I think it is time President Trump turned the dogs loose on the Democrats. We all know how corrupt the Democrats and Rino's are. I am pretty sure the Democrats and Senate Rino's came to an agreement to vote to impeach the President. The fact two republican candidates (Illinois & Massachusetts) are running in the Republican Primaries tells me a deal was done. If the Dems knew they had a snowball's chance in hell in the Senate to impeach they would not have moved on. The Dems only need 21 Rino's to vote with them for impeachment and I am pretty sure they already have 6 in their pocket and I sure they will get it. So here is what we need to decide. How to remove the Rino's that are going to betray this country. There will be 21 in total. The question is when will the Senate take up the impeachment issue. I think Pelosi will try and wrap it up by January 1 and the primaries for the Republicans start before March. I think their goal is to impeach the President by March. IF they impeach the President it is game, set and match for us. The Republicans will make sure one of the primary challengers win. We heard the other day the Dems were trying to tie Pence in with this impeachment. So they have made it very public and clear Pence will not be a problem for the Republican Rino's. I suggested not to long ago that a Trump run as a Republican Primary challenger in the event the President got impeached and that fell on deaf ears. So any suggestions on how we can thwart the Rino's and Dems? I hope I am wrong but I am pretty sure I am right on this call. If this plays out like I think it will then we are right back to square one. The Deep State aka NWO will go back to business as usual. They will continue wasting and stealing our taxpayer money. They will continue on their path to a New World Order with the UN at the head of it and we can can kiss our sovereignty goodbye. It will be open borders and socialism all the way heading towards communism.
12/6 UPDATE! This morning Pelosi held a press conference patting herself on the back for undermining the President with foreign leaders concerning climate change! She made it very clear that she was making those decisions and letting the foreign nations know the US is still all in for climate change. No one gave her this authority. She took it upon herself to represent the USA because the President made it clear we were pulling out of the Climate Change accord. If you do not think the Democrats are confident they have this in the bag then you would be dead wrong.
It takes 2/3 majority in the Senate to remove. Won't happen.
You do realize there are only 100 Senators in the Senate. 53 Republican and 45 Democrat and two independents. I am thinking the independents will vote with the republicans. So really the Dems only need 66 votes to impeach the President. So they need 21 Rino's to vote to impeach and I am quite sure they already have 6 in their pocket. So they only need 15 Rino's to vote with them.
And I hope you realize there is a trial with evidence, not hearsay, witnesses, facts not feelings or opinions. The Supreme Court acts as judge. Not a chance Trump will be impeached.
Oh you mean this U.S. Supreme Court chief justice? Trump has called Chief Justice John Roberts an "absolute disaster" and a "nightmare for conservatives."
Here is the thing about facts and the Democrats know this very well. A fact can be manipulated depending on the perspective. So is it a fact the President called up Ukraine President and asked for a favor to investigate the Biden's corruption? Yes, he did that but the ultimate question is did he do it for the nation or for his own personal gain? Was it to route out corruption between our nations or to shine a spotlight on a Presidential candidates character in order to disparage him in the 2020 election? So what if the call did not include the Biden name, and he still used the term US and to work to remove all corruption between our countries? I think he made a serious error in judgement when he dropped the Biden's name. I think he did it to call out the corruption of the Biden's, specifically a VP that publicly admitted to corruption thinking that he was doing the right thing. If Joe Biden was not running for the Presidency would it have mattered at all? Would we be in this situation? Here is an even bigger question for you, Joe Biden publicly bragged about using his power as the VP to deter a foreign nation from investigating his son and the company his son and several other US Senators offspring republican and democrat were running to funnel US Foreign aide into their pockets by withholding US foreign aide. How is it Joe Biden is still running for the Presidency and no criminal action has been taken by the DOJ against the Biden's or the other US citizens involved in this theft and fraud? I would think that corruption of this magnitude far outweighs the current sitting President asking for an investigation by Ukraine into this matter. But hey apparently our government including the Senate feels that little tidbit should just be swept under the rug. There is nothing preventing the US Senate from starting their own investigation or requesting the DOJ investigate the Biden/Romney/././. Ukraine scandal is there? But I hear nothing from the Senate. Ask yourself why?
Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution states that “Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.” So if the Senate voted to convict a sitting President and thereby remove him from office, they could also vote to permanently disqualify him from holding federal office again.
Deus Vult. that's the plan. if it goes through and if they somehow manage impeachment, they're risking another Civil War over it. People have had enough. There are some who will be pushed to a breaking point and that impeachment might just be the spark that ignites the powderkeg. hopefully not, but something will have to give and if the Rs in government won't do something resounding and definitive to destroy the left, civilians may have to, or we lose our country.
