we have to start blaming the new coal fired power stations China and
India are building at a a rate of 2 power stations per week...(ie) 104 per year. Start calling out their stupidity.
Prosperous by taking tax payer money to buy junk food, free daycare, free school food, free medical, and rent subsidized...then yes. Plus training the 7 Rugrats to do the same. Thus, proliferating thier prosperity via someone else's work.
Must be why Mississippi is known as hospitality state. 😉
Grew up in MS. The flat delta land was basically tornado alley, and the only thing there were trailer parks (probably because of the insurance). Of course they got blown away constantly, yet people still lived there.
Me too I prefer hurricanes as well. I was in Atlanta when the tornado went through the city and ripped off the roof the Georgia dome. A tornado literally sounds like a massive steam engine
I happened to be driving really stoned home from a friends after a concert and the road between my house and my friends house was about 7 mins. My friend said a tornado was coming after he got a phone call and I was like whatever stop lying and got in my truck and drove directly into the path of the tornado. About two mins from my apartment it begun to hail and my truck was shaking and the resistance against the wind was insane. I parked my truck and then the sound of a steam engine was growing louder and louder. I had a basement apartment and I ran inside as lighting, hail and massive winds barreled down. The path of the direct impact was less than a half a mile down the street and the roof of the adjacent building to my apartment was blown off and there were broken trees all around. The next day I drove around and witnessed the destruction and realized just how stupid I was for driving home. It was the first time Atlanta took a direct hit from a tornado in like 100 years.
yeah i kind of remember that. I was in one in the early 90's in the Athens area. Tornado touched down in the parking lot of a shopping center where i was working. saw the hail, rain and all that shit too. Luckily it was not a very strong or long lasting one but it did do damage to some cars and roofs of businesses. Its not the only one i have been a part of it but it was the absolute closest i have ever been to one
The worst hurricane i ever experienced was Hugo. That one was terrible and i was not even directly impacted (except afterwards) because we went on that hell of an evacuation from the coast where traffic was only going like 20mph most of the damn way back towards more central SC/GA
The difference is that you will get that snow every single year, multiple times a year. With a tornado (or even a hurricane) you may likely NEVER be impacted by one, even living in Alabama, Texas or Mississippi. They really are pretty rare where you get this outcome
I lived in Biloxi, MS for eight years and Palm Bay, FL for almost 19 years. In 2005 alone we had five hurricanes impact Brevard County, FL. In the 27 years I had to evacuate at least 40 times and have had three structures completely destroyed.
I also lived in Grand Forks, ND for two years and saw snow that came in October and didn't completely leave until June.
I hate snow, hurricanes, and tornadoes. The USAF stationed me in all these places in my career. The only place I was stationed that didn't have weather that could be devastating was Torrejon AB, Spain.
Me too bud. Hurricanes are the biggest risk for me now but it takes two specific paths for them to seriously impact me. Had 3 in last 5 years that followed these paths. None in previous 10.
What if I told you that selling more ice cream leads to an increase in shark attacks? Statistics will certainly bear this correlation out time and again, but we must always keep in mind the catchphrase of true scientists, which is, “Correlation rarely implies direct causation.”
In simpler terms, just because two events happen at or around the same time, it doesn’t mean that one caused the other.
Going back to my ice cream/shark attack example, what we’re missing here is what’s called a controlling variable, that is, some other linked factor which would better account for why these two otherwise unrelated activities increase in sync. The answer is obvious: warmer weather. As the weather gets warmer and the season moves into summer, people tend to buy more ice cream. People also spend more time at the beach, including getting into the water where — in what I’m sure is a shock to absolutely no one — shark attacks tend to happen, and will happen increasingly when there are more potential[1] targets.
Now, you’re probably thinking, well, that’s all well and good for beachgoers and ice cream sellers, but what does that have to do with what I said? Well, your statement implies that trailer parks attract tornadoes. Again, much like with the sharks, the statistics certainly show a strong correlation, but is there causation? The answer is, of course, no. We must make sure that we account for as many controlling variables as we possibly can before we can truly declare causation.
For example, how many trailer parks exist in places outside of tornado-prone areas? I know Arizona, for example, isn’t exactly known for even a high amount of rainfall, never mind tornadoes, but they do have trailer parks. How many of those parks are blown away every year by tornadoes either spontaneously forming nearby or otherwise going out of their way to hit these places? What about trailer parks in other areas? Are you aware of such places in Maine? Wisconsin? Alaska? What about the composition of trailers and mobile homes? They’re not exactly bunkers, either in the sense of their construction in general or in their weight, so how would they fare in the 100-200+ mph winds one would see in even a median-strength tornado? What about where tornadoes themselves tend to frequent? Ask any meteorologist — or even anyone who is enthusiastic about weather in general — and they’ll tell you that tornadoes can happen anywhere at any time, but they do tend to happen with far greater frequency in certain parts of the world and at certain times of the year.
