Just like Obama tried to do when they were so sure Hillary would win. They tried to use net neutrality to control in the same way. Now it’s the same with but with this bs.
I think it's hilarious that they flooded reddit and Twitter with propaganda about Net Neutrality like the Internet would die. All of their talking points didn't materialize after all these years.
There has been strong competition to broadband Internet due to investment in fiber optics and 5G wireless. The cap nonsense disappeared. The only people who get throttled are the abusers that hobby in data archival and mass torrenting. No innovation has been stifled.
Now, if Net Nuetrality had passed, we probably would have seen far more restrictions and government control. Which their censorship and propaganda have already been bad.
I remember talking about this during the days when TD was on Reddit. Man, I would trigger so many lefties when I said NN was a scam to let the gov control your internet, and thus, control the bandwidth you would be allowed to use.
I was met with downvotes and them screaming how NN would save the internet from companies like Comcast.
But when you read the damn thing, you would learn that it would give Comcast MORE control as they would literally be the only provider in town by using NN as a way to ensure only their service was provided, and they would be guaranteed government grants until the foreseeable future.
As soon as NN died, competition rose and with competition, came BETTER service.
Speaking of my area in particular, as soon as NN was dead, Time Warner no longer was the big dog in town. Now we have multiple ISPs and they all offer cheap and reliable service. As soon as Google showed up with fiber, ATT stepped up and offered a cheaper plan at 1gig up/down w/ HBO max thrown in.
If NN was still a thing, I'd be stuck with Time Warner CABLE at 300meg up/down, paying the same bill that I'm paying right now with ATT.
100% would have been restricted. NNwas to make internet a “utility”. Then they made legal, a “center” appointed by the whitehouse. In the whitehouse. That would control who was allowed to have these utility licenses based off the ISP blocking what they were told to block and how. NN would have been the death of the rest of them internet. Fucking Obama gave whatever left to Europe anyway. The fuck.
The uniparty. Every time there is "bipartisan" support for something, anything, you can bet that it will screw over the American people. Alarm bells were going off in my head when I heard all the chatter about "bipartisan" concern over tik tok. And now we know why.
Concise. We are not in a bipartisan-compatible state at this time, it is an imaginary or tiny contingent of patriots vs communism. We are incapable of achieving bipartisan support of something actually good for the people in our current condition.
Not so fast. Rudy Giuliani is out there shilling for this bill too, so the maga wing is also behind it and was a driving force during Trump's presidency
I'd have more trust in the system if there was even a tiny bit of repercussions from the twitter files on the FBI, CIA and a law was passed to end the defacto criminalizing of lawful and free speech.
The “problem” the deepstate let fester is called the internet. They miss the days when just a few networks, radio stations, and major newspapers had to be infiltrated and controlled. Although ownership of media had been consolidated, they still want absolute control over information, because that’s what tyrants do
It’s not a coincidence at all they’re doing this. Not so long ago I might have viewed this as just another ‘documentary’ but knowing what we know now about Hollywood and the Intelligence working together this should be of concern to people.
That’s part of it, but I believe it should be more concerning when we factor the involvement of the Feds in J6. The levels they would go to are still being uncovered, and to what greater levels would they go in the future ?
In comparison to the 2018 waco series that might not be entirely correct, but it at least paints the government in a worse light than the branch davidians….
Whelp. It's been a long time coming and GEOTUS was right. They have accelerated the destruction to the point of no return with bill. And introduced by RINO's of all things. The grossest of gross.
Funny. I don’t see anywhere in the Constitution where the federal government can grant itself powers that are not specifically listed in the constitution already.
I think that foreign owned companies should be required to have a domestic partner to operate in the United States that is legally required to have access to all of their data on US citizens and be able to conduct data audits.
I'm way more scared that the federal government wants read my messages in order to put people like us in solitary in the basement of a black ops building than that china is going to spy on my conversations.
IF you think you MIGHT ever want to have the option of having a conversation that the feds can't hold against you in a court, it can't happen on a platform where they have backdoor access.
It's not about reading your messages, they already can do that. This would let them for example take over Twitter again and arrest anyone spitting truth. Same with Truth Social which they've been trying to shut down but will need more as 2024 approaches
No, the feds can't log in a backdoor portal of WeChat and read your private dms. The ccp handlers at chinese tech corps wouldn't allow their company to have a backdoor portal to log in and read your info.
