Make it obvious they are ignoring us, otherwise they'll have an excuse to expel Gaetz. We need to put pressure on at the local level -- on the local reps -- to get results
"I would like to request that you would stand with Florida congressman Matt Gaetz in his motion to vacate house Speaker McCarthy whom has repetitively gone against the will of the people. I also ask that you would speak up and support Mr Gaetz as he faces possible expulsion. He's the only one boldly fighting for us, protect him!"
Will it be read, reach turner, be heard, acted upon, or make a difference? I dont know. But I do know that not trying is a guaranteed 0% success rate.
Now watch the impeachment inquiry slowly fade away into the background while these reindeer games are being played.
Impeachment should be the #1 priority. Anything else is a distraction.
Getting the corruption out in the open where nobody can deny it is the biggest blow we can strike against the DS and the lying MSM who have been covering for them. Force them to admit the truth and then let's see how 2024 looks.
Who the Speaker is matters not in the grand scheme of things.
I actually think impeachment is rather irrelevant. Whether it's Sleepy or Kameltoe, the exact same power structure and people actually in charge remains identical.
It'll change nothing, and only expend political capital on our side that could be spent on something more impactful.
Additionally, I think keeping Sleepy as the candidate for 24 is the best outcome as he will draw the least amount of legitimate voters compared to anything else
See my reply to Hamster as well. But I second this. The impeachment inquiry is theater that can only lead to a worse opponent like Newsome who I think is one of the most dangerous people to ever run.
Tell me what's more impactful that exposing how the government and media conspired to cover for Biden's corruption all in an attempt to simply get the anti-DS Trump out of the picture?
We know this, but there are millions of normies who need to be hit over the head with this. Nothing does that better than an impeachment.
And the investigation with full subpoena power may just uncover the Obama ties.
Absolutely Obama ties. In my opinion he's running the show and there's plenty evidence of it. I've always felt like Hussein has Joe over a barrel because he either had the foresite to silently allow his corruption while he was VP....or maybe it's covering his own ass now. I feel it was Hussein that insisted Biden be the nominee when we saw the others like Bernie (who were well ahead) drop out so it could be possible. Seemed like Joe didnt even *want the gig before this all went down prior to 2020 election.
OTOH, I would currently rather Trump face Biden in 2024 to win and then he can lame duck release the hounds from hell. If Potato Joe kicks the bucket, Harris wouldn't even be able get folks out to vote.
Newsom can't upstage Harris and prove loyal to party or to his own dumbass virtue decisions of naming specifically a "black woman" to replace Diane Feinstein.
🤷♂️ I'm not at all as educated in the details of politics as many of you guys are but this is how I've felt lately.
Exactly. Even if a lot of the "normies" may not turn into Trump voters, if the incredible scale of the Biden family's corruption gets their attention, a lot of them will just not bother to vote at all. And numerically, each Democrat who skips voting is effectively adding a vote to Trump's total, as well as to Republican House and Senate candidates, and state level candidates.
Who the Speaker is matters not in the grand scheme of things.
I respectfully disagree. To an extent, I mean sure the inquiry is better than nothing.... But barely imho. Because:
Getting the corruption out in the open where nobody can deny it is the biggest blow we can strike against the DS and the lying MSM
This just isn't going to happen. Ever. MSM, total blackout. Any mention is, as always "baseless Q-annon conspiracy theorist republican nazis...."
People will never wake up, no one will ever hear nor see this, nothing will change. Even in, during the inquiry the only ones taking it seriously are the same people that where discredited from the very beginning. The court of puplic opinion says that MAGA Republicans are evil nuts and Joe Biden is just maybe slightly old & clumsy. Sure, some people say he's unfit for office, but corrupt? Evil? Nah, just an old grandpa past his prime.
MSM will never cover it. Twitter is the only place it will be seen. Oh, you mean the same twitter we've had for over a year now? Nothing is changing.....
I understand the impeachment inquiry is big because it's all we have.... but there's a reason its all we have.... LEADERSHIP!
