My father showed me the clip, highlighted by blaze TV no less, where Trump said to negotiate with the left on abortion. Now, having read this, and knowing how he exposed the swamp (which is why they've gone rabid), I see the plan. Get them to the table, make them admit to what they really want, and show the world.
Yes. Their power is their media system. It covers up a lot of what they are up to. No one supports killing a healthy child in the fourth trimester. Most simply do not know this is happening. Or they have been censored or silenced/threatened by leftists.
I'm only interested in a secular approach and discussion on media or banking. I consider any other approach to be absurd, ignorant, poorly timed, or racist.
No. All these institutions are controlled by people with a common interest in maintaining wealth and power. Their religious convictions are various and irrelevant. It's a Leftist way of thinking to always be blaming 'muh white man' or 'muh Jew'. Every human being is an individual with a free choice between good and evil and will be judged as such.
this is why republicucks give up gun rights every year. left keeps moving inch by inch and our side surrenders like wimps. even now some governor bitch bans carry, uproar, limits ban to parks… republicucks concede. fail party.
100% agree. The frog in the boiling water approach works every time on them. Trump exposed this in 2016.
He needs to NOT negotiate or make deals. He needs to go fire and brimstone. They want him (and us) dead. He needs to respond with uncompromising strength and not succumbing to their demonic agenda.
The only kind of negotiating we should be doing is to give them something they already have in return for a lot of what we want but don't yet have. The dems pull this grift on us all the time, it's time to return the favor.
As much as I dislike abortion I know that in 2024 any GOP presidential candidate that runs on the platform of passing a national heartbeat bill after we spent decades saying that the states should decide pre-Dobbs will lose in a landslide to even the shittiest Dem. Sadly, some of these women love their abortion on demand. Biden's handlers already posted a screenshot of Trump's Truth stating that he was responsible for Roe v Wade going away on his X account.
The Ron simps that say Trump should be disqualified as nominee for his comments are only thinking about short term. Trump wants to get us at a better position morally while their all-or-nothing approach will give us nothing. Dems get full power and we'll be powerless while watching them pass laws legalizing the abortions that Ralph Northam approves of.
Trump didn't expose the swamp. Everyone who didn't need to change their voter registration to vote for him already knew who was in the swamp. They were labeled as rinos which literally means they are a democrat who ran as a republican.
The 2016 campaign was even based on it by him saying he was going to drain the swamp. Pay attention. Draining the swamp doesn't mean exposing. He did neither.
The issue has went back to the states where it belongs. Trump has no authority to negotiate anything. The only thing that comment says is he believes he's a king and can do what he wants and he can't.
The op is leaving two other posts that came before the one listed here and the ones that came before was him trying to make excuses for his abortion comments to which he did nothing but make it worse.
Have you ever seen a swamp? Looks kind peaceful, until you drain it and find all the snakes, and man eating alligators, which get extremely pissed off because their cover is blown. Draining the swamp doesn't eliminate the bad stuff there. It exposes it for all to see. Not just for those that already know what's there when the water is still present.
Nice analogy, but it still doesn't excuse the fact he endorsed the creatures within it every election and even after they assisted in stealing the presidency from him.
If you can't stomach a man that makes mistakes, you might not be cut out to have friends. It's gonna get lonely it that ivory tower after a while, fren.
I'm not trying to be insulting here but are you gay? Like any hetero dude understands that abortion like after a few months is a bad idea, but nobody in their right mind wants to be forced to raise a kid just because the condom broke.
I'm assuming you are one of those guys that thinks getting pussy is evil? lmao. We really need to build a time machine and ship people like you off to the 1700's so you can finally be happy.
The issue with that is that most people aren't going to stay chaste until they are ready to start a family. And having children as a teenager isn't a very good idea. But there are ways to prevent a pregnancy in the early stages without resorting to abortion.
Yah I'm sure you're really happy with that weird ass logic you have going on. My gripe is, young men are going to see your post and ruin their lives over your moronic ideals.
Once the sperm enters the egg it becomes a whole separate living human being- it shows all 7 scientific signs of life and has a whole, separate, unique, wholly human genetic code. There's no moral difference between killing the person at that point than at 9 months pregnancy, and no difference between the previous two examples and killing the kid at 9 years old. Birth control can fail- if you would sooner kill the kid than put it up for adoption then don't stick your dick in her.
There's no moral difference between killing the person at that point than at 9 months pregnancy, and no difference between the previous two examples and killing the kid at 9 years old.