I don’t want platforms with backdoor access either. I just meant that if the company has access to your data they should be required to audit the access to their data to secure it.
Credit card leaks and other such events are horrific and occur way too often because companies don’t audit access, anyway. And we can’t force foreign companies to restrict access.
Companies shouldn't be allowed to expand past their home county. Corporations have a bad habit of shutting down competitors and family owned businesses then using their monopoly to enforce an agenda.
Depends on the rarity of the resource they're selling or the how specialized their trade is. A trade worker could travel from New York to a rural village in Montana to do work especiallyif theres no one with that particular skill in Montana.
This is meant to prevent corporations like Walmart from expanding into other states and driving out local family owned stores then forcing customers to cover their face and employees to take a clot shot knowing they have no other place to go.
I think he means the US subdivision of the company has to have and only that subdivision has data on US citizens. The parent company cannot have the data, i.e., there is a firewall between the US and foreign aspects of the company.
Data that is private and inaccessible does not need to be audited. If it can be accessed, then you need to audit it in terms of who has access to it in order to secure it. Sorry for the confusion.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
ALSO WHOLLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. First Amendment rights mean government cannot interfere with freedom of speech or of the press. The danger in this openly tyrannical piece of legislation is that the government is giving itself permission to MONITOR AND CENSOR not just a limited type of communication under specific circumstances, but ANY AND ALL communication under ANY AND ALL circumstances...because, of course, it would need to monitor communication before it could censor it AND PUNISH IT.
In a nutshell, the government is giving itself permission to SPY ON AND PUNISH any Americans whom it desires for political purposes, in order to SILENCE AND OPPRESS them.
THOSE WHO GOVERN HAVE SET THEMSELVES UP AS RULERS. A person who governs is told what to do by the person having employed him---he is a steward of power. A ruler tells the people what to do. The American system of government was designed to prevent rulership!
You're unaware that our government spies on everything already, and has for years? Any keystroke you make is recorded, even if you never enter it into anything.
Yes, but now it is giving itself legal permission to spy, censor, and punish, leaving you without legal recourse or protection of any kind whatsoever; no one need fear being identified as a covert glowie since everything can be done to us brazenly and, importantly, with impunity...
The difference between "certain persons" and "all persons" is the same difference between "law" and "code of conduct". Through selective enforcement the arbiters are given full power to choose who had intent to break the law and who wasn't a "risk". This is how you write laws that certain people can break without being punished.
Banning or censoring is Un-American and takes away my right to self determine whats good for me and what isn't. Otherwise, were going to live in a nanny country with cucks telling us what and how we should think, fuck that.
Of course they would. Instead of just banning Tik Tok they have to draft laws to encompass everything they deem a threat to themselves. Fucking politicians
The worst part of this is they are flat out calling it the restrict act, when normally they label bills to opposite of what they are designed to do to fool the liberal idiots. Two examples are the patriot act, which is the opposite of patriotic and the economic recovery act which also does the opposite.
So they'll basically use Tik Tok as an excuse to block everything that's not controlled by the uniparty establishment and cry on the news about 'the children' because the GOP won't support it. It's all so tiresome...
And thus the Ministry of Truth is born
Just like Obama tried to do when they were so sure Hillary would win. They tried to use net neutrality to control in the same way. Now it’s the same with but with this bs.
I think it's hilarious that they flooded reddit and Twitter with propaganda about Net Neutrality like the Internet would die. All of their talking points didn't materialize after all these years.
There has been strong competition to broadband Internet due to investment in fiber optics and 5G wireless. The cap nonsense disappeared. The only people who get throttled are the abusers that hobby in data archival and mass torrenting. No innovation has been stifled.
Now, if Net Nuetrality had passed, we probably would have seen far more restrictions and government control. Which their censorship and propaganda have already been bad.
I remember talking about this during the days when TD was on Reddit. Man, I would trigger so many lefties when I said NN was a scam to let the gov control your internet, and thus, control the bandwidth you would be allowed to use.
I was met with downvotes and them screaming how NN would save the internet from companies like Comcast.
But when you read the damn thing, you would learn that it would give Comcast MORE control as they would literally be the only provider in town by using NN as a way to ensure only their service was provided, and they would be guaranteed government grants until the foreseeable future.
