The way so many of them just mindlessly obeyed the barricades and turned around to drive right into the flames is a real testament to how “blue” that place is.
The herd mentality is something to behold, but I feel kinda bad for the sheep because they were brainwashed into it. Hard to feel anger toward victims.
These are the same people who mindlessly had themselves and their children jabbed and boosted. They'll do whatever the government tells them to do as long as the welfare checks keep coming.
For some reason the government decides to just kill them instead of telling them to be productive. If I had a bunch of people that blindly loyal to me, I wouldnt be wasting their lives in such a way.
In 2016 there was a Korean ferry accident that eventually lead to several students deaths because they followed orders and stayed in their cabins waiting for rescue that never came. Only those that disobeyed those orders survived.
They all fall into a hive mind mentality and never deviate from it through their entire lives. Hence why the CCP and other Asian dictatorships have been easily able to maintain power.
All crowds are retarded. That's why you'd have to be braindead to find yourself inside of one. Asians often live in high density configurations, so they're always in a crowd, and in some cases it's actually become part of their self image.
stop virtue signaling. the other guy is right. i'm asian and agree they are hive minded and think that conforming and listening to orders is being "good"
Alex Jones has said something sort of similar to that about Asians, and he's seen enough and read enough history to know. I've seen it in an Asian YouTube couple.
I don't assume the emergency people blocking a way because it's "dangerous" are wrong. I have no other information.
But like the Twin Tower folks who evacuated when told to stay put. . . those who disobeyed chose wisely. I won't blame, AT ALL, the people who minded. They were not "stupid." They were in a panic situation and had to go on what info they had.
It's a wildfire. Unless these people were blind they could see which direction they needed to evacuate, and were trying to do so. I'd wager high money many of the compliant were also COVID fakevaxxed multiple times.
I've never dealt with fires, but did spend eight years on disaster containment and cleanup teams. Yes, there are always some that totally freak -- but has there ever been a documented case of entire groups of people running into flames in response to sirens?
You should ALWAYS panic and flee. When they say don't panic, they are full of shit. the dawdlers in the trade center who kept going back for stuff, dawdling in the stairwell, they died. I've read some good books on why some people flee and some don't, and some run into danger to save people. I've learned even if you are the type that wouldn't ordinarily take flight, you can change you mindset knowing the odds of survival are much greater.
This is why they didn't set off the tsunami sirens. The sirens mean get away from the coast and get inland. If they set off the sirens, people would have escaped. Officials say they were concerned they would escape straight into the fire, but that was not true, the opposite happened. Those that left and got through the barricades survived. Those that didn't, did not survive.
How about that EAS texting system they fucked up and scared people into thinking there was a missile headed at them? How about fuckin use that and warn people at your earliest convenience King Oahu
Now imagine an electric future. The problem is gasoline is bad after 6 months, and no one will be able to build a refinery. Electric cars are going to murder people during disasters.
I'm waiting for manslaughter charges on the democrat official who refused to blow the siren and the other democrat official who denied water. They need to be in prostrate pounding prison.
Approximately 10,000 acres of Hawaii burn every year. Fires are an expected norm.
The tsunami sirens in Hawaii are never used for a fire warning. Instead, wireless emergency alerts (WEA) and the Emergency Alert System (EAS) are used for fire warnings.
Oh bullshit. They are permitted for fire use. In fact, the official that nixed using them just quit ("health" reasons). If they weren't allowed for that use, there would have been no discussion. Instead, he decided they should not be used because some people might mistakenly move toward the fire.
For whatever reason, the wireless alert system was either not used or the system was down. I'm not sure why, but people weren't getting messages on their cell phone.
So, it was decided to not use the warning sirens because it would be better for people to shelter in place because they might be too stupid to move away from the fire. One option is let people know, with the smal possibility some might go the wrong way, and the other option is to just not them know so they all die? That's fucked up. I can't believe you're making this sound as business as usual.
Non ethanolated is only about 6 months. Of course, you can run piss in a low compression Briggs and Stratton motor. Get fuel stabilizer and you can get any type to last a couple years.
I read about how a family escaped the fires in California on bicycles, so I have also prepared that method of escape. Ebikes are becoming cheaper now and could also be charged with solar. Even if you trust the government, emergency preparedness requires multiple evacuation routes. I could not imagine relying on a car I have to plug in for any emergency
*Idk why the word "evacuation" was removed, but I put it back
My uncle was a spook in DC, he had dirtbikes for the family incase SHTF. Cars are going to be caught in the gridlock, some form of 2 wheel is the way to go.
Also super dangerous. I imagine most people that get into motorcycle accidents that cause serious injury or death weren't at fault, but rather someone else ran into them. Saw it happen to plenty of people over the years.
If you live near flowing water it'd probably charge much faster using a portable underwater generator. I forget what they're called but you just place it in the water facing a certain way.
Electric cars are going to murder people during disasters.
