True, their situation is brutal, their assets in the US were seized, the sanctions they are under prevent them from buying medicine, refining parts, refining fuels.
It doesn't have nearly as much to do with sanctions as it does to do with the fact the price of oil was really high at one point and they started spending money like crazy thinking the price of oil was always going to be high. They siezed a good chunk of the factories there around the same time and ran them in the ground but kept them afloat with oil money. They guaranteed a job to everyone that paid really well, creating a multitude of useless positions in companies that didn't need those positions, but they subsidized those jobs with oil money. Then the price of a barrel of crude dropped significantly, and they kept spending the same amount. That's what fucked their economy.
I agree, that was quite a while ago. Without the sanctions they might have been able to get their act together. The fact they have held together as long as they have given with the sanctions restrictions is to their credit.
I don't think the sanctions helped, but the big problem is they basically reduced everything down to a dependency on their oil exports since oil money was paying for everything else. When you have one export that is funding everything, and the price drops significantly on that one export, you're screwed.
It's kind of interesting that guy writes about the sanctions when the Biden regime sent people to Venezuela to beg for oil a year or so ago.
I think you miss the point. They are starving and have no money because their country is run by a communist dictatorship who would rather try to prop up a long disproven economic system thought up by a useless eater who would have been put up against the firing squad wall.
Venezuela used to be a successful country only two decades ago. Now it's a failed state which can trace its failure back to those worthless government gibs being peddled by a psychopath.
Literally Runescape gold is worth more and more stable, and shittons of people there spend all day working Runescape.
Gee, Venezuela stole US assets by "nationalizing" them. They told our agg companies to make cereal for their people below the cost to manufacture. The Venezuelan shithole government confiscated firearms and go figure they then used their police and army to attack protesters who had no way to defend themselves.
Venezuela is a shithole communist nation state that steals everything from its people to enrich its leaders. Fuck Venezuela. Let Venezuela burn. The last thing you want to do is enrich a communist nation in our hemisphere.
Actually, about 20 years ago their president was assassinated after he told Haliburton and IMF to fuck off with their globalist loan and pressure tactics. The globalist then installed a puppet to drive the country into the ground so they could get unfettered access to all that delicious oil. Socialism probably would have made them trip over themselves at some point, but Dick Cheney and the gang were able to flush that country down the drain much faster. It was easy money for them.
Well it's clearly working. One thing that they may have overlooked. Venezuela is a long time ally of Russia.
If a possible goal of the Biden cartel is to bring these people here to have them vote for Dems, I wonder if the Venezuelan govt may be sending people who will vote for Republician to help Russia?
I worked on an engineering project for PDVSA pre Chavez, I have never seen such poverty, ever. And I have done a lot of work in pretty rough places.
The people who worked with me who were Venezuelan all said they were prisoners in their homes because of the crime and that the crime was caused by poverty. The wife in the family we stayed with flew to Miami each week to shop for food. She said there was nothing in the local stores.
I saw people killed on the road when their car broke down, watched cars stripped in minutes down to the frame. We had a fully armed military escort when we were doing the work, the location we worked at had armor plated shielding and armed guards.
To me it was a hellhole, with some well to do people on top. We backed out of the project because we felt the govt was too unstable. The revolution was a year later.
If the revolution screwed up, I wasn't there for that.
Venezuela has huge oil resources, their economy collapsed because of commie central planning taking on massive debts leveraged against the price of oil. When the price of oil dropped their primary export was no longer worth enough to keep propping up the commie system.
They leave Venezuela socialism just to bring it to the US. The invasion continues and the US will never be the same. What follows is tyranny with a crack down on patriots (like J6 arranged by Pelosi to take down Trump). Venezuelans are more welcome in socialist US then citizens.
People fleeing communism don't tend to vote for it a second time. Joe Biden mass deported Venezuelans, and only Venezuelans, twice last year. That's why this situation makes no sense at all to me. Maduro recently emptied the prisons and sent them North, but I would think a bunch of those prisoners were of a political nature.
It just bizarre that the Biden regime rounded up all the Venezuelans they could find and deported every one of them, not once, but twice last year - but now they're rolling out the red carpet for them.
Wasn't there stories of Venezuelan migrants throwing a fit at Mexico for "only" giving them beans/tortillas for food? I think it was from DailyMail. If true, they sure sound entitled and have not shunned the "gibs me dat" mentality of socialism.
