1083 Major respect for that kid. (twitter.com) posted 65 days ago by ironhorse 65 days ago by ironhorse +1085 / -2 186 comments share 186 comments share save hide report block hide replies
Just another day in child prison.
Government schools are pens for future tax cattle, no more and no less.
Honestly, I wouldn't know if this was a school or a juvenile detention center. The environment looks dull and cramped in enough to be either.
Yep! Private School prices just keep going up and up and up and parents pay it gladly. If parents can't swing the cost then it's home schooling.
Poor kid who got hit. . . he needs a dad. . . 2 mommies will teach you to sit there while being punched in the face.
Don't see it like that. He is probably the one with a dad. Way smaller than the bully, but way smarter. Shithead bully, who is prolly the one without a dad, got bored and left.
That’s right. Growing up without a father in the home makes a boy turn his anger outward. Growing up without a mother in the home makes a boy turn his anger inward.
Growing up with both parents in the home makes a child who isn’t full of anger, because he doesn’t feel a primal betrayal at his core.
Parents completely screw their children up all the time when they're both, mother and father, in the home. If they're in a fallen state, they're children will resent them and we become like what we hate.
What are you arguing for, exactly then?
I'm arguing that the idea of just having two parents, a mother and a father, is good but isn't a perfect solution iif the parents aren't perfect or at least good examples, and children can end up being any of the three we see in this video if their mother screws them up or their father is weak
It isn't perfect but it's the best any child can have which makes it better than any other option.
Of course, I completely agree and the stats back up our conclusion
That's the dumbest fucking comment ever. There are two parent households that fuck their kids up and single parent households that produce great children. It has everything to do with the parent(s).
The only way anyone would ever claim your statement to be true is if they have zero understanding of the world. It would also require overlooking the fact that there are plenty of abusers, rapists, and psychopaths raising kids in a two parent household.
Two parents is the preferred condition to raise emotionally healthy children, but there are exceptions when the parents themselves are emotionally sick.
Maybe I should've explained I realize there is a spiritual component to life and most people are imperfect because they're fallen away from God and it gets passed down from the parents to the children. So I've noticed it is not the exception but the rule, and people can return to God and find perfect peace
Yea but isn’t that really the exception that proves the rule?
I agree. My ex-wife and I were awful together, but “stayed together for the kids” — until we didn’t. The only point we both totally agreed on was the kids, so we worked out the others through compromise and had an amicable divorce. We’ve both done well subsequently and have managed co parenting well, with zero shittalking. Kids are getting everything they need, and better with this arrangement.
This hite close to home.
Correct they all shouldve best on the kid that started it. If your not big enough to do it alone gotta tribe it til you can.
Fair point, I would suggest both do not have father figures. . . the one getting bullied may have a male in the house. . . but it is easy to tell he doesn't teach the boy anything of any use. . . or have much interaction. . .
The schools have a zero tolerance policy. As soon as you lift a finger to defend yourself, you’re just as guilty as the kid who attacked you. Hello suspension or expulsion.
Everybody is always in such a hurry to blame the fathers, even on our side. No wonder marriage and family barely exist anymore, too many dumbfucks constantly badmouthing dads.
On the flipside, that kid took three shots to the jaw and kept eating his lunch, his dad must be a beast.
I say this with all due respect. . . your retarded. . . the only kid in this situation who probably has a good dad is the one who stood up to the bully. . . the bully and the bullied are illustrations of failed male role models in their life. . .
He's right thhough in a way, the friend would get in trouble all the time being the kind who stepped in to stop it. End up getting the same punishment as the bully. And you're right the two who have problematic mothers and weak fathers are the bully and bullied. The friend has a good impression made by his father
Both are right, but are saying the other is wrong.
Ok, that's his retarded. Where's yours?
Correct. Defending yourself gets the same punishment as the bully. Chick logic where “violence is bad”
Father or not, some kids are just little jerks.
He not going to be smarter if he keeps taking hits like that
glasses first thing most kids learn with glasses. don't take shots to the face if you wear them. and if your are about to fight you ditch them.
Lol u r a faggot.
When he first got shoved the shover was already standing in as superior tactical position. He probably thought "maybe he'll be satisfied with a shove and stop" because if you get up to attack you might risk the fight continuing from an inferior position.