As soon as NN died, competition rose and with competition, came BETTER service.
Speaking of my area in particular, as soon as NN was dead, Time Warner no longer was the big dog in town. Now we have multiple ISPs and they all offer cheap and reliable service. As soon as Google showed up with fiber, ATT stepped up and offered a cheaper plan at 1gig up/down w/ HBO max thrown in.
If NN was still a thing, I'd be stuck with Time Warner CABLE at 300meg up/down, paying the same bill that I'm paying right now with ATT.
There is a dead internet theory.
Yes, and Reddit is proof of it. Nothing but bots on the main subs.
100% would have been restricted. NNwas to make internet a “utility”. Then they made legal, a “center” appointed by the whitehouse. In the whitehouse. That would control who was allowed to have these utility licenses based off the ISP blocking what they were told to block and how. NN would have been the death of the rest of them internet. Fucking Obama gave whatever left to Europe anyway. The fuck.
"SHAYNA! SHAYNA MIGHT COUNTER OUR NARRATIVE ON TIK TOK!"
Another deep state trick.
What is our reaction?
Protest?
Or sit on the couch and eat chips like a bunch of fat fags?
The latter, obviously.
Speak for yourself, I'm chomping on a crayon.
Tastes like burning
Sounds like you got a 'Mostly Peaceful'.
Blue, I only eat the best.
I'm huffing a papersack full of Kroil..the oil that creeps!
LOL! I have our parts manager keep Kroil in stock. They'd never heard of it until I started working at my shop.
Smells awesome
Just like Simple Green.
Play-doh for me
I'm eating oatmeal, drinking coffee, watching motogp, and about to head off to church
Blueberry pancakes, coffee and then east bound and down ...heading for the coast for the day
Do nothingnism destroyed our country... not democrats
Hey, I will have you know I penned a stern letter!!!!!
protest? might as well write a sternly written letter faggot.
Protests work.
If we protest it will scare the shit out of elites.
...They freaked over a two thousand J6 protesters....
Imagine a few million...
It was never going to be aborted
Its worst than that right now...
A lot worse than a Patriot Act 2.0. A LOT worse
My first thought is this is how they go after Musk and Twitter
Government authorized censorship or tik-tock. Would prefer the free speech.
Would prefer kids and women banned from all social media, along with bots.
This is also how they go after you and me.
Politician: “We need a law that will regulate this specific little thing people that are complaining about.”
Lawyer: “And while we’re at it, let’s make it regulate everything else too.”
This
Politician "While were at it, how can we infringe the second amendment"
Lawyer: AreWeTheBaddies.jpg
Yeah. Seems like every bill that gets passed has some unrelated gun control wedged in there. Wish that crap could get you fired.
More like "while we are at it, lets make sure nobody else can do what we are already unconstitutionally doing"
The politician is also the lawyer.
This is way worse than TikTok.
Guarantee this was written with Twitter and Musk in mind.
It is. They want the only platforms to be IG and Facebook for complete control
Who are the sponsors of this POS?
The uniparty. Every time there is "bipartisan" support for something, anything, you can bet that it will screw over the American people. Alarm bells were going off in my head when I heard all the chatter about "bipartisan" concern over tik tok. And now we know why.
Concise. We are not in a bipartisan-compatible state at this time, it is an imaginary or tiny contingent of patriots vs communism. We are incapable of achieving bipartisan support of something actually good for the people in our current condition.
The problem is 91% of people still think there’s Dems and reps.
This is coupled with growing mental illness, people can only pretend they're not seeing it for so long before their mind starts breaking.
Not so fast. Rudy Giuliani is out there shilling for this bill too, so the maga wing is also behind it and was a driving force during Trump's presidency
Maybe it's a reverse psyop.
That’s why he said “imaginary “ I assume
I'd have more trust in the system if there was even a tiny bit of repercussions from the twitter files on the FBI, CIA and a law was passed to end the defacto criminalizing of lawful and free speech.
Best I can do is the first amendment.
Absolutely, every time. "Bipartisan" means "both parties fuck you and there's no lube in sight"
Every. Single. Time.
This
Epstein Island Frequent Flyers
This is how they cash in their bonus points.
The usual suspects https://www.warner.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2023/3/senators-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-tackle-national-security-threats-from-foreign-tech
Government lets the problem fester, so they solve it by snuffing out more freedom.