It's kind of fucked up when you think about it. You flee your Communist country. A leftist NGO transports you, feeds you, and so on from South America up through to the United States. You get to the United States, and even though one of the actual things that's supposed to be a reason for asylum is fleeing communism, your group is singled out and mass deported. You're not deported to your home country, which is probably a bad idea because "Communism". Instead, they just drop you off across the border in Mexico.
"We are proud Venezuelans who love our country! But don't send us back there because it's literally hell on earth... do you want us to die?! How can you be so inhumane??"
Flag of Venezuela: the top yellow stripe is ONE THIRD of the height. Blue stripe contains a bow of small stars, which are hard to see due to image compression.
Shooting them? How about hunting down the cartels that are bringing them here? How about bombing every single fucking building theyre operating out of. How about sending national guard in every major US city where these cartels have taken root, and anhilating them?
They'll be incorporated into BLM, and it'll be just like LGBT eventually, where eventually the abbreviation has so many letters nobody can keep track of what it's supposed to be anymore.
Oh, and I did the most important thing to prepare for Riots. Moving out of leftist cities. Also got plenty of guns and ammo of course (which I had to scramble for early 2020), but it's better to not need to test the local jury pool.
Speaking of which, it might not be a terrible idea to stock up even more, ammo prices might quickly double (or 4x) again when the 2024 riots start.
BS most of them are out from Venezuela years ago. I friend of mine in Miami, ran into a Venezuelan who was living free in Argentina, which a job and renting, he moved here with the family, because he wanted to earn more money. He flew to Mexico and crossed the border walking, as a "refugee".
The fact that they don't see how that could come across shows their mindset.
If I felt the need to flee my home country because I was being oppressed or even because of war, why would I feel the need to fly my home countries flag? Surely if I was to fly any flag it would be if the country that I'm trying to get into/is generous to let me in? It doesn't make any sense... unless all the conspiracies are true
Aw, hell no. The UN should not have ANY say in who enters the USA. This gives those people some great seal of approval, which will be used in court during The Great Send Back. It is also ceding sovereign US authority to the UN.
Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador all have a flag divided into thirds with colors of yellow blue red from top to bottom. But on Columbia's flag, the yellow is half the flag. Those three stripes look equally sized to me. Ecuador's flag has a coat of arms. Venezuela's flag has a small band of stars which could easily disappear into that image artifacting. The article claims it's the venezuela flag. You'll need to post proof it isn't.
There are no stars on that flag and the yellow looks a little bigger to me in the pictures. There is no way the Venezuelan flag would not have the stars on it.
But there is definitely no coat of arms, and the yellow is not top half. Given how small and miss-able the stars are, unless you can prove otherwise, that looks like a venezuela flag to me. Maybe the flag was homemade. Maybe it's the flag of the peopl who oppose Chavez. Maybe Venezeula can't afford to put stars on their flag anymore.
Colombia does not have a coat of arms. Only Ecuador does. I can prove the stars are not there by looking at all the pictures and videos available. The people who oppose Maduro still put stars on the flag.
I know columbia doesn't. But columbia's stripes are shaped differently. Again, the yellow is fully half of the flag, and that flag right there is not half yellow.
I've seen Colombian flags that aren't precise about the width of the stripes. I have never seen a Venezuelan flag without the stars. I have seen a lot of both.
Imagine being such a piece of shit you flee your home country and travel thousands of miles to illegally enter another country for a better life, then when you get there you plant the flag of the shithole you left because it was a shithole.
Why don't they claim Venezuela though?
The government there wouldn't tolerate them and give them handouts
A hand out of the country into ours maybe.
Actually Venezuela does give a lot of handouts to its people but the US sanctions on Venezuela have pretty much destroyed the country.
They would have fallen without the help from China, Russia and more recently Iran
Venezuela is starving and their money is worthless.
True, their situation is brutal, their assets in the US were seized, the sanctions they are under prevent them from buying medicine, refining parts, refining fuels.
Plus it prevents ANY other nation trading with them for anything. https://medium.com/@alexshanvi/an-economic-analysis-of-u-s-sanctions-on-venezuela-7f6aaec8f817
Only because of the help from Russia, China, Iran as I mentioned have they survived.
