This. They would rather each and every senior citizen who worked their whole life to build the country they're destroying die in the ditch before giving up gibs for their welfare enslaved voting class.
EXACTLY - Fed workers should look forward to the paid time off and if working, quit bitching because you're getting paid - and even your bill collectors will extend deadlines if necessary.
Last shutdown, Fed workers were fighting to be on the furlough list. After that, the Uniparty forced a law that said all the Feds would get back pay no matter what. Before it was not 100% that the furloughed would get back pay, most of the times they did, but that new law said they would be paid regardless.
This shutdown, Feds will be fighting even harder for the free leave uh my mistake, furlough status.
There is another law that President Trump should use regarding shutdowns. In the event the government is shutdown for I believe 36 days, the President can RIF everyone on the furlough list with no further action and not have to bring them back. Easy way to clear out the agencies.
The solution - A stand alone funding bill that does not include funding items that would never receive support on their own. In other words daily legislative BLACKMAIL.
Bring back the line item VETO idea. Then require shortening the bills to something that can reasonably be read by the Congress without lobbyists. No more voting on legislation written OUTSIDE OF CONGRESS. NO MORE, "you have to pass it to see what's in it."
I'm not in favor of a line item veto...That's a neocon relic from the 80s that, thankfully, died long ago... but they absolutely need to be voting on single issue bills. At minimum, packages that are homogeneous and congruent.
Gaetz had it right when he said the spending bill needs to be broken up into smaller bills that are voted on. the viability of and amount needs to be voted on with whatever deals are made being made on the house floor not in the back room and kept secret till its release and an up and down vote. on everything.
The line item veto only seems like a good idea when your party controls the Executive Branch. It's probably not a good idea even then. I mean, RINOs do RINO things after all.
Exactly. Completely blows up the ability of the legislative branch to deliberate and is a clear erosion of separation of powers that obviates the need for a deliberative legislature, further weakening the republic by consolidating power in the executive, etc etc.
All socialism is. Socialists are just too stupid to realize they are Communists.
Both are too stupid to recognize they are useful idiots of SUPREMACISTs who want too rule.
But stupid old people don't deserve to die on the streets like wild dogs in a civilized society.........unless that society has now become the psychopaths that the SUPREMACISTs are.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. The Pentagon already said the money faucet for Ukraine will keep running during a shutdown so the biggest thing we’re trying to stop will continue and they can keep laundering money.
They pre-fund a lot of stuff like that. Which, in normal times with sane, ethical people at the helm, would be a good thing but, of course these assholes are going to keep pumping Ukraine.
Not directly related to this, but ever hear about the CIA's financials? Supposedly, they've got massive amounts of cash and investments around the globe. You could completely defund them and they could still operate independently for an unknown duration. Here again, makes sense on some above board levels, but these are not above board people and this isn't great where accountability is concerned.
Remember the “liquid trees” (or whatever it exactly was) they were experimenting with in that one city? NY I believe. Vague I know, but your glowing chinchilla comment reminded me of how retarded it was lol
The problem is the Dems will make it EXCRUCIATING, as they always do...
Money will continue to flow to Ukraine, but VA patients will be kicked off dialysis machines...
Drag queen karaoke hour for kindergarteners will be unaffected, but food safety inspections will cease...
Illegals crossing the border will still be handed cell phones and cash, but 90 year old veterans in wheelchairs will be blocked from visiting Arlington...
And the media will highlight the latter, and blame MAGA Republicans every step of the way.
Remember that shit when they turned the WW2 vets away from the museums after the Freedom Flight foundation or whatever they are called flew them there? They make a big masturbatory show of all of it.
This might get you started in the right direction. Obama admin ordered some overlooks closed on some scenic highways in 2013. I tried to strip out the tracking info and it broke the link.
It funny how the government grifters only care about costs when the government actually lowers the cost of government by temporarily slowing down some of its perpetual growth
Wish DJT would've kept his government shutdown going one more day, then he would've been able to fire every swamp creature at will. Well, only employees within a certain classification, but still.