Not only can and will the Gov't turn your elecTRICK vehicle off, or Geofence it at a barricade, but it turns into a horizontal TOXIC FLAMETHROWER in wildfire conditions like on Maui.
Ask Tesla, and other makers that GPS track these things how many actually lit up in Maui.
While you're at it, ask them how many Power walls and other house batteries did the same thing.
Trust your instincts and flee when you think you need to. Those who obey orders to stay in place, do not end up well. The reason why low level officials, police and firemen etc say to "stay in place" is to prevent panic or to prevent unmanageable crowds. Everything in their training causes them to want to control people more than to ascertain the threat level. They think the threat level is a "wait and see" thing and in the meantime, while the catastrophe is unraveling, they are betting they have time, it's not that big of a deal and other emergency responders will get it under control. They have everything they are trained to do working against them and you. Trust your own gut and if you think you need to get out of there - get out of there. It's important to understand that in a fluid, threatening situation, your best bet is not to stay put and hunker down but to move.
And the shooting at Uvalde - where the mother went and got her children, after being handcuffed by the cops. She wasn't going to obey and let her children be put in harm's way.
Rationalism has made people doubt their own intuitions, common sense, and instincts because they can't be explained with logic and reason in a way that aligns with a purely materialistic world view.
If they looked into what causes intuition, they might not be so silly. Your brain makes calculations that you are consciously unaware of, and that does not make them less significant.
It's not just that though. Instincts involves adductive reasoning which is outside the scope of classical logic. It's basically a best guess that cannot be proven or verified. You will always be left with doubt when using adductive reasoning.
Adductive reasoning is the true sign of intelligence. How well can you recall past experiences and use them to help you determine the best course of action currently on the fly. Inference is king no matter what any researcher might say.
Alex Jones and a hypnotist and researcher basically agree that the subconscious is around 100 times more powerful than your conscious mind. So listen to your "gut," and you can even question your subconscious directly with "autoquestioning." There's lots of methods, some take more time to work, the Chevreul(sp?) pendulum is the easiest. This is all proven and I've done it myself for self hypnosis purposes.
I think there's a lot of truth to that. Our school system has taught kids from day one to bury their instincts and "not to judge" but follow the leader. There are a lot of drawbacks to putting 20 kids all the same age in a classroom with one teacher. It teaches them to socialize only at their own level of maturity and to be obedient to the crowd and subservient to the authority figures. We have too many people who really do follow the herd but never really know that they are because they think that's the way things are.
I agree. Instinct is key but logic and reason are important. You just have to realize before it's too late that they will take you places that the leader isn't going. And that is often a good thing.
That's why I said rationalism which is a philosophy like emperism. Logic and reason are tools just like experience and intuition. Deduction is extremely limited in what you can use it for. AI doesn't use it for example, it uses induction, experience/statistics via machine learning, and a very limited form of abduction, educated guesses (instinct). Calculators and some automation use deductive logic. you can't even generate new knowledge with deduction. It really just allows you to falsify things or if you know your premises are true which is a whole debate in and if itself. You are just restating your premises, things that you believe are likely true through common sense, intuition, experience, observation, and ect. Induction on the other hand is applying the past to unknown events which leaves you vulnerable to black swans. Ex; All swans I've seen are white therefore all swans are white.
Those road barricades had lab coat's draped over them alongside a clipboard and pencil. Once the people trying to run from the fires saw that they realized that the barricades were there "for their protection" and obediently turned around and drove back home to their on-fire house.
Materialism, in all its forms, is one of the greatest evils of our time. Which is saying something, because it has a lot of competetion in the "greatest evils" department.
I would imagine it would be for any construction worker but if you watched the vids that came out of Maui, one in particular, the guy in the car is live streaming early on and he's upset because the police have closed the roads and all these cars are basically traveling in a circle around the inside of the city. It's not a worker man that has closed the road but the police. Why did the police do that? My guess is they had been taught, that evacuating residents only causes a traffic jam because that's what happened during a hurrican that occurred in Florida a few years back. Since then, authorities have pushed that incident as if it was a new way of managing crisis.
I don't really remember every bit of the incident, but it was a fairly large city in Florida but not Miami. The authorities told the people to leave the city because a hurricane was going to land there but there was a few hours to go. So a lot of people went home, packed up cars, hooked up trailers and started to leave. Most of them didn't make it more than ten miles from their houses before the hurricane hit. The reason why was because every went to gas station to get gas, people ran out of gas while leaving and so their cars were stalled on major highways. Emergency vehicles couldn't get in and out of the area so a couple of people died in their cars on the highway. Some people after about 12-24 hours just abandoned their cars. Thieves came and started breaking into cars, especially ones that seemed like they were loaded up with valuables etc. A few fights happened etc.