1A under serious potential assault. We all know that the FBI/DOJ/ATF/EPA say right wing extremism is the number one threat our country faces...
The “problem” the deepstate let fester is called the internet. They miss the days when just a few networks, radio stations, and major newspapers had to be infiltrated and controlled. Although ownership of media had been consolidated, they still want absolute control over information, because that’s what tyrants do
You got that right
No wonder it's "bipartisan"
I think they are planning something so horrific that they don't want us to have any avenue to communicate with others on what do we do about it.
You may be onto something, they’re resurrecting Waco and the OKC bombing on multiple platforms https://www.sho.com/video/80978/waco-the-aftermath-official-trailer this being just one
It’s not a coincidence at all they’re doing this. Not so long ago I might have viewed this as just another ‘documentary’ but knowing what we know now about Hollywood and the Intelligence working together this should be of concern to people.
That’s part of it, but I believe it should be more concerning when we factor the involvement of the Feds in J6. The levels they would go to are still being uncovered, and to what greater levels would they go in the future ?
Okc bombing made militia a bad word (to idiots)
In comparison to the 2018 waco series that might not be entirely correct, but it at least paints the government in a worse light than the branch davidians….
Oh definitely this.
We need to get back to mIRC.
This means they are already doing this but looking for legal justification to prosecute people in the future using this.
Yes.
This is about shutting down places like Patriots.win and similar places where people expose the Deep State and their crimes.
Yes, they've been spying on all of our communications for decades. Snowden warned us, but most people didn't care.
Whelp. It's been a long time coming and GEOTUS was right. They have accelerated the destruction to the point of no return with bill. And introduced by RINO's of all things. The grossest of gross.
To be expected, but.. ugh.
Here we go again with another fake bill that gives government even more control over the problem at hand. NO. Restrict government!
Funny. I don’t see anywhere in the Constitution where the federal government can grant itself powers that are not specifically listed in the constitution already.
If only there was a party that believed in the Constitution....if only.
There’s no parties anymore. There’s not even a political spectrum. It’s either complete liberty or slavery.
I think that foreign owned companies should be required to have a domestic partner to operate in the United States that is legally required to have access to all of their data on US citizens and be able to conduct data audits.
Not this shit.
Check into the new battery factory in MI. Ford and their Chinese partner.
Lol Maga coming back around to 80s Midwest union dem protectionism after being brain washed by the chamber of commerce is a crazy arc
I despise the chamber and every RepublicunT that worships it
I'm way more scared that the federal government wants read my messages in order to put people like us in solitary in the basement of a black ops building than that china is going to spy on my conversations.
IF you think you MIGHT ever want to have the option of having a conversation that the feds can't hold against you in a court, it can't happen on a platform where they have backdoor access.
Finally...someone that actually recognizes the true threat, instead of foreign boogeyman
It's not about reading your messages, they already can do that. This would let them for example take over Twitter again and arrest anyone spitting truth. Same with Truth Social which they've been trying to shut down but will need more as 2024 approaches
No, the feds can't log in a backdoor portal of WeChat and read your private dms. The ccp handlers at chinese tech corps wouldn't allow their company to have a backdoor portal to log in and read your info.
CCP doesn't need a backdoor for WeChat. NSA and CIA probably do
Unless they can decrypt it, yes they do. And the ccp handlers at tiktok and wechat wouldn't give them that, so
Yep that's my point.
I don’t want platforms with backdoor access either. I just meant that if the company has access to your data they should be required to audit the access to their data to secure it.
Credit card leaks and other such events are horrific and occur way too often because companies don’t audit access, anyway. And we can’t force foreign companies to restrict access.
Companies shouldn't be allowed to expand past their home county. Corporations have a bad habit of shutting down competitors and family owned businesses then using their monopoly to enforce an agenda.
How would we get bananas?
Nothing stopping a warehouse from buying bananas and paying a trucker or train to haul them.
Should they be allowed to expand past their home state?
Depends on the rarity of the resource they're selling or the how specialized their trade is. A trade worker could travel from New York to a rural village in Montana to do work especiallyif theres no one with that particular skill in Montana.
This is meant to prevent corporations like Walmart from expanding into other states and driving out local family owned stores then forcing customers to cover their face and employees to take a clot shot knowing they have no other place to go.