The whole thing has been slow rolled, half-assed, and been done with the same seriousness and urgency as a principal looking through a kids notebooks for a dick doodle.
The whole thing is, as always political theater meant to pacify not get anywhere. "look, were doing stuffs".
I mean, I appreciate something is happening..... but nothing is happening from what I can see.
Edit: Also, the MSM is actually now covering it. It's almost as if the word has been sent out that Biden is a dead man walking. They need to end this before more documentable evidence comes out and they know it's out there.
It's almost as if the word has been sent out that Biden is a dead man walking
Which leads me to be more blacker-pilled
It seems everything is going wrong everywhere and the odds of Trump being allowed to take victory is growing smaller by the minute.
They cannot, will not, and clearly very determined to take him out AND prevent anyone from winning like that ever again.
People are still too happy and comfortable to just "vote for someone else".
There is no way out of this if the politicle facade is working. People MUST WAKE UP! NOW.
If they take out Biden they'll insert someone far worse. And I'm very afraid it's Newsome. I've told you I think he's the most dangerous person to have run in very long time.
I believe the motion to vacate is necessary to shake things up. Either they fight to keep McCarthy and cleary show everyone that he's a demon in elephant clothing or they flat out insert a demon, but either way what do we lose?
How important is the impeachment trial? Why? What will it achieve? How? When? What is the consequence? We already know the entire Biden family is unfathomably corrupt, so what if that's the way they chose to ditch him? If anything it gives all of them MORE credibility....
If they plan on taking Biden out, they will. If not, they won't.. . Plain & simple.
The democrats run the show and everyone who matters knows it. Nothing will change.
We need a better activism section on this site. We could start with a state directory Tab with contact info for all of our representatives at county and state levels. Also links to local groups in each county where people can get involved locally.
all it requires to vacate is a simple majority vote
Which is why it won't pass. Kevin will strike some backroom deal with 20-30 Democrats like he's very obviously have. Democrats have still gotten their way ever since McCarthy got Speakership.
I've seen the Motion to Vacate as a non-issue since day 1 because McCarthy is a snake and he didn't sweat it one bit. That was all I needed to know the fix was in.
The guy was shaking with anticipation to get in as speaker, I mean he was licking his lips and rubbing his hands looking crazy in the eyes just fantasizing. I knew he was a wolf in sheeps clothing but yet Trump supported him. That to me was another of hundreds of "wtf Trump!" moments. I don't know how he thinks McCarthy would help him back, just like those idiotic judges he chose. The guy just shots himself in the foot all the time and it makes me wanna scream in his ear to "knock it off, these people are NOT your friends!", out of love for the guy.
To help explain wtf Trump moments, consider these quotes from Sun Tzu:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.
Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Oh for Pete’s sake. He wasn’t doing any of the above. He made bad decisions and choices and no one in his orbit stopped him or said no. He needs to choose better people. People who know what they’re doing, not just people who suck up to him.
That view makes some sense, but it is not compatible with the man who beat both the Bush AND Clinton political crime families. By himself. No aids. No advisors. No consultants. No big money donors. Just him.
So the thinking person has to come up with a model that predicts both the uncanny success and the supposed failures.
Sun Tzu covers both pretty well.
And 2024 is shaping up pretty well, so what model predicts that.
It is not fixable. So many laws have been past that circumvent the Constitution that it needs to be completely destroyed and started again from scratch. Trump COULD make that happen, if the top brass in the military were on his side, the people sure are. But truthfully, that would just be a great fiction book to read.
Its amazing how obvious the deep state is, they always go with the character smear campaign if somebody gets out of line or messes with their main plans. Then they try to act like they are the moral authority. Same thing here and media puppets are going for it, as usual
Most rank and file Democrats are deceived by very cunning, very skillfull propagandists and brainwashers.
If the MSM/social media/hollywood were to disappear tomorrow, the country would naturally drift toward conservatism almost everywhere. Like 75% of the population. Our position does not require brainwashing. It's natural.
I'm in shock he didn't post something like "Big things in the works. I can't comment at this time, but be on the lookout for a huge announcement in the next couple weeks!"
