I really want to agree with you, and I'm not gonna research where I read this, but:
About 2-4 years ago I read an article in what I believed to be a fairly respectable scientific journal that found a direct link between women who used Ortho Novum, a popular birth control back in the '70s, and the rate of homosexuality in their CHILDREN'S male offspring (their grandkids).
My own speculation, based on my presumption that evolution is real and that survival traits - like baby bunnies instinctively knowing how to evade foxes - are genetically passed from generation to generation, is that messing with hormones, like many other things we do to "solve a problem", often creates other unforseen problems.
Exactly. My view is that gays are affected by hormones in the womb and that's what affects the brain of the developing fetus. I also read it in a study, which I might look up if necessary, but as a gay guy, I KNOW that even when I was a very small child, I "checked out" other boys, and I was curious about them the same way other kids were curious about girls - though at that age I had no idea about the concept, of course.
So I know from my own experience that orientation does not suddenly come at puberty. Children are born with them. And yea, I was never molested either, by anyone, so that argument also falls flat. Why are people so obsessed with this?
Hate the LGBT lobby all you want. I hate them too. But leave us decent people alone. It's hard enough to be a nationalist in today's globalist, decadent world. But it's double hard when people on the left attack you for being a nationalist, and people on the right attack you for being gay. I'm on your side FFS.
What makes us "us" will forever remain a mystery, at least to me. My thinking regarding sex is as long as it involves consenting adults, I don't need to know and certainly don't WANT to know.
Children are not sexual. Now you could say that at puberty, their genes are expressing themselves and so is their sexual preference, but you could just as easily say that by the time they hit puberty, they have been conditioned by their environment to be a certain way.
Look into how many homosexuals experienced sexual abuse, particularly at the hands of a family member. I have a hunch that homosexuality is a type of mind virus that replicates through abuse. The person who goes through that and is unable to cope with it unconsciously seeks out circumstances where they can recreate the event, inflicting it on an innocent and becoming a predator in the process.
That's why you often see extremely inappropriate behavior at these "gay pride" events involving children. Even if you accepted that degeneracy as normal sexual behavior, what kind of person would bring a kid to that event?
It's fine to speculate, who knows the cause, but I'm sure you could see why it would be in the interest of many gays and liberals for the cause to be genetic in nature. It would mean no responsibility for their behavior, and it would give them a reason to enforce acceptance. ("it's normal!")
Now if it was genetic, why is it so rare? People have rare disorders and the like, but if there was some evolutionary advantage in terms of survival (which is a common argument by liberals) then you would think it might be expressed by something more like 15% of the population instead of being less than 1%.
Thinking about it logically, homosexuality is equivalent to being sterile. It has negative value and cannot be considered the norm or beneficial because engaging in it means you are ending your genetic line. If you accept evolution based on increasing your odds of survival and subsequently reproduction (the ultimate goal) then how could homosexuality help?
Edit: Adding to my suspicion, the poster I was originally responding to admits he is homosexual and is trying to convince me that children are born with sexual preferences. That strikes me as a rationalization for his condition, considering that I know children well and have never ever seen anything to indicate sexuality before puberty.
No, it's not. In the same vein, I can claim that nobody is born straight. What's your point? Stop hating normal gays you neanderthal. Trump himself disagrees with you, so as I said, stormfront is open for applicants.
No, the urge to have sex is. With straight people, it correlates with reproduction, which is the intended goal, but with gay people, the urge to have sex stays even without reproduction. I fail to see what you're implying. Do you have any logical opposition to gays? Without using the Bible, because I can invent a religion that says wearing glasses is evil, but that doesn't make it true.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Sexual preferences exist even when you're a child. Why do you think little kids are obsessed with "boobs" and how kids are made? Before you misunderstand, I'm 100% against the sexualization of kids and all manners of pedophilia and freudian psychology. But it's a fact that kids already posess a clear sexual orientation. You make zero arguments in support of your retarded views, just that "it's wrong cuz it's wrong".
I see you're from the westboro baptist church, or a shariablue shill who's paid to post hateful shit on this site to false flag it. Stormfront is waiting for you with open arms. This is Thedonald.win. Trump himself finds no problems with homosexuality. Deported.
"Before you misunderstand, I'm 100% against the sexualization of kids"
Then stop sexualizing them. I've been around plenty of children, babysitting and so on. They are curious about things like how kids came to be, but it has nothing to do with sexual arousal.
Look, I see from your other comments that you happen to suffer from this affliction. I sympathize, but there is nothing normal about homosexuality.
I don't hate you. I wish you the best and I hope you overcome it, but I'm not going to stop saying it is wrong because you take offense to it.
No one is born gay. That's absurd.