We all know they're going to cave an give Democrats a blank check for everything they could ever possibly want. I'd prefer we default. Drop government to a skeleton crew an rebuild without all the nonsense debt, medicaid / medicare, social security, pensions, etc. The sooner they admit nothing they setup works the sooner the next generations will have a chance to do more than just keep their head above water.
I have reminded my lefty "friends" innumerable times that they would not survive in the world they're leasing us to. Societal collapse, anarchy, nuclear war... I tell them I was born to survive and thrive in chaos like that yet its the last thing I'd ever want to see in my lifetime. They live off of handouts and a worldview that can only exist with an establishment coddling them, the moment it dissapears they would just shut down.
Leftists are only united in their love of free-gibz from the government (ie from the hardworking people they all despise). Cut that off and they destroy each other and their own communities within a few weeks.
By the way, there has been Government shutdowns in the past, but the press looked for the worst hardships from the shutdown and ignored the waste and extravagance as would be expected from a Socialist Propaganda wing of the oppressors.
Gotta love how they try to tug your heart strings and get it passed because of the funding for the Hawaii wildfires. But they don't tell you the funds for Hawaii are held ransom for 3x+ the amount for Ukraine
Shut it down! Let's see how they buckle when the welfare state is suspended.
Illegals no funding? No problem
Social programs for the lazy? No problem
No science experiments to see if chinchillas can glow in the dark? No problem.
You can do eeeeet!
First thing they do is delay social security checks just to get all the normies screaming.
This. They would rather each and every senior citizen who worked their whole life to build the country they're destroying die in the ditch before giving up gibs for their welfare enslaved voting class.
They don't care about them, either. It's entirely about the threat to the parasite apple cart....Federal employee welfare.
I'm a Fed employee.... I will still be going to work, but not getting paid ,during a shutdown.
I am not a fan of the idea of a shutdown, but if we need it to stop the omnibus bill shit that's been going on for 20+ years then it needs to happen.
EXACTLY - Fed workers should look forward to the paid time off and if working, quit bitching because you're getting paid - and even your bill collectors will extend deadlines if necessary.
Do you not get back pay when everything goes back?
Yes, but I still have to show up to work unlike the people who make silly money.
We all get back pay, but not all of us still have to commute to work, do work etc....
The people sitting home not doing shit during a shut down should not receive a dime of back pay.
Last shutdown, Fed workers were fighting to be on the furlough list. After that, the Uniparty forced a law that said all the Feds would get back pay no matter what. Before it was not 100% that the furloughed would get back pay, most of the times they did, but that new law said they would be paid regardless.
This shutdown, Feds will be fighting even harder for the free leave uh my mistake, furlough status.
There is another law that President Trump should use regarding shutdowns. In the event the government is shutdown for I believe 36 days, the President can RIF everyone on the furlough list with no further action and not have to bring them back. Easy way to clear out the agencies.
W.
I agree.
The current crop of seniors deserves nothing but scorn, so that works even better for me.
The solution - A stand alone funding bill that does not include funding items that would never receive support on their own. In other words daily legislative BLACKMAIL.
Bring back the line item VETO idea. Then require shortening the bills to something that can reasonably be read by the Congress without lobbyists. No more voting on legislation written OUTSIDE OF CONGRESS. NO MORE, "you have to pass it to see what's in it."
I'm not in favor of a line item veto...That's a neocon relic from the 80s that, thankfully, died long ago... but they absolutely need to be voting on single issue bills. At minimum, packages that are homogeneous and congruent.
It was only tried at the State level. Never the National level,
Gaetz had it right when he said the spending bill needs to be broken up into smaller bills that are voted on. the viability of and amount needs to be voted on with whatever deals are made being made on the house floor not in the back room and kept secret till its release and an up and down vote. on everything.
The line item veto only seems like a good idea when your party controls the Executive Branch. It's probably not a good idea even then. I mean, RINOs do RINO things after all.