I say all that to say there’s more to this than what you see, and that brings me to my final point. We see events like this getting reported by a heavily biased media time and again, and in our all-too-human brains, we compile it all together and go, “This must be how it is.” But it’s not. We’re suffering from a drug that I would argue is even worse than fentanyl, and that is the drug of confirmation bias. It is, unfortunately, what caused a number of people to fall prey to the mass formation psychosis event we just witnessed: we were constantly told people were dying from a cold virus, and when someone died from causes that were obscured from us (ventilators used on healthy lungs, Remdesivir destroying kidneys), the brains of the sheeple, in the absence of the knowledge of those controlling variables, made a connection between the two events where none existed…at least, not for the reason they thought, at any rate.
The bottom line here is that we, as people who are sadly (and by design) losing our ability to critically think, need to remain vigilant against the dangers of confirmation bias. We must always question even so-called “common knowledge,” not to be subversive, as I am a huge proponent of Chesterton’s fence, but to make sure that we are not leading ourselves astray.
I’m sure your statement was meant to be humorous, and I’m sorry if I stepped all over your joke. I just figured this was a good teachable moment, and your comment made the perfect launching point…so, thanks! 😊
[1] I wanted to make it clear that I in no way wished to imply that sharks go out of their way to attack people or otherwise choose their victims, human or otherwise. They are merely animals, and as such act solely on instinct, not malice.
Y’know, the trouble with me, I don’t get no respect from anybody! I remember one time I was getting arrested for jaywalking. The crowd that had gathered started shouting, “Don’t take him alive!”
I spent a decade in Bama. Had a hurricane blow a full sized tree onto my Mach 1. It barely missed my house. Now I want to move back South away from this leftist hellhole. Maybe TX, MO, AR but whatever house I buy or build I'm going to have a full concrete master bedroom, ceiling too.
I just moved to Tennessee two months ago to escape the leftist hell hole that had become the place I grew up in. The thing about tornadoes and hurricanes... They might destroy your community, but in time, you can actually recover. Leftism though, has no recovery. It just gets worse and worse and worse, and when you think it can't get worse, it finds a way to get worse still.
Tornadoes will tear through that brick like its nothing unless it was designed in layers purpose built to withstand them.. Common design for large datacenters in the Midwest.
I can guarantee you that the black folks in the Delta are nothing like the street rats of Chicago, D voters or not. I’ve hung out in various towns throughout the Mississippi Delta numerous times, and have never experienced anything but respect and/or kindness from its population.
I won’t be shocked one bit if POTATOUS doesn’t visit or send funding.
I live in the north in a blue state and yearn to escape to a place that isn't so poorly run and falling apart... but between horrors like this and the bugs, I gain new courage to fight behind enemy lines.
I don't really know why, but growing up in South Jersey, we were constantly living with a multitude of black flies. But they don't seem to exist in Florida where I have been living for a long time. Plus, I think the odds of having violent crime perpetrated against you or your family is higher than getting hurt by a tornado, or in my case, a hurricane. But, I applaud your fighting in a blue area. I probably have it much easier in the Florida area I reside.
That's cool. I had a sibling who went to Woodstown High. Played football against Audubon I guess, but depending on the year...the sibling graduated high in '77 and I graduated in '87 but went to a private high school. I played football for a couple of years, but I don't recall Audubon. But then again, I don't remember a whole lot from back then...
come on down. Its not as bad as you think. The biggest thing in the south is the heat and humidity depending on where you are at. In terms of bugs, they are just as bad up north, and sometimes worse, than the south. Tornados are generally pretty rare.
If you do decide to come on down let me spell out the positives
better politicians and better ran states typically (and red)
pro 2a
super gorgeous women
better weather year round with none of that crazy ass cold as hell bullshit
Food is awesome. Southern food (or soul food if you are black) is just better here.
Just stay away from the bigger cities like atlanta, charlotte, austin, etc
I'm in Shitlinois. I love my beautiful properties, my home, and my shop. If I could pick it all up and take it, I would.
We've lived in the midwest all of our lives. We've been all over KY, TN, MO, and AR recently and have spent a lot of time trying to find a place to move to. There are a lot of oddities down there, from construction techniques to paying taxes or buying liquor. Then there's environmental factors like clay everywhere and gross critters.
If, I could get over these oddities. My next hurdle would be the social aspect of Southern living. I've met a lot of very nice people down there, but they don't seem as nice as people in the midwest. I kid that it's because of the lack of taverns/supper clubs down there. I don't know what we're going to do, but I'm getting anxious to get moving. SW Wisconsin would be great, but it's a tight market.
You rebuild. I live in the scar of an EF3 from 2011. Houses are rebuilt and everything looks normal, except for a 1000yd wide path of no big trees leading off to the northeast. Makes every windy spring day kind of anxious.
I drove on the interstate through Moore, OK about 6 months after their massive tornado. I think one of the strongest ever recorded. They had cleared the rubble and trash. Very stark contrast with the buildings that survived. As if there was a spot that trees never lived and no one ever improved.