I called Rep Jen Kiggans during the initial vote. Her soyboy answering the phone couldn't have given less of a shit if he tried. Jen Kiggans is a RINO.
Dems want to keep mcarthy in as he serves their interests. Rinos want him to stay because they are all uniparty. I respect Gaetz for attempting this but it will have no support.
I think it will have tons of support, but just under enough to pass. The Rs who go against it are on the list of those to primary and the fraud machine isn't too strong in most of those districts, so I think they will let a good number go along with Gaetz.
I support removing McCarthy but what then? It would be easy to replace him with someone worse but what's the likelihood of being able to replace him with someone better?
Him and Lauren should have never bent the knee and allowed him the seat in the first place. Should have kept voting Trump or Santa or even Jeb freckin Bush. But no they gave in and voted how they did. We would still be voting weekly if they hadn't. Well probably they would have both gotten visits from Killary's friends. But they did what we did and now America suffers while they still get to live the lives they live. 🖕
And how will this help in any tangible way? So many barking dogs with no teeth. I love most things Gaetx has to say but it seems performative at this point.
It doesn't really accomplish anything having 4 more weeks of infighting that only results in McCarthy being elected Speaker again.
If I was going to take a stand on something, I'd be saying "Make sure the next spending bill does something about the border or I'm voting you out as Speaker." Extracting concessions is better than an embarrassing dispute that doesn't accomplish anything.
I hope they expel Gaetz. I hope Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly support kicking him out of congress. Then maybe people will see voting Republican isn't going to solve anything. Maybe then we can make some progress.
I think he's just trying to get him to stick to his word. It would be far superior if McCarthy were to just start being MAGA... We'redoubtful of course, but yes, McCarthy must go if he's going to keep selling out the American people. GO MATT!!!
Contact your reps immediately and tell them to support the motion
Do our reps even fucking listen anymore?
Make it obvious they are ignoring us, otherwise they'll have an excuse to expel Gaetz. We need to put pressure on at the local level -- on the local reps -- to get results
Here's what I sent my congressman, Mike Turner:
Will it be read, reach turner, be heard, acted upon, or make a difference? I dont know. But I do know that not trying is a guaranteed 0% success rate.
Bingo. My pede, if I could give you more than a doot, I would
TY pede. I just did the same for my rep.
FYI: the math is interesting.
If everybody votes, 433 votes, need 217, If all R vote they win. They have 221.
If some R don't vote, or vote against, they could lose.
However, if all D vote present, they don't count. Then it's just a majority of the 221 R. Meaning only 111 R would have to vote to have a majority.
Interesting.
Now watch the impeachment inquiry slowly fade away into the background while these reindeer games are being played.
Impeachment should be the #1 priority. Anything else is a distraction.
Getting the corruption out in the open where nobody can deny it is the biggest blow we can strike against the DS and the lying MSM who have been covering for them. Force them to admit the truth and then let's see how 2024 looks.
Who the Speaker is matters not in the grand scheme of things.
I actually think impeachment is rather irrelevant. Whether it's Sleepy or Kameltoe, the exact same power structure and people actually in charge remains identical.
It'll change nothing, and only expend political capital on our side that could be spent on something more impactful.
Additionally, I think keeping Sleepy as the candidate for 24 is the best outcome as he will draw the least amount of legitimate voters compared to anything else
See my reply to Hamster as well. But I second this. The impeachment inquiry is theater that can only lead to a worse opponent like Newsome who I think is one of the most dangerous people to ever run.
Tell me what's more impactful that exposing how the government and media conspired to cover for Biden's corruption all in an attempt to simply get the anti-DS Trump out of the picture?
We know this, but there are millions of normies who need to be hit over the head with this. Nothing does that better than an impeachment.
And the investigation with full subpoena power may just uncover the Obama ties.
So yes, I think it's somewhat important.