It doesn't have nearly as much to do with sanctions as it does to do with the fact the price of oil was really high at one point and they started spending money like crazy thinking the price of oil was always going to be high. They siezed a good chunk of the factories there around the same time and ran them in the ground but kept them afloat with oil money. They guaranteed a job to everyone that paid really well, creating a multitude of useless positions in companies that didn't need those positions, but they subsidized those jobs with oil money. Then the price of a barrel of crude dropped significantly, and they kept spending the same amount. That's what fucked their economy.
I agree, that was quite a while ago. Without the sanctions they might have been able to get their act together. The fact they have held together as long as they have given with the sanctions restrictions is to their credit.
I don't think the sanctions helped, but the big problem is they basically reduced everything down to a dependency on their oil exports since oil money was paying for everything else. When you have one export that is funding everything, and the price drops significantly on that one export, you're screwed.
It's kind of interesting that guy writes about the sanctions when the Biden regime sent people to Venezuela to beg for oil a year or so ago.
I think you miss the point. They are starving and have no money because their country is run by a communist dictatorship who would rather try to prop up a long disproven economic system thought up by a useless eater who would have been put up against the firing squad wall.
Venezuela used to be a successful country only two decades ago. Now it's a failed state which can trace its failure back to those worthless government gibs being peddled by a psychopath.
Literally Runescape gold is worth more and more stable, and shittons of people there spend all day working Runescape.
Gee, Venezuela stole US assets by "nationalizing" them. They told our agg companies to make cereal for their people below the cost to manufacture. The Venezuelan shithole government confiscated firearms and go figure they then used their police and army to attack protesters who had no way to defend themselves.
Venezuela is a shithole communist nation state that steals everything from its people to enrich its leaders. Fuck Venezuela. Let Venezuela burn. The last thing you want to do is enrich a communist nation in our hemisphere.
Actually, about 20 years ago their president was assassinated after he told Haliburton and IMF to fuck off with their globalist loan and pressure tactics. The globalist then installed a puppet to drive the country into the ground so they could get unfettered access to all that delicious oil. Socialism probably would have made them trip over themselves at some point, but Dick Cheney and the gang were able to flush that country down the drain much faster. It was easy money for them.
The US elites want Venezuela to fail to drive its population here.
Well it's clearly working. One thing that they may have overlooked. Venezuela is a long time ally of Russia.
If a possible goal of the Biden cartel is to bring these people here to have them vote for Dems, I wonder if the Venezuelan govt may be sending people who will vote for Republician to help Russia?
Republicans are mostly neocons so I doubt it.
They already ate all the zoo animals.
You spelled CIA wrong
You spelled ciaberg wrong
its just a choencidence i keep noticing but i'm sure it's nothing and i'm nazing anything
Amen
I worked on an engineering project for PDVSA pre Chavez, I have never seen such poverty, ever. And I have done a lot of work in pretty rough places.
The people who worked with me who were Venezuelan all said they were prisoners in their homes because of the crime and that the crime was caused by poverty. The wife in the family we stayed with flew to Miami each week to shop for food. She said there was nothing in the local stores.
I saw people killed on the road when their car broke down, watched cars stripped in minutes down to the frame. We had a fully armed military escort when we were doing the work, the location we worked at had armor plated shielding and armed guards.
To me it was a hellhole, with some well to do people on top. We backed out of the project because we felt the govt was too unstable. The revolution was a year later.
If the revolution screwed up, I wasn't there for that.
True, but I think that if their socialist government fell, they would've ended up better. From fucking starving to just regular Latin American poor.
Maybe, but in the same situation perhaps they feel if our govt fell and their sanctions were gone, they would end up better :)
Venezuela has huge oil resources, their economy collapsed because of commie central planning taking on massive debts leveraged against the price of oil. When the price of oil dropped their primary export was no longer worth enough to keep propping up the commie system.
Venezuela had all these natural resources but didn't have the money to build refineries.
Step 1 Haliburton steps in and says they'll build those refineries for X Billion dollars and that the IMF will loan them the dough for it.
Step 2 IMF introduces terms into the loan that force the government to put certain policies into place that greatly impact the people.
Step 3 People revolt and elect new government that tells IMF and Halliburton to fuck off
Step 4 CIA assassinates new government and sets up puppet regime to do their bidding and take the blame for the woes of the country
Step 5 Send down dominion voting systems to make it look like the average citizen is to blame for voting in the same shitbags year over year.
Sound familiar yet? Its a favorite CIA playbook and why many countries hate the USA.
Which phase do you think the USA is in this playbook?
