During the opening of our embassy in Jerusalem, it was hard not to notice how not just Netanyahu was sucking Mossad penis, but EVERY Jew attending gave Mossad a standing ovation. Their love for Mossad was so clear that even Jews in wheelchairs stood. Disgusting.
Finally, every fucking time President Trump announced his plans to bring our troops home from Syria, Israel immediately shot missiles into Syria in an attempt to entangle us further in their wars. They only admitted it AFTER we caught them doing it. So fuck that!
Until we know how many of our powerful politicians and CEOs are being extorted by Mossad, we should cease blindly supporting Israel. The filthy rich country of Israel does nothing but gulp down our military aid.
I hear what you're saying, but there's one small flaw to that theory: The MSM.
The corrupt US politicians, CEO's, and "elite" dynasties literally own the media. Between Soros and Murdoch they've got US media all sewn up. Yet western media relentlessly supports Palestinian terrorists and the Saudis, while writing hit pieces against Israel at every opportunity.
So if Israel has captured pedo politicians and CEO's in the US, and is also under control of the globalist cunts like the Rothschilds, all of whom have full control over the lying MSM, then why does the MSM (that they own and control) endlessly attempt to demonize Israel? That seems counter intuitive, no?
>Yet western media relentlessly supports Palestinian terrorists
I don't question the MSM may have published opinion pieces that support Palestine, but I can't specifically recall a single one or remember any that made it to the front page of CNN, New York Times or Washington Post.
Disclaimer: I recognize Palestine and Hamas to be some of the most disgusting Muslim terrorists in human history. I have nothing but contempt for their filth and their use of children as weapons and shields.
That said, seditious mainstream news is complicated and misinformation agents are often forced to write articles on subjects they'd rather coverup in order to control the narrative. We're already seeing this with lies being spread about the IG Horowitz report that is due out on December 9.
We've also seen this with the MSM discussing Hunter Biden as they feed us bullshit about all the claims of corruption being debunked or unsubstantiated.
This is known as controlling both the narrative and the opposition - it's Mossad 101.
This gets complicated and each article needs to be examined carefully to determine if it is sincere reporting or truth mixed with misinformation for the purpose of controlling the narrative.
Unfortunately this is where our debate may break down because the distinction isn't necessarily definitive.
Nobody's perfect, including Israel. Just because some terrible things (which were undoubtedly attricious) happened to a nation's people several decades ago doesn't give that nation a right to go without criticism. They should be held to the same standard as everyone else.
For example, take a look at the attack on the USS Liberty.
Nobody is above criticism, you're right. Israel, however, is relentlessly criticized non-stop. When last did western media have anything good (or even remotely impartial) to say about Israel? A thousand Palestinian rockets are fired into Israel and the media says nothing, but let Israel fire even one in self defense or retaliation...
This is going to sound very odd, but you have to look at who is the media. No, im not going to go all "muh jewish conspiracy" mode or imply its all nepotism, but Jews are very big in the media and entertainment industries. Best comparison is like how blacks account for some small % of the national population but represent an overwhelming proportion in professional sports.
The point being is Jews can criticize other Jews (and do quite often), but we are anti-semitic if one of us does.
The USS Liberty is often brought up as an excuse to criticize Israel. I’m not saying there are no legitimate reasons to criticize them, but this is not one. Both Israel and the official US position agree that the Liberty was mistaken for an enemy Egyptian war ship. It was cruising in an active war zone during a hot war with 3 Arab countries over 50 years ago. I know there are some conspiracy theories out there for other explanations, but to use this as an example of a valid criticism is really reaching.
Fair point. IMO I'm not very anti-Israel at all, its just a facet of geopolitics that finds itself in its own tangled web of interconnected circumstances. Sometimes, I like to play devil's advocate to see if I can see the other side within reason. "USS Liberty" isnt the best argument, nor is the fact that they haven't signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Sometimes I can try, fail, and learn.
REALLY?!?! You suck, swallow and peddle the "official" Isreal/US position that the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. LOLOL Change your name to GrumpyIsraeli.
I will always support Israel, I will never support the Palestinians run by a terrorist organization Hamas who are run by Iran. No thank you we have enough of them in the world. One tiny little strip of land, One tiny little strip of western civilization in an ocean of Islam. Nothing about a Palestinian state says Western values nothing! Israel should’ve never left Gaza! The disgusting hate filled animalistic nature of Hamas that will use and abuse everyone of their own people in their insane hatred of Israel needs to be contained if not destroyed. The only light in that vast darkness of Islam in the Middle East is Israel. Ask yourself why doesn’t Egypt absorb Gaza answer because they do not want them at all. They are not stupid. The people of Gaza are just pawns in the Islamic fight to destroy Israel and through immigration all western civilizations!