So the super smart rule of thumb for emergency workers and police now, is to prevent clogged roads because it took weeks to clear the roads in Florida after that incident. however, this city in Maui shouldn't have had that problem. 1) the population wasn't in the hundreds of thousands like the large city in Florida. 2) People were trying to escape the fire and fires are more localized, not like hurricanes in which they twist and turn and go this way and that way and are hard to predict. 3) the city wasn't locked up - meaning, the city in Florida had one major highway in which people could get out of the city. This smaller city in Maui had several ways and several directions in which people could leave. As people left, they would disperse, unlike the people in Florida that ended up hitting a bottle neck on the highway.
Also, the story of the Florida bottle necked highway catastrophe has been dumbed down to "get people off the roads so emergency responders can come and go" so my guess is what the police were doing was trying to clear the roads for the fire trucks. Fire trucks that never came because they were denied access to water for five hours and by that time, the blaze was incinerating everything including the people in the cars going around in a circle. They probably asphyxiated in their cars while going around in the circle and thus preventing others who were still alive from getting out. Eventually, their cars and bodies were burnt up from the heat and the traveling ground fire. Maybe from the bottom up so they didn't really even see it coming for them. Maybe even the ground melted their tires and made movement impossible. I don't know any of that. That's just my speculation. The point is, none of these conditions existed in the florida anecdote that gave rise to this idea of not evacuating people because it'll just clog roads and create a bottle neck.
Now, this is true for almost all major cities. Frankly, in a major disaster, if you aren't out of the big cities in the first 20 minutes like a city such as NYC, Chicago, LA, ya know, a big locked city with few entrances and exits, you aren't going to make it out. Not in a car and not by foot and not by boat. First, no one is going to be running boats that can be swamped when a million people are wanting to get on board to save their lives. The roads will be completely useless when the first car breaks down and that'll be within about twenty minutes if millions are trying to leave. Even air isn't going to do it because too many will already have the bright idea to do that too and it would be impossible to take off or land. It'd be like Kabul but in the hundreds of thousands instead of a few thousand. however, no city in Maui is like this. Most cities aren't like this because there are several ways in and out and the population isn't super duper dense. For instance, Kansas city could clear out within a few hours. Same with Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Cincinnati etc. The populations are more manageable and there's more than one way out. Furthermore, these cities often have areas around the highways in which cars that don't work can be pushed off. This isn't all that true with places connected by bridges and tunnels.
Floridians keep full tanks when hurricanes are near. They know their evac routes and stay off interstate highways. I've evacuated FL many times with traffic never being an issue. If an emergency hurricane evacuation caused total gridlock it was carefully planned and timed to do so.
The easier task is probably to eliminate people the presumably dead using banking/credit card data showing they're alive (or someone is using their card) than it is to identify the actual dead. And, on a darker note, the FBI is the probably the natural go-to for forensic identification of 900 bodies burned beyond recognition.
My headcanon is that Mulder's sister was child trafficked (Martha's Vineyard) and while the monsters are real, the alien/smoking man are an elaborate psyop designed to play on Mulder's insecurity and implanted memories.
If you have an apartment building and lock the doors during a structure fire, you are liable for the deaths of those individuals - and can even be charged with manslaughter or murder.
Seems as though government officials who do the same thing but on a city level should be just as liable.
Critical thinking hasn't been taught in schools for decades, and now there are several generations who don't know how.
Being disobedient to authority figures because it's the right thing to do takes courage too, and a lot of people are cowards. But if it concerns the lives of your family and yourself, that's definitely the time to step up and do what's best for them. What the police did in Maui was immoral and possibly illegal, and we are going to see more of this kind of thing in the future.
Everyone needs to teach their kids that authority isn't always right and what to do then. Some things to discuss might be how to deal with pressure at school to do things behind the parents back like get jabbed, transitioned, or keep secrets for groomers.
That is exactly what I was thinking. The "captain" told the passengers to stay in their cabins as the boat was sinking... and then he and some of the crew left to be rescued and I think they were the first ones to be rescued. The kids and passengers who didn't listen and left their cabins were the ones who survived.
Bone doesn't burn. Funeral homes have special machines to grind skeletons into powder after a cremation, that's what makes up most of the content of an urn. If 1000 people died in that fire, then there will be 1000 scorched skeletons laying in the ashes.
Bone absolutely does burn, it just takes longer or higher temperatures and depends on the bone. Smaller bones will burn easier than larger ones. Take density into account as well.
Bone will burn even in a regular campfire or fire pit; it just takes time and keep adding logs or whatever to keep the fire going until the bone is ash. This is a fact.
You should try it with a large bone from a beef and see for yourself.
Yeah, keep adding logs. Something that won't happen in a wildfire, nobody is steadily adding fuel to make sure everything burns easily. Look at pictures of after a wildfire and notice that tree trunks are scorched on the outside but didn't burn, all the easily burnt fuel was consumed before the flames got intense enough.
Now anyone who died in or next to an electric car was likely fully consumed, those batteries burn long and hot. Anyone else, at least the large bones should be left.
This reminds me of a video Razorfist did a few months ago on that Korean ferry disaster that drowned a ton of high schoolers. While Razor is hinting at the vax here, I think the lesson is applicable for this and many other situations.
