Barr sitting on the largest mountain of evidence of treason ever compiled and not making a single arrest of any of the traitors is undermining Barr.
Sending TS SCI and SAP documents (that they weren't even sworn in on) is the textbook definition of treason. Hillary should already be in Gitmo for this shit.
This Horowitz report will be a whitewash, just like his report on Clinton. I'm glad Barr has a problem with it and don't think it makes him look bad. I don't know how anyone who was paying attention last year expected Horowitz to do anything other than a whitewash with this report.
"The Russia investigation was opened after the FBI was told of statements made by a then-Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, that the Russians possessed hacked Hillary Clinton emails.
The attorney general has privately contended that Horowitz does not have enough information to reach the conclusion the FBI had enough details in hand at the time to justify opening such a probe."
So I'd say the real question is: "Is it common practice for the FBI to launch investigations into presidential campaigns because a rival politician with no evidence said someone affiliated with this campaign said a foreign power is hacking other candidates?"
We all know the answer is "No." and we all likely suspect they'll whitewash these criminals both so they can help them steal again and so that the next batch of criminals won't be scared to steal for them.
"Barr’s public defenses of President Trump, including his assertion that intelligence agents spied on the Trump campaign, have led Democrats to accuse him of acting like the president’s personal attorney and eroding the independence of the Justice Department."
What is with these stupid assholes and the idea that the DOJ is an independent agency? It's part of the executive, not a separate branch of government!
There is always fuckery about! That we pay for with our tax money. Its bullshit. It's like we pay our taxes for a reality TV show put on by the media and congress.
Just remember Horowitz is only looking at the FISA abuse and can only talk to current DoJ and FBI employees. Expect it to be fairly limited, but damaging. Durham will bring the wrath of God.
I am left with the feeling Horowitz will be a disappointment to us like Mueller was to Democrats. I hope I am wrong, but I don't see anything pro-MAGA in him.
The whole thing about Horowitz is that he is not and never was /ourguy/. He is an Obama appointee that was sidelined by Obama from doing his job. Obama kept this guy on a tight leash. Now this guy is free to do his job unobstructed and while he isn't going to do us any favors and will likely give the benefit of the doubt to Obama's people at every turn, whatever he does allege will have sticking power because he isn't even one of Trump's people. He's Obama's.
The /ourguy/ title seems to currently rest with Barr and Durham.
Well, Dan already thinks the Horowitz Report has a high likelihood of being garbage. He's been trying to prepare his listeners with his comments for a while now. Hope he's wrong, not looking that way though.
Horowitz will do exactly what he did in the Clinton email report- try to minimize the wrongdoing by the coup plotters. Anyone who thought Horowitz could be trusted to deliver a fair and neutral report wasn't paying attention last year.
Come on 'pedes...... don't fall for this misinformation campaign!!! These are the same 'anonymous/former officials familiar with the thinking of' BS'ers who told you that it was a done deal that Don Jr and Jared would be indicted. That Cohen and McGahn "flipped" on Trump. That Mueller was the "beginning of the end" of the Trump Presidency.
The IG is basically an auditor not law enforcement. He doesn't have the authority to make prosecutorial decisions or legal conclusions. It would be very odd for him to 'conclude' that the FBI's investigation was predicated. That is a legal determination for the AG to make, not the IG.
The IG just lays out facts as he finds them, points out where policy wasn't followed, etc.
The WaPo story sounds like spin to me -- The IG doesn't say the investigation wasn't predicated so MSM says that means he concluded it was predicated, without mentioning it isn't his role to decide that one way or the other.
The same effing thing happened with the Hillary email report. The IG laid out blistering facts showing bias by Strzok, Page, McCabe, made criminal referrals, said their behavior was 'antiethical to FBI & DOJ core values" but also says he could not determine that their bias affected DOJ decisions and what did the MSM do? Shouted at the top of their lungs that 'the IG said the bias did NOT affect DOJ's decisions' while ignoring the bias he laid out. But that isn't what he said. He said he could not determine whether it did. And he can't do that because that is not his role. That is why he makes criminal referrals saying this MAY have violated X, but does NOT say a crime was committed. Yet to this day, even conservative reporters say the IG determined the bias didn't affect DOJ decisions in handling Hillary's emails.
FFS, I'm probably fighting a losing battle, but if we can't be familiar enough with the role of the IG to push back on the MSM fake narratives, we need to at least not help spread them.