Should some businesses be restricted to their home city?
Walmart sells products of 10,000s of family owned businesses....
It's like you've never watched shark tank lol
What about privacy?
I think he means the US subdivision of the company has to have and only that subdivision has data on US citizens. The parent company cannot have the data, i.e., there is a firewall between the US and foreign aspects of the company.
Why not let customers decide who can access their data?
I am not the poster, I was clarifying his answer; take your disagreement up with him, not me.
Data that is private and inaccessible does not need to be audited. If it can be accessed, then you need to audit it in terms of who has access to it in order to secure it. Sorry for the confusion.
Factually, that's how China operates.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I wonder who in congress has read that?
They've read it alright, they just see the bill of rights as a problem that they need to work around.
sounds like a blank check to censor to me.
[redacted]
Can't have people talking about their corrupt government.
Why did Trump extend the Patriot Act?
It's a fair question.
Only an idiot retard would disagree with this inquiry
Tyrants
Patriot Act ON STEROIDS.
ALSO WHOLLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. First Amendment rights mean government cannot interfere with freedom of speech or of the press. The danger in this openly tyrannical piece of legislation is that the government is giving itself permission to MONITOR AND CENSOR not just a limited type of communication under specific circumstances, but ANY AND ALL communication under ANY AND ALL circumstances...because, of course, it would need to monitor communication before it could censor it AND PUNISH IT.
In a nutshell, the government is giving itself permission to SPY ON AND PUNISH any Americans whom it desires for political purposes, in order to SILENCE AND OPPRESS them.
THOSE WHO GOVERN HAVE SET THEMSELVES UP AS RULERS. A person who governs is told what to do by the person having employed him---he is a steward of power. A ruler tells the people what to do. The American system of government was designed to prevent rulership!
You're unaware that our government spies on everything already, and has for years? Any keystroke you make is recorded, even if you never enter it into anything.
Yes, but now it is giving itself legal permission to spy, censor, and punish, leaving you without legal recourse or protection of any kind whatsoever; no one need fear being identified as a covert glowie since everything can be done to us brazenly and, importantly, with impunity...
Totalitarianism.
I told a government Official we have encroaching totalitarianism years ago and he freaked out.
They use 1984 like a training manual.
The difference between "certain persons" and "all persons" is the same difference between "law" and "code of conduct". Through selective enforcement the arbiters are given full power to choose who had intent to break the law and who wasn't a "risk". This is how you write laws that certain people can break without being punished.
Hopefully the house votes against this. We might get lucky.
Well, NOW's the time to call all your representatives about it!
Already did.
Banning or censoring is Un-American and takes away my right to self determine whats good for me and what isn't. Otherwise, were going to live in a nanny country with cucks telling us what and how we should think, fuck that.
👍
Thune? Collins? Romney?
Beware!
bAn TiKtOk!!1
Well, congratulations, idiot. Now it's worse.
I saw this coming a million miles ago. So incredibly predictable....when you beg your government to 'save the children'. What a disgrace
No need for a law....if you don't like tic tok then don't watch it....like TV news....they lie so don't watch it.....
The GFY Act is what we need
Of course they would. Instead of just banning Tik Tok they have to draft laws to encompass everything they deem a threat to themselves. Fucking politicians
The worst part of this is they are flat out calling it the restrict act, when normally they label bills to opposite of what they are designed to do to fool the liberal idiots. Two examples are the patriot act, which is the opposite of patriotic and the economic recovery act which also does the opposite.
we were supposed to phase out the Patriot act not add to it. Deepstate is not going to let go
This was never just about tiktok. Everyone here was all on board when Trump said it. Now we see it for what it really is.
Banning it on government hardware and banning private citizens from accessing it are two completely different animals.
People should know better than to use that crap app but we should not have our gov deciding we can’t use it for us.
They couldn't get it with Net Neutrality™, but they'll never stop trying
Don't they already with the NSA?
NSA's job is to spy on and collect all communications.
The NSA does not secretly imprison people without due process.
They will find a way to brag about their bipartisanship with this one.
I heard that very logic on AM already. They say we are winning.
So they'll basically use Tik Tok as an excuse to block everything that's not controlled by the uniparty establishment and cry on the news about 'the children' because the GOP won't support it. It's all so tiresome...