That is exactly what I was thinking. The "captain" told the passengers to stay in their cabins as the boat was sinking... and then he and some of the crew left to be rescued and I think they were the first ones to be rescued. The kids and passengers who didn't listen and left their cabins were the ones who survived.
IMO it's all for a land grab. Similar situation with Native lands that happened in Barbuda after Irma. See below. Land that was given to native peoples. How to get around that? Get rid of them. https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/robert-de-niro-barbuda-hotel-hurricane-irma/
And yes, DeNiro and his pervert friends WERE successful and built their resort on those lands that had been granted to the people of Barbuda.
Woah just like those who ignored the clot shot mandates. Nobody has died from defying the governments order to take an experimental gene modification drug. Imagine that.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4166222-maui-residents-who-disobeyed-barricade-survived-fires-ap-reports/
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The way so many of them just mindlessly obeyed the barricades and turned around to drive right into the flames is a real testament to how “blue” that place is.
The herd mentality is something to behold, but I feel kinda bad for the sheep because they were brainwashed into it. Hard to feel anger toward victims.
I only have mercy on the children. Kids are innocent.
Hate the sin, not the sinner
No mercy on libtards. Not now. Not ever.
These are the same people who mindlessly had themselves and their children jabbed and boosted. They'll do whatever the government tells them to do as long as the welfare checks keep coming.
Truth^
For some reason the government decides to just kill them instead of telling them to be productive. If I had a bunch of people that blindly loyal to me, I wouldnt be wasting their lives in such a way.
Stupid people are more dangerous than evil people. I stopped having sympathy for them completely after COVID.
Camus said it fairly well: "Neither victims nor executioners."
They're in a dangerous twilight between consciousness and the well of souls which constitutes in aggregate the group's more feral behavior.
yea but I bet 90% would fight against the brainwashing and yell at you going against it. Sad, but they got what they wanted.
It's Asians in general.
In 2016 there was a Korean ferry accident that eventually lead to several students deaths because they followed orders and stayed in their cabins waiting for rescue that never came. Only those that disobeyed those orders survived.
They all fall into a hive mind mentality and never deviate from it through their entire lives. Hence why the CCP and other Asian dictatorships have been easily able to maintain power.
All crowds are retarded. That's why you'd have to be braindead to find yourself inside of one. Asians often live in high density configurations, so they're always in a crowd, and in some cases it's actually become part of their self image.
stop virtue signaling. the other guy is right. i'm asian and agree they are hive minded and think that conforming and listening to orders is being "good"
But the explanation of constantly living in a crowd with very little private room makes sense.
what flavor of asian are you? maybe you're just one of the crappy ones?
Alex Jones has said something sort of similar to that about Asians, and he's seen enough and read enough history to know. I've seen it in an Asian YouTube couple.
"I've seen it in an Asian YouTube couple"
Which one?
Mxrplays, Henry and Jeannie
Oh yeah. Definitely seen it there. They're fun, but holy shit they exhibit serious issues in thinking.
I have seen an Asian CEO
Theres a reason stereotypes exist,
It's not mindless.
How am I supposed to know which way is dangerous?
I don't assume the emergency people blocking a way because it's "dangerous" are wrong. I have no other information.
But like the Twin Tower folks who evacuated when told to stay put. . . those who disobeyed chose wisely. I won't blame, AT ALL, the people who minded. They were not "stupid." They were in a panic situation and had to go on what info they had.
Have a preparation plan that extends beyond "I really hope the government gives me good advice when I need it!"
Do you live in your home, or do you just occupy it while distracting yourself with the internet?
It's a wildfire. Unless these people were blind they could see which direction they needed to evacuate, and were trying to do so. I'd wager high money many of the compliant were also COVID fakevaxxed multiple times.
As a former wildland firefighter, I can assure you, smoke & panic changes everything.
As a former Ireland wildfighter, I can assure you, once the tires ignite, abandon the vehicle
I've never dealt with fires, but did spend eight years on disaster containment and cleanup teams. Yes, there are always some that totally freak -- but has there ever been a documented case of entire groups of people running into flames in response to sirens?
You should ALWAYS panic and flee. When they say don't panic, they are full of shit. the dawdlers in the trade center who kept going back for stuff, dawdling in the stairwell, they died. I've read some good books on why some people flee and some don't, and some run into danger to save people. I've learned even if you are the type that wouldn't ordinarily take flight, you can change you mindset knowing the odds of survival are much greater.
This is why they didn't set off the tsunami sirens. The sirens mean get away from the coast and get inland. If they set off the sirens, people would have escaped. Officials say they were concerned they would escape straight into the fire, but that was not true, the opposite happened. Those that left and got through the barricades survived. Those that didn't, did not survive.
"We were afraid those trapped by an active wildfire would suddenly assume it had morphed into a tsunami. ".
Sounds reasonable.
Considering most are jabbed, I can see this being true!
Those sirens are also for wildfires, nuclear attack, and other things. Wildfires is listed in their siren manuals.