They leave Venezuela socialism just to bring it to the US. The invasion continues and the US will never be the same. What follows is tyranny with a crack down on patriots (like J6 arranged by Pelosi to take down Trump). Venezuelans are more welcome in socialist US then citizens.
People fleeing communism don't tend to vote for it a second time. Joe Biden mass deported Venezuelans, and only Venezuelans, twice last year. That's why this situation makes no sense at all to me. Maduro recently emptied the prisons and sent them North, but I would think a bunch of those prisoners were of a political nature.
It just bizarre that the Biden regime rounded up all the Venezuelans they could find and deported every one of them, not once, but twice last year - but now they're rolling out the red carpet for them.
Wasn't there stories of Venezuelan migrants throwing a fit at Mexico for "only" giving them beans/tortillas for food? I think it was from DailyMail. If true, they sure sound entitled and have not shunned the "gibs me dat" mentality of socialism.
There's this:
https://nypost.com/2022/10/16/venezuelans-expelled-from-the-us-vow-to-re-enter-illegally/
It's kind of fucked up when you think about it. You flee your Communist country. A leftist NGO transports you, feeds you, and so on from South America up through to the United States. You get to the United States, and even though one of the actual things that's supposed to be a reason for asylum is fleeing communism, your group is singled out and mass deported. You're not deported to your home country, which is probably a bad idea because "Communism". Instead, they just drop you off across the border in Mexico.
CIA won't allow it.
And they've got oil and gas.
Lots of it....and Socialism 👍
Why would the CIA let them do that?
"We are proud Venezuelans who love our country! But don't send us back there because it's literally hell on earth... do you want us to die?! How can you be so inhumane??"
“How can you be so inhumane??” It’s as natural to me as breathing… these invasive parasites sure as shit made it so.
It's the Colombian flag.
You are an idiot with a 0.000 batting record.
Flag of Colombia: the top yellow stripe is HALF of the height.
Flag of Venezuela: the top yellow stripe is ONE THIRD of the height. Blue stripe contains a bow of small stars, which are hard to see due to image compression.
Colombia: 🇨🇴
Venezuela: 🇻🇪
Article link with higher resolution photos:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559165/Venezuela-flag-rio-grande.html
== https://archive.ph/Vskno
It's clearly the flag of Venezuela.
Not seeing any stars.
Just start shooting them. It's so fucking simple. You don't even need a wall
Shooting them? How about hunting down the cartels that are bringing them here? How about bombing every single fucking building theyre operating out of. How about sending national guard in every major US city where these cartels have taken root, and anhilating them?
Unless you're joining the front lines who you think will do the dirty work?
The US Military, doing what its meant to do and PROTECT OUR BORDERS
bounty hunters?
Dog the bounty hunter?
I read that as booty hunters.
You must've missed his UserName. It checks out bigly.
Just open up a hunting season and end prosecution of murder if the murder is against invaders. Vigilante justice. Exterminate the cartels.
Here with popcorn before the “muh optics” people show up
I hope everybody is ready for the migrant riots in 2024.
Damnit, I still have my covid decorations up.
Damnit, I still hace mUh UkRaInE ZeLeNsKy decorations up
we are supposed to keep the george floyd tree up year round right?
I lost
Good call. BLM is probably too much of a mess to get it going like 2020 anymore.
That’s why migrants are being bused all of over the country. Literally moving assets right under our noses.
They'll be incorporated into BLM, and it'll be just like LGBT eventually, where eventually the abbreviation has so many letters nobody can keep track of what it's supposed to be anymore.
Oh, and I did the most important thing to prepare for Riots. Moving out of leftist cities. Also got plenty of guns and ammo of course (which I had to scramble for early 2020), but it's better to not need to test the local jury pool.
Speaking of which, it might not be a terrible idea to stock up even more, ammo prices might quickly double (or 4x) again when the 2024 riots start.
"Island" It's a fucking sand bar.
But it identifies as an island.
Bigot.
still better than venezuela
with some more Climate Change, we could make it an island
With more illegals it could capsize!
An island is just a really big sand bar
can we send 100,000 troons to Venezuela?
It's the Colombian flag.
can we send 100,000 troons to Colombia?
kek.
Nobody is going to give you permission to do what needs to be done
what about Trump? even when he loses (fraud) again?
What about him?
Will he give the go?
No, Donald Trump is not going to tell Americans to shoot people crossing the border. What a stupid question.
Yes,
INVADERS claim territory by planting flags.