I really want to agree with you, and I'm not gonna research where I read this, but:
About 2-4 years ago I read an article in what I believed to be a fairly respectable scientific journal that found a direct link between women who used Ortho Novum, a popular birth control back in the '70s, and the rate of homosexuality in their CHILDREN'S male offspring (their grandkids).
My own speculation, based on my presumption that evolution is real and that survival traits - like baby bunnies instinctively knowing how to evade foxes - are genetically passed from generation to generation, is that messing with hormones, like many other things we do to "solve a problem", often creates other unforseen problems.
Exactly. My view is that gays are affected by hormones in the womb and that's what affects the brain of the developing fetus. I also read it in a study, which I might look up if necessary, but as a gay guy, I KNOW that even when I was a very small child, I "checked out" other boys, and I was curious about them the same way other kids were curious about girls - though at that age I had no idea about the concept, of course.
So I know from my own experience that orientation does not suddenly come at puberty. Children are born with them. And yea, I was never molested either, by anyone, so that argument also falls flat. Why are people so obsessed with this?
Hate the LGBT lobby all you want. I hate them too. But leave us decent people alone. It's hard enough to be a nationalist in today's globalist, decadent world. But it's double hard when people on the left attack you for being a nationalist, and people on the right attack you for being gay. I'm on your side FFS.
What makes us "us" will forever remain a mystery, at least to me. My thinking regarding sex is as long as it involves consenting adults, I don't need to know and certainly don't WANT to know.
Agreed 100%. I make sure never to bring it up, unless someone else brings it up first. For example, this thread.
Children are not sexual. Now you could say that at puberty, their genes are expressing themselves and so is their sexual preference, but you could just as easily say that by the time they hit puberty, they have been conditioned by their environment to be a certain way.
Look into how many homosexuals experienced sexual abuse, particularly at the hands of a family member. I have a hunch that homosexuality is a type of mind virus that replicates through abuse. The person who goes through that and is unable to cope with it unconsciously seeks out circumstances where they can recreate the event, inflicting it on an innocent and becoming a predator in the process.
That's why you often see extremely inappropriate behavior at these "gay pride" events involving children. Even if you accepted that degeneracy as normal sexual behavior, what kind of person would bring a kid to that event?
It's fine to speculate, who knows the cause, but I'm sure you could see why it would be in the interest of many gays and liberals for the cause to be genetic in nature. It would mean no responsibility for their behavior, and it would give them a reason to enforce acceptance. ("it's normal!")
Now if it was genetic, why is it so rare? People have rare disorders and the like, but if there was some evolutionary advantage in terms of survival (which is a common argument by liberals) then you would think it might be expressed by something more like 15% of the population instead of being less than 1%.
Thinking about it logically, homosexuality is equivalent to being sterile. It has negative value and cannot be considered the norm or beneficial because engaging in it means you are ending your genetic line. If you accept evolution based on increasing your odds of survival and subsequently reproduction (the ultimate goal) then how could homosexuality help?
Edit: Adding to my suspicion, the poster I was originally responding to admits he is homosexual and is trying to convince me that children are born with sexual preferences. That strikes me as a rationalization for his condition, considering that I know children well and have never ever seen anything to indicate sexuality before puberty.
No, it's not. In the same vein, I can claim that nobody is born straight. What's your point? Stop hating normal gays you neanderthal. Trump himself disagrees with you, so as I said, stormfront is open for applicants.
The urge to reproduce is present in all organisms.
No, the urge to have sex is. With straight people, it correlates with reproduction, which is the intended goal, but with gay people, the urge to have sex stays even without reproduction. I fail to see what you're implying. Do you have any logical opposition to gays? Without using the Bible, because I can invent a religion that says wearing glasses is evil, but that doesn't make it true.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Sexual preferences exist even when you're a child. Why do you think little kids are obsessed with "boobs" and how kids are made? Before you misunderstand, I'm 100% against the sexualization of kids and all manners of pedophilia and freudian psychology. But it's a fact that kids already posess a clear sexual orientation. You make zero arguments in support of your retarded views, just that "it's wrong cuz it's wrong".
I see you're from the westboro baptist church, or a shariablue shill who's paid to post hateful shit on this site to false flag it. Stormfront is waiting for you with open arms. This is Thedonald.win. Trump himself finds no problems with homosexuality. Deported.
"Before you misunderstand, I'm 100% against the sexualization of kids"
Then stop sexualizing them. I've been around plenty of children, babysitting and so on. They are curious about things like how kids came to be, but it has nothing to do with sexual arousal.
Look, I see from your other comments that you happen to suffer from this affliction. I sympathize, but there is nothing normal about homosexuality.
I don't hate you. I wish you the best and I hope you overcome it, but I'm not going to stop saying it is wrong because you take offense to it.