Absolutely Obama ties. In my opinion he's running the show and there's plenty evidence of it. I've always felt like Hussein has Joe over a barrel because he either had the foresite to silently allow his corruption while he was VP....or maybe it's covering his own ass now. I feel it was Hussein that insisted Biden be the nominee when we saw the others like Bernie (who were well ahead) drop out so it could be possible. Seemed like Joe didnt even *want the gig before this all went down prior to 2020 election.
OTOH, I would currently rather Trump face Biden in 2024 to win and then he can lame duck release the hounds from hell. If Potato Joe kicks the bucket, Harris wouldn't even be able get folks out to vote.
Newsom can't upstage Harris and prove loyal to party or to his own dumbass virtue decisions of naming specifically a "black woman" to replace Diane Feinstein.
🤷♂️ I'm not at all as educated in the details of politics as many of you guys are but this is how I've felt lately.
Exactly. Even if a lot of the "normies" may not turn into Trump voters, if the incredible scale of the Biden family's corruption gets their attention, a lot of them will just not bother to vote at all. And numerically, each Democrat who skips voting is effectively adding a vote to Trump's total, as well as to Republican House and Senate candidates, and state level candidates.
I respectfully disagree. To an extent, I mean sure the inquiry is better than nothing.... But barely imho. Because:
This just isn't going to happen. Ever. MSM, total blackout. Any mention is, as always "baseless Q-annon conspiracy theorist republican nazis...."
People will never wake up, no one will ever hear nor see this, nothing will change. Even in, during the inquiry the only ones taking it seriously are the same people that where discredited from the very beginning. The court of puplic opinion says that MAGA Republicans are evil nuts and Joe Biden is just maybe slightly old & clumsy. Sure, some people say he's unfit for office, but corrupt? Evil? Nah, just an old grandpa past his prime.
MSM will never cover it. Twitter is the only place it will be seen. Oh, you mean the same twitter we've had for over a year now? Nothing is changing.....
I understand the impeachment inquiry is big because it's all we have.... but there's a reason its all we have.... LEADERSHIP!
The whole thing has been slow rolled, half-assed, and been done with the same seriousness and urgency as a principal looking through a kids notebooks for a dick doodle.
The whole thing is, as always political theater meant to pacify not get anywhere. "look, were doing stuffs".
I mean, I appreciate something is happening..... but nothing is happening from what I can see.
How do you block out an actual impeachment trial?
Edit: Also, the MSM is actually now covering it. It's almost as if the word has been sent out that Biden is a dead man walking. They need to end this before more documentable evidence comes out and they know it's out there.
Which leads me to be more blacker-pilled
It seems everything is going wrong everywhere and the odds of Trump being allowed to take victory is growing smaller by the minute.
They cannot, will not, and clearly very determined to take him out AND prevent anyone from winning like that ever again.
People are still too happy and comfortable to just "vote for someone else".
There is no way out of this if the politicle facade is working. People MUST WAKE UP! NOW.
If they take out Biden they'll insert someone far worse. And I'm very afraid it's Newsome. I've told you I think he's the most dangerous person to have run in very long time.
I believe the motion to vacate is necessary to shake things up. Either they fight to keep McCarthy and cleary show everyone that he's a demon in elephant clothing or they flat out insert a demon, but either way what do we lose?
How important is the impeachment trial? Why? What will it achieve? How? When? What is the consequence? We already know the entire Biden family is unfathomably corrupt, so what if that's the way they chose to ditch him? If anything it gives all of them MORE credibility....
If they plan on taking Biden out, they will. If not, they won't.. . Plain & simple.
The democrats run the show and everyone who matters knows it. Nothing will change.
I'm about to do the same!
It's already obvious fren.
people wont take 5 mins to contact their rep "because it wont matter"
but will spend years complaining on social media
Mike Fitzpatrick PA doesnt listen one bit, may as well be a D
so what do it anyway
stop being a fucking quitter
My congress-critter is a (D)
Worse, mine is Adam “Boylove” Schiff, if I move back to California. 😳
Spin up some stuff about how Dems need to oust McCarthy in order to stand in solidarity with oppressed transgender BIPOCs.