It may be that people always go away from the coast, but 99% of them will also check their phone to see what is going on.
How about that EAS texting system they fucked up and scared people into thinking there was a missile headed at them? How about fuckin use that and warn people at your earliest convenience King Oahu
Almost like how the government is pushing an unsafe clotshot and the sheep got scared and followed the government orders and now have problems
Yep. I’d bet everyone who turned around back towards the flames was fully vaccinated.
Now imagine an electric future. The problem is gasoline is bad after 6 months, and no one will be able to build a refinery. Electric cars are going to murder people during disasters.
TFW your Chevy Bolt sacrifices you to Moloch
More like the government will shut it down the minute you push through the barricade to kill you.
Probably before that. They will disable everyone's car so that there isn't "gridlock" and "panic" or something.
That's why those cars that can turn into boats will start selling like pancakes on Maui now.
I'm waiting for manslaughter charges on the democrat official who refused to blow the siren and the other democrat official who denied water. They need to be in prostrate pounding prison.
Approximately 10,000 acres of Hawaii burn every year. Fires are an expected norm.
The tsunami sirens in Hawaii are never used for a fire warning. Instead, wireless emergency alerts (WEA) and the Emergency Alert System (EAS) are used for fire warnings.
Oh bullshit. They are permitted for fire use. In fact, the official that nixed using them just quit ("health" reasons). If they weren't allowed for that use, there would have been no discussion. Instead, he decided they should not be used because some people might mistakenly move toward the fire.
For whatever reason, the wireless alert system was either not used or the system was down. I'm not sure why, but people weren't getting messages on their cell phone.
So, it was decided to not use the warning sirens because it would be better for people to shelter in place because they might be too stupid to move away from the fire. One option is let people know, with the smal possibility some might go the wrong way, and the other option is to just not them know so they all die? That's fucked up. I can't believe you're making this sound as business as usual.
Old Sen. Kennedy once bought one of the early models, said it was a real lemon.
The Moloch thing has more gravitas.
I've had ethanol-free gas last a long time (like 4 years before I rotated it out). Also, consider diesel as an option (harder now).
I've heard that algae oil (non druggie hemp is 2nd) is the best for making biodiesel. That might be needed in the future.
Non ethanolated is only about 6 months. Of course, you can run piss in a low compression Briggs and Stratton motor. Get fuel stabilizer and you can get any type to last a couple years.
I had an 80s ford truck run off 5 year old gas just by throwing a new battery in it "shrugs shoulders"
I read about how a family escaped the fires in California on bicycles, so I have also prepared that method of escape. Ebikes are becoming cheaper now and could also be charged with solar. Even if you trust the government, emergency preparedness requires multiple evacuation routes. I could not imagine relying on a car I have to plug in for any emergency
*Idk why the word "evacuation" was removed, but I put it back
My uncle was a spook in DC, he had dirtbikes for the family incase SHTF. Cars are going to be caught in the gridlock, some form of 2 wheel is the way to go.
Whoa! Dude, I was looking for a good reason to give the wife as to why we need a motorcycle.
*two motorcycles.
"You don't run faster than a bear. You run faster than your friend."
Yup. 1 for him and his daughter, 1 for his wife. Two motorcycles!
Or, you know, get one and practice because it's fun AF....
Also super dangerous. I imagine most people that get into motorcycle accidents that cause serious injury or death weren't at fault, but rather someone else ran into them. Saw it happen to plenty of people over the years.
If you live near flowing water it'd probably charge much faster using a portable underwater generator. I forget what they're called but you just place it in the water facing a certain way.
Not only can and will the Gov't turn your elecTRICK vehicle off, or Geofence it at a barricade, but it turns into a horizontal TOXIC FLAMETHROWER in wildfire conditions like on Maui.
Ask Tesla, and other makers that GPS track these things how many actually lit up in Maui.
While you're at it, ask them how many Power walls and other house batteries did the same thing.
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
The more I learn about this fire the more I get pissed.
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Trust your instincts and flee when you think you need to. Those who obey orders to stay in place, do not end up well. The reason why low level officials, police and firemen etc say to "stay in place" is to prevent panic or to prevent unmanageable crowds. Everything in their training causes them to want to control people more than to ascertain the threat level. They think the threat level is a "wait and see" thing and in the meantime, while the catastrophe is unraveling, they are betting they have time, it's not that big of a deal and other emergency responders will get it under control. They have everything they are trained to do working against them and you. Trust your own gut and if you think you need to get out of there - get out of there. It's important to understand that in a fluid, threatening situation, your best bet is not to stay put and hunker down but to move.
Same thing happened at the towers on 9/11. Many were told to shelter in place, go back to their offices…the ones who defied orders survived!
And the shooting at Uvalde - where the mother went and got her children, after being handcuffed by the cops. She wasn't going to obey and let her children be put in harm's way.
Fuck those cops.
Let's be reasonable. Fuck most cops
Nope, it's all or nothing. If there were any reasonable cops we wouldn't be here. Fuck every last one of them.
