Listen, if you plant 5 trees and I only plant 3, then you need to harvest the 5th tree and give it to me if you want to be allowed to harvest the 4th for yourself.
So you are using that money on yourself? Pretty selfish, dontcha think? Do you know how many needy people there are in America? Or maybe you just hate poor people? They would work if they could, but they can't because they face real challenges. Like institutionalized racism and sexism. You wouldn't understand because you are privileged. Since you are so greedy and filled with hate and selfishness, the government should take all that money you have, and give it to needy people. Needy people... like me! /s
Along these same lines I brought up the Grasshopper and ant fable, and was quickly informed that they teach it to mean exactly the opposite of what they did when I was a kid.
It used to be about the grasshopper not preparing and then demanding the ants help him out, and why you should never be the grasshopper. Now they teach you the grasshopper is an artist, and the ant acts out of privilege.
Bill Ayers used to talk about murdering 25 million Americans in The Revolution, before a few of his friends blew themselves up, and everybody else woke up.
Trump Administration and AG Barr: We're going to resume executing people for their crimes.
.
.
The Coup Players', and Globalist's, Urine: I'm just going to run down our leg, a little bit, now..
"Trump wants to resume executions for rapists and murderers! "
Hey Hey Hey whoa don't forget about the treasonous and seditious politicians, bureaucrats and "journalists". Pedophiles and child traffickers too, which are often one in the same with the treasonous politicians, bureaucrats and media types.
Here is my cheaper, better way. Right 10 minutes after the verdict is given, the convict is taken next door to an execution chamber where they are GUNNED DOWN. Super fast and cheap. We will bill other criminals for the bullets.
Why do we even keep them alive years after they are sentenced? What is the point? What purpose does this serve? WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS?
A) Not everyone in jail is guilty. There is forensics science now. Verdicts based on DNA is fairly new in the age of crime solving.
B) We are a civilization.
C) Sometimes there are still witnesses and questions to be resolved.
D) The small percentage of people that were wrongly accused.
Your loaded question is way too broad. Change “the convict” to “w/o a doubt pedo, serial murderer or mass shooter” then I agree to those being gunned down or even set on fire b/c that’s even cheaper.
Well if we have those modern methods, then that just means we are even more sure that a convicted person is guilty. Also, it's a fallacy to claim that a civilization is only civilized if they abolish capital punishment. What's the proof for that? This stupid idea is what lead to islamic terrorists stabbing people and getting away with 6 months. But I agree with setting them on fire!
Well, I think the fact that there’s even an impeachment fiasco to laugh about is clear evidence that the system is flawed. Your assumption is that the system is perfect, whereas we know it isn’t. I don’t know anyone in prison, but I’m sure there are a few that are at least wrongly convicted and a system where death was dolled out without due diligence is a scary system to be a part of.
Agreed. Look at what the Democrats have done with the impeachment process, and imagine some poor schmo picked up by the police because everybody's got their hair on fire over a real crime.....
Yes and frankly no, in a perfect world criminals would be convicted of exactly the right crime. Sometime law enforcement has a criminal and they try to find a crime that will end in conviction and prison time.
It's not like the movies or TV where the guilty are wrapped up in an hour. The worst criminal situation I was ever in was for a crime I did not commit. Bad lawyer, bad advice and I ended up really close to doing time for a traffic ticket. Not DWI a left turn through a yellow light. Basically I was young and poor.
we are talking about proven cases. not an "maybe he did , maybe he didnt" case. if big mike just fucked little billy up the asshole then slit his throat? execute that pile of shit. immediately
Because leftists lobbied successfully to make the process more expensive, so they could then argue to get rid of the death penalty because it was too expensive.
The issue is the long period of time enables for a lot of court battles. However, there are cases where people have been wrongly convicted. My analysis of the system is that if the country believes in innocent until proven guilty and the right to appeal then that belief has a cost that society will burden. Just end of the life of someone right afterwards doesn’t make a society Nobel, I think for the former does though.
Again I'll say I am for it, simply for the fact there are situations where people are beyond rehabilitation. But I doubt would be murderers weigh the consequences of their actions.
My biggest problem with capital punishment isn't that it is wrong to kill guilty people who deserve it, it is that sometimes innocent people get wrongly executed. Our justice system isn't perfect and we accept that. We do our best to make sure only the truly guilty get convicted, but sometimes, the justice system fails. Sometimes an innocent person is sent to jail. Imprisoning an innocent person is bad enough, but killing an innocent person is not something I could ever condone the state having the power to do.
"We could have a higher burden of proof for executions or we could only allow executions if there is a confession." We have already tried that and there have still been hundreds of innocent people executed. I know when you look at the number of criminals prosecuted in the history of the US, a few hundred is an extremely small number, but that number is still too high for me. One innocent person being killed is too high for me.