Do you have republican freinds/family In your district or in the USA at all that you could convince to spend 5 minutes to email their reps?
You could even copy mine or type one up your own and have them send it... if that would get it done
Nope. We don't even have representation in the government, they're only out for themselves and have their own agenda.
We need a better activism section on this site. We could start with a state directory Tab with contact info for all of our representatives at county and state levels. Also links to local groups in each county where people can get involved locally.
Completely agree
Why can't news articles ever do basic proofreading anymore
I'm not following
To vacate to remove
"a motion to vacate" to remove...
It's still proofreading error.
Not an error at all. You might want to retake English
That's correct English
😆 🤣 🤡 🌎
A pack of hyenas, they only listen to the big money donors and those donors are making big bucks on the war.
Doesn't mean we just roll over and quit
just read it... seems like a long shot... but respect to Gaetz for stickin to his promise
all it requires to vacate is a simple majority vote
if ALL the repubs vote to vacate, its done as we have a simple majority in the House
So we'll get to see who's on what side here very quickly.
Which is why it won't pass. Kevin will strike some backroom deal with 20-30 Democrats like he's very obviously have. Democrats have still gotten their way ever since McCarthy got Speakership.
I've seen the Motion to Vacate as a non-issue since day 1 because McCarthy is a snake and he didn't sweat it one bit. That was all I needed to know the fix was in.
At this point it would be worth it to force McCarthy to strike a backroom deal with 20-30 Democrats.
At least we get some ammunition to primary him in the next election. Make him sweat, he hasn't done jack shit for all us MAGA patriots.
Primary him in CA? What are you toking?
The 20th district in CA is apparently a safe (R) district at the moment. Just need a good candidate.
The guy was shaking with anticipation to get in as speaker, I mean he was licking his lips and rubbing his hands looking crazy in the eyes just fantasizing. I knew he was a wolf in sheeps clothing but yet Trump supported him. That to me was another of hundreds of "wtf Trump!" moments. I don't know how he thinks McCarthy would help him back, just like those idiotic judges he chose. The guy just shots himself in the foot all the time and it makes me wanna scream in his ear to "knock it off, these people are NOT your friends!", out of love for the guy.
To help explain wtf Trump moments, consider these quotes from Sun Tzu:
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.
Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
How did that work out in 2020?
Lousy.
But that's not the end of the story. It appears to be working extremely well in 2024.
Oh for Pete’s sake. He wasn’t doing any of the above. He made bad decisions and choices and no one in his orbit stopped him or said no. He needs to choose better people. People who know what they’re doing, not just people who suck up to him.
That view makes some sense, but it is not compatible with the man who beat both the Bush AND Clinton political crime families. By himself. No aids. No advisors. No consultants. No big money donors. Just him.
So the thinking person has to come up with a model that predicts both the uncanny success and the supposed failures.
Sun Tzu covers both pretty well.
And 2024 is shaping up pretty well, so what model predicts that.
Maybe but McCarthy faces the voters every two years and if he is seen as colluding with Democrats...that makes his reelection much more difficult.
If the motion to vacate had any teeth, it wouldn't be there.
Repubs outnumber the dems in the HOuse
if its a vote strictly on party lines, McCarthy is out.
it only requires a simple majority.
It's up to the Democrats whether McCarthy gets removed or not, there's not enough GOP votes to vacate him
even if you think someone will succeed at something, it doesn't mean their won't be negative consequences for that success
and you should challenge them regardless as they could make mistakes along the way
Lol
They are coming for Gaetz again... our government is SO corrupt, I don't know if it's 'fixable'.
It's not. The parasites have consumed the host.
It's restorable, though. But not fixable in its present form. Needs to collapse in on itself before.
It is not fixable. So many laws have been past that circumvent the Constitution that it needs to be completely destroyed and started again from scratch. Trump COULD make that happen, if the top brass in the military were on his side, the people sure are. But truthfully, that would just be a great fiction book to read.
Its amazing how obvious the deep state is, they always go with the character smear campaign if somebody gets out of line or messes with their main plans. Then they try to act like they are the moral authority. Same thing here and media puppets are going for it, as usual
The U.S. government is the enemy of the American people.