I don't trust any foreign power, and Israel really hasn't done much to prove they are an ally. Seems like we just fight their wars for them and get nothing in return.
Also interesting how the "conservatives" will defend Israel, an ethnostate, then turn around and condemn white-nationalism.
"Also interesting how the "conservatives" will defend Israel, an ethnostate, then turn around and condemn white-nationalism."
That's because the establishment GOP no longer represents conservative values. They're as corrupt and cucked as the Democrats, since they all share the same globalist masters.
The UK "conservatives" are the same. The UK has no parliamentary representation on the right at all. The Conservatives are center-left, Labour is left, and the Lib-Dems are far left.
It wouldn't be so bad if the base called them out for it. "Conservatives" have conserved zero besides endless foreign war and corporatism over the last several decades. Our culture is in shambles and our people are under siege, but even still they care less than ever.
I feel your pain. It truly amazes me that people know exactly how they're being butt-fucked on a daily basis by an extremely corrupt government, yet they continue to say "oh well" and just live with it.
The same goes for voter ID. Almost every nation on earth has voter ID, even the most liberal, leftist states, and every single African nation. The whole point is to prevent the voter fraud and "election meddling" that the Dems always shriek about. Yet someone mentions voter ID and the left screams "racist". And how do conservatives respond to that?
"Oh well"
I've seen it in South Africa too, where the white minority is literally banned from seeking employment, are being raped, tortured, and murdered in sick hate crimes by black gangs every day, and their kids are not even allowed to attend university due to racist racial quotas.
Yet try to speak to them about supporting each other and challenging the system... yeah, fat chance.
Why not? Asking for a friend...
I support Israel for one fundamental reason: Fuck Islam (and especially the Palestinians).
OK, I'll play devil's advocate:
This is the dynasty that created Israel... and I've seen nothing to suggest the Rothschilds, perhaps the greatest terrorist family in human history, aren't still in power.
Epstein's orgy island has direct links to Mossad and was very likely an extortion honeytrap used to turn powerful American CEOs and politicians into Mossad puppets.
During the opening of our embassy in Jerusalem, it was hard not to notice how not just Netanyahu was sucking Mossad penis, but EVERY Jew attending gave Mossad a standing ovation. Their love for Mossad was so clear that even Jews in wheelchairs stood. Disgusting.
Finally, every fucking time President Trump announced his plans to bring our troops home from Syria, Israel immediately shot missiles into Syria in an attempt to entangle us further in their wars. They only admitted it AFTER we caught them doing it. So fuck that!
Until we know how many of our powerful politicians and CEOs are being extorted by Mossad, we should cease blindly supporting Israel. The filthy rich country of Israel does nothing but gulp down our military aid.
I hear what you're saying, but there's one small flaw to that theory: The MSM.
The corrupt US politicians, CEO's, and "elite" dynasties literally own the media. Between Soros and Murdoch they've got US media all sewn up. Yet western media relentlessly supports Palestinian terrorists and the Saudis, while writing hit pieces against Israel at every opportunity.
So if Israel has captured pedo politicians and CEO's in the US, and is also under control of the globalist cunts like the Rothschilds, all of whom have full control over the lying MSM, then why does the MSM (that they own and control) endlessly attempt to demonize Israel? That seems counter intuitive, no?
>Yet western media relentlessly supports Palestinian terrorists
I don't question the MSM may have published opinion pieces that support Palestine, but I can't specifically recall a single one or remember any that made it to the front page of CNN, New York Times or Washington Post.
Disclaimer: I recognize Palestine and Hamas to be some of the most disgusting Muslim terrorists in human history. I have nothing but contempt for their filth and their use of children as weapons and shields.
That said, seditious mainstream news is complicated and misinformation agents are often forced to write articles on subjects they'd rather coverup in order to control the narrative. We're already seeing this with lies being spread about the IG Horowitz report that is due out on December 9.
We've also seen this with the MSM discussing Hunter Biden as they feed us bullshit about all the claims of corruption being debunked or unsubstantiated.
This is known as controlling both the narrative and the opposition - it's Mossad 101.
This gets complicated and each article needs to be examined carefully to determine if it is sincere reporting or truth mixed with misinformation for the purpose of controlling the narrative.