If there was a guaranteed way to ensure that only guilty people would be executed, then I would support it, but there isn't. I'm willing to accept that sometimes our justice system fails and innocent people are sent to jail. We do our best to prevent that and we try to make it right when it is found out an innocent person is sent to jail. But if an innocent person is killed, there is no way of making that right. The cost of one innocent person being killed is a price too high to pay. I'd rather have all the criminals who deserve to be executed to spend their life in prison than allow even a single innocent person to be wrongfully executed.
I'm not willing to sacrifice even a single person just to kill criminals who deserve it instead of just keeping them in a deep dark hole for the rest of their lives. Whatever justice could be done by killing someone who deserves it is never enough to make up for the loss of one innocent life taken by the hands of the government.
You make a lot of good points. It's very sad to hear that people have been coerced to false guilty pleas in hopes of reducing penalties or simply giving up fighting what seems like an impossible battle, and end up getting executed.
What if the only acceptable evidence to convict someone to execution was video footage of the crime? Such as a footage of a mass shooter at a public space?
Afterwards, he laughed to a fellow inmate that “[t]hat f---ing baby's head got as big as a watermelon”.
Why do we need to keep someone like that alive? I don’t think they should be tortured, but they absolutely should be put down like any other dangerous animal.
My Grandpappy told me, back in my day son, a man had to answer for wicked that he done.
Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree, round up all of them bad boys hang em high in the street. For all the people to see.
We got to many gangsters doing dirty deeds
To much corruption and crime in the streets. It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground. Send them all to their Maker and He'll settle em down. You can bet He'll set em down.
There are hundreds of executions that were indefinitely delayed and Trump wants to clean out the maximum security prisons to make room for all the DemoCommies!
Next, President Trump needs a bargaining chip to get the Treason convictions he wants. Nothing like a Gallows outside your jail window to make you want to negotiate that plea bargain!
I mean if you don't the next Dem president will just commune their sentence because of pick one (race, gender, illegal, professional victim, climate change, <insert next version of BS>).
Someone once said to me that Capital punishment was just State sponsored murder. Then you consider. That is the purpose of the state. Humans form States to do violence to those who would harm us. It is not murder it is the law.
The left: (without crime, trial, or conviction) Trump deserves to hang and his entire family should be tortured to death.
Also the left: Omg I can't believe Trump wants to resume executions for rapists and murderers! What a monster!
Yeah, the L’s have been “joking” a lot lately about using guillitines on anyone who they deem too successful.
Listen, if you plant 5 trees and I only plant 3, then you need to harvest the 5th tree and give it to me if you want to be allowed to harvest the 4th for yourself.
Don't be greedy
So you are using that money on yourself? Pretty selfish, dontcha think? Do you know how many needy people there are in America? Or maybe you just hate poor people? They would work if they could, but they can't because they face real challenges. Like institutionalized racism and sexism. You wouldn't understand because you are privileged. Since you are so greedy and filled with hate and selfishness, the government should take all that money you have, and give it to needy people. Needy people... like me! /s
Along these same lines I brought up the Grasshopper and ant fable, and was quickly informed that they teach it to mean exactly the opposite of what they did when I was a kid.
It used to be about the grasshopper not preparing and then demanding the ants help him out, and why you should never be the grasshopper. Now they teach you the grasshopper is an artist, and the ant acts out of privilege.
Ever wonder how atrocities happen in leftists societies?
I don't.
Bill Ayers used to talk about murdering 25 million Americans in The Revolution, before a few of his friends blew themselves up, and everybody else woke up.
I doubt they could even build one.
Trump Administration and AG Barr: We're going to resume executing people for their crimes.
.
.
The Coup Players', and Globalist's, Urine: I'm just going to run down our leg, a little bit, now..
hey that might turn Bidens leg hairs gold
Arn't rapists usually targets in prison?
It happens but it's not as frequent as it seems.
"Trump wants to resume executions for rapists and murderers! "
Hey Hey Hey whoa don't forget about the treasonous and seditious politicians, bureaucrats and "journalists". Pedophiles and child traffickers too, which are often one in the same with the treasonous politicians, bureaucrats and media types.
I would also have added seditious politicians, but I'd be repeating myself.
Or, say, treason?
A particular someone's bulging eyes just got a little bit more bulgy.
Here is my cheaper, better way. Right 10 minutes after the verdict is given, the convict is taken next door to an execution chamber where they are GUNNED DOWN. Super fast and cheap. We will bill other criminals for the bullets.
Why do we even keep them alive years after they are sentenced? What is the point? What purpose does this serve? WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS?
