The Ukrainian funding was cut out of the bill that was passed. Schumer is just trying to save face and Mitch doesn't know what planet he's on. So this "fight" won't get far. Also, on Oct 15th Poland is holding elections, and opposition to the Ukrainian problem has become a major issue. https://archive.ph/FXEDO There may be some sane ppl left in DC who are beginning to look for an off ramp.
If they don't, 3.5 million federal workers are expected to go without a paycheck, millions of women and children could lose nutrition assistance, national parks would likely close and more.
First, fed workers get paid when shutdowns are over, if I’m not mistaken. Second, why the focus on women and children losing “nutrition assistance”? What about men who might lose this? And I thought stuff like welfare wasn’t impacted either. And what exactly IS a woman, anyway? They sure don’t mind playing the woman card when they try to drum up sympathy. I thought women were just as strong and capable as men? Third, since when does the media care about national parks? They demanded parks shut down for the covid hysteria. They demanded EVERYTHING close. Now it’s a problem if parks close? Dafuq?!?!!
Yup. Spent a long time last night talking an elderly lady I help out of her panic. MSM had convinced her she wouldn't get her SocSec check. She was also worried the government would reach into her account and take what little she has. I lied to her and said that would never happen.
What is there to focus on? We've always been at war with Eastasia. That's like saying to focus on the fact that we have air. Or focusing on the 'lectrolytes that people crave.
And when it comes time to vote on it, the establishment will make C-Span change the "Yea" and "Nay" screen text to "Decent Human Being" and "Worse Than Hitler"
Yay, let's just keep kicking this can down the road. Can't wait for the next stopgap bill on the eve of this one expiring. Maybe they'll even be able to throw in that $26B for Ukraine they wanted.
I've been through a few shutdowns as a military brat, service member, government employee, and contractor. No one is going to starve. Worst cause you get furloughed but get back paid. USAA will give you a loan if you need one.
Yeah boredom is why I switched to contracting plus the money is much better. As a federal employee you really couldn't do work even if you wanted to. There are a few exceptions but they are usually pushing the boundaries to cut red tape. It's usually the vets who are experienced with dealing with bureaucratic BS.
"Government employees" aren't just alphabet agency people. They're janitors, postal delivery men, the people who record findings and display pieces for museums, landscapers, roofers, etc.
I get that people don't like the government, but saying tens of thousands of families should starve to death slowly just because you don't like who writes their paycheck is stupid.
Like fucking clockwork. How many years hasn’t this same thing happened? “OMG GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN! DEADLINE LOOMING!” And then at the eleventh hour some shady deal is struck.
Why? What did shutting down help previously? All it does is force thousands of families to go without a paycheck, while the media spins the "Republicans can't even pass a spending bill" narrative, and the same goddamn budget gets passed a week later.
I’d like to start with a two-year shut down at least, even firing all 535 members of Congress, or at least laying them off for 24 months. They’re only there to get rich anyway.
Apparently, according to some people on this site, this is what we get for the few people on our side in Congress "pushing too hard" for our cause. We get nothing and we lose.
I guess we should have waited two weeks on everything.
They will kick it down the road to Dec. in Nov shut down talks and in Dec they will fold like the cheap suits they are when people are too busy with the holidays.
"If they don't, 3.5 million federal workers are expected to go without a paycheck, millions of women and children could lose nutrition assistance, national parks would likely close and more"
It is truly a sad state of affairs when the number one thing politically on so many American's minds is hoping their government stops themselves from sending billions of dollars to a foreign nation.
That's all we talk about anymore it seems is not sending more money to Ukraine. Considering how obviously retarded it is, that shouldn't have even been talked about for more than 30 seconds, let alone an ongoing debate.
no representation
No Ukraine aid either
what do u mean? im reading mcconnell and schumer agree to fund ukraine one post down on the main page
agree to “fight” for more funding in the future
The Ukrainian funding was cut out of the bill that was passed. Schumer is just trying to save face and Mitch doesn't know what planet he's on. So this "fight" won't get far. Also, on Oct 15th Poland is holding elections, and opposition to the Ukrainian problem has become a major issue. https://archive.ph/FXEDO There may be some sane ppl left in DC who are beginning to look for an off ramp.
what percentage of US citizens want to spend pallets of tax dollars on Ukraine keeping Novorussiya territory?
shut it down
Don't worry, the Ukraine state representatives will make sure it passes in next bill.