This is where the majority of the country disagrees with you.
A fertilised egg is a unique human.
If left to it's own devices it will become a baby in 9 months.
Morally there's no difference between day 1 and month 8.
It's alive, it has it's own DNA and it will be a fully functional individual given time.
We don't devalue those with mental conditions, and we don't devalue people who are unconscious, so being conscious does not have a bearing on how we morally view an individual. A zygote is morally the same as a knocked out person, both are not currently conscious, both cannot defend themselves and both will eventually become conscious given time.
If you think it's morally wrong to kill an unconscious person, then you should logically think it's wrong to kill a baby in the womb. Regardless of it's development.
Seems like human life would begin at consciousness, which is like 20 weeks in. I don't think because something simply has human DNA, that it is a human. For example if I scratch off a flake of skin, nobody would consider that to be a human being.
I don't think, the scientific evidence proves. If you think I'm wrong then tell me a point where human life begins and provide stronger scientific evidence, as opposed to going on about your feels.
Seems like human life would begin at consciousness, which is like 20 weeks in. I don't think because something simply has human DNA, that it is a human. For example if I scratch off a flake of skin, nobody would consider that to be a human being.
It’s a zero sum game. Also consider that the left will easily convince everyone else that pro lifers don’t care what happens after the baby is born. You won’t even get the chance to protect more lives because you’ll lose a really shitty stupid argument you deserve to win. The reality is that abortion should not be a high priority issue for conservative
I like to say "if we didn't abort them then we could let gay couples adopt them" (I'm totally against that too btw). But it makes zero sense to support abortion saying no one will want those kids when the waiting list for a newborn to adopt is very long.
You can flip the script and make it sound like they're denying gay couples the right to raise children.
I just completely disagree with you that it's a losing issue and we shouldn't be involved. I'm not a conservative because I just want my taxes lowered. Those conservatives are faggots. I want to live in a country that puts God first.
As we've seen with state ballots and god knows how many surveys and polls, the bulk of the country wants abortion legal with restrictions. Full abortion bans and no restriction abortion both have minority support.
Trump is absolutely right about this. For the first time in my entire life, they have to negotiate with pro-lifers. From 1973 to the Dobbs decision, both political parties could treat us like we didn't exist. RINOs just lied to us for votes about their pro-life positions.
Democrat scum will use the issue of killing babies to upset dumb liberal females to rage vote. I fucking hate anyone that votes for this instead of the economy.
Like I read before,it's the one thing they will not show on TV or movies. They show murders, gore, shootings, all types of mutilation, but never an abortion. Because it would change minds.
He was attacking DeSantis just last week in the Megan Kelly interview for signing the six-week abortion ban law, saying it was "terrible." Of all the things to go after DeSantis for, that abortion law ain't one of them.
Pretty much this. Just like when he has to pretend to be deeply religious to win over Evangelicals. He even took Pence on board because of this and we all know how well that went.
Turns out 30 Pence was the one pretending to be religious. Whatever President Trump’s religious beliefs are, they are at least sincere. I think his position is we can save some of the babies or none of the babies so better to allow for a few exceptions and save some than to try to save all with these heartbeat rules and end up losing elections and saving none.
With all due respect Mr. President, let's not ignore the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th months either. 3rd should be the absolute limit, but that's just my opinion.
Trust me, if you are pro-life you want this man marketing your cause
He is a marketing genius. And let's face it, thr pro life moment has been dumb and ineffectual.
You put all your eggs in George W's basket and he wouldn't let u in the WH or even attend thr March for Life
Trump did. And he got rid of Roe.
Trump makes average men, who are afraid of upsetting their daughters or wives, more likely to talk about abortion but more so Trump talks about life and children.
He is a father who cherishes his kids and grand kids and he talks about both people invovled in abortion. But let him market.
The soul of created beings is not preexistent, so it does not "enter" at any point. The soul is one with the body and begins developing at conception along with the body. Human death (even natural) is tragic because it severs the soul from the body. This problem will be resolved with the resurrection of the dead, where the soul is reunited with a physical body that's either fit for eternal life with Christ, or fit for eternal suffering for those who don't want to be ruled by him.
My father showed me the clip, highlighted by blaze TV no less, where Trump said to negotiate with the left on abortion. Now, having read this, and knowing how he exposed the swamp (which is why they've gone rabid), I see the plan. Get them to the table, make them admit to what they really want, and show the world.