A) Not everyone in jail is guilty. There is forensics science now. Verdicts based on DNA is fairly new in the age of crime solving. B) We are a civilization. C) Sometimes there are still witnesses and questions to be resolved. D) The small percentage of people that were wrongly accused. Your loaded question is way too broad. Change “the convict” to “w/o a doubt pedo, serial murderer or mass shooter” then I agree to those being gunned down or even set on fire b/c that’s even cheaper.
Well if we have those modern methods, then that just means we are even more sure that a convicted person is guilty. Also, it's a fallacy to claim that a civilization is only civilized if they abolish capital punishment. What's the proof for that? This stupid idea is what lead to islamic terrorists stabbing people and getting away with 6 months. But I agree with setting them on fire!
Well, I think the fact that there’s even an impeachment fiasco to laugh about is clear evidence that the system is flawed. Your assumption is that the system is perfect, whereas we know it isn’t. I don’t know anyone in prison, but I’m sure there are a few that are at least wrongly convicted and a system where death was dolled out without due diligence is a scary system to be a part of.
This is also a problem way of thinking.
"The system is flawed, so we shouldn't rid ourselves of child molesters" is why we have too many child molesters.
Capitol punishment needs to exist, it needs to be enforced, flawed or not. The very knowledge that it exists actively prevents crime.
(No one made that claim.)
We are having some fun with saying stuff that would wad the panties of reddit admins...only if seen in TD, though
Other subs can talk all they want about feeding the Trump family into an industrial wood chipper on Christmas Eve.
Agreed. Look at what the Democrats have done with the impeachment process, and imagine some poor schmo picked up by the police because everybody's got their hair on fire over a real crime.....
Yes and frankly no, in a perfect world criminals would be convicted of exactly the right crime. Sometime law enforcement has a criminal and they try to find a crime that will end in conviction and prison time.
It's not like the movies or TV where the guilty are wrapped up in an hour. The worst criminal situation I was ever in was for a crime I did not commit. Bad lawyer, bad advice and I ended up really close to doing time for a traffic ticket. Not DWI a left turn through a yellow light. Basically I was young and poor.
we are talking about proven cases. not an "maybe he did , maybe he didnt" case. if big mike just fucked little billy up the asshole then slit his throat? execute that pile of shit. immediately
This is a good compromise.
Because leftists lobbied successfully to make the process more expensive, so they could then argue to get rid of the death penalty because it was too expensive.
The issue is the long period of time enables for a lot of court battles. However, there are cases where people have been wrongly convicted. My analysis of the system is that if the country believes in innocent until proven guilty and the right to appeal then that belief has a cost that society will burden. Just end of the life of someone right afterwards doesn’t make a society Nobel, I think for the former does though.
Mass shooters and terrorists would be a good start.
Don't forget pedos and satanic child murderers.
Sadly, many patriots still don't believe pedos do satanic ritual murders of children. The theory is Pizzagate was "debunked" because the news said so
Death sentence is a God-given blessing. Anyone who disagrees deserves to have a relative murdered. Point blank period.
"we as a species have moved beyond this"
Honestly, the fucking ego. It can convince you of any and every thing. Thanks god.
We are a half step up from Lord of the Flies on our best day.
The mob rules way to often: Social Media, Womyns, #Metoo, LGBTWXYZ! and leftists.
What is the punishment for traitors?
Yep.
Maybe rolling stone can do a shocking hot cover of his dead body in the chair.
"Some people just deserve killin'".
Seems like that’s the last sentence said from an inmate before killing another inmate.
I havent fully rationalized my position on capital punishment yet, but I'm inclined to agree with it. There are some people beyond rehabilitation.
It's also a deterrent. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Firing squad might be a good deterrent!
Again I'll say I am for it, simply for the fact there are situations where people are beyond rehabilitation. But I doubt would be murderers weigh the consequences of their actions.
Yep. Tell me this guy didn't deserve death: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase
Jesus never heard that story.
Hence the new animal cruelty law, these mentally ill people show signs early.
My biggest problem with capital punishment isn't that it is wrong to kill guilty people who deserve it, it is that sometimes innocent people get wrongly executed. Our justice system isn't perfect and we accept that. We do our best to make sure only the truly guilty get convicted, but sometimes, the justice system fails. Sometimes an innocent person is sent to jail. Imprisoning an innocent person is bad enough, but killing an innocent person is not something I could ever condone the state having the power to do.
"We could have a higher burden of proof for executions or we could only allow executions if there is a confession." We have already tried that and there have still been hundreds of innocent people executed. I know when you look at the number of criminals prosecuted in the history of the US, a few hundred is an extremely small number, but that number is still too high for me. One innocent person being killed is too high for me.