After the shove, my guess is the first punch to the side jaw stunned him, He realized turning to face this guy would expose his mouth/nose/eyes so probably turned away in hopes the kid would hurt his hand punching his neck/skull
Gotta admire the kid who fought back. It didn’t take long to figure out he was outmatched, but he doesn’t give up. He’s gonna make that fucker taste his own blood at any cost.
Notice that when the bully is punching the kid sitting down, no adult cares, but as soon as the bully is threatened, the adults come flying.
You can say "joggers", you are among friends. We speak the truth here.
Did the adults see him punching the first kid? It's a crowded cafeteria. Impossible for a handful of adults to have eyes on every kid at all times.
Bro I can pick up on someone picking their nose discretely or a drug deal in a corner, in a crowded mall cafeteria, eavesdropping, while actively engaged in a convo, and I'm not superhuman... at least I don't think I am.
Situational awareness it appears, is lacking in more than I expected 🤷
gotta rescue chad
He should have opened with the thermos maneuver. Might have had different outcome and achieve "do not fuck with" status for remainder of HS.
True. He made the mistake of trying to fight clean. Hopefully he learned his lesson, and next time won’t neglect whatever advantage he possesses.
A person willing to be vicious first will almost always win a fight. Approaching someone you’ve already witnessed being violent and just standing there is just starting off losing.
The only way to deal with that bully is to fly over the table with fists aimed at his mouth, over and over without pause until inevitably someone pulls you off. That will guarantee two things: 1. The bully won’t have a static target for practice and 2. He will have lots of time to think about it while in the dentist chair.
This. I tell people and friend's children go 100%. Unleash. You don't want to be the one getting stomped. Possible prison or brain dead?
This is what I tell my sons frequently: there's no such thing as a fair fight. A fight is a fight and the other person seeks to do you harm. Do. Not. Let. Them.
anyone have a link explaining what this is? unfamiliar, google won't help
Take your thermos while the bully isn’t looking and smash it over his head. 90% success rate.
The kid in the who stood up for his friend had a steel water bottle in his hand, which he deliberately dropped before picking a fight with the bully.
These guys are saying he should have smashed the bully over the head with the water bottle instead of trying to grapple him. I have to agree.
didn't notice the water bottle drop, though maybe he knew he'd be villified for using it even though in this case it's warranted
He needs to learn to fight. Going for the headlock there is a losing proposition especially as the smaller man
Should have gone low.
He needed to get his hips back to do that
The man in the Arena
Gotta sweep the legs or just got straight for the rear naked choke. Kids got potential.
My dad made a smart move. He told me that if I got in a fight at school, one I didn't start, he'd give me $50 and have my back 100% if they tried to punish me. He wanted to make sure I had every incentive to stand up for myself if it came to it. Nobody ever started a fight with me though, so I never got to cash in.
Pops told me the same thing, minus the cash incentive. Same thing happened- I perfected my "don't fuck with me" staredown and was never touched.
When I was in school if you got in a fight the worst that would happen is they’d send a note home and MAYBE you’d get a detention. They saved suspension for real significant violence.
Now if you get beat up by a bully, you and the bully get thrown out of school permanently.
This isn't even remotely true.
I'd say it's at least 'remotely' true. Like it's not true 100% of the time but unless there's footage showing you weren't the aggressor I think they punish both parties to cover all their bases.
Oh really? Do you know schools now have a zero tolerance policy about fighting? They don’t care who starts it. That’s true.
I know that kids who get into fights aren't "thrown out of school permanently." I also know that kids who get beat up, meaning they didn't actually fight back, usually don't get suspended at all.
Source: Good friend is a principal at a public middle school.
This happened at least once a month in my high school cafeteria. Country boys scrap as much if not more than city kids. We dont shoot each other though, huge difference. This hardens men, the coddling helicopter faggot moms and dads starting in the early 2000s didnt help. Ill jump into story time here because this coffee is kicking in, regarding bullies.
My daughter had a bully on the bus in 2021. Ity got so bad that this little shit PUT GUM in my daughters hair. I got off work UPS and picked her up from the bus stop to find out she had gum in her beauitiful hair down to her ass. Thankfully it was in the last 4 inches. I threw her ass in my pickup after finding out where this kid lives. Turned out he was 4 houses down a windy road we all lived on. I pulled into the driveway, with daughter behind me and requested to come inside the home and speak with the parents. At this point I see the boy for the first time and his dad. Mother is bright eyed and bushy tailed. I proceed to let this man know whats going on, and his son starts to cry, then tries to climb into the literal closet through the door, he was terrified. Im 6'3 240, tatted, infantry veteran but I try not to use that. I want civil agreements with my neighbors, duh.
