ElderPede here: That's a tough call at this time. I've been saying that I pray that it doesn't come to actual battle. There's no way in hell a fight like that wouldn't hurt America in so many ways. I see these innocent kids get the snot beat out of them and it makes me crazy. Maybe we start with small retaliations, like the bike lock guy. He/she hits a bystander and one of our like minded pedes throw him/her a beating. When I say beating, I don't mean a couple of slaps, I mean a ,(next time we meet, I won' be so easy), beating. As of now, none of us have fought back, not really, and it pisses me off as much as any of you! ...KAG!