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bubblegummy 23 points ago +23 / -0

Exactly. China's leadership groups are having intense internal fight for power too, Xi vs. Wang and Jiang. Wealthy people are going crazy trying to get their assets out of China. Unless CCP is terminated, i don't see how China can make any honest deal.

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Paco 14 points ago +15 / -1

China's governmental system is doomed because of the hybrid system that they have. The more people in China who rise up out of poverty and become middle class or even rich, the less they're going to want to be controlled in such a heavy handed way. They will start to call for more and more freedoms and eventually the communist government will implode.

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NostalgicFuturist 11 points ago +11 / -0

The Belt is tightening around their own necks. The Road is leading to a very dark place for the CCP. Those predatory loans they've been conning Third World countries into are overbalanced by their own multi-trillion dollar debt. They've tried to have it both ways. They exploit globalism (via huge World Bank loans and kowtowing international corporations and bribe-taking Swamp politicians and a WTO court that till recently has ruled consistently in China's favor in all trade disputes with the USA); at the same time they are maintaining a piratical neo-mercantile economy together with an expansionist nationalism. They’ve been coddled as a "developing" nation while simultaneously seeking world-domination.

This has led to overreach and over-extension, and their short-term economic successes have unintentionally created an internal problem, as you say: a growing affluent class exerting pressure for liberalizing reforms and an end to the free-market-stifling “partnership” between government and private business. (To put it simply: It’s bad for business.)

They're between a rock and a hard place vis a vis Hong Kong, the financial brain of their economy: do they cave in to the protestors' democratic demands, or do another Tiananmen Square and, in effect, shoot themselves in the head? Demonstration are already happening on the mainland (Maoming), a bad omen.

Meanwhile their economy needs ours more than ours needs theirs. Trump is brilliantly nudging them over the brink with a carrot-and-stick policy that is much more stick than carrot. The fact that they’re playing along tells you who has the stronger hand in this game.

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CyclopticErotica 6 points ago +6 / -0

And to add the very obvious, winning against China is loosing in the minds of those in Washington who suck China's teat.

After seeing the court intrigue involving a minor actor on the world stage, Ukraine, imagine what surrounds our relationship with China.

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NostalgicFuturist 5 points ago +5 / -0

The Deep State doesn't get much deeper than in its China dealings.

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Lemongrass5 7 points ago +7 / -0

China been gouging us so I've been gouging them through trade. The norm under Obama was 1usd=6.1cny now the norm is 1=7.3.

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Tarded 7 points ago +7 / -0

We can only hope and pray.

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SheikFromMozambake 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's an excellent article but Trump's strategy is more sophisticated. While doing everything the article said, Trump is also leaving the door open for China to become a more responsible nation going forward. Most reasonable people don't expect that to happen but he is giving them the opportunity to do the right thing and, if they do, that's good too. Keeping the "do the right thing" option open is important, even if China doesn't take it, because the people of the world are watching what the US does. This important distinction is the difference between acting like a bully and acting like a good parent disciplining a child. There's a carrot, not just a stick.

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loveandchill 3 points ago +3 / -0

Really goes to show the brilliance of the man.

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ShampocalypseWOW 5 points ago +8 / -3

All it will take is China cheating on this deal, which is a foregone conclusion. Then we really fuck em in the ass. They thought tariffs were bad? How about a fucking EMBARGO!? End of the CCP right there. Everyone else in the world wins.

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loveandchill 4 points ago +4 / -0

I like the way you think. That would be glorious, and it seems like he's setting up the pieces for it. 5D chess forreal.

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SilverStarv5 1 point ago +1 / -0

I vote fuck ‘em in the ass!

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Farmerbob1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you are incorrect. Trump doesn't want China to lose power, he wants China to become an actual Capitalist nation, rather than a Communist nation wearing capitalist clothing.

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CliveCook1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yah never know. We are dealing with PDJT.