Biden will issue an emergency EO
Potato Joe will veto.
Sky News said he “will” sign it. who am I supposed to believe?
Putin needs to strike hard and fast before they can pass another bill
Nor do we have accurate media reporting.
First, fed workers get paid when shutdowns are over, if I’m not mistaken. Second, why the focus on women and children losing “nutrition assistance”? What about men who might lose this? And I thought stuff like welfare wasn’t impacted either. And what exactly IS a woman, anyway? They sure don’t mind playing the woman card when they try to drum up sympathy. I thought women were just as strong and capable as men? Third, since when does the media care about national parks? They demanded parks shut down for the covid hysteria. They demanded EVERYTHING close. Now it’s a problem if parks close? Dafuq?!?!!
Yup. Spent a long time last night talking an elderly lady I help out of her panic. MSM had convinced her she wouldn't get her SocSec check. She was also worried the government would reach into her account and take what little she has. I lied to her and said that would never happen.
Well, if it DID happen, I’m pretty sure everything for everyone would be fubar’ed.
That's a BINGO!
Government contract payments are delayed until funding is authorized.
Citizen, the media always makes sense. You're clearly crazy.
Now take your vaccine and wait for the 4th branch of government, Meals on Wheels, to bring you food.
Please focus on the war with EastAsia.
What is there to focus on? We've always been at war with Eastasia. That's like saying to focus on the fact that we have air. Or focusing on the 'lectrolytes that people crave.
Yep fed workers are almost garunteed backpay and cannot work. Its a scam.
no balls, no courage, no will to fight.
McCarthy is a spineless clown, he must be removed immediately.
lol, you’re falling for their trap. Blaming the scapegoat
It’s insane to me how many people STILL fall for all this political theatre, no matter how many times we’ve been through it
Every single Republican politician is complicit and corrupt. You don’t become a Republican politician without it.
Trump is the only exception, and it was an accident, and that’s why they all backstabbed him
Then what can be done? Even armed, if the government comes for us we won't be able to stop them.
not with that attitude.
stolen elections have consequences
Why would a foreign territory like DC be entitled to a voting representative? Oh, well China has the Biden family so why not not.
I concede. I missed the context. Seems we agree. Carry on wich ya bad self.
Ukraine aid is not in the bill. Well done Gaetz and co.
They'll pass that separately, I guarantee it.
And when it comes time to vote on it, the establishment will make C-Span change the "Yea" and "Nay" screen text to "Decent Human Being" and "Worse Than Hitler"
Worse than Hitler? Challenge accepted!
Hey Zelensky gave a standing ovation to a nazi.
It’s scary people are still falling for this shit. “Well done Gaetz” it’s all political theatre
They shouldn't be passing it at all!
House rules will not allow it to be brought up again.
$6 billion in Ukraine aid is next.
I think they had already passed ukraine aid separately.
Which one? They've passed like 20+ funding bills for Ukraine now.
The most recent one that happened one or two days ago.
Yay, let's just keep kicking this can down the road. Can't wait for the next stopgap bill on the eve of this one expiring. Maybe they'll even be able to throw in that $26B for Ukraine they wanted.
maybe they'll give themselves raises, for all their hard work "negotiating"?
I predicted this from Day One. But so did everyone else here. Shocker.
Boo
Who gives a fuck at this point?
The tens of thousands of people who were about to go without a paycheck, I'd imagine
Join the club, motherfucker.
I've been through a few shutdowns as a military brat, service member, government employee, and contractor. No one is going to starve. Worst cause you get furloughed but get back paid. USAA will give you a loan if you need one.
Contractors are still getting paid as long as they have tasking in place. But they get slammed with work if the gov't goes home in a lot of cases.