We went through earthquakes in the west and hurricanes in the south, but tornados are another animal all together. (Earthquakes did less damage and were less frequent, btw.)
I lived in the scar of an EF5. There were still building foundations, mostly businesses, up to about 5ish years out because they never got rebuilt. All the houses got rebuilt quickly. By about 6ish years there was no longer any sign that anything had ever happened.
Well....MOST of the time, brick structures and big buildings reinforced with a lot of block and steel(hospitals, schools) will fare pretty good, minus losing the roof and windows. You could probably design a house to have special low roof angles and thick reinforced walls that can withstand anything under 250mph, but it would cost a fortune and in my opinion isn't practical. Plus you'd have to think, it's not just the vortex you're building to withstand, it's any large tree or vehicle nearby that may get thrown into the wall. I don't know of anything short of steel I-beams that can withstand that.
I have formed, tied rebar and poured concrete floors, walls and ceilings. If it's your property you can act as contractor and farm out most of the work. It's a little spendy depending on the area but if it's just the bedroom section you'd all sleep better at night during the season.
An EF5? No, not realistically. Sure, given enough money and engineering you could do it, but no, not really. An EF5 can literally strip feet of top soil and suck the entire concrete foundation or basement out of the ground- it’s complete devastation.
No. The only thing that survived the path of a local EF5, the most powerful, tornado was a bank vault. No one is going to build an entire house like a bank vault. It would cost $10+ million or have to be entirely underground.
Yeah, but the houses don't survive. They don't have the entire house underground.
Everyone in the midwest has a concrete basement. Even trailer parks have underground storm shelters. But they don't build a 2,500+ sqft 2 story family home entirely underground.
Bet it would be real quiet inside such a house. Bet it would also be good at keeping gun thieves (not necessarily from the government but not not from the government neither) away.
Re signal, I have a metal sided house that near completely blocks out all outside cell and radio signal. We put up a cell phone signal booster on the ruf, aimed it at the closest tower, wired it up to a wifi-lookin’ thing indoors, and presto, five bars indoors all the time.
Depends on the town/area. Town northwest of me got whacked by not one, but two EF4s on the same day. Obliterated pretty much everything. Only about half the residents stayed to rebuild what was an already small town (few hundred).
Just think,
EVERYONE of those cars and trucks would be on fire and turned into a large TOXIC CLOUD of nickel and lithium gas compounds if they were all elecTRICK vehicles.
I drove through this area a few years ago while on the Blues Highway 61. Muddy Waters house was there. Just south of Rolling Fork is Onward, where Teddy Roosevelt refused to shoot a tied up bear after an unsuccessful bear hunt, leading to the creation of the Teddy bear. It's very rural with poorly constructed tin roof shacks. I don't see how anyone could survive this devastation.
Demographics.....
The median income for a household in the city was $23,081, and the median income for a family was $24,911. Males had a median income of $25,729 versus $17,065 for females. The per capita income for the city was $11,481. About 30.6% of families and 37.1% of the population were below the poverty line, including 50.0% of those under age 18 and 24.6% of those age 65 or over.
This is genuinely so sad and devastating. We can get so numbed out by the garbage going on around us and forget that we are all fragile human beings. My heart breaks for these folks. I pray that America will do what it does best and help these lost souls get their lives back together.
Anyone consider why this storm was so sudden and severe? Weather mod? Particulate density in the atmosphere following the East Palestine fire?
I looked at a radar of the cells over MS and the Atlantic ocean during the storm and it appeared as if the storm over the ocean was feeding a line of moisture into the gulf and right into the MS storm cell.
You can see remnants of both of those cells still right now 03252023-0849PST on weather radar of your choice. Accuweather still shows both cells clearly and the line of moisture linking them dissipating.
If you look at the demographic it is majority black, supposely has zero Hispanic population, small white population, very small native american Indian population. Large % of war veterans for the small population vs the overall USA.
Is there any significant industry there? Was it just an early spring tornado or something more sinister?
It's tornado alley. Yazoo City got blitzed about ten to fifteen years ago. It's farm country. The white folks who live there are farmers and old folks, grocery store and hospital staff. There's a bunch of crackheads who can't keep jobs all across the delta. Hunters cycle through. Kids don't tend to stick around. Who knows what the black folks do. The two communities are pretty much self segregated.
Pray for US patriots going through these disasters, even if you don’t believe in God please send positive thoughts and caring for our fellow patriots who lost everything……don’t worry about the commies, they deserve it
Donate to local communities churches. If you live nearby offer shelter if you can. Drive out there and bring blankets or other home goods to shelters or churches. Even feed homeless animals as many owners will have misplaced them.
I say even help the commies and those unaligned. This is a disaster. Be men and women of compassion. Help those in need no matter. Be the better person and live by example.
Wow, damage looks pretty horrendous!! I was in a Tornado in 2914 that tore up Arkansas, was really hard to explain how devastating it was, Obama even came, I watched the Kenyans helicopter land......Sorry to everyone who lost someone, May God be with you, sorry to those that lost homes/belongings, you'll make it back!!.......Anyone know the best way to donate to this disaster?