Let's just for now hope that this all blows up in the Left's face and we can resort to ridiculing them for life over it
Does the term have to be completed? If impeached and he doesn’t serve one term isn’t he eligible to serve two more?
It is just a tag on his name for the history books..nothing more.
Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution states that “Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.” So if the Senate voted to convict a sitting President and thereby remove him from office, they could also vote to permanently disqualify him from holding federal office again.
If Trump gets impeached (and I think that's possible, but not likely) that doesn't remove him from office: remember that Clinton was impeached and finished his term.
In the highly unlikely event that 20 Republicans jump ship in the Senate and there are 67 votes to remove, then Trump is out, and Mike Pence becomes POTUS. The White House will still be in Republican control.
And I imagine Mike is gonna be pissed.
I think there is a bit of logic you are missing. The Republican Rino's have controlled the Republican Party for more than 50 years. The Rino's are the deep state aka NWO. President Bush Sr. ushered in the NWO in one of his speeches and Bush Jr. carried out the plan for the middle east to fall and push millions of Muslims into western nations. General Wesley Clark told us in his interview that it was Bush Jr. that decided 7 Middle East nations were to be destroyed after 9/11. If you think the Republicans have our (the people's) back you would be highly mistaken. The Constituionalists (R) which were elected and put into office by the Tea Party are who you can trust and there are not a whole lot of them in the Senate.
If Trump is removed from office, it will be concrete proof that voting will not fix the problems with this current government and the unelected domestic enemies running most of it. Nobody knows what will happen if he is removed, but I am prepared for the worst.
I can't imagine that 21 Republicans would defect and vote for conviction. Especially the way that the House conducted the impeachment proceedings. You are also assuming that none of the Democrat senators would defect. There is a possibility that 1 or 2 from red states may vote against conviction.
We shall see. I hope I am wrong. But why are two republican rino's running in the presidential primary? Do you not think it odd that Pence would not be the clear choice for the republican president in the event President Trump is impeached? And, who do you think his running mate would be? A Trump possibly. So, it would make sense that the Republicans want to gain control of the nation back from us (we the people) and continue on the way they have for the last 50 years, heading towards open borders, cheap labor, manipulating wall street for their benefit? If you lost control of your open bank account would you not do everything in your power to get control of it again?
Bill Clinton was impeached and he still remained president. They are doing this in revenge of him...Trump will be even more popular if it were to happen. But it won't happen in Senate.
We shall see but better to be safe than sorry and have a plan in place in the event it does not go as we hope.
I agree with you @Cc0623!!! We are getting into very treacherous waters here, in spite of how many on our side are repeating, "...Won't happen!...Won't happen!..." The two senate Rinos in my own state would, I'm willing to bet, vote to remove the President so that they could get back to pre-Trump "business as usual."
If Trump were, for whatever reason, to be removed, I would probably never vote again. After all, what good is my vote if it can be so easily overridden by the so-called elites?
They couldn't care less if you vote or not. For the last 50 years the Dems and Rino's have worked as the left and right hand of a body called the NWO. New World Order. The NWO has worked diligently to destroy this nation regardless of which party is in power. We have seen 50 years of mismanagement, fraud, waste, double dealing, outright theft and manipulation of the citizens. We are now on the precipice of losing our nations sovereignty to the NWO. Do you actually think the politicians that have been a part of this for so long even cares?
The House votes to impeach. The Senate holds a trial on removal.
Exactly. That is why Clinton was not removed from office. But I am quite sure they will vote to remove from office. I do not trust the Rino's at all as they have proven over the last 50 years they are not our servants they are for enriching themselves at our expense.
RINOs like to stay in power. They can't enrich themselves if they don't hold a political office, so they will follow the popular opinion. With a majority of independents against impeachment, and today's news of Trump's approval at 52% (Obama was 47% in 2012 when he was re-elected), they will get the pitchforks and torches treatment if they vote to convict. Besides, there are Democrats from Trump won states that would be crucified if they voted to convict. A Democrat senator from Michigan and Alabama are up for re-election, plus a Democrat senator from Minnesota and New Hampshire (states that Trump almost won in 2016).
Not to mention, Ronna McDaniel, Trump's Michigan campaign chief in 2016, heads the RNC, which controls the bulk of the money all Republicans get for campaigning. Any Republican senator up for re-election like Lindsey Graham, won't be getting money from the RNC if they vote to convict. Again, RINOs need to stay in office to enrich themselves. They won't go against the RNC head Ronna McDaniel and the majority of voters.