This dad starts to buckle and the boys in tears in the close with the door half cocked. The grandparents are at the dinner table, and Im still at the door inside the house. The mother starts thanking me for coming over and that her boy needs this!! She takes over and demands he come out of the closet and shake my hand. I shook that little mans hand as hes literally quivering thinking Im there to hurt him, his dad, everyone. I walked the little off a cliff and asked him why he was doing this my daugher.
TRUTH COMES OUT - Little man says hes being bullied by this other kid thats 2 grades above them and he lives across the street. I beat the shit out of that kids door because the dad and I are friends. The kid saw me and my daughter. His dad is a solid man, a bricklayer thats never around. I knockerd on the windows and made my presence known. The next day on the bus, that older kid was sitting alone in the back and the little kid that bullied my daughter was FIRED UP near the front. He was no longer a victim, I had his back when his own dad didnt.
Moral of the story is invesitigate and get involved. Sometimes you can be the game changer sometimes you just fix minor problems, either way you're getting shit done.
Based AF. Thank you for actually making a difference in the world.
Come investigating around my house though an you'll end up FAFO. Be careful who you go around pumping your chest out to.
BTW, I commend the shit out of you doing this in your particular situation. My wife and I unfortunately never were able to have kids, so I don't entirely understand the emotional effects that you were feeling, but I certainly have empathy.
In the end, I'm just saying, if some weirdo came on my private property and started hassling me I'd see that as a threat to my life. It's pretty strange the actions you're describing. No sane person would do what you did, if true.
He knocked on the front door, and has a neighborly relationship with the involved families.
There is a lot more to this story but Ill let the internet be the internet. That little boy ended up apologizing to me with his dad. These people are hilarious.
Some raged out dude comes pounding on my front door trying to break it down while my kids are in the house, especially if he's after my kid.. and he's getting a clip to the chest.
Well, they are friends, if you read the whole thing... I ain't lead-in' my friend regardless if he pounds on my door, we'll still have a chat lol
So to summarize- you let the actual bully off the hook because you believed his lie and then went on to bully some another kid that had nothing to do with your daughter 🤦♂️
Should have just started wailing on his face as soon as he had him in a headlock
That's why my kid does jujitsu. Kid has spunk, but he also needs a few submissions in his pocket.
Jiu jitsu. Let’s think that through for a sec. Getting down on the ground so the bully’s friends can kick you in the head.
Learn enough to get yourself out of a headlock or not let someone grab you so they can slam you down, otherwise learn to quickly channel rage and throw overwhelming punches and kicks. Most of the time fights only last a few seconds and the one who can whip up the fury first will win.
Jiujitsu is perfect for one on one which is most fights but yeah if it is mob attacking best to stay on feet and run if possible. If not you have to dance around the mob and strike individually as best you can take a guy out one at time. Best to have one core competency like BJJ and add kickboxking or Hand to hand combat to it.
I guess, if you are going to get to ignore the situation in the video and go with an imaginary one...
My son has several classmates that do jujitsu with him...they'd probably jump right in.
Kick boxing and wrestling is the only real answer.
Wrestling and Muay Thai.
Perhaps some boxing but careful as that is technique all based on rules, you don't want that muscle memory.
Savate for kids with reinforced polymer shoes until you turn 21. Carry after that for the rest of your life. Real life in a nutshell.
don't forget elbows/knees
BJJ is great, but ground game needs standing game as well. However, having some training is better than having no training. Aggression is certainly important in a fight, but you likely don't have any training, and only understanding aggressive no training versus no aggressive no training.
Get him into wrestling and he'll never have a problem
According to my kids elementary school, this isn't bullying. Bullying is a prolonged or repeated abuse of power, not of your child. They did nothing to help.my daughter because "we never heard her tell them to stop, so we thought it was fun teasing" then she threatened to defend herself after an hour of being bullied, and that was a problem.
We just decided to start homeschooling. Like in that conference, in that moment, I was fucking done.
I got in a fight with a kid who was picking on a friend of mine when I was little. Wasn't anything serious, just a few punches was all. When the principal called my dad and told him what happened my dad told the principal that I was right to help my friend. The principal told me that I had a very understanding dad.