There were a bunch of trailers, but there are also a bunch of houses in the proper town area that have been there for 60+ years. They're gone now. Rolling Fork is the crossroads of two small highways in the MS Delta, so yes, they have paved roads. It was a small town, but it isnt there anymore. Really heartbreaking.
Sorry Mississippi, all your disaster relief funds have been shipped to ukraine
And to bail out the Silicon Valley rich
And 10% for the big guy
“Tornadoes are caused by Huwite supremacy” - MSNBC
Tornadoes are caused by Climate Change you dumbass.
Now give Leonardo DiCaprio more money for a new yacht and stop complaining.
global warming is caused by White supremacy
Stop calling it global warming! We have to call it "climate change" now because of all the blizzards and shit
You just made me realize they did change the name!
buncha bullshit either way, but they are calling it climate change now
we have to start blaming the new coal fired power stations China and India are building at a a rate of 2 power stations per week...(ie) 104 per year. Start calling out their stupidity.
How dare you!
10% of that is a WHOLE LOT of ice cream
*Mumblefuck says, "Chocka Chocka Chip."
...to pay Ukraine pensions.
To pay for the welfare for their chronically unemployed blacks
Brett Farve spent all that already.
BarronVonSaltzburg, my nickname is Juergon Von Longpeen. Pleasure.
Mine is Shorty. Pleasure.
Came here to say this.
and we need to make sure Pakistan has a pathway for Muslim Trans Children
Are they liberal enough for Potatus to visit?
74% black.. yep
Hold on, did they actually vote for Biden? We can’t really say they’re black until we know this.
Well if they are alive then they most likely didn’t.
is Biden manufacturing natural disasters to gain more dead voters for 2024?
Yes that area is democratic area and growing. That entire area on upper left side down to the capital area is democrat.
Pretty much. Benny Thompson's entire gerrymandered district is deep blue.
And it's growing?? Like growing because babymammas are having 7 keeeids or growing because it's actually prosperous.
Prosperous by taking tax payer money to buy junk food, free daycare, free school food, free medical, and rent subsidized...then yes. Plus training the 7 Rugrats to do the same. Thus, proliferating thier prosperity via someone else's work.
Must be why Mississippi is known as hospitality state. 😉
It's Mississippi, during the Biden regime. It's the former.
On paper.
At 74% I see an exception to the rule.
Too black. Secret Service won't let him go near there.
In that case are we even sure they were hit by a tornado? This could have just been some peaceful demonstrating
So THATS why the place looks like that...
This is Bennie Thompson's district! The guy running the January 6 sham investigation.
Biden will visit here before East Palestine. Boy oh boy! Wait til that shit hits the fan.
Ironic. Majority of reddit is glad this happened to those dirty Trump supporters for not believing in muh climate change.
Then plenty of printed money will come his way...
Red State
Born in the Delta, can confirm.
At minimum we aught to here the obligatory Climate change at it again and queue minorities hardest hit
Right? Ugh, it’s so tiresome at this point.
Don't think they have the proper black to trannie ratio to warrant a potatus visit
Tornados are no fucking joke.
Grew up in MS. The flat delta land was basically tornado alley, and the only thing there were trailer parks (probably because of the insurance). Of course they got blown away constantly, yet people still lived there.
well i live in an area that is prone to hurricanes. i get it, i really do, but i will take a hurricane over a tornado any day. Been through both
I got hit by a tornado in a hurricane.
it happens but i still prefer hurricanes to pure tornadoes. those that occur during hurricanes are usually not as strong as ones like this
Same... All the big ones have em
My state just has wind and cold, not tornados.
Wind's howling....
Me too I prefer hurricanes as well. I was in Atlanta when the tornado went through the city and ripped off the roof the Georgia dome. A tornado literally sounds like a massive steam engine
yeah. once you hear one you will never forget that sound
I happened to be driving really stoned home from a friends after a concert and the road between my house and my friends house was about 7 mins. My friend said a tornado was coming after he got a phone call and I was like whatever stop lying and got in my truck and drove directly into the path of the tornado. About two mins from my apartment it begun to hail and my truck was shaking and the resistance against the wind was insane. I parked my truck and then the sound of a steam engine was growing louder and louder. I had a basement apartment and I ran inside as lighting, hail and massive winds barreled down. The path of the direct impact was less than a half a mile down the street and the roof of the adjacent building to my apartment was blown off and there were broken trees all around. The next day I drove around and witnessed the destruction and realized just how stupid I was for driving home. It was the first time Atlanta took a direct hit from a tornado in like 100 years.
yeah i kind of remember that. I was in one in the early 90's in the Athens area. Tornado touched down in the parking lot of a shopping center where i was working. saw the hail, rain and all that shit too. Luckily it was not a very strong or long lasting one but it did do damage to some cars and roofs of businesses. Its not the only one i have been a part of it but it was the absolute closest i have ever been to one
The worst hurricane i ever experienced was Hugo. That one was terrible and i was not even directly impacted (except afterwards) because we went on that hell of an evacuation from the coast where traffic was only going like 20mph most of the damn way back towards more central SC/GA
I used to complain about living in cold Michigan but I'll take a foot of snow over this horror.