The bigger the death toll the bigger the anger of the people
Rationalism has made people doubt their own intuitions, common sense, and instincts because they can't be explained with logic and reason in a way that aligns with a purely materialistic world view.
If they looked into what causes intuition, they might not be so silly. Your brain makes calculations that you are consciously unaware of, and that does not make them less significant.
It's not just that though. Instincts involves adductive reasoning which is outside the scope of classical logic. It's basically a best guess that cannot be proven or verified. You will always be left with doubt when using adductive reasoning.
Adductive reasoning is the true sign of intelligence. How well can you recall past experiences and use them to help you determine the best course of action currently on the fly. Inference is king no matter what any researcher might say.
Yeah it's the driving force behind insight
Good man. Rock on, brother.
Alex Jones and a hypnotist and researcher basically agree that the subconscious is around 100 times more powerful than your conscious mind. So listen to your "gut," and you can even question your subconscious directly with "autoquestioning." There's lots of methods, some take more time to work, the Chevreul(sp?) pendulum is the easiest. This is all proven and I've done it myself for self hypnosis purposes.
I think there's a lot of truth to that. Our school system has taught kids from day one to bury their instincts and "not to judge" but follow the leader. There are a lot of drawbacks to putting 20 kids all the same age in a classroom with one teacher. It teaches them to socialize only at their own level of maturity and to be obedient to the crowd and subservient to the authority figures. We have too many people who really do follow the herd but never really know that they are because they think that's the way things are.
It isn't logic and reason that caused this - it's blind trust in authority figures.
I agree. Instinct is key but logic and reason are important. You just have to realize before it's too late that they will take you places that the leader isn't going. And that is often a good thing.
That's why I said rationalism which is a philosophy like emperism. Logic and reason are tools just like experience and intuition. Deduction is extremely limited in what you can use it for. AI doesn't use it for example, it uses induction, experience/statistics via machine learning, and a very limited form of abduction, educated guesses (instinct). Calculators and some automation use deductive logic. you can't even generate new knowledge with deduction. It really just allows you to falsify things or if you know your premises are true which is a whole debate in and if itself. You are just restating your premises, things that you believe are likely true through common sense, intuition, experience, observation, and ect. Induction on the other hand is applying the past to unknown events which leaves you vulnerable to black swans. Ex; All swans I've seen are white therefore all swans are white.
Good points.
Rationalism is not reason. In fact, its quite an unreasonable philosophy
Well that's the problem on induction isn't it? Turkey and the farmer.
Those road barricades had lab coat's draped over them alongside a clipboard and pencil. Once the people trying to run from the fires saw that they realized that the barricades were there "for their protection" and obediently turned around and drove back home to their on-fire house.
Materialism, in all its forms, is one of the greatest evils of our time. Which is saying something, because it has a lot of competetion in the "greatest evils" department.
Safety trumps orders, all the time. Ask any work or road crew.
I would imagine it would be for any construction worker but if you watched the vids that came out of Maui, one in particular, the guy in the car is live streaming early on and he's upset because the police have closed the roads and all these cars are basically traveling in a circle around the inside of the city. It's not a worker man that has closed the road but the police. Why did the police do that? My guess is they had been taught, that evacuating residents only causes a traffic jam because that's what happened during a hurrican that occurred in Florida a few years back. Since then, authorities have pushed that incident as if it was a new way of managing crisis.
I don't really remember every bit of the incident, but it was a fairly large city in Florida but not Miami. The authorities told the people to leave the city because a hurricane was going to land there but there was a few hours to go. So a lot of people went home, packed up cars, hooked up trailers and started to leave. Most of them didn't make it more than ten miles from their houses before the hurricane hit. The reason why was because every went to gas station to get gas, people ran out of gas while leaving and so their cars were stalled on major highways. Emergency vehicles couldn't get in and out of the area so a couple of people died in their cars on the highway. Some people after about 12-24 hours just abandoned their cars. Thieves came and started breaking into cars, especially ones that seemed like they were loaded up with valuables etc. A few fights happened etc.
So the super smart rule of thumb for emergency workers and police now, is to prevent clogged roads because it took weeks to clear the roads in Florida after that incident. however, this city in Maui shouldn't have had that problem. 1) the population wasn't in the hundreds of thousands like the large city in Florida. 2) People were trying to escape the fire and fires are more localized, not like hurricanes in which they twist and turn and go this way and that way and are hard to predict. 3) the city wasn't locked up - meaning, the city in Florida had one major highway in which people could get out of the city. This smaller city in Maui had several ways and several directions in which people could leave. As people left, they would disperse, unlike the people in Florida that ended up hitting a bottle neck on the highway.
