desucktis to show his true colors just like the globohomo deep state swamp.
NO FOREIGNERS IN AMERICAN POLITICAL OFFICES!
I can't read this guy's tweet without sounding like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.
You've obviously never heard him speak, he is bright and articulate, as Joe would say...
You sound like a weak vaccinated cuck who likes to watch diversity hires fuck his wife to show how inclusive you are.
Sorry, Super Straight Pureblood here, you don't have a clue what you are talking about...
I'm sure he had hardened political warriors like Carl Rove and Frank Luntz providing indepth advise.😆
Good for him.
Doesn't mean I trust him. Anything or anyone wef related is automatically a no. Ramaswampy can keep on moving.
He claims he was unwilling, denied and fought against be nominated.
Soros propped him up because he is of low character and try to skate the constitution.
So far I like this guy.. so yes i see people waving big red flags about this guy
But I alse remember back in 2015 whe Trump first stared making noise...people on the right were waving the same big red flags about Trump...."he a fake, he a head fake shill for Hillary ..a set up...hes gonna sell you out"
Many seen to really forget the suspicion many on the right has of Trump when he first came on....
Really. It just watch and listen time with this guy but so far is making the right moves
Not like DeSunkus who shot his own foot off
I KNEW IT WOULD END LIKE THIS!
Trump has that interview where he says he'd like to lose it all to see who his real friends are...that always plays in my mind when Trump stuff goes down.
Desantis is a clown. Israel first, right Desantis? haha
I did lose it all. I saw who my real friends were. Jesus is my only friend.
Exactly. Trump is trying to see who is loyal. Those who stayed loyal will be rewarded and those who are disloyal will be punished beyond measure.
The globohomo pedo pick DeGroomer will go to prison for being a pedo.
I don't know if you've noticed, but they don't seem interested in preserving our anything.
I call on the DA to suck a fat dick
Ron DeSoros. Make it stick. Don't let up. He did it to himself, he earned it.
RINO Ron f'ed up when he flip flopped on Ukraine and exposed himself as a Neocon.
I must have missed it. What did Ron do?
He did nothing, that's the problem. When a reporter ask Ron DeSantis about the Soros backed DA Bragg going after Trump, who is a resident of Florida, Ron DeSantis took a cheap jab at Trump and said he has better things to worry about and said he would not get involved in the Soros DA Bragg's pursuit.
DeSantis then brags about being the only governor to get rid of his Soros backed DA, pretty much an oxymoron when he's allowing the Soros backed DA Bragg do whatever he wants like extraditing Trump.
So normal people put themselves in Trump's shoes and wonder what Ron DeSantis would do when the left comes for them for wrong think and all they can hear is:
"I'm not getting involved, I got better things to do" - Ron DeSantis.
Democrats are literally the party of fascism.
You don’t have to go back that far. Just see what democrats said about protecting Biden from Trump asking about corruption to Ukraine.
Muh arresting political rivals. This is a stealthy way of saying politicians are supposed to look the other way for fellow politicians. How about if your political rivals actually did something wrong, you damn well do arrest them.
As a tennis player, he knows that it’s not about damaging your competitors. It’s about out playing them. Something politicians with the exception of Ronald Regan don’t have the intellect to do.
Jeb Bush says you should go with DeSantis.
When a hero suddenly becomes a villain I think of MacBeth. I also think of the forces that compel the hero to his demise. And then I think of Lady MacBeth.
Where did this debate take place? Can someone provide a link where I can find more information about this debate?
They smeared John Wilkes Booth who knew a traitorous Tyrant when he saw one.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.