Yes. Their power is their media system. It covers up a lot of what they are up to. No one supports killing a healthy child in the fourth trimester. Most simply do not know this is happening. Or they have been censored or silenced/threatened by leftists.
Their power is in the media system?
What are you going to say next, that their power is in banking institutions?
Isn't that a bit anti semitic?
I'm only interested in a secular approach and discussion on media or banking. I consider any other approach to be absurd, ignorant, poorly timed, or racist.
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No. All these institutions are controlled by people with a common interest in maintaining wealth and power. Their religious convictions are various and irrelevant. It's a Leftist way of thinking to always be blaming 'muh white man' or 'muh Jew'. Every human being is an individual with a free choice between good and evil and will be judged as such.
Seems like a great idea until it becomes clear that the left has no desire to negotiate.
They’d probably be more willing to negotiate with the babies they’re killing more than us.
It isn't about the negotiation. It's about getting them to admit what they want on the record.
They already have admitted that, over and over again.
But their low info followers; generational democrats, not this generation, the one before it, don't know that.
this is why republicucks give up gun rights every year. left keeps moving inch by inch and our side surrenders like wimps. even now some governor bitch bans carry, uproar, limits ban to parks… republicucks concede. fail party.
100% agree. The frog in the boiling water approach works every time on them. Trump exposed this in 2016.
He needs to NOT negotiate or make deals. He needs to go fire and brimstone. They want him (and us) dead. He needs to respond with uncompromising strength and not succumbing to their demonic agenda.
The only kind of negotiating we should be doing is to give them something they already have in return for a lot of what we want but don't yet have. The dems pull this grift on us all the time, it's time to return the favor.
Americans DO NOT SUPPORT late term abortions....
Trump knows that .. and will use it.
Dems know it ... and avoid the issues at all cost.
The problem is that neither late term abortions nor total abortion bans are widely popular.
What a sick and depraved society we live in.
Average American: "Sometimes you need to murder innocent people, so try to do it before they get too old."
As much as I dislike abortion I know that in 2024 any GOP presidential candidate that runs on the platform of passing a national heartbeat bill after we spent decades saying that the states should decide pre-Dobbs will lose in a landslide to even the shittiest Dem. Sadly, some of these women love their abortion on demand. Biden's handlers already posted a screenshot of Trump's Truth stating that he was responsible for Roe v Wade going away on his X account.
The Ron simps that say Trump should be disqualified as nominee for his comments are only thinking about short term. Trump wants to get us at a better position morally while their all-or-nothing approach will give us nothing. Dems get full power and we'll be powerless while watching them pass laws legalizing the abortions that Ralph Northam approves of.
Late Term Abortion is 'Partial Birth Abortion' and few American support that.
Pro Life groups can get a ton of support on this particular issue.
Ah! "The Plan"...
I know😐, I thought the same thing as I was typing it.
Trump didn't expose the swamp. Everyone who didn't need to change their voter registration to vote for him already knew who was in the swamp. They were labeled as rinos which literally means they are a democrat who ran as a republican.
The 2016 campaign was even based on it by him saying he was going to drain the swamp. Pay attention. Draining the swamp doesn't mean exposing. He did neither.
The issue has went back to the states where it belongs. Trump has no authority to negotiate anything. The only thing that comment says is he believes he's a king and can do what he wants and he can't.
The op is leaving two other posts that came before the one listed here and the ones that came before was him trying to make excuses for his abortion comments to which he did nothing but make it worse.
Have you ever seen a swamp? Looks kind peaceful, until you drain it and find all the snakes, and man eating alligators, which get extremely pissed off because their cover is blown. Draining the swamp doesn't eliminate the bad stuff there. It exposes it for all to see. Not just for those that already know what's there when the water is still present.
Nice analogy, but it still doesn't excuse the fact he endorsed the creatures within it every election and even after they assisted in stealing the presidency from him.
If you can't stomach a man that makes mistakes, you might not be cut out to have friends. It's gonna get lonely it that ivory tower after a while, fren.
Are you against the heartbeat bills?
I'm not trying to be insulting here but are you gay? Like any hetero dude understands that abortion like after a few months is a bad idea, but nobody in their right mind wants to be forced to raise a kid just because the condom broke.
Wait just a minute. Did you guys just assume that only women get pregnant? Oh my. I just cant. /s
I'm assuming you are one of those guys that thinks getting pussy is evil? lmao. We really need to build a time machine and ship people like you off to the 1700's so you can finally be happy.