Exactly. Completely blows up the ability of the legislative branch to deliberate and is a clear erosion of separation of powers that obviates the need for a deliberative legislature, further weakening the republic by consolidating power in the executive, etc etc.
Which, of course, meant the neocons loved it.
All socialism is. Socialists are just too stupid to realize they are Communists.
Both are too stupid to recognize they are useful idiots of SUPREMACISTs who want too rule.
But stupid old people don't deserve to die on the streets like wild dogs in a civilized society.........unless that society has now become the psychopaths that the SUPREMACISTs are.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. The Pentagon already said the money faucet for Ukraine will keep running during a shutdown so the biggest thing we’re trying to stop will continue and they can keep laundering money.
They pre-fund a lot of stuff like that. Which, in normal times with sane, ethical people at the helm, would be a good thing but, of course these assholes are going to keep pumping Ukraine.
Not directly related to this, but ever hear about the CIA's financials? Supposedly, they've got massive amounts of cash and investments around the globe. You could completely defund them and they could still operate independently for an unknown duration. Here again, makes sense on some above board levels, but these are not above board people and this isn't great where accountability is concerned.
Chasing laundered money down dank sewers leads to some interesting places all over the World. Underground warfare is slow and unpleasant I hear.
Social security checks don't stop with a government shutdown at least I'm not aware of that
They aren't supposed to because they are supposed to already be funded, but they manage to gin up the drama about it when this happens.
Social Security most likely won't exist in 14 years. The funds are projected to run out by 2037.
And theres no way to restructure things to solve the problem because you can't piss off the boomers.
Again.
No DEW to start more fires? No ability to buy up all the land they exterminated people to acquire?
Lahaina is the second most expensive real estate on the planet, behind only London. Those figures surprised me.
I would expect the far east to be more expensive too. I've read it from a couple sources. I won't vouch that either is correct.
I'm willing to forgo my disability that some call welfare and I call insurance. But we have to get their attention.
ps I have no other form of income or ability to produce such, so this is serious. I can't even get up from my knees anymore, much less off the ground.
Social security checks are automatic and will not stop with a government shutdown. It's just like taxes don't stop coming in when it's shutdown..
Special Lightening ?
Remember the “liquid trees” (or whatever it exactly was) they were experimenting with in that one city? NY I believe. Vague I know, but your glowing chinchilla comment reminded me of how retarded it was lol
They were algae tanks, for anyone wondering.
A tree grows in Brooklyn.
In a test tube, lol.
Good idea if it was placed somewhere it wouldn't be instantly destroyed
Like a vape pen?
No but I'm googling that shit right now lol
I would love if they'd dooooooo eeet!
The problem is the Dems will make it EXCRUCIATING, as they always do...
Money will continue to flow to Ukraine, but VA patients will be kicked off dialysis machines...
Drag queen karaoke hour for kindergarteners will be unaffected, but food safety inspections will cease...
Illegals crossing the border will still be handed cell phones and cash, but 90 year old veterans in wheelchairs will be blocked from visiting Arlington...
And the media will highlight the latter, and blame MAGA Republicans every step of the way.
Remember that shit when they turned the WW2 vets away from the museums after the Freedom Flight foundation or whatever they are called flew them there? They make a big masturbatory show of all of it.
Remember when Obama ordered a highway closed to traffic because the drive overlooked a scenic national park?
You got a source for this? Don't remember it and wanna read on it
https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/government-shutdown-causes-surprising-closures
This might get you started in the right direction. Obama admin ordered some overlooks closed on some scenic highways in 2013. I tried to strip out the tracking info and it broke the link.
Yeah we need to not care about their lying bullshit.
It's the SWAMPian way. I used to say DEMONkRATS way, but the GOP (Go alOng Party) is even worse.
It funny how the government grifters only care about costs when the government actually lowers the cost of government by temporarily slowing down some of its perpetual growth
I remember a long time ado they calculated a 2% growth in funding was "really" 0 budget growth and that was 40 years ago.