Yeah boredom is why I switched to contracting plus the money is much better. As a federal employee you really couldn't do work even if you wanted to. There are a few exceptions but they are usually pushing the boundaries to cut red tape. It's usually the vets who are experienced with dealing with bureaucratic BS.
Scum government employees 95+% of whom are filthy DemonRats. Let me them starve to death slowly.
"Government employees" aren't just alphabet agency people. They're janitors, postal delivery men, the people who record findings and display pieces for museums, landscapers, roofers, etc.
I get that people don't like the government, but saying tens of thousands of families should starve to death slowly just because you don't like who writes their paycheck is stupid.
“Starve to death”
are you a libtard or just a regular retard?.
I agree.. STARVE QUICK , MUDDA FUKKAAAAAS!!
They get back pay. And everyone bends over backwards to give interest free loans.
True
Like fucking clockwork. How many years hasn’t this same thing happened? “OMG GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN! DEADLINE LOOMING!” And then at the eleventh hour some shady deal is struck.
Or it gets gridlocked for a couple of weeks and the worst thing that happens is the parks get shutdown.
“The bill the Senate passed includes disaster relief but leaves Ukraine aid on the cutting room floor.”
So realistically, the Uniparty will just pass another Ukraine Aid spending bill outside of this?
Traitors. All of them.
I was really hoping they would shut down this time
Why? What did shutting down help previously? All it does is force thousands of families to go without a paycheck, while the media spins the "Republicans can't even pass a spending bill" narrative, and the same goddamn budget gets passed a week later.
Should have learned to code. AKA found a better employer.
Because fuck these assholes is why.
It's well past time to dump all Chinese imported products into the Harbor.
Maybe Biden will veto it!
Pussies galore! And no it's not a James Bond flick.
All of you govt shit-bags need to shut it all down and go take a 20 year vacation. Our country would actually do BETTER without you clowns.
I’d like to start with a two-year shut down at least, even firing all 535 members of Congress, or at least laying them off for 24 months. They’re only there to get rich anyway.
ふくううううううううううううう
And McCarthy will still be there to kick the can to Christy and then do an omnibus the Republicans will get nothing out of.
Apparently, according to some people on this site, this is what we get for the few people on our side in Congress "pushing too hard" for our cause. We get nothing and we lose.
I guess we should have waited two weeks on everything.
We were the “two more weeks” group, friend.
You aren't "we", shill.
This exact thing plays out like every 2 years. It always seems to be around this time of year as well.
It will happen next year too, watch
The Scumbag GOP pieces of human shit, need to shut this fucking shit down.
Fucking pussy pieces of trash.
They voted to keep embezzling money.
Wow, surprising.
As is tradition.
what exactly is in it?
Whatever it is, it's too much.
They're looking for at least another $6 billion for Ukraine from what I've read.
This just in: We're fucked again.
Nuke the whole damned district.
Booo
Saving the drama for election year ofc.
What if Biden is on vacation and doesn’t sign it?
SHOCKER. Once again, the joke's on us.
God forbid the nation’s suicide machine takes a breather
They will kick it down the road to Dec. in Nov shut down talks and in Dec they will fold like the cheap suits they are when people are too busy with the holidays.
"If they don't, 3.5 million federal workers are expected to go without a paycheck, millions of women and children could lose nutrition assistance, national parks would likely close and more"
SHOULD HAVE PICKED A BETTER EMPLOYER.
Note that language. Expected to, could lose, and would likely… The lies of the Marxist Media.
I know even if they do get Furloughed they will get back pay and probably a bonus on top.
Shocked. I'm shocked, I tell ya.
This Government has led America into a 3rd world country. Fuck I hate Biden and his puppet master
CNN poll showed that normies would blame democrats for the shutdown. Was never going to happen.
It is truly a sad state of affairs when the number one thing politically on so many American's minds is hoping their government stops themselves from sending billions of dollars to a foreign nation.
That's all we talk about anymore it seems is not sending more money to Ukraine. Considering how obviously retarded it is, that shouldn't have even been talked about for more than 30 seconds, let alone an ongoing debate.