I don't remember what kind of trouble I got into at school, must not have been much, but I didn't get in any trouble at home. In fact I think my dad was kinda proud that I had stood up to a bully.
Fast forward to now, my son got into a scuffle defending himself and I got a call from the vice principal. I said if my son was just defending himself I didn't see any problem. They were dumbfounded and angry that I approved of self defense.
They're conditioning our kids to be bullied and not to stand up for themselves. Our schools are indoctrination centers now, not places for learning what they should to be independent free thinking adults.
Schools teach socialism early with the whole "bring for the class by xyz items". Even in elementary school I was, 'this ain't right?'. And this was LONG ago. It's a slow march.
Man when I was in HS i accidentally bumped into the senior linebacker in the Locker room while getting changed. He punched me on the shoulder and I punched him on his shoulder. Now I’m only like 5’7” and the guy was like 6’5”+ after hitting each other like 5 times and and both of having bruises on our arms he goes “you’re all right”. But man like time stopped and all the kids were just watching us taking turns punching each others arms as hard as we could. Main point is: somebody messes with you, have some respect and hit them twice as hard.
TFW you hit Jamal twice as hard and 5 of his friends decide it’s time to step on and help him maim you for life.
and then get a parade with the mayor down Broadway and $3mm
If youre under 6 foot then youre not a real man
LOL the black pill of death
I think it's way more badass getting into fights that you don't know you can win. Props to that kid.
I faced off 9 guys to save my two friends, I didn't "win", but I still won.
Dive into the fray with fury.
A long, long time ago I was the new kid at middle school and the target for the bully on my bus. He was sitting 2 seats back and had a baseball in his hand that he would hit me on the head with by leaning and reaching over the seat behind me. He would wait until I was facing forward to strike and since he was the bully, none of the other kids would intervene. I pled for him to stop, but to no avail. This went on for about 20 minutes and I kept my temper while I worked out my options. Then the bus arrived at school and as the kids all got up to file out, I stood in place and waited for him to saunter past with a smirk on his face which I removed deftly with my metal lunchbox.
Halfway through homeroom, I was called to the principles office and was made to give an account which I did. Including the part where he had repeatedly assaulted me first. I was free to go. NO ONE EVER dared challenge me again.
The bully was probably on the wrestling team.
My dad and my coaches were that way. Without honor, you’re not a man.
I was bullied in junior high, and when it became clear that the school wouldn’t do anything about it, my Dad instructed me “Next time that little prick starts something, you finish it.” One day the bully shoves me in the hallway, so I turned around and hockey-checked the little cocksucker into the opposite wall. He ended up flat on his back wondering what the hell just happened, I dropped my backpack, squared up and said “Want some more, faggot?” Well, he didn’t. I got suspended, my Dad came in and told the vice-principal who suspended me to fuck himself, and the bully never entered my personal space again.
This is my experience. Competitive wrestlers are some of the most self-disciplined people on the planet.
It’s pretty obvious that someone who actually wrestles can do some serious damage to a normie if they want to. You learn how to get a hold of someone who is really good at not letting you get a hold of them and then you put that person on the ground hard.
Using that outside of the ring is crazy dangerous stuff.
The other thing is that if you compete even a little bit, you win some and you lose some. You never know when you find a guy who's better or it's just not your day. It's not a recipe for recklessly getting into things. There's also something educational about feeling the strength other men have, it's sobering. There are dudes out there that are made out of steel and hydraulic fluid, even as teenagers. People don't know until you bump into one of these dudes and they just ... they don't go down, it's like being in a room with a terminator.
PII here, wrestled. Absolute truth you speak. I was mediocre, and I am still salty as fuck as I could have been better; basically absent/negative parents, bad diet, fat, and coaches that only trained us for conditioning (30 minutes strength training a week, ayfs??). Oh well, that's just how the cookie crumbles, young and naive.
So back to the point, made regionals, went against all 3 top ranked and a future state champ. Swear they were on steroids, fucking rocks.
BUT, however the bad, wrestling has been a lifelong core benefit for me, physically and mentally. There is no other sport more demanding, football was a joke! As I got older I corrected my failures. It makes you determined.
For anyone that cares, check out the 80's movie Vision Quest and strength training programs by Mark Rippetoe.
Very well said
Sounds like you had a good coach.