The difference is that you will get that snow every single year, multiple times a year. With a tornado (or even a hurricane) you may likely NEVER be impacted by one, even living in Alabama, Texas or Mississippi. They really are pretty rare where you get this outcome
I lived in Biloxi, MS for eight years and Palm Bay, FL for almost 19 years. In 2005 alone we had five hurricanes impact Brevard County, FL. In the 27 years I had to evacuate at least 40 times and have had three structures completely destroyed.
I also lived in Grand Forks, ND for two years and saw snow that came in October and didn't completely leave until June.
I hate snow, hurricanes, and tornadoes. The USAF stationed me in all these places in my career. The only place I was stationed that didn't have weather that could be devastating was Torrejon AB, Spain.
Me too bud. Hurricanes are the biggest risk for me now but it takes two specific paths for them to seriously impact me. Had 3 in last 5 years that followed these paths. None in previous 10.
It's crazy how trailer parks tend to attract tornados
Your statement brings up an interesting lesson.
What if I told you that selling more ice cream leads to an increase in shark attacks? Statistics will certainly bear this correlation out time and again, but we must always keep in mind the catchphrase of true scientists, which is, “Correlation rarely implies direct causation.”
In simpler terms, just because two events happen at or around the same time, it doesn’t mean that one caused the other.
Going back to my ice cream/shark attack example, what we’re missing here is what’s called a controlling variable, that is, some other linked factor which would better account for why these two otherwise unrelated activities increase in sync. The answer is obvious: warmer weather. As the weather gets warmer and the season moves into summer, people tend to buy more ice cream. People also spend more time at the beach, including getting into the water where — in what I’m sure is a shock to absolutely no one — shark attacks tend to happen, and will happen increasingly when there are more potential[1] targets.
Now, you’re probably thinking, well, that’s all well and good for beachgoers and ice cream sellers, but what does that have to do with what I said? Well, your statement implies that trailer parks attract tornadoes. Again, much like with the sharks, the statistics certainly show a strong correlation, but is there causation? The answer is, of course, no. We must make sure that we account for as many controlling variables as we possibly can before we can truly declare causation.
For example, how many trailer parks exist in places outside of tornado-prone areas? I know Arizona, for example, isn’t exactly known for even a high amount of rainfall, never mind tornadoes, but they do have trailer parks. How many of those parks are blown away every year by tornadoes either spontaneously forming nearby or otherwise going out of their way to hit these places? What about trailer parks in other areas? Are you aware of such places in Maine? Wisconsin? Alaska? What about the composition of trailers and mobile homes? They’re not exactly bunkers, either in the sense of their construction in general or in their weight, so how would they fare in the 100-200+ mph winds one would see in even a median-strength tornado? What about where tornadoes themselves tend to frequent? Ask any meteorologist — or even anyone who is enthusiastic about weather in general — and they’ll tell you that tornadoes can happen anywhere at any time, but they do tend to happen with far greater frequency in certain parts of the world and at certain times of the year.
I say all that to say there’s more to this than what you see, and that brings me to my final point. We see events like this getting reported by a heavily biased media time and again, and in our all-too-human brains, we compile it all together and go, “This must be how it is.” But it’s not. We’re suffering from a drug that I would argue is even worse than fentanyl, and that is the drug of confirmation bias. It is, unfortunately, what caused a number of people to fall prey to the mass formation psychosis event we just witnessed: we were constantly told people were dying from a cold virus, and when someone died from causes that were obscured from us (ventilators used on healthy lungs, Remdesivir destroying kidneys), the brains of the sheeple, in the absence of the knowledge of those controlling variables, made a connection between the two events where none existed…at least, not for the reason they thought, at any rate.
The bottom line here is that we, as people who are sadly (and by design) losing our ability to critically think, need to remain vigilant against the dangers of confirmation bias. We must always question even so-called “common knowledge,” not to be subversive, as I am a huge proponent of Chesterton’s fence, but to make sure that we are not leading ourselves astray.
I’m sure your statement was meant to be humorous, and I’m sorry if I stepped all over your joke. I just figured this was a good teachable moment, and your comment made the perfect launching point…so, thanks! 😊
[1] I wanted to make it clear that I in no way wished to imply that sharks go out of their way to attack people or otherwise choose their victims, human or otherwise. They are merely animals, and as such act solely on instinct, not malice.
Lay off the Adderall bro
There is another reason. God controls the weather and God doesn't like trailers.
Bears repeating, over and over and over again. Especially on this forum!
Hey, you’re all right!
Y’know, the trouble with me, I don’t get no respect from anybody! I remember one time I was getting arrested for jaywalking. The crowd that had gathered started shouting, “Don’t take him alive!”