Bottom line: When you see people saying the IG found the FBI's investigation was predicated, push back that it isn't his job to make that determination; that is the AG's job.
Devlin Barret or however his name spelled is the reporter in the Strozk/Page texts that they were leaking too... He is a democrat shill and FBI leak receiver and his reporting is garbage...
I seriously knew it... Horowitz is such a god damn shill protecting the deep state.
They are going to release the report, state that there was some FISA abuse. The investigation was justified, but maybe they were overzealous so they need some better training or some BS like that.
I knew this was going to happen from the day Horowitz testified that Strokh and Page had no anti-Trump bias in their investigation. The guy said it with a straight face after being called out by it.
Disgusting. They will have one lawyer fall guy to try to throw us a bone, but the real deep state players will all get a pass.
How could the FBI have any evidence to investigate Trump when the Muller report found zero?
Because you don't need evidence to make up shit.
They'll use the old stand by cops use "disorderly conduct. "
Fuck Horowitz
"according to people familiar with the matter".
"according to people familiar with Trump's thinking"
We should just wait until it comes out. The desperate people sure are desperate these days.
It's the Washington Post trying to undermine Barr.
And plays the bagpipes whilst doing so.
Absolutely! Just going to chill and wait for the report. THEN I am going to wait for Durham. Durham is the report that will make all the difference
Right now fake news spinMing stories!
Barr sitting on the largest mountain of evidence of treason ever compiled and not making a single arrest of any of the traitors is undermining Barr.
Sending TS SCI and SAP documents (that they weren't even sworn in on) is the textbook definition of treason. Hillary should already be in Gitmo for this shit.
Damn right!. They all should be.
The Wash is stuck on the spin cycle
This Horowitz report will be a whitewash, just like his report on Clinton. I'm glad Barr has a problem with it and don't think it makes him look bad. I don't know how anyone who was paying attention last year expected Horowitz to do anything other than a whitewash with this report.
"Had enough evidence to launch an investigation" my ass.
I fully expect this to be the leading headline in all MSM.
Enough fake evidence maybe.
"The Russia investigation was opened after the FBI was told of statements made by a then-Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, that the Russians possessed hacked Hillary Clinton emails.
The attorney general has privately contended that Horowitz does not have enough information to reach the conclusion the FBI had enough details in hand at the time to justify opening such a probe."
So I'd say the real question is: "Is it common practice for the FBI to launch investigations into presidential campaigns because a rival politician with no evidence said someone affiliated with this campaign said a foreign power is hacking other candidates?"
We all know the answer is "No." and we all likely suspect they'll whitewash these criminals both so they can help them steal again and so that the next batch of criminals won't be scared to steal for them.
"Barr’s public defenses of President Trump, including his assertion that intelligence agents spied on the Trump campaign, have led Democrats to accuse him of acting like the president’s personal attorney and eroding the independence of the Justice Department."
What is with these stupid assholes and the idea that the DOJ is an independent agency? It's part of the executive, not a separate branch of government!
Barr is just acting like Trump's wing man. I'm old enough to remember when the Left and the MSM thought that was OK.
Not only that but you didn't hear them say that when Eric Holder said he was Obama's 'Wingman"!
It's cute if they're both black and you're a leftist because racism is wrong. :honk:
stay strong Barr, don't fold
This is a time when I hope and pray their security teams are really alert for more Epstein-level fuckery.
I question the veracity of the anonymous sources.
There is fuckery about
There is always fuckery about! That we pay for with our tax money. Its bullshit. It's like we pay our taxes for a reality TV show put on by the media and congress.
"according to people familiar with the matter"
Why would anyone believe anything at this point from any media source?
Just remember Horowitz is only looking at the FISA abuse and can only talk to current DoJ and FBI employees. Expect it to be fairly limited, but damaging. Durham will bring the wrath of God.
You mean Rush Limbaugh was right? Again?? Color me surprised.
I’m prepared to accept that this ‘leak’ might be the result of yet another ‘canary trap’.
Fuck the Washington Compost. They can all suck a fuck.
I am left with the feeling Horowitz will be a disappointment to us like Mueller was to Democrats. I hope I am wrong, but I don't see anything pro-MAGA in him.
Fair. I am happy he referred people but is that because he's a patriot or is the criminality so overt that it was unavoidable?