Also, the story of the Florida bottle necked highway catastrophe has been dumbed down to "get people off the roads so emergency responders can come and go" so my guess is what the police were doing was trying to clear the roads for the fire trucks. Fire trucks that never came because they were denied access to water for five hours and by that time, the blaze was incinerating everything including the people in the cars going around in a circle. They probably asphyxiated in their cars while going around in the circle and thus preventing others who were still alive from getting out. Eventually, their cars and bodies were burnt up from the heat and the traveling ground fire. Maybe from the bottom up so they didn't really even see it coming for them. Maybe even the ground melted their tires and made movement impossible. I don't know any of that. That's just my speculation. The point is, none of these conditions existed in the florida anecdote that gave rise to this idea of not evacuating people because it'll just clog roads and create a bottle neck.
Now, this is true for almost all major cities. Frankly, in a major disaster, if you aren't out of the big cities in the first 20 minutes like a city such as NYC, Chicago, LA, ya know, a big locked city with few entrances and exits, you aren't going to make it out. Not in a car and not by foot and not by boat. First, no one is going to be running boats that can be swamped when a million people are wanting to get on board to save their lives. The roads will be completely useless when the first car breaks down and that'll be within about twenty minutes if millions are trying to leave. Even air isn't going to do it because too many will already have the bright idea to do that too and it would be impossible to take off or land. It'd be like Kabul but in the hundreds of thousands instead of a few thousand. however, no city in Maui is like this. Most cities aren't like this because there are several ways in and out and the population isn't super duper dense. For instance, Kansas city could clear out within a few hours. Same with Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Cincinnati etc. The populations are more manageable and there's more than one way out. Furthermore, these cities often have areas around the highways in which cars that don't work can be pushed off. This isn't all that true with places connected by bridges and tunnels.
TLDR. Just babbling and typing out loud.
Floridians keep full tanks when hurricanes are near. They know their evac routes and stay off interstate highways. I've evacuated FL many times with traffic never being an issue. If an emergency hurricane evacuation caused total gridlock it was carefully planned and timed to do so.
okay.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1361920921000924
And persistence trumps talent - every time.
The book "The Gift of Fear" is a decent read.
I just read a couple of reviews on it. Seems interesting. Thank you for the suggestion.
Good advice
FBI? Why is the FBI involved?
Weird, right?
The question I've had since it was announced that the FBI was setting up those mobile morgues last week.
The easier task is probably to eliminate people the presumably dead using banking/credit card data showing they're alive (or someone is using their card) than it is to identify the actual dead. And, on a darker note, the FBI is the probably the natural go-to for forensic identification of 900 bodies burned beyond recognition.
Aleins did it, Mulder & Scully are working the case
My headcanon is that Mulder's sister was child trafficked (Martha's Vineyard) and while the monsters are real, the alien/smoking man are an elaborate psyop designed to play on Mulder's insecurity and implanted memories.
Holy shit.
Staatssicherheit.
Must be some kids to abduct
This is why I'll be disobeying mask and vax mandates.
If you have an apartment building and lock the doors during a structure fire, you are liable for the deaths of those individuals - and can even be charged with manslaughter or murder.
Seems as though government officials who do the same thing but on a city level should be just as liable.
What tools are best to escape in that situation? E.g crowbar and sledgehammer.
In modern buildings, if you’re inside trying to get out, just open the door. The hardware only locks people out not in.
It pays off to be disobedient. We need to teach kids to question and not blindly follow anyone in authority.
There's no absolute, critical thinking is what matters
Not so much being disobedient as think for yourself and not following the herd unquestioningly.
Part of the reason the elites have managed to gain so much control is because they understand how to control people through herd mentality,
Critical thinking hasn't been taught in schools for decades, and now there are several generations who don't know how.
Being disobedient to authority figures because it's the right thing to do takes courage too, and a lot of people are cowards. But if it concerns the lives of your family and yourself, that's definitely the time to step up and do what's best for them. What the police did in Maui was immoral and possibly illegal, and we are going to see more of this kind of thing in the future.
Everyone needs to teach their kids that authority isn't always right and what to do then. Some things to discuss might be how to deal with pressure at school to do things behind the parents back like get jabbed, transitioned, or keep secrets for groomers.
That is exactly what I was thinking. The "captain" told the passengers to stay in their cabins as the boat was sinking... and then he and some of the crew left to be rescued and I think they were the first ones to be rescued. The kids and passengers who didn't listen and left their cabins were the ones who survived.
At least the captain paid for his crime. Life imprisonment.
Why are they still saying only a 100 people died?
To minimize their responsibility until the news cools down.
Yup. Death counter will start going up after the next big thing relegates the Maui fire to page 5 or 6.
Yea if they're still missing after this long.....
How can you even count your dead when you have bums and illegals staying there off record. Not just in Maui but, anywhere.
So they can classify them as "covid deaths" to hype up the next variant
Is FEMA hiding all the bodies? Why else is this taking so long? 1000 missing but we all know they are dead.
They don't have to, the bodies were incinerated by the fires
What they want you to believe. The elites are growing bored with constantly dining on latin american kids
Too spicy
The more they try to interfere on the part of child trafficking the more I believe. I said adrenochrome was nonsense a few years ago, I was wrong.