As a former wrestling coach I'll add a couple of things here. I agree he appears to have some wrestling background. However, if he is on a team, his coach is a piece of garbage. My wrestlers would NEVER have treated another students like this. Not because our wrestlers feared us, athletes shouldn't fear their coaches. But because we spent a significant amount of time in our wrestling room learning about discipline and honor. We did not coach pussies, most of the guys who left our program were the football players and hockey players who already thought they were tough. We coached winners, honorable winners. 7 years district champs while I was with the team. That bully is a disgrace, and the kid that stepped up has big balls. In that situation, the point is made, even if he got stomped, although, I would have preferred he had won.
It's hard for me to picture an actual wrestler punching a smaller guy in the back of the head like that. If he's a wrestler, agree with others here that it's a disgrace.
I can't believe it either. I also doubt that kid is a wrestler. Jesus fucking Christ, weight class is a huge part of it. No wrestler punches down.
Possibly. But with UFC/MMA being as big as it is and with all the fight videos on the internet, slamming dudes head first on hard tile/ pavement/concrete is just how kids fight now. It’s crazy to me how common it is to see dudes just defaulting to slamming someone on their head and then full on soccer kicking their face once they knock their opponent out.
Lesson here is when the shtf, the authorities, the cops, the guardians are too little too late. Kid should have been grabbed, tossed and suspended within seconds.
The kid missed his chance to whack him in the head with his water bottle. Would have ended right there.
Beats getting body slammed. Proper punishment should be 3 hits to the face at least, 2 body slams, and a broken arm/back so he can’t body slam anything for awhile.
could of used his fist like a man
There is weapons everywhere. Pick up a chair, lunch tray. The 2 of them should have pounded his ass.
A fookin. Pencil.
I remember sitting in the lunch room in high school one morning and my friends were dicking around — one friend slapped another one of my friends, then the friend who got slapped stabbed the slapper in the hand with a mechanical pencil in just the right spot, right in a vein. Hand started bleeding fuckin’ everywhere and the bleeder tried to play it off like nothing happened but quietly panicked while hiding his bleeding hand inside of a math textbook. Just tried to sit there and chill until classes started. Totally ruined the textbook lol. We were like “uhhhhh, dude you might want to go take care of that.”
As a dad of young kids, if any bully does this to my kid…. He better hope his parents have good health insurance.
I won’t be able to resist not completely destroying a little shit head who tries to do this to my kids. I will fuck them up lol.
Should of sucker punched the bully with a 2x lunch tray and followed by kick to balls
Somebody needs to teach the White kids how to fight again.
The kid who took 4 punches to the head and did not move or fall over should start MMA.
When that kid grows up - https://youtu.be/B3lsJmwNO40
When I was in Grade school, I was thee kid that got targeted. In High School, I bullied the bullies. After High School, I became an opportunistic Vigilante with a bit less than 20 people in Prison or Jail. A Martial Arts background, 11 years in indy Pro Wrestling, and an anger issue works in my favor.
Rorschach is a favorite character of mine, along with The Punisher, Boondock Saints, Defendor, and various other Anti-Heroes.
Well, he tried.
Was hoping to see the victim help his hero out. Maybe one of those heat of the moment things but that was a bummer.
Bully has no Dad at home or Dad at home does this to him. Either way you can fix a bully with a group after school.
Just remember what happened to Kramer after karate class.
It should be legal and actively encouraged for the first adult male on the scene to stomp the shit out of the aggressor in that situation.
Kid you had a metal water bottle in your hand and you grabbed him.. Big mistake.
Hard to hear from the monkeys in the background.
I went to a school in Florida, called MAGNET school because it offered special classes and I used a school voucher to to go there. They had 0 tolerance policy, you fight, you're expelled. They never had fights in that school. I moved to PA in 11th grade, first day of PE fight goes down in the gym. Why don't all schools do the 0 tolerance policy?
Because they are Democrats in Democrat areas. Democrat lefty administrators. Plus, that filthy little a-hole that started the whole thing will have parents that will sue the school system.
was the bully wearing jake paul merch? lololol
Suckered punching like that... did little damage. What a pussy with that bass pro shop hat.
Homeschool your children. Government "schools" just can't seem to get rid of degenerates such as this out of the school system. Reject them from society, they are not welcome.
Cancel compulsory govt. education.
The friends a hero in my book, he wasn't having that shit, and stood up likely knowing the bully had the advantage. He still hooked the kid in the face after getting slammed. Ide be proud if he were my kid.