The whole thing about Horowitz is that he is not and never was /ourguy/. He is an Obama appointee that was sidelined by Obama from doing his job. Obama kept this guy on a tight leash. Now this guy is free to do his job unobstructed and while he isn't going to do us any favors and will likely give the benefit of the doubt to Obama's people at every turn, whatever he does allege will have sticking power because he isn't even one of Trump's people. He's Obama's.
The /ourguy/ title seems to currently rest with Barr and Durham.
Stop giving fake news any credibility
There are far too many in the DOJ that just want to let things go and make it all go away, and sadly Horowitz is just another do-nothing figure.
I have said it before, he takes years to do jack and when the reports come out they are nothing burgers.
The swamp is not going to be bothered by this crap.
Bongino is going to be hot to trot!
Well, Dan already thinks the Horowitz Report has a high likelihood of being garbage. He's been trying to prepare his listeners with his comments for a while now. Hope he's wrong, not looking that way though.
True.
The FBI is the enemy of the people
"according to people familiar with the matter."
We'll never know just how close to the end we were with a Hillary presidency.
According to people familiar with the matter.
BS
"sources familiar with the matter" sounds like bullshit.
Horowitz will do exactly what he did in the Clinton email report- try to minimize the wrongdoing by the coup plotters. Anyone who thought Horowitz could be trusted to deliver a fair and neutral report wasn't paying attention last year.
Come on 'pedes...... don't fall for this misinformation campaign!!! These are the same 'anonymous/former officials familiar with the thinking of' BS'ers who told you that it was a done deal that Don Jr and Jared would be indicted. That Cohen and McGahn "flipped" on Trump. That Mueller was the "beginning of the end" of the Trump Presidency.
People need to remember that the IG cannot force people to speak with him that have quit or where fired. He's painting an incomplete picture.
Honestly the process is a waste of time, it relies on people being forthcoming and honest. Why would they do that?
> [Barr is] eroding the independence of the Justice Department.
No. No. He's the last shred of integrity you have left and your only hope for ever being trusted again.
Did it cross anyone's mind that Inspector general is a bullshit token position used to peddle lies as press releases to the American people?
Good!!
The IG is basically an auditor not law enforcement. He doesn't have the authority to make prosecutorial decisions or legal conclusions. It would be very odd for him to 'conclude' that the FBI's investigation was predicated. That is a legal determination for the AG to make, not the IG. The IG just lays out facts as he finds them, points out where policy wasn't followed, etc. The WaPo story sounds like spin to me -- The IG doesn't say the investigation wasn't predicated so MSM says that means he concluded it was predicated, without mentioning it isn't his role to decide that one way or the other. The same effing thing happened with the Hillary email report. The IG laid out blistering facts showing bias by Strzok, Page, McCabe, made criminal referrals, said their behavior was 'antiethical to FBI & DOJ core values" but also says he could not determine that their bias affected DOJ decisions and what did the MSM do? Shouted at the top of their lungs that 'the IG said the bias did NOT affect DOJ's decisions' while ignoring the bias he laid out. But that isn't what he said. He said he could not determine whether it did. And he can't do that because that is not his role. That is why he makes criminal referrals saying this MAY have violated X, but does NOT say a crime was committed. Yet to this day, even conservative reporters say the IG determined the bias didn't affect DOJ decisions in handling Hillary's emails. FFS, I'm probably fighting a losing battle, but if we can't be familiar enough with the role of the IG to push back on the MSM fake narratives, we need to at least not help spread them. Bottom line: When you see people saying the IG found the FBI's investigation was predicated, push back that it isn't his job to make that determination; that is the AG's job.
The WaPo lies 100.8% of the time, therefore I don't accept them. Period.
Devlin Barret or however his name spelled is the reporter in the Strozk/Page texts that they were leaking too... He is a democrat shill and FBI leak receiver and his reporting is garbage...
I seriously knew it... Horowitz is such a god damn shill protecting the deep state.
They are going to release the report, state that there was some FISA abuse. The investigation was justified, but maybe they were overzealous so they need some better training or some BS like that.
I knew this was going to happen from the day Horowitz testified that Strokh and Page had no anti-Trump bias in their investigation. The guy said it with a straight face after being called out by it.
Disgusting. They will have one lawyer fall guy to try to throw us a bone, but the real deep state players will all get a pass.
Durham/Barr is our only hope at this time.
Fake News.
Barr disputes the content of the leaks. Big, big difference.
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See Q believers never believe in years long justice, thats a fantasy