What if they didn't send the kids home and just snatched them from school? Does anyone know if they ever made it home?
You would think they would have kept them in school for kidnapping convenience, but anything goes.
That's creepy, like Pennywise down in the sewers.
Bone doesn't burn. Funeral homes have special machines to grind skeletons into powder after a cremation, that's what makes up most of the content of an urn. If 1000 people died in that fire, then there will be 1000 scorched skeletons laying in the ashes.
Bone absolutely does burn, it just takes longer or higher temperatures and depends on the bone. Smaller bones will burn easier than larger ones. Take density into account as well.
As a maker of bone & blood meal, you are correct
Technically true, but if a crematorium doesn't reach that intensity, then I highly doubt a wildfire will.
Bone will burn even in a regular campfire or fire pit; it just takes time and keep adding logs or whatever to keep the fire going until the bone is ash. This is a fact. You should try it with a large bone from a beef and see for yourself.
Yeah, keep adding logs. Something that won't happen in a wildfire, nobody is steadily adding fuel to make sure everything burns easily. Look at pictures of after a wildfire and notice that tree trunks are scorched on the outside but didn't burn, all the easily burnt fuel was consumed before the flames got intense enough.
Now anyone who died in or next to an electric car was likely fully consumed, those batteries burn long and hot. Anyone else, at least the large bones should be left.
WTF are you on about. I merely refuted the false claim that bone doesn't burn. It most certainly does. I am not talking about the Maui fire. FFS.
Then we'll know what happened depending on what remains they find.
They want to turn it into "that thing that happened a few news cycles ago".
Dead or trafficked?
1000 missing for two weeks on a small remote island. They're trying to slowly creep up the death toll but we all know.
Best way to survive: do the opposite of what the government tells you to do.
Works in every circumstance!
Unless it's stock trades. In that case, match them dollar for dollar.
9/11, when the first tower was hit, many people in the second tower were told to stay in place and not evacuate.
Saw of video of people sent back towards danger by police. They ended up abandoning their car and going in the ocean to avoid the fire.
The police chief was also the same guy who led the response (cover up) to the Las Vegas shooting.
What a coincidence.
I need a source on this please! I need to go red pill some bitches.
https://patriots.win/p/16c2Mnt18b/x/c/
This reminds me of a video Razorfist did a few months ago on that Korean ferry disaster that drowned a ton of high schoolers. While Razor is hinting at the vax here, I think the lesson is applicable for this and many other situations.
https://youtu.be/3vxEKE2IqGo?si=qgeo4MwgbYT0YeX3
That is exactly what I was thinking. The "captain" told the passengers to stay in their cabins as the boat was sinking... and then he and some of the crew left to be rescued and I think they were the first ones to be rescued. The kids and passengers who didn't listen and left their cabins were the ones who survived.
If the government cannot GREATLY profit off of your existence, they want you to DIE.
The government wanted as many people possible dead.
This was an extermination event.
IMO it's all for a land grab. Similar situation with Native lands that happened in Barbuda after Irma. See below. Land that was given to native peoples. How to get around that? Get rid of them.
https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/robert-de-niro-barbuda-hotel-hurricane-irma/ And yes, DeNiro and his pervert friends WERE successful and built their resort on those lands that had been granted to the people of Barbuda.
And it happened right before some planned globalist event about AI controlled cities, I think the WEF even said they were going to make one in Hawaii.
Them: Get back to down to your steerage quarters. Everything will be fine. Sheeple: Um, okay.
Disobeying the government is a good survival strategy in general.
Whatever you do when the disaster occurs where you are do not go where the government tells you to go.
"Zig when others Zag" applies to many things in life.
Remember, stupid laws are to be ignored - your life may depend on it!
https://patriots.win/p/16c2DPRmaW/no-mass-shootings-during-indicta/c/
Sort of like COVID and hydrochloriquin and ivermectin
Woah just like those who ignored the clot shot mandates. Nobody has died from defying the governments order to take an experimental gene modification drug. Imagine that.
Imagine that. If it were me I would have rammed the shit out of the barricade with my full size truck that pulls 10k with a ram bar on the front.
FBI? Why? What were the interstate crimes? Are they admitting it was arson by the smart meters?
What a hole would block ppl in?
One that wants to seize land without a fight.
Pure Skins and Pure Bloods unite! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Dafuq is going on with this fire???
This doesn't sound good for them. Makes it look like an intentional act by the government to slaughter these people.
This is a total replay of the California "wildfires".
Look at those pesky people ignoring the experts and living. Shameful behavior.
Basically, the key to survival is to do the exact opposite of what the Biden regime says to do.
Why would you even close the road? It’s a fire not a pothole.
CRIMINAL. CHARGES.
"Unaccounted for". They're dead. Why are they trying to downplay the numbers?
Unbelievable... there's a small chance they're (somewhat) alive and being raped as we speak.
90s me would have just assumed they were burned up 100%
Those who disobeyed vax mandate survived the WEF depopulation efforts.