Not even midgets. Worse deformities that can’t function properly. Born with no legs. Born without functioning genitalia. Only think I know to call it is a mistake. It gets corrected quickly by nature, but it’s a mistake. People love to say each person is created by god, and god is perfect with no mistakes, but if that’s so, then what do you call deformities?
i don't like the argument that because deformations exist that God is not perfect, since essentially the argument is that in order for God to be perfect, humanity must be perfect, likely eternal
I would rather argue God seemingly made a reality in which things degrade and die, a world where our actions affect genetics like an alcoholic giving birth to a child with fas
Simply pointing to a child with one leg does not prove God made a mistake since it could be that God made a system with imperfections
We’re in a fallen world which I think unfortunately means that things happen as our very dna doesn’t have that protection we once had in eden. Though God still loves us and will help us through and even give those flaws purpose if asked.
Eh. Everybody is born with challenges. Whether you have an illness, feel as though you are in the wrong body, have deformities, learning deficits, have a bad childhood, are ugly af, etc. Life is to overcome those challenges.
Yes, God gave each of us free will to choose to do good or to do bad. God did not choose for them, they chose themselves to be democrat, men of their own free will chose to do that and they will be judge in the end for ever action, & every word! In God's love He came to save us from our sins and waits for us to repent by choosing of our own free will to be good and obey His Loving Commandments, and be saved by His Loving graces He continues to give to us through His Holy Cross.
Be careful about saying God doesn't make mistakes. He doesn't, but we don't want kids to think He deliberately gave them Down syndrome, severe autism, birth defects, epilepsy and many other conditions to innocent children. It's just being born into the imperfect material world!!!
Why do you blame God for the actions of evil men? God didn't choose to do that evil, those men did of their own free will and they will face God's Almighty Wrath for doing such evil that He commanded not to do: Thou Shall Not Kill!!!!
Found this interesting quote from Council of Trent: CANON VI.-If any one saith, that it is not in man's power to make his ways evil, but that the works that are evil God worketh as well as those that are good, not permissively only, but properly, and of Himself, in such wise that the treason of Judas is no less His own proper work than the vocation of Paul; let him be anathema.
I have chewed on this idea before and came to this conclusion.
This is the work of god as a mechanism to curb humans as a whole going down the wrong path premantly
When humans turn their path from god due to ease of easy times, it triggers what we see today to crumble society into a hard times restart like the dark ages when Rome fell as one example.
As an empire or culture dives into perversions, the left begin to populate to bring the downfall.
Perhaps after Sodom and Gomora, god could have tweaked the genetic code as an automated system to recalibrate the human race.
People complain why isn't god stepping when in fact, god doesn't need to because he already set up a system reboot because in god's eyes, 200 years is nothing when looking at the span of a 10,000 years.
Which god? And whomever is god certainly does make mistakes. You know he was puffing some high terp when creating the duckbill platypus, the hyena, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Nothing is infallible. Even god fucks up. First mistake was allowing free will because that allows us to think and ask questions.
Adam and Eve's kids had to fuck to populate the earth. Then the all-powerful decided to wipe out humanity and animals in a flood. Piled on two of each animal onto the ark and then Noah's family so all the first cousins could fuck and repopulate the planet.
I know, I know. It's ok though because the genes were perfect back then. Sick fucks.
Realistically this would need to happen on any planet in any universe where two people began the planets population.
No I don't believe in aliens and my question for you is. How else? The genetics were ripe so no problem there. When you have 2 people to perpetuate the human race what is your solution?
Being 'all-powerful' my solution would have been to just make more people. Or start at the chemical/cellular level so species after wouldn't need to incest. When you're as powerful as you claim your god is they are pretty easy solutions.
The number of incest sympathizers in Christianity just because you refuse to question your deity is really very disturbing and disgusting.
That's ok, Giggity. Every Bible reader has these exact same thoughts starting out. They judge Bible characters by today's moral standards. There's lots of incest in the Bible and other weird sexual behavior. Along with a lot more bizarre behavior.