Unfortunately this is where our debate may break down because the distinction isn't necessarily definitive.
Nobody's perfect, including Israel. Just because some terrible things (which were undoubtedly attricious) happened to a nation's people several decades ago doesn't give that nation a right to go without criticism. They should be held to the same standard as everyone else.
For example, take a look at the attack on the USS Liberty.
Nobody is above criticism, you're right. Israel, however, is relentlessly criticized non-stop. When last did western media have anything good (or even remotely impartial) to say about Israel? A thousand Palestinian rockets are fired into Israel and the media says nothing, but let Israel fire even one in self defense or retaliation...
This is going to sound very odd, but you have to look at who is the media. No, im not going to go all "muh jewish conspiracy" mode or imply its all nepotism, but Jews are very big in the media and entertainment industries. Best comparison is like how blacks account for some small % of the national population but represent an overwhelming proportion in professional sports.
The point being is Jews can criticize other Jews (and do quite often), but we are anti-semitic if one of us does.
The USS Liberty is often brought up as an excuse to criticize Israel. I’m not saying there are no legitimate reasons to criticize them, but this is not one. Both Israel and the official US position agree that the Liberty was mistaken for an enemy Egyptian war ship. It was cruising in an active war zone during a hot war with 3 Arab countries over 50 years ago. I know there are some conspiracy theories out there for other explanations, but to use this as an example of a valid criticism is really reaching.
Fair point. IMO I'm not very anti-Israel at all, its just a facet of geopolitics that finds itself in its own tangled web of interconnected circumstances. Sometimes, I like to play devil's advocate to see if I can see the other side within reason. "USS Liberty" isnt the best argument, nor is the fact that they haven't signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Sometimes I can try, fail, and learn.
REALLY?!?! You suck, swallow and peddle the "official" Isreal/US position that the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. LOLOL Change your name to GrumpyIsraeli.
I will always support Israel, I will never support the Palestinians run by a terrorist organization Hamas who are run by Iran. No thank you we have enough of them in the world. One tiny little strip of land, One tiny little strip of western civilization in an ocean of Islam. Nothing about a Palestinian state says Western values nothing! Israel should’ve never left Gaza! The disgusting hate filled animalistic nature of Hamas that will use and abuse everyone of their own people in their insane hatred of Israel needs to be contained if not destroyed. The only light in that vast darkness of Islam in the Middle East is Israel. Ask yourself why doesn’t Egypt absorb Gaza answer because they do not want them at all. They are not stupid. The people of Gaza are just pawns in the Islamic fight to destroy Israel and through immigration all western civilizations!
Why?
Prove what wrong? You didn’t make a statement of fact, you made an emotional plea.
lmao, "question israel, prove me wrong" wut?
OP is a 13 yo
I don't trust any foreign power, and Israel really hasn't done much to prove they are an ally. Seems like we just fight their wars for them and get nothing in return.
Also interesting how the "conservatives" will defend Israel, an ethnostate, then turn around and condemn white-nationalism.
"Also interesting how the "conservatives" will defend Israel, an ethnostate, then turn around and condemn white-nationalism."
That's because the establishment GOP no longer represents conservative values. They're as corrupt and cucked as the Democrats, since they all share the same globalist masters.
The UK "conservatives" are the same. The UK has no parliamentary representation on the right at all. The Conservatives are center-left, Labour is left, and the Lib-Dems are far left.
And they all bow to the same globalist overlords.
It wouldn't be so bad if the base called them out for it. "Conservatives" have conserved zero besides endless foreign war and corporatism over the last several decades. Our culture is in shambles and our people are under siege, but even still they care less than ever.
I feel your pain. It truly amazes me that people know exactly how they're being butt-fucked on a daily basis by an extremely corrupt government, yet they continue to say "oh well" and just live with it.
The same goes for voter ID. Almost every nation on earth has voter ID, even the most liberal, leftist states, and every single African nation. The whole point is to prevent the voter fraud and "election meddling" that the Dems always shriek about. Yet someone mentions voter ID and the left screams "racist". And how do conservatives respond to that?
"Oh well"
I've seen it in South Africa too, where the white minority is literally banned from seeking employment, are being raped, tortured, and murdered in sick hate crimes by black gangs every day, and their kids are not even allowed to attend university due to racist racial quotas.
Yet try to speak to them about supporting each other and challenging the system... yeah, fat chance.
What they're doing to us is evil. But it stops when people like you and me put our foot down.