The issue with that is that most people aren't going to stay chaste until they are ready to start a family. And having children as a teenager isn't a very good idea. But there are ways to prevent a pregnancy in the early stages without resorting to abortion.
Yah I'm sure you're really happy with that weird ass logic you have going on. My gripe is, young men are going to see your post and ruin their lives over your moronic ideals.
Imagine being so much of a manbaby pussy you'd kill your own child rather than raise it.
It's strange cause you type like a dopey dumbass, but usually those types aren't also such pussies.
Wtf lmao? You sound like you’re am obese incel. I am willing to bet you’re physically unattractive and RARELY get any physical intimacy from women. 😂
I'm not the one pretending you should have to raise a kid every time you have sex lol.
Once the sperm enters the egg it becomes a whole separate living human being- it shows all 7 scientific signs of life and has a whole, separate, unique, wholly human genetic code. There's no moral difference between killing the person at that point than at 9 months pregnancy, and no difference between the previous two examples and killing the kid at 9 years old. Birth control can fail- if you would sooner kill the kid than put it up for adoption then don't stick your dick in her.
This is where the majority of the country disagrees with you.
Doesn't make their beliefs true.
This is the dumbest thing I've read. So you think just because you bust a nut that it means another person is suddenly in the room?
A fertilised egg is a unique human. If left to it's own devices it will become a baby in 9 months. Morally there's no difference between day 1 and month 8. It's alive, it has it's own DNA and it will be a fully functional individual given time.
We don't devalue those with mental conditions, and we don't devalue people who are unconscious, so being conscious does not have a bearing on how we morally view an individual. A zygote is morally the same as a knocked out person, both are not currently conscious, both cannot defend themselves and both will eventually become conscious given time.
If you think it's morally wrong to kill an unconscious person, then you should logically think it's wrong to kill a baby in the womb. Regardless of it's development.
Seems like human life would begin at consciousness, which is like 20 weeks in. I don't think because something simply has human DNA, that it is a human. For example if I scratch off a flake of skin, nobody would consider that to be a human being.
I don't think, the scientific evidence proves. If you think I'm wrong then tell me a point where human life begins and provide stronger scientific evidence, as opposed to going on about your feels.
Seems like human life would begin at consciousness, which is like 20 weeks in. I don't think because something simply has human DNA, that it is a human. For example if I scratch off a flake of skin, nobody would consider that to be a human being.
Nobody is forced. Have you ever heard of adoption? Or just straight abandonment? You can drop the baby at any fire station or hospital
Not the man's choice if it's going to be put up for adoption
What's your point? Because it's also not a man's choice to abort or not.
Yes, we do want that.
Choose life, liberty and opportunity. That is what makes America great.
Yes, but unfortunately permitting the unborn to be born into an environment that breeds criminality doesn’t advance society either
Murdering the innocent will never advance society.
It’s a zero sum game. Also consider that the left will easily convince everyone else that pro lifers don’t care what happens after the baby is born. You won’t even get the chance to protect more lives because you’ll lose a really shitty stupid argument you deserve to win. The reality is that abortion should not be a high priority issue for conservative
I like to say "if we didn't abort them then we could let gay couples adopt them" (I'm totally against that too btw). But it makes zero sense to support abortion saying no one will want those kids when the waiting list for a newborn to adopt is very long.
You can flip the script and make it sound like they're denying gay couples the right to raise children.
I just completely disagree with you that it's a losing issue and we shouldn't be involved. I'm not a conservative because I just want my taxes lowered. Those conservatives are faggots. I want to live in a country that puts God first.
Sure. But why campaign on it? Effectuate change while simultaneously drumming and gauging support once you’ve landed in office
Probably because a huge % of the population is not okay with abortion especially with no restrictions.
As we've seen with state ballots and god knows how many surveys and polls, the bulk of the country wants abortion legal with restrictions. Full abortion bans and no restriction abortion both have minority support.
We aren't playing a game, we aren't arguing to score points. Killing babies is wrong. It's a priority issue because it's fucking evil.
Terraform that environment into something less conducive to criminality.
It’s going to need to be completely demo’d first 💥
When can we start?
That's a leftist talking point.
You don't think black people should have kids?
We need to negotiate nothing it's now a state issue end of story just say that
Trump is absolutely right about this. For the first time in my entire life, they have to negotiate with pro-lifers. From 1973 to the Dobbs decision, both political parties could treat us like we didn't exist. RINOs just lied to us for votes about their pro-life positions.