Also wrong answer. You sit in judgment of God which tells me tons about your psychological development. The audacity it takes. So when you die and come face to face with your creator THAT is going to be your hill to die on moment? Coulda woulda should God LOL. Which makes you WILLFULLY Ignorant. huh.
You see that's where your wrong. Your thinking is very shallow. You don't seem to have any depth to understanding things as they really are.
Have you see the movie The Matrix? Remember when Neo woke up into a completely different reality to the one he was born into? Being born again is EXACTLY like that but on a spiritual level. I had no idea I was asleep until I woke up spiritually. Then I understood how everything works in relation to Man and God. Well not EVERYTHING but that is when I began a most fantastic journey.
God has made Himself evident to me on many occasions. Including the 3 times He spoke to me out loud. Yep freaked me out and Yes I asked for Confirmation to make make sure I wasn't going crazy.
I must tell you, based upon my interaction with the Almighty you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what your talking about. I mean NONE whatsoever. Me and MY LIFE are a direct contradiction to who you are and what you believe to be true about God and our fashioned reality.
Yes of course in order to maintain your shallow view of everything I MUST be crazy. Delusional even. I HAVE to be. Otherwise? C ya.
There were clearly other humans on earth aside from the two created inside the garden. Genesis chapter four says that Cain went to a place called Nod and found a wife, after all. Also, Cain was worried about being killed by other people when he was exiled.
That's not mutually agreed on by Christians. A large portion of Christians believe there was just Adam and Eve and that all of humanity came from them and that the incest was ok because "perfect genes" and because God can do what he wants even if we don't understand it.
Secondly, how do you explain the flood and first cousins restarting humanity for the second time?
Vast numbers of professed Christians spend little or no time studying the Bible, their mutual agreement or lack thereof is irrelevant and doesn't change what the book actually says.
As for the flood, the easiest answer is that an omnipotent being can do whatever He wants and simply created more humans or modified the genes of the survivors to avoid pedigree collapse.
You didn't even read that before posting your canned response, did you? There's not a lot of room for interpretation in Cain went out and found a wife.
You do realize the "first" of every living thing committed "incest." The first cell that divided used it's own material to do so, plus a "divine" spark of some sort.
Faith is called faith because one chooses to believe, not because someone can provide scientific proof. Conflating the two is an error in logic.
Incest is a human construct based around the realities of how our species reproduces. No one thinks clownfish are perverts because they're sequential hermaphrodites (Marlin would have switched genders and mated with Nemo IRL). It's just what they do, or how God made them. The idea that God would construct humans, make us accountable for sin then require some number of generations to commit incest before making it bad is a strange notion even if we set aside the genetic implications.
Genesis doesn't have to have literally happened. Starting with "it literally happened" and shaping everyting around that notion seems to be conflating the two... I'm not a Christian so I won't speculate on the metaphorical meanings but tons of Christians see it that way.
Do you include yourself in that metric, or are you the one thing He got "right"? And if so, why should your opinion be valued, knowing how much of a mistake you are?
So what do you call deformed babies and democrats? Challenges?
to say you were born deformed implies that there is a standard, but to say that you were born in the wrong body is an attack on the standard itself
I ought to have been born a woman is not a coherent argument, it's the logical equivalent of saying x ought to be y
Sure, but you didn’t address my point. You used Matt’s argument against trannies as if I’m making an argument about gender.
If you don’t call deformed babies a genetic or development mistake or mistake in the creation of the baby, what do you call it?
i think we're talking past each other
obviously there are genetic abnormalities
What do you call abnormalities that hinder the function other than mistakes?