If there was a guaranteed way to ensure that only guilty people would be executed, then I would support it, but there isn't. I'm willing to accept that sometimes our justice system fails and innocent people are sent to jail. We do our best to prevent that and we try to make it right when it is found out an innocent person is sent to jail. But if an innocent person is killed, there is no way of making that right. The cost of one innocent person being killed is a price too high to pay. I'd rather have all the criminals who deserve to be executed to spend their life in prison than allow even a single innocent person to be wrongfully executed.
I'm not willing to sacrifice even a single person just to kill criminals who deserve it instead of just keeping them in a deep dark hole for the rest of their lives. Whatever justice could be done by killing someone who deserves it is never enough to make up for the loss of one innocent life taken by the hands of the government.
You make a lot of good points. It's very sad to hear that people have been coerced to false guilty pleas in hopes of reducing penalties or simply giving up fighting what seems like an impossible battle, and end up getting executed.
What if the only acceptable evidence to convict someone to execution was video footage of the crime? Such as a footage of a mass shooter at a public space?
[EVERYONE LIKED THAT]
Make Executions Great Again
MEGA MAGA
Take a look at the details of one of the inmates they want to execute, a guy who took his 2 yo daughter from her mother and tortured her to death : https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1369349.html
Afterwards, he laughed to a fellow inmate that “[t]hat f---ing baby's head got as big as a watermelon”.
Why do we need to keep someone like that alive? I don’t think they should be tortured, but they absolutely should be put down like any other dangerous animal.
I'd support toture penalty for scum like this.
Sending a message to those who know they are guilty of treason...
The hammer is coming down
Too bad no fucking snakes in D.C. will ever face justice ... Unless we do it ourselves.
My Grandpappy told me, back in my day son, a man had to answer for wicked that he done. Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree, round up all of them bad boys hang em high in the street. For all the people to see.
We got to many gangsters doing dirty deeds To much corruption and crime in the streets. It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground. Send them all to their Maker and He'll settle em down. You can bet He'll set em down.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WUPbuiTMyp4
Yes
Could have been good for Epstein, but only after a trial and a chance to find out more about who else was involved.
Brennan just shit his depends
Outstanding!
Capital punishment is the only punishment that has a 100% chance of stopping a convicted felon from commiting a other crime.
Wew look at the time
Yes Mr. President, please make sure this happens!
? Hear my orders
question me and die
What I say
Was said in Heaven
And so it shall be done.
I was chosen by the heaven
Say my name when you pray
To the skies, see Donaldus rise. ?
https://youtu.be/nBlYlSs2fIU
All embrace me
It's my time to rule at last
70 years I have been waiting
To sit in the Oval.
No allegiance,
I will swear no oaths
Crowned by pedes not the state
My power comes from them.
They thought I was too old to rule the land,
Just as they fail to understand,
Born to rule
My time has come!
I was chosen by heaven
Say my name when you pray
To the skies,
see Donaldus rise!
With the pedes my protectors,
Make dems bow to my will,
To the skies,
See Donaldus rise!
LOL WHAT
... the order in which these events are occurring are interesting.
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I'm liking where this is going.
Killary? Please.
If the problem is the formula for the injection, why not resume old school methods like a firing squad?
Ya know all that captured Fentanyl just clogging up secure storage at the cop shop?
Pain is coming
Coup plotters take note.
Make Criminals Fear Consequences Again.
Quick execution for the pedos!
There are hundreds of executions that were indefinitely delayed and Trump wants to clean out the maximum security prisons to make room for all the DemoCommies!
Next, President Trump needs a bargaining chip to get the Treason convictions he wants. Nothing like a Gallows outside your jail window to make you want to negotiate that plea bargain!
I think this is to leverage a treason charge against the coup plotters. You won’t give up your boss? Okay, treason it is. See you at the gallows!
Execution or trial by combat.If you are innocent,make sure you can fight.
Spoiler:
Pedos can't fight,they will humiliate themselves in combat or they will just take the execution and say goodbye.
I mean if you don't the next Dem president will just commune their sentence because of pick one (race, gender, illegal, professional victim, climate change, <insert next version of BS>).
Surely only a traitor would want to make treason a hangable offense.
Can't we just drop them off at Planned Parenthood? I hear they are highly experienced at terminating life.
YOOOO is it happening??
Someone once said to me that Capital punishment was just State sponsored murder. Then you consider. That is the purpose of the state. Humans form States to do violence to those who would harm us. It is not murder it is the law.
As messed up as government has been.
As corrupt as government has been.
I can put no faith in their power of capital punishment.
Sorry, can’t do it.
Wow. Things might be getting good :)
i believe in executions for inexcusable crimes. absolutely.
This is gonna rustle some jimmies!
This is a very deep Fantasy of mine!
Good! But it is important not just to restart them but we need to speed them up.
This shit gives me a boner.