They will die for late term abortion. It’s a sacrament to them.
Then let them die.
They are a death cult, after all.
Yea we don’t hear much from Heavens Gate anymore
Black lives matter -- unless they're unborn or newly born, then skin color's irrelevant.
BLACK ABORTIONS MATTER
Democrat scum will use the issue of killing babies to upset dumb liberal females to rage vote. I fucking hate anyone that votes for this instead of the economy.
The economy is second to me. Freedom and liberty first. Fuck the economy if we aren't free within that economy.
True
"Muh economy" is the reason everyone is in this mess in the first place.
Let's offer these bimbos $100k to carry the child to term. We'll have these women's lib psychos back in the kitchen in no time
There’s nothing they care about more than their “right” to be G-d.
It’s “THEIR” democracy. Which means they don’t want Maga to have anything to do with it.
Leftists have ZERO morals. They have no qualms about committing any horrors and atrocities in the name of “progress”.
Now what about the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th months..... and even before that, too.....
Like I read before,it's the one thing they will not show on TV or movies. They show murders, gore, shootings, all types of mutilation, but never an abortion. Because it would change minds.
its a tactic to get the left to say the quiet part out loud. freaking genius.
the mercy of the wicked is cruel
He's just whipping his base. Trump ran as pro-choice in '96 and nobody noticed. I don't think he actually cares that much about this issue.
He was attacking DeSantis just last week in the Megan Kelly interview for signing the six-week abortion ban law, saying it was "terrible." Of all the things to go after DeSantis for, that abortion law ain't one of them.
Pretty much this. Just like when he has to pretend to be deeply religious to win over Evangelicals. He even took Pence on board because of this and we all know how well that went.
Turns out 30 Pence was the one pretending to be religious. Whatever President Trump’s religious beliefs are, they are at least sincere. I think his position is we can save some of the babies or none of the babies so better to allow for a few exceptions and save some than to try to save all with these heartbeat rules and end up losing elections and saving none.
Ohio has a pro-death constitutional amendment on the ballot in November.
Updoot for plain speaking.
Trump knows better. Joe and Kamala aint in charge of jack shit.
Abortion should only be illegal for some ladies, not all.
I believe that sending the decision down to the states was a brilliant SCOTUS ruling. It lets people decide.
That's true.
We get to see how depraved the people of each individual state are.
Not sure if you've noticed which way the ballot measures are swinging in states, but the opposite is happening.
The phrase you are looking for is - PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.
Lack of exposure isn’t the problem. It’s lack of consequences.
They’re a satanic death cult
O GEO. There is no negotiation with anti-life. There is only overwhelm...
This should end any controversy about Trump's stance on this issue
He got THIS ONE right!
So much for the women vote in 2024 if we even make it to Nov 4
Didn’t Trump say DeSantis “heartbeat law” which prevents abortions at any stage… was “a terrible terrible mistake” 😔
What would a law like that do to the rate of false rape accusations?
It’s not the baby’s fault.
With all due respect Mr. President, let's not ignore the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th months either. 3rd should be the absolute limit, but that's just my opinion.
12 weeks. Maximum.
Not good enough. A soul is a soul.
Trust me, if you are pro-life you want this man marketing your cause He is a marketing genius. And let's face it, thr pro life moment has been dumb and ineffectual. You put all your eggs in George W's basket and he wouldn't let u in the WH or even attend thr March for Life Trump did. And he got rid of Roe. Trump makes average men, who are afraid of upsetting their daughters or wives, more likely to talk about abortion but more so Trump talks about life and children. He is a father who cherishes his kids and grand kids and he talks about both people invovled in abortion. But let him market.
Didn't he just say that the 6 week ban was too extreme?
So the soul enters before the 5th month?
Yes
The soul of created beings is not preexistent, so it does not "enter" at any point. The soul is one with the body and begins developing at conception along with the body. Human death (even natural) is tragic because it severs the soul from the body. This problem will be resolved with the resurrection of the dead, where the soul is reunited with a physical body that's either fit for eternal life with Christ, or fit for eternal suffering for those who don't want to be ruled by him.
Tell Trump that
Why didn't you post the part where he essentially says his abortion views are based on if it will win an election?
That’s NOT what he said!
Yes it is. Just because it doesn't appear here doesn't mean it didn't happen.