Depends what you mean by "American people"
Any American citizen that knows what a woman is and loves our flag, culture, and country.
And Constitution.
Most rank and file Democrats are deceived by very cunning, very skillfull propagandists and brainwashers.
If the MSM/social media/hollywood were to disappear tomorrow, the country would naturally drift toward conservatism almost everywhere. Like 75% of the population. Our position does not require brainwashing. It's natural.
Hide and watch...
I'll cheer after...not before.
I'm in shock he didn't post something like "Big things in the works. I can't comment at this time, but be on the lookout for a huge announcement in the next couple weeks!"
shush! don't spoil the surprise.
I called Rep Jen Kiggans during the initial vote. Her soyboy answering the phone couldn't have given less of a shit if he tried. Jen Kiggans is a RINO.
Dems want to keep mcarthy in as he serves their interests. Rinos want him to stay because they are all uniparty. I respect Gaetz for attempting this but it will have no support.
I think it will have tons of support, but just under enough to pass. The Rs who go against it are on the list of those to primary and the fraud machine isn't too strong in most of those districts, so I think they will let a good number go along with Gaetz.
nothing ever works until it does at which point it was inevitable and of course it would work
After reading the article, it looks like Gaetz motion is a longshot... Sadly.
Still, I'll hope and pray for success.
McCarthy thinks he's invincible as long as he sucks globalist dick so they can fuck us in the ass. He may be right.
I seem to be having this tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle.
Townhall is such a rino rag.
Jeff Charles in particular is a giant RINO POS.
Mcarthy being shit?! I NEVER SAW THIS COMING!
Ilhan Omar described how the Communists will help McCarthy, only in the event they can share power will they come to his rescue.
Gaetz: A smart guy who refuses to bend over.
Wow. McCarthy made a side deal with dems and didn't tell other Republicans until after the CR was passed.
https://x.com/mattgaetz/status/1708270763759825399?s=20
Thanks for this, u/Trick
Townhall is such a rino rag.
Plot makes it sound so nefarious and illegitimate. Nice work Townhall. =/
I support removing McCarthy but what then? It would be easy to replace him with someone worse but what's the likelihood of being able to replace him with someone better?
Him and Lauren should have never bent the knee and allowed him the seat in the first place. Should have kept voting Trump or Santa or even Jeb freckin Bush. But no they gave in and voted how they did. We would still be voting weekly if they hadn't. Well probably they would have both gotten visits from Killary's friends. But they did what we did and now America suffers while they still get to live the lives they live. 🖕
And how will this help in any tangible way? So many barking dogs with no teeth. I love most things Gaetx has to say but it seems performative at this point.
And what happens when the motion passes? There just aren't the votes to elect someone other than McCarthy Speaker.
if a government shutdown is a good thing
then why isn't government infighting that stalls proceedings a good thing as well?
After the government shutdown, when it starts up again, all employees get back pay. costs the same in the end.
It doesn't really accomplish anything having 4 more weeks of infighting that only results in McCarthy being elected Speaker again.
If I was going to take a stand on something, I'd be saying "Make sure the next spending bill does something about the border or I'm voting you out as Speaker." Extracting concessions is better than an embarrassing dispute that doesn't accomplish anything.
I hope they expel Gaetz. I hope Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly support kicking him out of congress. Then maybe people will see voting Republican isn't going to solve anything. Maybe then we can make some progress.
Gaetz is like the only person in Congress even doing anything. We need more people like him.
Boebert is too busy having her titties squeezed.
They will try to smear Gaetz again
DON'T PANIC.
I think he's just trying to get him to stick to his word. It would be far superior if McCarthy were to just start being MAGA... We'redoubtful of course, but yes, McCarthy must go if he's going to keep selling out the American people. GO MATT!!!
Gaetz must succeed!
Townhall is run by Israel first Zionists.
Matt is my rep. Just sent an email of suport in his fight to remove Kevin.
K
No stop revealing your fucking plans!!!!