Took like a day to get on the same page lol
Like did God make a mistake when he created a midget let's say
It's an interesting question, I don't think mistake is the right term, as if God is stifled by his own creation process
Truthfully i don't know, I've been wondering about midgets my whole life
Not even midgets. Worse deformities that can’t function properly. Born with no legs. Born without functioning genitalia. Only think I know to call it is a mistake. It gets corrected quickly by nature, but it’s a mistake. People love to say each person is created by god, and god is perfect with no mistakes, but if that’s so, then what do you call deformities?
i don't like the argument that because deformations exist that God is not perfect, since essentially the argument is that in order for God to be perfect, humanity must be perfect, likely eternal
I would rather argue God seemingly made a reality in which things degrade and die, a world where our actions affect genetics like an alcoholic giving birth to a child with fas
Simply pointing to a child with one leg does not prove God made a mistake since it could be that God made a system with imperfections
We’re in a fallen world which I think unfortunately means that things happen as our very dna doesn’t have that protection we once had in eden. Though God still loves us and will help us through and even give those flaws purpose if asked.
Yeah, it's blasphemy, it seems like, to say you were born in the wrong body.
Life isn't as clear cut as that.
Acknowledging that there is legitimate physical deformations of reproductive organs on occasion, doesn't neuter your god imo.
Eh. Everybody is born with challenges. Whether you have an illness, feel as though you are in the wrong body, have deformities, learning deficits, have a bad childhood, are ugly af, etc. Life is to overcome those challenges.
Idk, God allows democrats to exist.
Yes, God gave each of us free will to choose to do good or to do bad. God did not choose for them, they chose themselves to be democrat, men of their own free will chose to do that and they will be judge in the end for ever action, & every word! In God's love He came to save us from our sins and waits for us to repent by choosing of our own free will to be good and obey His Loving Commandments, and be saved by His Loving graces He continues to give to us through His Holy Cross.
Be careful about saying God doesn't make mistakes. He doesn't, but we don't want kids to think He deliberately gave them Down syndrome, severe autism, birth defects, epilepsy and many other conditions to innocent children. It's just being born into the imperfect material world!!!
So if a democrat kills a bunch of kids, then repents, God will just love them, right?
Why do you blame God for the actions of evil men? God didn't choose to do that evil, those men did of their own free will and they will face God's Almighty Wrath for doing such evil that He commanded not to do: Thou Shall Not Kill!!!!
God created everything, right? So He created the premise for evil to happen?
Found this interesting quote from Council of Trent: CANON VI.-If any one saith, that it is not in man's power to make his ways evil, but that the works that are evil God worketh as well as those that are good, not permissively only, but properly, and of Himself, in such wise that the treason of Judas is no less His own proper work than the vocation of Paul; let him be anathema.
I have chewed on this idea before and came to this conclusion.
This is the work of god as a mechanism to curb humans as a whole going down the wrong path premantly
When humans turn their path from god due to ease of easy times, it triggers what we see today to crumble society into a hard times restart like the dark ages when Rome fell as one example.
As an empire or culture dives into perversions, the left begin to populate to bring the downfall.
Perhaps after Sodom and Gomora, god could have tweaked the genetic code as an automated system to recalibrate the human race.
People complain why isn't god stepping when in fact, god doesn't need to because he already set up a system reboot because in god's eyes, 200 years is nothing when looking at the span of a 10,000 years.
The environment poisons the bodies and brains... the jabs, the foods, the water and then come the groomers.
"God doesn't make mistakes"
Meanwhile, fucked up the creation of man so much that he mass murdered all but one family.
Right.
Which god? And whomever is god certainly does make mistakes. You know he was puffing some high terp when creating the duckbill platypus, the hyena, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Nothing is infallible. Even god fucks up. First mistake was allowing free will because that allows us to think and ask questions.
I knew it! He forced incest twice in Genesis on purpose!
Ignorant.
Adam and Eve's kids had to fuck to populate the earth. Then the all-powerful decided to wipe out humanity and animals in a flood. Piled on two of each animal onto the ark and then Noah's family so all the first cousins could fuck and repopulate the planet.
I know, I know. It's ok though because the genes were perfect back then. Sick fucks.
Realistically this would need to happen on any planet in any universe where two people began the planets population.
No I don't believe in aliens and my question for you is. How else? The genetics were ripe so no problem there. When you have 2 people to perpetuate the human race what is your solution?