I feel like I’ve heard this for every spending bill for the last 10 years that ultimately gets passed full of pork
Yup. Prepare for Republicans to "reach across the aisle" again at the expense of American tax payers.
The eternal cabal
It's literally the same exact thing over and over and over and over again
Hahahaha! They only mention Maui when the government is shutting down funds to Ukraine, otherwise they haven’t mentioned Maui in a month 😂
What a bunch of drama queens. No one cares if you stop paying a bunch of useless gov deadbeat employees.
They get all their backpay anyway.
At least they can't create any more problems while they are on leave.
Exactly!
Wish DJT would've kept his government shutdown going one more day, then he would've been able to fire every swamp creature at will. Well, only employees within a certain classification, but still.
I've lived in DC my whole life. The government shuts down every Friday.
Don't forget every national holiday.
I like the doublespeak. Spending no money in 8 days (inaccurate, but let's pretend) is COSTLY.
Maybe there are late fees or something lol.
Yeah. It's the opposite of costly.
We all know they're going to cave an give Democrats a blank check for everything they could ever possibly want. I'd prefer we default. Drop government to a skeleton crew an rebuild without all the nonsense debt, medicaid / medicare, social security, pensions, etc. The sooner they admit nothing they setup works the sooner the next generations will have a chance to do more than just keep their head above water.
I have reminded my lefty "friends" innumerable times that they would not survive in the world they're leasing us to. Societal collapse, anarchy, nuclear war... I tell them I was born to survive and thrive in chaos like that yet its the last thing I'd ever want to see in my lifetime. They live off of handouts and a worldview that can only exist with an establishment coddling them, the moment it dissapears they would just shut down.
Imagine calling a shutdown of our rapacious and overspending Government "costly".
At this point, it should be viewed as saving money.
I'm confused about the "Safe-T Act". Is that where trans don't visit elementary schools for a whole month, or is it where they put on stage shows?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/22/us-braces-calamitous-costly-government-shutdown-eight-days/
Of course they would find funds for illegals. They have found funds for Ukraine.
There is also continued checks for retirement including social security and government retirement plans.
Also - don't be surprised if Congress continues to get paid. As one representative said last time "I've got a mortgage to pay"
Imagine an indefinite fed shutdown. I could only get so erect 🍆
Leftists are only united in their love of free-gibz from the government (ie from the hardworking people they all despise). Cut that off and they destroy each other and their own communities within a few weeks.
No funds to stop people who take the law into their own hands?
Brace? What should I do? Board up the windows? Pile up sandbags or curl up in a ball and cry?
Does it shut down airports?
The air traffic controllers will probably call in sick and shut down alot of air travel.
Sure, now they care about wildfire victims…..
By the way, there has been Government shutdowns in the past, but the press looked for the worst hardships from the shutdown and ignored the waste and extravagance as would be expected from a Socialist Propaganda wing of the oppressors.
👌😉
Burn it down!
"US braces for the cost of not having the government waste their tax dollars" yeah ok retard
I am begging for a shutdown but deep down I know it's not going to happen
I’m in Illinois and would welcome this proposal as a price paid for greater good
I used to be as well. Still lots of based people I know here and would agree. Not so much the Socialist in Chicago.
Gotta love how they try to tug your heart strings and get it passed because of the funding for the Hawaii wildfires. But they don't tell you the funds for Hawaii are held ransom for 3x+ the amount for Ukraine
Sets it on fire, and let it burn itself out.
How will they be able to continue sending billions to Ukraine with a government shutdown. I'm sure they'll find a way.
TIL it’s costly to not spend money.
Wait, it costs more when the Government shuts down? Do they get double time for being at home?
2 Million Federal Employees dont get paid. But ya know the Top are Covered.
Donors removed E Verify from HR2 Border Security Resolution. It's all fake. Shut it down!
They should turn it off until we are back to the constitution being the only law
Shut it down. We will save money
Arson