We have to declare war on them and repulse them at all cost.
BS most of them are out from Venezuela years ago. I friend of mine in Miami, ran into a Venezuelan who was living free in Argentina, which a job and renting, he moved here with the family, because he wanted to earn more money. He flew to Mexico and crossed the border walking, as a "refugee".
Also basically every other Hispanic country wants the Venezuelans out. They all hate Venezuelans.
It's the Colombian flag though.
The Venezuelans probably stole it as the passed through Colombia.
Edit: nah it looks like it has the stars of a Venezuelan flag.
I don't see any stars.
It's the Colombian flag though.
Our government hates our country.
That is an act of war.
The fact that they don't see how that could come across shows their mindset.
If I felt the need to flee my home country because I was being oppressed or even because of war, why would I feel the need to fly my home countries flag? Surely if I was to fly any flag it would be if the country that I'm trying to get into/is generous to let me in? It doesn't make any sense... unless all the conspiracies are true
So it's official we are being invaded.
We have been conquered without a single shot being fired
Fuck man. Un is making a army.
Texans should repel any UN blue helmets that show up to assist these invaders...
Isn't that an act of war ???
We're knee deep in unanswered acts of war at this point.
That border wall is looking better and better. Even to some lefties.
It's an invading army. That's what you do when you're invading.
Why is Texas being so gay right now
Remember the Alamo.
Mexico did apprently.
ffs it's long since time to go hot on the invaders
I mean...there hasn't been any large showing of citizens showing up for a show of force. Let alone throwing rocks at them or anything.
yeah, the feds would shoot us. it's just a wild hope for a more sane nation.
You're probably correct. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that the opportunity for pain-free solutions is long past.
United Nations prescreening refugees?
Aw, hell no. The UN should not have ANY say in who enters the USA. This gives those people some great seal of approval, which will be used in court during The Great Send Back. It is also ceding sovereign US authority to the UN.
The UN is involved with the Biden admin, and the Clinton Foundation in South America putting the caravans of illegials together.
The UN is subverting the US govt with its agents inside the Biden cartel. Now they have set up shop in Mexico.
Just fucking open fire already.
Take that flag and shove it up their parasitic ass!
Just a reminder that nothing is organic. This is 100% orchestrated. Crazy how a photographer was there to capture the flag going up, huh?
Venezuelans are preferable to Mexicans since they hate commies and would vote against leftists. That's the only reason DOJ is taking it seriously.
Taking it seriously? WTF are you talking about? They are letting Venezuelans flood in.
👆👆
Pretty sure that's the Colombian flag though.
Why bother to take it down? The illegals have already won.
UN Global Compact for Migration https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact
We are under attack! The enemy is inside the house and the only way this ends one of two ways.
If you love Venezuela so much, fuck off back home and kill communists.
It's the Colombian flag though.
Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador all have a flag divided into thirds with colors of yellow blue red from top to bottom. But on Columbia's flag, the yellow is half the flag. Those three stripes look equally sized to me. Ecuador's flag has a coat of arms. Venezuela's flag has a small band of stars which could easily disappear into that image artifacting. The article claims it's the venezuela flag. You'll need to post proof it isn't.
There are no stars on that flag and the yellow looks a little bigger to me in the pictures. There is no way the Venezuelan flag would not have the stars on it.
But there is definitely no coat of arms, and the yellow is not top half. Given how small and miss-able the stars are, unless you can prove otherwise, that looks like a venezuela flag to me. Maybe the flag was homemade. Maybe it's the flag of the peopl who oppose Chavez. Maybe Venezeula can't afford to put stars on their flag anymore.
Colombia does not have a coat of arms. Only Ecuador does. I can prove the stars are not there by looking at all the pictures and videos available. The people who oppose Maduro still put stars on the flag.
I know columbia doesn't. But columbia's stripes are shaped differently. Again, the yellow is fully half of the flag, and that flag right there is not half yellow.
I've seen Colombian flags that aren't precise about the width of the stripes. I have never seen a Venezuelan flag without the stars. I have seen a lot of both.
Close the fucking border already omfg.
A nation without borders is no nation at all.
Dems are so goddamn frustrating.
I pray everyday Americans grow the Balls to close the Border themselves. This Invasion has to be stopped
Imagine being such a piece of shit you flee your home country and travel thousands of miles to illegally enter another country for a better life, then when you get there you plant the flag of the shithole you left because it was a shithole.
It really literally is an invasion.