Trailers are actually 'tornado detectors'. The mildest tornado EF0 will affect a trailer park, hence its presence is confirmed.
Agree, the South is known as "Dixie Alley" with regards to tornadoes. https://infogalactic.com/info/Dixie_Alley
I spent a decade in Bama. Had a hurricane blow a full sized tree onto my Mach 1. It barely missed my house. Now I want to move back South away from this leftist hellhole. Maybe TX, MO, AR but whatever house I buy or build I'm going to have a full concrete master bedroom, ceiling too.
I just moved to Tennessee two months ago to escape the leftist hell hole that had become the place I grew up in. The thing about tornadoes and hurricanes... They might destroy your community, but in time, you can actually recover. Leftism though, has no recovery. It just gets worse and worse and worse, and when you think it can't get worse, it finds a way to get worse still.
I'm going to read a lot of anger inducing content on this site this weekend, but nothing makes me more sad than your lost Mach 1.
I shall install some rubber onto my public roads in your honor.
Make sure its rebar'd.
Concrete keeps it cooler too!
Central Texas is probably the best place to live tbh.
You may get a tornado once every few years.
I'm 36 years old and I've been through maybe 4 tornados while living here. About 7 of those years were spent in Oklahoma.
Now in Oklahoma? I got 2 tornados, maybe 3, every year I was there. It's the reason why I'll never live in Oklahoma.
Maybe one day the US will go back to building their buildings with structural brick instead of cheap drywall and plywood
Tornadoes will tear through that brick like its nothing unless it was designed in layers purpose built to withstand them.. Common design for large datacenters in the Midwest.
I dunno, i lived in Mississippi and frequently would wake up to find like half a dozen little twisters had visited in the night
I had that very experience in indiana. Wake up in the morning and the flimsy screen door was off the house.
but less crime and less trash on the street
I can guarantee you that the black folks in the Delta are nothing like the street rats of Chicago, D voters or not. I’ve hung out in various towns throughout the Mississippi Delta numerous times, and have never experienced anything but respect and/or kindness from its population.
I won’t be shocked one bit if POTATOUS doesn’t visit or send funding.
Been there. They go to church. They invite you to dinner and their church service. The church service is an experience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Fork,_Mississippi#Demographics
74% black
It's not a "race" issue, it's a "democrat orchestrated ghetto culture" issue.
Enter Kumala and her shitty remarks about "equity". Never miss an opportunity to racially divide in these folks time of need.
I live in the north in a blue state and yearn to escape to a place that isn't so poorly run and falling apart... but between horrors like this and the bugs, I gain new courage to fight behind enemy lines.
I don't really know why, but growing up in South Jersey, we were constantly living with a multitude of black flies. But they don't seem to exist in Florida where I have been living for a long time. Plus, I think the odds of having violent crime perpetrated against you or your family is higher than getting hurt by a tornado, or in my case, a hurricane. But, I applaud your fighting in a blue area. I probably have it much easier in the Florida area I reside.
Where in South Jersey?
In the vicinity of the booming metropolis (/s) of Woodstown.
We played you guys occasionally in sports ( Audubon)
That's cool. I had a sibling who went to Woodstown High. Played football against Audubon I guess, but depending on the year...the sibling graduated high in '77 and I graduated in '87 but went to a private high school. I played football for a couple of years, but I don't recall Audubon. But then again, I don't remember a whole lot from back then...
Went to high school in Marlton. No natural disasters but Camden is 10 miles away.....
Camden, lol. One big man-made disaster!
come on down. Its not as bad as you think. The biggest thing in the south is the heat and humidity depending on where you are at. In terms of bugs, they are just as bad up north, and sometimes worse, than the south. Tornados are generally pretty rare.
If you do decide to come on down let me spell out the positives
Just stay away from the bigger cities like atlanta, charlotte, austin, etc
Can confirm, grew up outside of Charlotte. Now my hometown is an urban liberal hellhole.
Think what he meant is he knows he's going to get FEMA assistance no matter who is in the White House when he lives in a blue state.
I'm in Shitlinois. I love my beautiful properties, my home, and my shop. If I could pick it all up and take it, I would.
We've lived in the midwest all of our lives. We've been all over KY, TN, MO, and AR recently and have spent a lot of time trying to find a place to move to. There are a lot of oddities down there, from construction techniques to paying taxes or buying liquor. Then there's environmental factors like clay everywhere and gross critters.
If, I could get over these oddities. My next hurdle would be the social aspect of Southern living. I've met a lot of very nice people down there, but they don't seem as nice as people in the midwest. I kid that it's because of the lack of taverns/supper clubs down there. I don't know what we're going to do, but I'm getting anxious to get moving. SW Wisconsin would be great, but it's a tight market.
You can hunt hogs year round though. Think of sitting on the porch rocking chair with your deer rifle next to you.
I do like that idea. I can actually shoot deer from my deck now, but I have a tree stand a few hundred yards away.