Start with a large population of the tree dwelling precursor to primates…
We didn't come from apes in the first place. Wrong answer.
Ok Mr Pedantic. I’d start with the tree dwelling precursor to modern primates.
Nah dude, we were magically created from dust 4000 years ago duhhhh /s
LMFAOA!!! You actually think we came from monkeys? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Being 'all-powerful' my solution would have been to just make more people. Or start at the chemical/cellular level so species after wouldn't need to incest. When you're as powerful as you claim your god is they are pretty easy solutions.
The number of incest sympathizers in Christianity just because you refuse to question your deity is really very disturbing and disgusting.
That's ok, Giggity. Every Bible reader has these exact same thoughts starting out. They judge Bible characters by today's moral standards. There's lots of incest in the Bible and other weird sexual behavior. Along with a lot more bizarre behavior.
Also wrong answer. You sit in judgment of God which tells me tons about your psychological development. The audacity it takes. So when you die and come face to face with your creator THAT is going to be your hill to die on moment? Coulda woulda should God LOL. Which makes you WILLFULLY Ignorant. huh.
You see that's where your wrong. Your thinking is very shallow. You don't seem to have any depth to understanding things as they really are.
Have you see the movie The Matrix? Remember when Neo woke up into a completely different reality to the one he was born into? Being born again is EXACTLY like that but on a spiritual level. I had no idea I was asleep until I woke up spiritually. Then I understood how everything works in relation to Man and God. Well not EVERYTHING but that is when I began a most fantastic journey.
God has made Himself evident to me on many occasions. Including the 3 times He spoke to me out loud. Yep freaked me out and Yes I asked for Confirmation to make make sure I wasn't going crazy.
I must tell you, based upon my interaction with the Almighty you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what your talking about. I mean NONE whatsoever. Me and MY LIFE are a direct contradiction to who you are and what you believe to be true about God and our fashioned reality.
Yes of course in order to maintain your shallow view of everything I MUST be crazy. Delusional even. I HAVE to be. Otherwise? C ya.
There were clearly other humans on earth aside from the two created inside the garden. Genesis chapter four says that Cain went to a place called Nod and found a wife, after all. Also, Cain was worried about being killed by other people when he was exiled.
That's not mutually agreed on by Christians. A large portion of Christians believe there was just Adam and Eve and that all of humanity came from them and that the incest was ok because "perfect genes" and because God can do what he wants even if we don't understand it.
Secondly, how do you explain the flood and first cousins restarting humanity for the second time?
Vast numbers of professed Christians spend little or no time studying the Bible, their mutual agreement or lack thereof is irrelevant and doesn't change what the book actually says.
As for the flood, the easiest answer is that an omnipotent being can do whatever He wants and simply created more humans or modified the genes of the survivors to avoid pedigree collapse.
You didn't even read that before posting your canned response, did you? There's not a lot of room for interpretation in Cain went out and found a wife.
You do realize the "first" of every living thing committed "incest." The first cell that divided used it's own material to do so, plus a "divine" spark of some sort.
Faith is called faith because one chooses to believe, not because someone can provide scientific proof. Conflating the two is an error in logic.
Incest is a human construct based around the realities of how our species reproduces. No one thinks clownfish are perverts because they're sequential hermaphrodites (Marlin would have switched genders and mated with Nemo IRL). It's just what they do, or how God made them. The idea that God would construct humans, make us accountable for sin then require some number of generations to commit incest before making it bad is a strange notion even if we set aside the genetic implications.
Genesis doesn't have to have literally happened. Starting with "it literally happened" and shaping everyting around that notion seems to be conflating the two... I'm not a Christian so I won't speculate on the metaphorical meanings but tons of Christians see it that way.
You don't understand evolution.
Believing something on faith is stupid.
If your " God " had anything to do with it, there would be mistakes.
Do you include yourself in that metric, or are you the one thing He got "right"? And if so, why should your opinion be valued, knowing how much of a mistake you are?
Ignorant.