I always wonder what these places look like a year or two later. Do they rebuild or all just move on to other areas?
You rebuild. I live in the scar of an EF3 from 2011. Houses are rebuilt and everything looks normal, except for a 1000yd wide path of no big trees leading off to the northeast. Makes every windy spring day kind of anxious.
I drove on the interstate through Moore, OK about 6 months after their massive tornado. I think one of the strongest ever recorded. They had cleared the rubble and trash. Very stark contrast with the buildings that survived. As if there was a spot that trees never lived and no one ever improved.
If you're referring to the 1999 tornado, yes that one had radar recorded windspeeds of 318mph I believe. Simply unbelievable.
We went through earthquakes in the west and hurricanes in the south, but tornados are another animal all together. (Earthquakes did less damage and were less frequent, btw.)
Damn
My friend lived in Moore Oklahoma and her house was destroyed twice in a span of a year due to tornados.
I lived in the scar of an EF5. There were still building foundations, mostly businesses, up to about 5ish years out because they never got rebuilt. All the houses got rebuilt quickly. By about 6ish years there was no longer any sign that anything had ever happened.
Is it possible to build structures that can withstand it? Or just too much money?
Yes, monolithic dome buildings are basically tornado proof
https://kfor.com/news/dome-shaped-buildings-gaining-ground-in-oklahoma-considered-tornado-proof/ https://domtec.com/commercial/ https://www.monolithic.org/homes/featured-homes/monolithic-dome-home-survives-missouri-tornado
Neat! Bigger ones too or just tiny ones like the ones pictured?
Thanks -- you just sent me off to study round houses.
Now if I can make one look more traditional, I might have to start building!
Trad housing.
Well....MOST of the time, brick structures and big buildings reinforced with a lot of block and steel(hospitals, schools) will fare pretty good, minus losing the roof and windows. You could probably design a house to have special low roof angles and thick reinforced walls that can withstand anything under 250mph, but it would cost a fortune and in my opinion isn't practical. Plus you'd have to think, it's not just the vortex you're building to withstand, it's any large tree or vehicle nearby that may get thrown into the wall. I don't know of anything short of steel I-beams that can withstand that.
I have formed, tied rebar and poured concrete floors, walls and ceilings. If it's your property you can act as contractor and farm out most of the work. It's a little spendy depending on the area but if it's just the bedroom section you'd all sleep better at night during the season.
Pretty badass to live in a place where this is a possibility. Hats off.
They do make steel framing for houses, Quonset huts are an example.
https://www.steelmasterusa.com/quonset-huts/disaster-resistant-buildings/ https://www.metalwarehouseinc.com/blog/steel-buildings/heres-why-steel-is-so-reliable-in-disaster-prone-areas/
An EF5? No, not realistically. Sure, given enough money and engineering you could do it, but no, not really. An EF5 can literally strip feet of top soil and suck the entire concrete foundation or basement out of the ground- it’s complete devastation.
Wowzers
No. The only thing that survived the path of a local EF5, the most powerful, tornado was a bank vault. No one is going to build an entire house like a bank vault. It would cost $10+ million or have to be entirely underground.
Unless it's a high water table like Texas people do have full concrete and cinder block basements.
It was strange for me to find out basements were not standard everywhere.
Flip a coin and put earthquakes on one side and tornadoes on the other
*Editing to add that I'm aware modern basements are earthquake safe, but there are many people who still think they aren't
My southern-raised boyfriend was astonished when the first thing he saw walking into my house was the basement stairwell.
Yeah, but the houses don't survive. They don't have the entire house underground.
Everyone in the midwest has a concrete basement. Even trailer parks have underground storm shelters. But they don't build a 2,500+ sqft 2 story family home entirely underground.
Ah, dang.
Possible, yes. More expensive, yes. Cellular and radio signals, no.
Bet it would be real quiet inside such a house. Bet it would also be good at keeping gun thieves (not necessarily from the government but not not from the government neither) away.
Re signal, I have a metal sided house that near completely blocks out all outside cell and radio signal. We put up a cell phone signal booster on the ruf, aimed it at the closest tower, wired it up to a wifi-lookin’ thing indoors, and presto, five bars indoors all the time.
Ever see places that got hiy by cat5 hurricanes? There is some rebuilding but it's never the same
Depends on the town/area. Town northwest of me got whacked by not one, but two EF4s on the same day. Obliterated pretty much everything. Only about half the residents stayed to rebuild what was an already small town (few hundred).
Many don't...
Just think,
EVERYONE of those cars and trucks would be on fire and turned into a large TOXIC CLOUD of nickel and lithium gas compounds if they were all elecTRICK vehicles.
What the fuck. Absolutely horrible I feel for that community. This is a disaster
Trump got rid of regulations to stop Tornados and this is global warmings fault that Trump elevated.
Shit, we need to pay more taxes quick
Quick someone get Greta to say climate control
How DARE you!
Prediction, Biden will finally send some money
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… to Ukraine.
Is this environmental racism and how can esg stop this from happening in the future
Tornadoes be like, "This is MAGA country"
A noose just flew over my house
I drove through this area a few years ago while on the Blues Highway 61. Muddy Waters house was there. Just south of Rolling Fork is Onward, where Teddy Roosevelt refused to shoot a tied up bear after an unsuccessful bear hunt, leading to the creation of the Teddy bear. It's very rural with poorly constructed tin roof shacks. I don't see how anyone could survive this devastation.
Looks like tornadoes are almost as destructive as joggers...
Demographics..... The median income for a household in the city was $23,081, and the median income for a family was $24,911. Males had a median income of $25,729 versus $17,065 for females. The per capita income for the city was $11,481. About 30.6% of families and 37.1% of the population were below the poverty line, including 50.0% of those under age 18 and 24.6% of those age 65 or over.
It's an old poor Delta town. Kids don't tend to stick around farm towns. Things have changed a lot in the past sixty years.
If you can make it there you can make it anywhere
No lie
That’s so incredibly sad, those poor people.
Devastating. It was a massive wedge too. There's other videos of the twister visible in the lightning strikes.
better put a few ukrainians around town, that place will be rebuilt by Blackrock asap.
More video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsq-UO2Slr0
This is genuinely so sad and devastating. We can get so numbed out by the garbage going on around us and forget that we are all fragile human beings. My heart breaks for these folks. I pray that America will do what it does best and help these lost souls get their lives back together.
That's what we used to do best
So tragic. Let's send more money to Ukraine
Anyone consider why this storm was so sudden and severe? Weather mod? Particulate density in the atmosphere following the East Palestine fire?
I looked at a radar of the cells over MS and the Atlantic ocean during the storm and it appeared as if the storm over the ocean was feeding a line of moisture into the gulf and right into the MS storm cell.
You can see remnants of both of those cells still right now 03252023-0849PST on weather radar of your choice. Accuweather still shows both cells clearly and the line of moisture linking them dissipating.
Https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rolling-fork-ms
If you look at the demographic it is majority black, supposely has zero Hispanic population, small white population, very small native american Indian population. Large % of war veterans for the small population vs the overall USA.
Is there any significant industry there? Was it just an early spring tornado or something more sinister?
reading too much into it. This part of the south is very prone to tornados with many being as severe or even more so than this one
It's tornado alley. Yazoo City got blitzed about ten to fifteen years ago. It's farm country. The white folks who live there are farmers and old folks, grocery store and hospital staff. There's a bunch of crackheads who can't keep jobs all across the delta. Hunters cycle through. Kids don't tend to stick around. Who knows what the black folks do. The two communities are pretty much self segregated.
Pray for US patriots going through these disasters, even if you don’t believe in God please send positive thoughts and caring for our fellow patriots who lost everything……don’t worry about the commies, they deserve it
No disrespect to you, but pray for all touched, or it is not a worthy prayer.
Commies aren’t people but I’ll pray that they don’t suffer unneedlessly
:)
And do something if you can.
Donate to local communities churches. If you live nearby offer shelter if you can. Drive out there and bring blankets or other home goods to shelters or churches. Even feed homeless animals as many owners will have misplaced them.
I say even help the commies and those unaligned. This is a disaster. Be men and women of compassion. Help those in need no matter. Be the better person and live by example.
About two and a half minutes in are these stripped trees that look like they were TP'd with sheet metal. and when drone pans across the street, that's all the remains from a lumberyard. street view from 2016: https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9112145,-90.8693101,3a,75y,298.82h,86.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s235Ss023KW5aBg-k2o-Gew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Wow, damage looks pretty horrendous!! I was in a Tornado in 2914 that tore up Arkansas, was really hard to explain how devastating it was, Obama even came, I watched the Kenyans helicopter land......Sorry to everyone who lost someone, May God be with you, sorry to those that lost homes/belongings, you'll make it back!!.......Anyone know the best way to donate to this disaster?
Nothing compared to a nuke and at this rate that's where we are headed.
This was just from a little racism called climate change.
Pater misericors, intercede in filiis tuis. Da eis pacem. In damno consolatur eos. In Dei nomine precamur.
Here's what's left of Rolling Fork:
https://youtu.be/9vQ6S81hgj4
Please pray for the little community there. Lots of old folks and farmers.
That is/was a very small town. Barely a 1/4 mile wide. 🥺
Biden won't go
Nice of the tornado to pile up its trash.
Going to add these folks to my prayers. What terrible thing to have happen.
Wow. Never seen a tornado in real life! That’s insane disaster there.
Not being funny but this is obvs a trailer park area… no paved roads but all dirt /mud roads. Unfortunate, nonetheless
There were a bunch of trailers, but there are also a bunch of houses in the proper town area that have been there for 60+ years. They're gone now. Rolling Fork is the crossroads of two small highways in the MS Delta, so yes, they have paved roads. It was a small town, but it isnt there anymore. Really heartbreaking.
You are talking out your ass.